The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

[monet]

I don't believe for one second you tried to use a duplicate account !.....You do realize Strictly AP and WON were the same character. He can also be Dog ? Marcus Clark ?, Wellbush ?. etc

I was kind of making a funny when I said StrictlyAP and WoN.
This is because my fiasco basically got his user name of WoN Nuked.
You see Mike claims that he never knew that WoN was StrictlyAP even though every one of his Moderators and all of his AP Pals on the site knew and made constant jokes about it.

As I said before... I'm a hothead and I asked for a 30 day self-suspension and Mike gave it to me.
Of course I got itchy to post and just created a another username (PingPangPong).
At the time I didn't think anything of it.
They let me post for about two weeks under that name without any problem and everyone joked about it.
Nobody was upset.
I really didn't know that it was a huge deal (no no) or that it broke the rules because I never read them.
I didn't know you couldn't post whatever you wanted on the internet.
A bit naive at the time with the ethics of forums and what not.
I learned kind of fast as Mike banned me pretty quick lol.

He and the Mods were going to overlook the duplicate account until I told him to GFY and Jump lol.
I didn't like what he said to me so you know... I blasted him, publicly as I don't fuck around with that PM bullshit.

So yeah people got all upset because he said duplicate accounts are never tolerated.
So he Nuked me and all the MoDs and APs joked around that WoN was StrictlyAP.

So Mike had a meeting with his MoDs and after that he said that He and the MoDs had strayed from the rules.
They banned WoN and said they would be more strict with the rules but that never lasted lol.
Anyways... whatever... I did make a duplicate account though.

I think that theywontpayontuesday might be WoN but I could care less.
People like WoN don't bother me and obviously none of the APs on WoV, the Wizard or Bob Dancer have a real problem with WoN because they all partnered up with him at one time or another.
WoN only bothers them now because he burned them lol.
It doesn't take much for the Mob to turn on you and bring the pitchforks.

MDawg is WoN??
That wouldn't matter to me either.
I barely read any of MDawgs posts and WoN never posted much that I read.
The funny thing was that he constantly advertised to hire employees on a duplicate account at WoV for how many years??
lol lol lol... Wizard in Cahoots with WoN and now MDawg or are they the same person!?
I dunno... don't really care except for a little bit of the entertainment.
In my mind MDawg is just telling his stories or adventures.
I never seen him trying to sell anything or meet up with people to rob them.
Fiction or Non-Fiction doesn't really matter as nobody is forced to read his threads/posts.

[Ozzy]

I don't believe for one second you tried to use a duplicate account !.....You do realize Strictly AP and WON were the same character. He can also be Dog ? Marcus Clark ?, Wellbush ?. etc

I was kind of making a funny when I said StrictlyAP and WoN.
This is because my fiasco basically got his user name of WoN Nuked.
You see Mike claims that he never knew that WoN was StrictlyAP even though every one of his Moderators and all of his AP Pals on the site knew and made constant jokes about it.

As I said before... I'm a hothead and I asked for a 30 day self-suspension and Mike gave it to me.
Of course I got itchy to post and just created a another username (PingPangPong).
At the time I didn't think anything of it.
They let me post for about two weeks under that name without any problem and everyone joked about it.
Nobody was upset.
I really didn't know that it was a huge deal (no no) or that it broke the rules because I never read them.
I didn't know you couldn't post whatever you wanted on the internet.
A bit naive at the time with the ethics of forums and what not.
I learned kind of fast as Mike banned me pretty quick lol.

He and the Mods were going to overlook the duplicate account until I told him to GFY and Jump lol.
I didn't like what he said to me so you know... I blasted him, publicly as I don't fuck around with that PM bullshit.

So yeah people got all upset because he said duplicate accounts are never tolerated.
So he Nuked me and all the MoDs and APs joked around that WoN was StrictlyAP.

So Mike had a meeting with his MoDs and after that he said that He and the MoDs had strayed from the rules.
They banned WoN and said they would be more strict with the rules but that never lasted lol.
Anyways... whatever... I did make a duplicate account though.

I think that theywontpayontuesday might be WoN but I could care less.
People like WoN don't bother me and obviously none of the APs on WoV, the Wizard or Bob Dancer have a real problem with WoN because they all partnered up with him at one time or another.
WoN only bothers them now because he burned them lol.
It doesn't take much for the Mob to turn on you and bring the pitchforks.

