The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

[AxelWolf]

Mike is a "fair" and benevolent wizard IF you play by his written rules, which it appears DoofDawg has been doing.

True, there are mods there just itching to play "Gotcha!" (hello, OD) but even he is playing by the rules, and hey, we all hope to catch others in "gotcha" situations, don't we?

True, we all know that DawgShit is trolling and that trolling is ostensibly forbidden there in the Emerald City, but nobody has been able to prove that what DenseDawg claims is false.

History repeats itself, they say; just think back to when alan claimed one time (must have been some good LSD, alan old boy) that he saw eighteen yo's rolled in a row.

The Wiz didn't exile him to Munchkinland because he could not prove the claim was false and that it was just a lie / troll.

Too bad the latest challenge failed: that could have provided the lever to send DumbshitDawg on a one way trip to the DawgPound.

Don't be disappointed that the challenge broke down before things were all set. I have a feeling something would have come up last minute that prevented MD from showing up.

[kewlJ]

What should occur, is the people who have been suspended for challenging these fantasy, fairyland claims should immediately be unsuspended. Probably with an apology, although Michael Shackleford has proven he is not a big enough man to ever do that. People restricted from the Mdawg thread to protect Mdawg (at his request), should be unrestricted.

And we should go back to the point that after 2+ years it is long past time for Mdawg to put up or shut up. And until he does, he should not be given the platform to continue with claims that go against math.

It is ridiculous. The guy is right here in Vegas, for a month now. Prove you claims! And he should want to if they were anything but fantasy. Think of the victory lap this guy would get to take, if he were to prove to Wizard, his claims true.

[coach belly]

Quite funny that Dog is so concerned with 2k worth of BTC going down in value, before getting sent

Whether BTC goes up or down in value has no bearing on the prizes offered.

He mentioned BTC losing value once to bust the challenger's balls,
the implication is that if BTC price falls then EV would need to send
more to cover $2500 in prizes offered.

You are a moron.

[Mission146]

It would seem that you've never played Baccarat. There is no way anyone could track the exact amount wagered and whether won or lost on every single hand, especially given how quickly I play. You're speaking from complete lack of experience. And wasting a lot of words in your long misguided post.

Even if recording the average bet were a part of the terms - it is not - the only accurate way to decide this wager is to track from the point of view of a pit boss, i.e. the same as any pit boss would track play. It's just obvious you, and most anyone else commenting on this including AxelAss, have little or no table game experience, and certainly not for high end Baccarat.

Are you betting huge stacks of green and red chips?

You look at the color of the chips, you count how many chips there are of each color...the bet either wins or loses. It sounds like you pay all Banker commissions at the end, so that can be subtracted from the final tally.

I'm sorry, but the notion that an actuary could not track the chips switching sides on pen and paper is absurd.

[redietz]

This gets curiouser and curiouser.

Some things to ponder regarding various curiosities:

1) MDawg prefers to play alone, one on one at a table with the dealer.
2) If MDawg sought out such a situation, and was being formally observed, he would not or could not slow down his play?
3) His success must therefore be dependent somehow on the speed at which he executes his bets?
4) If playing with other people at his table, his betting would be slower and even easier to track.
5) But he bets too fast with others at the table for anyone to chart him with pen and paper?

I don't think my lack of baccarat experience (excuse me, high end baccarat experience) is the issue here.

There were three ways to approach this from the standpoint of a formal observer. One could simply record the action with a camera phone. I assume a bigger player, playing alone at a table, could swing that. But perhaps not. The second would be to keep a pen and paper log. The third would be to watch the player like a hawk to make sure no chips other than the buy in were added to the mix. This would require a personal search to prevent "reverse ratholing," accompanying the player on bathroom breaks and such to prevent the player accessing confederates or stashes of additional chips and so on. The latter would have been a pain in the ass, somewhat insulting to the player, but absolutely necessary in the absence of video recording or a logbook.

It all comes down to, "Why would someone trying to demonstrate something NOT allow a log book?" What sense does that make? What in the log book will give away the big secret?

[MDawg]

Too much speculation. Who allows ALL his commission to accumulate to the end of the shoe? I think even ExpectedValue, who claims to be some kind of casino player, is saying something to this effect at WOV. In the case of the people here at VCT, just take a pass (but keep your mouths shut), on that you don't know how any of this works. Next someone is going to speculate on when commission is paid. The correct answer is: whenever the player gets around to it. No one just lets it accumulate to the end of the shoe.

And then as far as speed of play, and what that means or doesn't mean. Rampant speculation.

The issue of Wizard's recording the play with a camera phone? Get a grip! Has any one of these people who suggested such a thing even been inside a casino in the last twenty years?

Just utter garbage nonsense from a bunch of clueless amateurs. I am glad I stopped responding to many of you long ago.

I made it clear that Wizard could monitor or record the session any way he chose fit for his private records, just that he could not disclose anything other than the results of the wager.

And then clueless AxelAss chirping about what the challenge was about - when he obviously hasn't read more than a few words of any of the posts because his reading ability fettered him.

