The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

[coach belly]

I volunteer and can make myself available to verify your play. Based on the current relationship between AxelWolf and myself, I don't think it a good idea that I be involved on his end. Besides, I want to see exactly what you are doing.

The observers should be appointed by the players.

Each player appoint an observer to watch the other player.

Like in boxing, where each fighter's rep watches the opponent get their hands wrapped.

[kewlJ]

I volunteer and can make myself available to verify your play. Based on the current relationship between AxelWolf and myself, I don't think it a good idea that I be involved on his end. Besides, I want to see exactly what you are doing.

The observers should be appointed by the players.

Each player appoint an observer to watch the other player.

Like in boxing, where each fighter's rep watches the opponent get their hands wrapped.

That's fine and probably a good idea. I am just throwing it out there that I live in Vegas and am willing to make myself available (unless the casinos open before I am comfortable going back and spending time there).

[coach belly]

That's fine and probably a good idea.

An idea anyway...probably not good enough to stand alone.

The reps would likely be considered biased.

Still need an objective way to verify results, judges or something.

[redietz]

That's fine and probably a good idea.

An idea anyway...probably not good enough to stand alone.

The reps would likely be considered biased.

Still need an objective way to verify results, judges or something.

LOL. Hate to suggest this, but "Singer" would make a fine judge. He's antithetical to MDawg, at least in public, and he understands all the trickerations of a martingale type of wagering, so he could design protocols that would, essentially, negate his own kinds of challenges as well as MDawg's.

Kind of a Mad magazine Spy vs. Spy thing.

You boys should have fun with that idea. Especially when figuring out where "Singer's" loyalties might lie. When someone says he's an AP playing at being an anti-AP except when he's using his anti-AP system, there's a lot of thinking involved.

[coach belly]

Hate to suggest this, but "Singer" would make a fine judge.

How about Andrew G?

It's been insinuated that Andrew is actually a sock of someone whose reputation is considered to be beyond reproach.

It all must be true...I read it on VCT.

[blackhole]

Don't bother with all the banter. Axel has been bullshitting everyone for years. He's real good at it. He's not showing up period.

Funny how he always wants to show up when he's not the one who has to prove anything. He's first to volunteer for that.

He's just another fraud pressing buttons for an alleged living.

[kewlJ]

How about Andrew G?

It's been insinuated that Andrew is actually a sock of someone whose reputation is considered to be beyond reproach.

Wait...what? Who thinks "Andrew's" reputation is beyond reproach? Maybe you should do a poll.

[coach belly]

Who thinks "Andrew's" reputation is beyond reproach?

I don't know, I haven't read that about Andrew G's reputation.

[kewlJ]

Who thinks "Andrew's" reputation is beyond reproach?

I don't know, I haven't read that about Andrew G's reputation.

well if Andrew wants to confirm that he is actually the person we are talking about, then we can move on to discuss that persons reputation.

[Rob.Singer]

How about Andrew G?

It's been insinuated that Andrew is actually a sock of someone whose reputation is considered to be beyond reproach.

Wait...what? Who thinks "Andrew's" reputation is beyond reproach? Maybe you should do a poll.

You and your "polls" They're all based on emotion and not facts. Perfect for a shoot-from-the-hipster like kew!
Remember how "lock down sure" they were about Hillary?

Wise up.

[Rob.Singer]

Hate to suggest this, but "Singer" would make a fine judge.

How about Andrew G?

It's been insinuated that Andrew is actually a sock of someone whose reputation is considered to be beyond reproach.

It all must be true...I read it on VCT.

I'll be a judge. And I'll bring a bag with $1million in cash to prove it's me.

[coach belly]

if Andrew wants to confirm that he is actually the person we are talking about, then we can move on to discuss that persons reputation.

Why don't you prove that Andrew G is a sock, since you've insisted that he is?

[kewlJ]

if Andrew wants to confirm that he is actually the person we are talking about, then we can move on to discuss that persons reputation.

Why don't you prove that Andrew G is a sock, since you've insisted that he is?

I can't because I don't own this forum and have access to that information. But in private discussions with someone who does, I am confident about what I am insisting. Maybe you should inquire.

Can you prove that he isn't?

[coach belly]

Can you prove that he isn't?

I can't prove that he isn't, and I can't prove that you aren't either.

To be clear...are you claiming that the forum owner (aka Dan Druff) has shared evidence with you privately that a member has acquired an alternate screen name (Andrew G), and has been posting under that screen name with Druff's knowledge?

[kewlJ]

Can you prove that he isn't?

To be clear...are you claiming that the forum owner (aka Dan Druff) has shared evidence with you privately that a member has acquired an alternate screen name (Andrew G), and has been posting under that screen name with Druff's knowledge?

No, I most certainly did not say that. And that is all I am going to say. I am not going to say what was or wasn't said in private. But I feel confident in what I am alleging.

[kewlJ]

Coach belly, I suggest YOU ask Dan if there is something you want to know.

[coach belly]

Coach belly, I suggest YOU ask Dan if there is something you want to know.

I hadn't considered that Dan would divulge that kind of information privately...until you threw him under the bus.

But if Andrew G is a sock puppet, then he likely won't want to participate as a judge.

[kewlJ]

Coach belly, I suggest YOU ask Dan if there is something you want to know.

I hadn't considered that Dan would divulge that kind of information privately...until you threw him under the bus.

But if Andrew G is a sock puppet, then he likely won't want to participate as a judge.

Well sockpuppetry IS against the rules here, although admittedly it is hard to know exactly what the rules are because Dan is so inconsistent and an absentee owner/administrator that just doesn't give a damn about this forum. So Dan doesn't spend time looking for sockpuppets, you have to bring it to his attention and then he will look into it. Sometimes he does this publicly as he did when he busted Singer's sockpuppet what was it Girlfriday who showed up to try to back up some of Singers false accusations and did again when Moses created an imaginary girlfriend sockpuppet to speak for him after he was banned.

In the case of AndrewG, Dan chose to not make his conclusion public. What do you want me to tell you...I have no say in how Dan chooses to operate. While I won't speak for Dan, my takeaway is that "intent" plays a part. And I get the feeling that Dan doesn't think AndrewG's intent was that of most socks. Just someone who had worn out his welcome under one handle, and still wanted to participate. AND as Dan did say publicly once on this forum, as the founder of this forum, Alan was entitled to different treatment than other members.

And here is something interesting. With all the suggestion that Andrew is Alan, I don't think AndrewG has ever denied that he is. Oh he will say something cute like "who is this Alan", but I don't remember him ever saying, No he was not. How about it AndrewG, care to weigh in?

[AndrewG]

Hello everyone. I would be happy to participate as a witness. But you'll have to explain exactly what I am supposed to be witnessing since I am not a baccarat player and I have no idea what games Mr AxelWolf will play. If it's a matter of verification of chip counts or buy-ins I certainly can do that.

[mickeycrimm]

Hello everyone. I would be happy to participate as a witness. But you'll have to explain exactly what I am supposed to be witnessing since I am not a baccarat player and I have no idea what games Mr AxelWolf will play. If it's a matter of verification of chip counts or buy-ins I certainly can do that.

And you can regale MDawg with your story of rolling 18 yo's in a row.