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Thread: The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

  1. #2801
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mission, I did give Mike credit for allowing me back on the forum. But really it was about 3 years too late. It should have been obvious to Mike, just as it was to everyone else that Qfit used him, when Qfit disappeared immediately after he had gotten me banned. He never was, nor intended to be part of that forum. If Mike didn't know that at the time, he certainly knew it within months or a year at most after. he simply couldn't bring himself to admit he was wrong and had been used. So I paid the price of his insecurities for 3 additional years. And there is more to the Qfit saga that you don't know, plus some additional that I recently learned from Mike himself, that I am not going to reveal. Bottom line, yes he did the right thing, but at least 3 years too late. And the only reason there was a delay was because he was embarrassed.
    QFit certainly got what he wanted, but unlike so many other people with no evidence to back up their bare conjecture, I'm not going to speculate as to why. I don't think it was you, but one or more people even speculated that QFit might have dirt on him. What dirt? Please. He's got a few million reasons not to care.

    Anyway, I've already agreed that you shouldn't have been Nuked for that. Would you have gotten yourself Nuked eventually if QFit and yourself had kept on the way you were? Probably both of you would have.

    What's the end result of both getting Nuked? Neither of you would post there anymore. You got Nuked. End result? Neither of you really posted there anymore.

    I believe I was an Admin at the time, so I can reveal that I think I was made aware of the, "Truce," after the fact. In any event, it wasn't discussed with me prior to the truce being agreed upon. I think I was just informed that the two of you shouldn't be talking to the other.

    What price? The REAL price you paid is the one you charged yourself when you allowed it to consume almost everything you did and said on the Forums for three years. That's one difference we have: You cannot ever let things go; I am almost totally apathetic to everything as long as I am mostly being left alone. If you added those aspects of us together and divided by maybe three, we'd be a mentally healthy person.

    Look, I could get Nuked from WoV today and do you know what the result would be? I wouldn't give a shit. They have plenty of other sites I can write for (and do). What? They don't wish for me to write anymore? I still don't give a shit; I'll just find another job. "I was looking for a job when I found this one," as they say. I would just say, "Thank you for the work, thank you for being kind to me and thank you for not caring about deadlines."

    And, then they can just ban me from all of the other forums. Fucking difference would it make?

    And, then they can out me to all of the casinos and get me listed everywhere possible so that I can't AP. Fucking difference would that make? I'll just do something else.

    Do you get it, yet? None. Of. This. Fucking. Matters.

    Hey, and about the above post---I want to make it clear that I would never say that to someone I didn't like. If I don't like you, then I'll ignore you.

  2. #2802
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    Check out the "Steve Stevens" clip I posted above. A lot of MDawg style with Mr. Stevens.

    Let's assume (A) Shackleford witnesses MDawg's play, and MDawg unveils some methodology or psychic ability that wins. Shackleford will faithfully report it. WoV becomes semi-famous.

    Now let's assume (B) Shackleford witnesses no methodology or psychic ability that enables MDawg to win. Will he just as faithfully report , "I witnessed no methodology or abilities that suggest he can win?"

    If Shackleford witnesses B and does NOT explicitly say that he witnessed no methods or abilities, then he is being more than complicit in the nonsense. He is a direct accessory.

    Anybody care to post odds on what will happen if (B) transpires?
    I'd assume he's just going to report the session results without further commentary. Quite honestly, I'm surprised $500 was enough to get him to go.

  3. #2803
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Excuse me, I have PMed mike maybe half dozen times in 6 months and most of them are in response to a PM from him. Since you don't know what you are talking about, just ask Mike how often he hears from Mdawg complaining and requesting people be suspended. And not just me, but Axelwolf and darkoz, although I am at the top of the list. Go ahead ask Mike. We will wait. I KNOW, because he told me.
    So fucking what? All you had to do was ignore him or post in a way that stays within the rules. He claims that he has a winning method of playing. He doesn't. The end. Not difficult.

    Even if you disbelieve his specific results, what difference does it make? Unless he specifically identifies an AP mechanism, or describes a new and unknown (to most) one, then he doesn't have a winning system.

    If he's playing with a system or method, he WILL LOSE in the long run, but I hope he doesn't. I don't pull for anyone to lose.

  4. #2804
    Another thing: If it was really that bad, then I (as an admin) would say that if I get another PM requesting action, and you are wrong, then you're gone. Of course, I read all threads except politics, so it could be assumed I saw the post and took no action.