Dancer got stiffed pretty good by Won/ StrictlyAP etc... Couldn't have happened to a more stand up guy then " Dual Dancer".........I believe theywontpayontuesday is Mamat

[kewlJ]

There is a rationale for not allowing sock puppets. It mainly has to do with members creating phony members that agree with them for credibility where there otherwise is none.

On a forum like WoV that bans people right and left (no other forum bans that many members), obviously you don't want banned members creating new accounts and returning. But that is a situation of their own making by banning so many unnecessarily to begin with.

You have to look at intent. IMO, intent in Monet's example was not to deceive or create any kind of credibility where non existed. neither was my spiderman. I just wanted to warn players on a forum, I otherwise couldn't. And example of intent to deceive is the current situation with Mdawg, creating sock puppets to support him, because he has no or little support otherwise. Singer, notoriously did the same.

So there should be some flexibility as to what intent is. Unfortunately, flexibility is not one of Michael Shackleford's strong points, to say the least. He is very rigid and inflexible (think Sheldon).

And it should be mentioned there is a third use of sockpuppets: Nathan/Tasha and all the other names. Let's just call that one "crazy town".

[monet]

Dancer got stiffed pretty good by Won/ StrictlyAP etc... Couldn't have happened to a more stand up guy then " Dual Dancer".........I believe theywontpayontuesday is Mamat

We all got it coming.
I thought Mike was supposed to be the Gold Standard for Honesty in the Underworld of Gambling?
Impossible.
His name the Wizard is from a known Mobster.
He partners with people like WoN.
He has goofy videos with that girl lol.
Serbs?
500 Dollars?
The list goes on and on.
Obvious Bad Guy.

[Ozzy]

I would have to say 3/4 or so of socks are good to very occasionally great posters. Its ironic some of the most frequent and or sophisticated sock/dupe creators are the worst sock/dupe detectors

[kewlJ]

Dancer got stiffed pretty good by Won/ StrictlyAP etc... Couldn't have happened to a more stand up guy then " Dual Dancer".........I believe theywontpayontuesday is Mamat

We all got it coming.
I thought Mike was supposed to be the Gold Standard for Honesty in the Underworld of Gambling?
Impossible.
His name the Wizard is from a known Mobster.
He partners with people like WoN.
He has goofy videos with that girl lol.
Serbs?
500 Dollars?
The list goes on and on.
Obvious Bad Guy.

Of all your evilness, bigotry, homophobia, bitterness, HATE and just general negativity, looking for and seeing the worst in every person and every situation, this exemplifies what I dislike most about you. First, you are judgmental, which is pretty shitty to begin with, but you think everyone is as evil as you, and are out to prove it.

The truth is there is good and bad in everybody, although I have yet to see much good in you, it must be buried very, very deep (below a lot of fat ), but I suspect it is there. This is what being human is! Good and bad.

So Mike sold his business to the Serbs for mega bucks. Obviously that wasn't his intent when he started WoO/WoV. It was about the math (the good days) and making a name for himself as a gambling math expert. Selling out to online casino company is a bit sleazy, but that is business and that's what it was. Anyone with half a brain would have done the same.

His "goofy" videos with girls: Pretty geeky IMO, old school tactic of having pretty girls in videos or selling things. Today that is kind of thought of as exploitative, but whatever. IMO, Mike is only embarrassing himself and proving himself to be kind of goofy and outdated.

I don't know nothing about WoN partnership. I really don't. wasn't during my time there and I paid little attention.

"Oviously a bad guy": See that is you. That is what you want to see. You see and take delight in seeing only the bad. You are Mr. Negative. But what is even uglier, is your need to judge people like you do. Someone really screwed you up as a kid and it has totally fucked you up as an adult.

[monet]

Of all your evilness, bigotry, homophobia, bitterness, HATE and just general negativity, looking for and seeing the worst in every person and every situation, this exemplifies what I dislike most about you. First, you are judgmental, which is pretty shitty to begin with, but you think everyone is as evil as you, and are out to prove it.

The truth is there is good and bad in everybody, although I have yet to see much good in you, it must be buried very, very deep (below a lot of fat ), but I suspect it is there. This is what being human is! Good and bad.