I've already moved on. This ExpectedValue is not worth anyone's time. Guy is talking about what he wanted to do. If he were sharper he would have stated everything up front in writing, even if he doesn't know what the parole evidence rule is, he should at least know that we're not mind readers and what he wanted to propose is irrelevant - what he wrote down as proposed is all that matters.

Wizard should have just declared that a contract had already been finalized, money had changed hands and moved forward with the challenge. Specific performance. Since the contract was breached, ExpectedValue should offer up something equivalent to liquidated damages, in good faith. If he doesn't, it is up to Wizard to decide ExpectValue's fate at WOV.

As mentioned I've already moved on. I spent more time writing up my review of FIVE CARD STUD than I did thinking about ExpectedValue.

[kewlJ]

Too much speculation. Who allows ALL his commission to accumulate to the end of the shoe? I think even ExpectedValue, who claims to be some kind of casino player, is saying something to this effect at WOV. In the case of the people here at VCT, just take a pass (but keep your mouths shut), on that you don't know how any of this works. Next someone is going to speculate on when commission is paid. The correct answer is: whenever the player gets around to it. No one just lets it accumulate to the end of the shoe.

Just to be sure we are all on the same page, are you talking about the thread that is the #1 thread in the losing betting systems / voodoo section of WoV?

And now you have reneged on a wager/meet up as well. The spirit of that proposal was to get you to meet with Wizard and show him your play, your regular play, that you claim has won 55 sessions in a row now. You turned it into something else, knowing the offer would be withdrawn, because you can not and will not show your play to Wizard or you know you would be exposed as a fraud.

[coach belly]

This ExpectedValue is not worth anyone's time.

ExpectedValue is full of shit.

He sent me a PM that contradicts several things he posted on the forum.

He probably forgot what he wrote...but the truth doesn't change.

For anyone who thinks he's a sock puppet of a banned member,
EV also sent me his name & telephone number.

Both could be falsified, but they could show a link.

PM me if you want to compare notes,
not sure if forum rules here apply to non-members.

[MDawg]

Obviously. But - he's not the only one who is full of it. There are more than a couple of parakeets on here who can't help but yap uncontrollably out of a rigid doll face, repeating the same things over and over, all the while utterly obsessed with MDawg. The mentally ill can't help themselves and need to say things to quiet the demons in their pea brained skulls, oblivious to the fact that people stopped listening to them long ago.

[kewlJ]

This ExpectedValue is not worth anyone's time.

ExpectedValue is full of shit.

He sent me a PM that contradicts several things he posted on the forum.

He probably forgot what he wrote...but the truth doesn't change.

For anyone who thinks he's a sock puppet of a banned member,
EV also sent me his name & telephone number.

Both could be falsified, but they could show a link.

PM me if you want to compare notes,
not sure if forum rules here apply to non-members.

I would actually like to have a conversation about expectedvalue, as I had posted a pretty glowing endorsement of him about a week ago, based on his participation that I had encountered since my return to WoV and him never getting involved in any drama. Obviously some of that has changed and my thoughts have changed slightly as well, not a great deal, but slightly.

But I am not going to do that with you. I am still in shock of your posts from last night. Even for the troll that you are, I didn't expect that from you. You owe redietz an apology. I was hoping and expecting you would reply last night with something about not knowing or having forgotten. Instead you doubled down with an even more bizare post about not needing a wife to father children. What is wrong with you? Where you drunk? That is honestly what I thought when I read it.

[Ivyleaguegrad]

Here is my pm to coach on March 27th. Which he never forwarded to Mdawg.

March 27, 2021 6:44 pm
Hi mdawg.it’s Xxx. Expected value. I really envy anyone that can win at bacc. I got to Vegas 1 time a month and haven’t had a winning session since COVID. I normally bet between 1-3k per hand. I’d love to play with you at either Wynn or mgm next trip (about 8 days. I am at the Wynn tower suites the 3-5th and mgm skyofts 6-10. I have 100k lines at both so the stakes aren’t an issue. I’d love to just mimic what you bet. Happy to treat anywhere you like for dinner. Thanks again
You can feel free to text me if better it’s 770-927-4720

Coach can be the asshole that he is but nothing changed. Except the dates of my trips. Keep in mind he requested I send him the message and he would forward but never did

[kewlJ]

Obviously. But - he's not the only one who is full of it. There are more than a couple of parakeets on here who can't help but yap uncontrollably out of a rigid doll face, repeating the same things over and over, all the while utterly obsessed with MDawg. The mentally ill can't help themselves and need to say things to quiet the demons in their pea brained skulls, oblivious to the fact that people stopped listening to them long ago.

Funny, 27 and growing is the number of people you listed that are wrong, most of them known AP's many right here in Vegas. And that was before Dan Druff came out and said he didn't believe you and Eliot, asked to comment, just linked to his Baccarat scammers and liars video that he made about YOU. I guess that puts us at 29. Lol. Everyone else is wrong and YOU are right. Another classic symptom of a Narcissist.