  5. #2805
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Semi related to MDawg. Not sure how many follow the saga of scammer Christopher Mitchell, but he is a YouTube scammer with similar claims to MDawg from a math standpoint. Only difference is so far MDawg isn’t selling anything other than bullshit.

    Anyways the guys at Dan’s PFA forum are vicious toward Mitchell and his scams. Good reading, even just the most recent pages if anyone is bored.
    yes, I followed the Christopher Mitchell thing for a while last year on Dan's forum and was shocked to see how Dan went after him. Not disturbed or anything, just shocked being that Dan mostly stayed silent with Rob Singer. And I don't buy the difference of selling his scam. Rob Singer published 2 books! And claims to have trained people privately. Do you think that was for free? Singer attempted to make money, just wasn't very good at it.

    Now Mdawg, it doesn't appear is trying to monetize his scammy claims. He is just a narcist that wants the attention. But that doesn't make all that much difference to me. Mdawg is using a platform like WoV to make his claims. That gives him the credibility of WoV. So there are people reading and who will read in the future believing this shit because they read it on Michael Shackleford's WoV. They go out and lose there money trying to win at baccarat, because Mdawg claims to win for 100 straight days. Does it really make any difference whether they paid for that scam on top of it. They were scrammed. The only way that stops is legitimate players calling out this bullshit.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #2806
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    In the Forum sense, do you have integrity?
    .
    Yes, I believe I do have integrity.

    I wouldn't be bullied into apologizing when I returned to that forum in June.
    I wouldn't be bullied into a 3 mouth probation period at DT as demanded. I did a few days and said no more.
    I won't be bullied into being silent, when it is my right to call out someone posting complete bullshit and fantasy.
    I don't run and hide when I make a mistake. Do you know how many people advised me to start over with a new identity after the deathgate thing. I wouldn't do that I take responsibility and criticism to this day.
    I am the constant source of homophobic attracts, even people follow me around different forums just for that. I don't back down.
    I am honest and I tell you what is on my mind and I treat people fairly and I expect the same in return.
    I guess. I'd have just said, "What's done is done," and probably not let you back. Not because you said anything about me (if I were Wizard), but just because there's no reason to believe that you could stay within the rules.

    By, "Integrity," I mean just eating your Nuke and shitting on him here where he's not going to see it and nobody who reads here will report it to him. If you're going to shit on someone, then have a nutsack and do it where you KNOW they'll see it.

  7. #2807
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    He has that impulse control disorder. In this respect he and DarkOz are the same - neither one of them could ever do what I've done for over a month now, completely ignore dozens and dozens of posts from detractors at WOV.

    I don't even respond most of the time at VCT any longer either.

    The day I see these guys let something go and not respond will be the day I realize that they've grown up a little.

    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    So fucking what? All you had to do was ignore him
    Impossible. He has that impulse control disorder. He's like an incontinent infant who needs diapers.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  8. #2808
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    Check out the "Steve Stevens" clip I posted above. A lot of MDawg style with Mr. Stevens.

    Let's assume (A) Shackleford witnesses MDawg's play, and MDawg unveils some methodology or psychic ability that wins. Shackleford will faithfully report it. WoV becomes semi-famous.

    Now let's assume (B) Shackleford witnesses no methodology or psychic ability that enables MDawg to win. Will he just as faithfully report , "I witnessed no methodology or abilities that suggest he can win?"

    If Shackleford witnesses B and does NOT explicitly say that he witnessed no methods or abilities, then he is being more than complicit in the nonsense. He is a direct accessory.

    Anybody care to post odds on what will happen if (B) transpires?
    I'd assume he's just going to report the session results without further commentary. Quite honestly, I'm surprised $500 was enough to get him to go.
    He responded yes in mere minutes, for a measly 5 hundy, quite telling if you ask me.

  9. #2809
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post

    He responded yes in mere minutes, for a measly 5 hundy, quite telling if you ask me.
    Yeah, it tells me that he was online when it was posted. I'm responding to you within five minutes for free.

  10. #2810
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    Do you get it, yet? None. Of. This. Fucking. Matters.

    This is just your opinion. I guess it doesn't matter to you. It MATTERS to me.

    I play for a living and I and others on these forums know what it takes to play for a living. The work and risk involved. And I don't like someone coming along and telling a fairytale of riches and winning every session, every day. That is not reality and it isn't fair to those of us that really work at it.

    And, I simply don't like people making up shit that misleads other members and may result in players/members going out and losing because of these fairytales. yes, I know I can't fix or police the world, but I am going to call this bullshit out. It matters to me!
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  11. #2811
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    Do you get it, yet? None. Of. This. Fucking. Matters.