So Mike sold his business to the Serbs for mega bucks. Obviously that wasn't his intent when he started WoO/WoV. It was about the math (the good days) and making a name for himself as a gambling math expert. Selling out to online casino company is a bit sleazy, but that is business and that's what it was. Anyone with half a brain would have done the same.

His "goofy" videos with girls: Pretty geeky IMO, old school tactic of having pretty girls in videos or selling things. Today that is kind of thought of as exploitative, but whatever. IMO, Mike is only embarrassing himself and proving himself to be kind of goofy and outdated.

I don't know nothing about WoN partnership. I really don't. wasn't during my time there and I paid little attention.

"Oviously a bad guy": See that is you. That is what you want to see. You see and take delight in seeing only the bad. You are Mr. Negative. But what is even uglier, is your need to judge people like you do. Someone really screwed you up as a kid and it has totally fucked you up as an adult.

I'm offended that you think I have General Negativity.
That's a low blow.
Even for you.
Nothing General about my Negativity.

[Ozzy]

Dancer got stiffed pretty good by Won/ StrictlyAP etc... Couldn't have happened to a more stand up guy then " Dual Dancer".........I believe theywontpayontuesday is Mamat

We all got it coming.
I thought Mike was supposed to be the Gold Standard for Honesty in the Underworld of Gambling?
Impossible.
His name the Wizard is from a known Mobster.
He partners with people like WoN.
He has goofy videos with that girl lol.
Serbs?
500 Dollars?
The list goes on and on.
Obvious Bad Guy.

Of all your evilness, bigotry, homophobia, bitterness, HATE and just general negativity, looking for and seeing the worst in every person and every situation, this exemplifies what I dislike most about you. First, you are judgmental, which is pretty shitty to begin with, but you think everyone is as evil as you, and are out to prove it.

The truth is there is good and bad in everybody, although I have yet to see much good in you, it must be buried very, very deep (below a lot of fat ), but I suspect it is there. This is what being human is! Good and bad.

So Mike sold his business to the Serbs for mega bucks. Obviously that wasn't his intent when he started WoO/WoV. It was about the math (the good days) and making a name for himself as a gambling math expert. Selling out to online casino company is a bit sleazy, but that is business and that's what it was. Anyone with half a brain would have done the same.

His "goofy" videos with girls: Pretty geeky IMO, old school tactic of having pretty girls in videos or selling things. Today that is kind of thought of as exploitative, but whatever. IMO, Mike is only embarrassing himself and proving himself to be kind of goofy and outdated.

I don't know nothing about WoN partnership. I really don't. wasn't during my time there and I paid little attention.

"Oviously a bad guy": See that is you. That is what you want to see. You see and take delight in seeing only the bad. You are Mr. Negative. But what is even uglier, is your need to judge people like you do. Someone really screwed you up as a kid and it has totally fucked you up as an adult.

Why are you sugar coating Rusty " kind of goofy" KJ he's a complete goof in those videos. Say it like you mean it.

[kewlJ]

Why are you sugar coating Rusty " kind of goofy" KJ he's a complete goof in those videos. Say it like you mean it.

He is a complete goof in those videos.

What does it matter. That is on him. That doesn't make him "an obviously bad guy". There are things it is fair to be critical about. AND I USUALY AM. The videos aren't one of them. Totally insignificant.

[The Boz]

Why are you sugar coating Rusty " kind of goofy" KJ he's a complete goof in those videos. Say it like you mean it.

He is a complete goof in those videos.

What does it matter. That is on him. That doesn't make him "an obviously bad guy". There are things it is fair to be critical about. AND I USUALY AM. The videos aren't one of them. Totally insignificant.

But it does make him seem like a total pervert. The constant sexual innuendo comes off as from an awkward 18 year old. Maybe he truly is a Man Child as others have said. He does have that history of being kicked out of a group when members said they weren’t comfortable being around him.

Either way, it’s a good bet Heather has between $500 and $1250 coming her way soon for more cleavage videos.

[Tasha]

Let's deal with real numbers. Don Johnson said he negotiated a 20% loss rebate.

DJ was playing with an over 10% edge WITHOUT the rebates.

According to this interview Don Johnson did not have that 10% edge. What is your source?

Here's Don Johnson's interview.