[coach belly]

There are more than a couple of parakeets on here
who can't help but yap uncontrollably

Not saying that parakeet tag applies to Mission,
but he wrote an analysis of the challenge where he
seems to misunderstand what terms were accepted.

1.) MDawg should have accepted (but had the right to decline)
the additional terms of the results being recorded.

Didn't you agree that the Wizard could record the results?

[coach belly]

Keep in mind he requested I send him the message
and he would forward but never did

I sent it to him as soon as I read it.

Nothing changed except most of what you wrote,
LOL...that's obviously a pattern with you.

The truth does not change.

You wrote that you searched multiple properties
morning, noon and night for 8 days, looking for MDawg.

Which 8 days was that?

Send a trip report about your stay at MGM.

[MDawg]

Here is my pm to coach on March 27th. Which he never forwarded to Mdawg.

March 27, 2021 6:44 pm
Hi mdawg.it’s Xxx. Expected value. I really envy anyone that can win at bacc. I got to Vegas 1 time a month and haven’t had a winning session since COVID. I normally bet between 1-3k per hand. I’d love to play with you at either Wynn or mgm next trip (about 8 days. I am at the Wynn tower suites the 3-5th and mgm skyofts 6-10. I have 100k lines at both so the stakes aren’t an issue. I’d love to just mimic what you bet. Happy to treat anywhere you like for dinner. Thanks again
You can feel free to text me if better it’s 770-927-4720

Coach can be the asshole that he is but nothing changed. Except the dates of my trips. Keep in mind he requested I send him the message and he would forward but never did

Just two observations. You refer to yourself as an Ivyleaguegrad.

In your post at WOV you didn't know the difference between loose and lose. I don't think I ever in my life confused the two words, not even during middle school, let alone after completing college. I would be utterly mortified if a post that I made anywhere at any time were published with such a grammatical error in it, I'd never allow it to get to the point of being posted.



I really don't want to get into it with you. From your text that CoachBelly did not give to me until just today, you don't sound like a bad guy. But in my opinion if you were a stand up guy, you'd honor what you proposed, versus trying to get something that you didn't propose. Good luck, and good night.

[MDawg]

Didn't you agree that the Wizard could record the results?

YES. I stated more than once that Wizard could record it however he saw fit. Then ExpectedValue came in with yet another proposed term, which was that everything Wizard recorded be turned over to him, which as everyone knows and agrees was never a term of our challenge.

[kewlJ]

Here is my pm to coach on March 27th. Which he never forwarded to Mdawg.

March 27, 2021 6:44 pm
Hi mdawg.it’s Xxx. Expected value. I really envy anyone that can win at bacc. I got to Vegas 1 time a month and haven’t had a winning session since COVID. I normally bet between 1-3k per hand. I’d love to play with you at either Wynn or mgm next trip (about 8 days. I am at the Wynn tower suites the 3-5th and mgm skyofts 6-10. I have 100k lines at both so the stakes aren’t an issue. I’d love to just mimic what you bet. Happy to treat anywhere you like for dinner. Thanks again
You can feel free to text me if better it’s 770-927-4720

Coach can be the asshole that he is but nothing changed. Except the dates of my trips. Keep in mind he requested I send him the message and he would forward but never did

Welcome to hell (I mean this forum), Ivyleagegrad.

Since you are here, can I ask what was the intent of your proposal? To me you were offering a little incentive to both Wizard and Mdawg to get this meetup and witnessing of a session of play done.....a regular normal session that Mdawg has described in his great "fantasies". I don't want to speak for you, but am I interpreting that wrong?

I think the mistake made was to tie some money to the session being observed as a winning session. that changed the dynamic and took it away from witnessing a so called normal session of the great fantasy, to doing whatever necessary, small token bets that don't match what Mdawg has described, just to win that additional money. Once that occured these guys, meaning Mdawg and his army of trolls and sockpuppets just kept pushing and changing, knowing you would have to pull back. That is what Mdawg wanted all along. Comments?

[coach belly]

bizare post about not needing a wife to father children.

Have your conversation with EV, he's here using another screen name,
which he didn't previously disclose or bother to use to post here.

He's obviously been monitoring this forum, but never posted until tonight.

What's your point above?
Are you asserting that a wife is required for a man to father children?

[coach belly]

Mdawg and his army of trolls and sockpuppets just kept pushing and changing

There you go making shit up again, and presenting it as fact.

Mr Ivyleaguegrad (with elementary school grammar) made all the changes.

[MDawg]

The parakeets are more like the Gang of Four I have mentioned before, jbjb, UNKewlJ, AxelAss and MrV.

Mission146 did miss a few aspects of the challenge and got some other things wrong, but otherwise he made a good go at it. Although sometimes REDietz is closer to the mark, this time REDietz missed most everything and came up with wildly bizarre interpretations with little more than a free wheeling, Marx Brothers approach to the reality of what actually happened in this challenge, or what happens at a Baccarat table.