    This is just your opinion. I guess it doesn't matter to you. It MATTERS to me.

    I play for a living and I and others on these forums know what it takes to play for a living. The work and risk involved. And I don't like someone coming along and telling a fairytale of riches and winning every session, every day. That is not reality and it isn't fair to those of us that really work at it.

    And, I simply don't like people making up shit that misleads other members and may result in players/members going out and losing because of these fairytales. yes, I know I can't fix or police the world, but I am going to call this bullshit out. It matters to me!
    The point I was making is, he did everything to avoid/ deflect the whole meet up for the most part, then when a paltry amount of money was offered he jumped immediately. Very similar principle, to the whole "Tin Cup fiasco days before the 2.2 mil sale. Anything for him to make a buck or two decimating what little integrity he has. My opinion he has none.

  12. #2812
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    By, "Integrity," I mean just eating your Nuke and shitting on him here where he's not going to see it and nobody who reads here will report it to him. If you're going to shit on someone, then have a nutsack and do it where you KNOW they'll see it.
    After I was banned, when Mike and I were still talking, before he shutdown all avenues of communication, one of the last things he said to me was "If I didn't like it, there was a whole forum of people bashing him that I should join". That forum was gambling forum. I knew nothing of it at the time. So I did as Mike suggested. Mickey was there, Axelwolf was there. Other from here as well. Eventually that forum owner doxxed someone and it lead to a mass exodus which landed us here.

    So me bashing Mike at gambling Forums and eventually here, was at his direct suggestion. Just doing what he told me.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  13. #2813
    I did it again post above for Mission. I need a coffee !

  14. #2814
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    By, "Integrity," I mean just eating your Nuke and shitting on him here where he's not going to see it and nobody who reads here will report it to him. If you're going to shit on someone, then have a nutsack and do it where you KNOW they'll see it.
    After I was banned, when Mike and I were still talking, before he shutdown all avenues of communication, one of the last things he said to me was "If I didn't like it, there was a whole forum of people bashing him that I should join". That forum was gambling forum. I knew nothing of it at the time. So I did as Mike suggested. Mickey was there, Axelwolf was there. Other from here as well. Eventually that forum owner doxxed someone and it lead to a mass exodus which landed us here.

    So me bashing Mike at gambling Forums and eventually here, was at his direct suggestion. Just doing what he told me.
    I question if he “never” reads stuff from here. I don’t think any of those who still communicate with him run to him with the information, but I’m thinking he visits from time to time. It’s human nature to see what others think of you. He’s not exactly a famous person to 99.9% of the country so there aren’t many places he is discussed from him to check in on.

  15. #2815
    Fucking Faggots won't Shut the Fuck Up!!

  16. #2816
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Fucking Faggots won't Shut the Fuck Up!!
    Maybe someone should shove a donut in my mouth. That does the trick with you, you fat bastard.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #2817
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    Mdawg is using a platform like WoV to make his claims. That gives him the credibility of WoV. So there are people reading and who will read in the future believing this shit because they read it on Michael Shackleford's WoV. They go out and lose there money trying to win at baccarat, because Mdawg claims to win for 100 straight days. Does it really make any difference whether they paid for that scam on top of it. They were scrammed. The only way that stops is legitimate players calling out this bullshit.
    Exactly.

    I remember when WoV was the "lair of the Math Boyz," a forum where math was king and bullshit was immediately sniffed out and derided if the claim was not supported by the math.

    Newbies would pop in and ask math-related questions and get a straight answer.

    The idea that a fuckwit like DoofDawg would have been tolerated pre-sale to the Serbs seems impossible to believe; oh he might have been toyed with initially for shits and giggles but in the end he'd have been ridden out on a rail.

    But a lot of the old guard have left; this was partly due to Darkoz exposing a profitable AP play, and the remainder due to a dislike of Mike's moderation and the incrasingly non-Math-based tenor of the place.

    Math Boyz want to hang with Math Boyz, not with self-promoting flim flam artists who piss all over the math of gambling as well as themselves.
    Last edited by MisterV; 04-10-2021 at 12:51 PM.
    What, Me Worry?

  18. #2818
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Fucking Faggots won't Shut the Fuck Up!!
    See you're chiming in as well....lol

  19. #2819
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  20. #2820
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    See you're chiming in as well....lol
    Should of took more time to be more clever.
    The post didn't work so well.
    A bit of an offshoot of my last post towards Mission.
    I have no chime or opinion.
    Just like to call Mission146 a Faggot now any chance I get.
    Sorry to bother you.

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