And there's more in an article in Blackjack Apprenticeship. You can Google it. I tried to copy the link but I can't. .

Psshaw! He won $15 Million at Blackjack, not all that impressive. Someone won 600 Million on a $3 Powerball bet.....

[MDawg]

The MDawg Challenge Courtesy of DarkOz.

[MDawg]

MDawg Wins... Wizard Approved.
Sponsored by DarkOz!
Helicopters flying on Mars.
Math Geeks proven Wrong!
AxelWolf still Scamming 2021.

[redietz]

The MDawg Challenge Courtesy of DarkOz.

Well, MDawg, since I'm not one of those guys who challenged your watches or your level of play, which I don't find terribly high, all I can say is don't spend all of DarkOz's money in one place. LOL.

Now, as to "reading the flow of the cards," well, that's just utter nonsense. Of course, DarkOz is going to be providing wing man duties going forward as now he needs to justify his donation with insights as to your AP angles.

To quote from Guys and Dolls,

"One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an earful of cider."

[Mission146]

The MDawg Challenge Courtesy of DarkOz.

Well, MDawg, since I'm not one of those guys who challenged your watches or your level of play, which I don't find terribly high, all I can say is don't spend all of DarkOz's money in one place. LOL.

Now, as to "reading the flow of the cards," well, that's just utter nonsense. Of course, DarkOz is going to be providing wing man duties going forward as now he needs to justify his donation with insights as to your AP angles.

To quote from Guys and Dolls,

"One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an earful of cider."

Why'd you get banned? What a great quote! WoV needs posts like that!

[redietz]

The MDawg Challenge Courtesy of DarkOz.

Well, MDawg, since I'm not one of those guys who challenged your watches or your level of play, which I don't find terribly high, all I can say is don't spend all of DarkOz's money in one place. LOL.

Now, as to "reading the flow of the cards," well, that's just utter nonsense. Of course, DarkOz is going to be providing wing man duties going forward as now he needs to justify his donation with insights as to your AP angles.

To quote from Guys and Dolls,

"One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an earful of cider."

Why'd you get banned? What a great quote! WoV needs posts like that!

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...68/#post803471



My point was that I was posting a "system" just like Wellbush had posted in defense of MDawg. Only my "system" actually had methodology details and an internal logic, as opposed to Wellbush, who was non-specific. Both are, of course, ridiculous, but at least mine had internal logic and spelled out details.


I see that sabre, who posted after me, was not at first suspended, but now he is. LOL. He said he could also read flows of cards, but only if he was within 15 feet of the cards and stark naked. Somehow I was suspended while his post was left in good standing for a day.

I blame that on Shackleford's love of any sentence with the word "naked" in it.

But eventually sabre was suspended as well.

Shackleford has gone off the rails. From a serious gambling perspective, the site is junk. But maybe that's what the Serbs are shooting for. More power to them rounding up the rubes.

[Mission146]

Well, MDawg, since I'm not one of those guys who challenged your watches or your level of play, which I don't find terribly high, all I can say is don't spend all of DarkOz's money in one place. LOL.

Now, as to "reading the flow of the cards," well, that's just utter nonsense. Of course, DarkOz is going to be providing wing man duties going forward as now he needs to justify his donation with insights as to your AP angles.

To quote from Guys and Dolls,

"One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an earful of cider."

Why'd you get banned? What a great quote! WoV needs posts like that!

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...68/#post803471



My point was that I was posting a "system" just like Wellbush had posted in defense of MDawg. Only my "system" actually had methodology details and an internal logic, as opposed to Wellbush, who was non-specific. Both are, of course, ridiculous, but at least mine had internal logic and spelled out details.


I see that sabre, who posted after me, was not at first suspended, but now he is. LOL. He said he could also read flows of cards, but only if he was within 15 feet of the cards and stark naked. Somehow I was suspended while his post was left in good standing for a day.

I blame that on Shackleford's love of any sentence with the word "naked" in it.

But eventually sabre was suspended as well.

Shackleford has gone off the rails. From a serious gambling perspective, the site is junk. But maybe that's what the Serbs are shooting for. More power to them rounding up the rubes.

I disagree with the length of your ban, but given the nature of your parodic system, there's no question that Rule 19 was violated. I'd have had no other choice but to toss a ban your way, were I still an Admin. I'd have probably looked through your previous infractions to see if any involved religion, and if not, would have treated it as an entirely new offense and given you three days rather than Martingale. I consider you as, "Having value to the Forum," so I would be slightly biased towards trying to ban you for as little time as I could reasonably defend.

It's a message board, so it is what the posters make it, in that regard. Once upon a time, there was so much going on there that MDawg's thread could be just as active as it is now, but it wouldn't hold Top 10 Most Recent for longer than an hour at a time.

[The Boz]

Why'd you get banned? What a great quote! WoV needs posts like that!

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...68/#post803471



My point was that I was posting a "system" just like Wellbush had posted in defense of MDawg. Only my "system" actually had methodology details and an internal logic, as opposed to Wellbush, who was non-specific. Both are, of course, ridiculous, but at least mine had internal logic and spelled out details.


I see that sabre, who posted after me, was not at first suspended, but now he is. LOL. He said he could also read flows of cards, but only if he was within 15 feet of the cards and stark naked. Somehow I was suspended while his post was left in good standing for a day.

I blame that on Shackleford's love of any sentence with the word "naked" in it.

But eventually sabre was suspended as well.

Shackleford has gone off the rails. From a serious gambling perspective, the site is junk. But maybe that's what the Serbs are shooting for. More power to them rounding up the rubes.

I disagree with the length of your ban, but given the nature of your parodic system, there's no question that Rule 19 was violated. I'd have had no other choice but to toss a ban your way, were I still an Admin. I'd have probably looked through your previous infractions to see if any involved religion, and if not, would have treated it as an entirely new offense and given you three days rather than Martingale. I consider you as, "Having value to the Forum," so I would be slightly biased towards trying to ban you for as little time as I could reasonably defend.

It's a message board, so it is what the posters make it, in that regard. Once upon a time, there was so much going on there that MDawg's thread could be just as active as it is now, but it wouldn't hold Top 10 Most Recent for longer than an hour at a time.

So because of MDawgs crazy claims, no one else can make any gambling claims over there now? And if they do it is considered trolling?

How does that make any sense at all? How do we know they are not true? Or that the posters that have been suspended for claims don’t actually believe them? Do we know for a fact Sabre didn’t pull his clothes off 15 feet from a table? Perhaps he didn’t measure but was actually 17 feet away? Does anyone have access to any recent arrests for indecent exposure in a casino?

Just gives more credibility to those who claim MDawg and his socks run the forum and the Wizard is his puppet.

[redietz]

Exactly. I never mention MDawg in those posts.

The core issue is that "reading the flow of cards" is a basic parody of the entire alleged WoV take on material gambling reality. All of the MDawg posts are a WoV parody.

[redietz]

Why'd you get banned? What a great quote! WoV needs posts like that!

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...68/#post803471



My point was that I was posting a "system" just like Wellbush had posted in defense of MDawg. Only my "system" actually had methodology details and an internal logic, as opposed to Wellbush, who was non-specific. Both are, of course, ridiculous, but at least mine had internal logic and spelled out details.


I see that sabre, who posted after me, was not at first suspended, but now he is. LOL. He said he could also read flows of cards, but only if he was within 15 feet of the cards and stark naked. Somehow I was suspended while his post was left in good standing for a day.

I blame that on Shackleford's love of any sentence with the word "naked" in it.

But eventually sabre was suspended as well.

Shackleford has gone off the rails. From a serious gambling perspective, the site is junk. But maybe that's what the Serbs are shooting for. More power to them rounding up the rubes.

I disagree with the length of your ban, but given the nature of your parodic system, there's no question that Rule 19 was violated. I'd have had no other choice but to toss a ban your way, were I still an Admin. I'd have probably looked through your previous infractions to see if any involved religion, and if not, would have treated it as an entirely new offense and given you three days rather than Martingale. I consider you as, "Having value to the Forum," so I would be slightly biased towards trying to ban you for as little time as I could reasonably defend.

It's a message board, so it is what the posters make it, in that regard. Once upon a time, there was so much going on there that MDawg's thread could be just as active as it is now, but it wouldn't hold Top 10 Most Recent for longer than an hour at a time.

MDawg's posts are a parody of WoV and all AP postings! Don't you get that?