The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

[AndrewG]

Mr Mdawg wrote this:

"once the cards are set in the shoe, the outcome is fixed, cannot change."

Again I must ask this question: if the outcome is fixed how do you know what that outcome will be? How do you know which time the result will be player or banker or tie?

Unless you tell us your method, how can anyone bet that you are right or you are wrong?

This entire discussion makes no sense.

For example, I heard of a roulette player who uses this strategy: if a 0 or 00 appears he will bet 0 and 00 because his "research" shows a repeat within five spins. That is a specific which can be challenged with a bet.

Mdawg you have not provided a specific.

[MDawg]

Andrew they say you are the sock puppet of some other forum member, why doesn't that forum member just ask me himself?

Okay I had time to read Axel's post. While just shy of coherence , I was able to gather the meaning.

I have had friends who are in town when I'm there come and play with me. They've brought small amounts of money and I've directed them to place money on top of mine during certain bets. I actually wrote about this at WOV I think it was, on the penultimate trip, where the house started objecting to that one friend's bets were too small and asked him to bet at least $25. each time. (Which, they could have insisted on $100. since the pit boss at the time mentioned that my friend's bankroll was independent of mine and should therefore be subject to the table black chip minimum, but out of respect for me, they let him slide with just $25. a pop.) Anyway, on each occasion (except for one I mention below where the guy came grossly undercapitalized and lost $10.) the friend has won, until he's doubled his money, and then I have suggested that he stop.

I don't like to do this for friends, as I end up worrying about their bankroll more than my own. And the first time a friend came to do this he came with a measly $50., somehow managed to end up ten down, and I just tossed him ten bucks when I colored up.

I have also guided that girl I met in Vegas towards winning a few grand each time she played with me, but in neither those occasions with her, nor in any occasion where friends showed up with a few hundred bucks, has any one of them followed my exact bets dollar for dollar.

In any case, what I think Axel is proposing is no different from my handing him money to gamble and asking him to give me back my money at the end of the session, minus whatever he won or lost for the session. Is that what he wants me to do? because if so, Could you repeat it? 'Cause I can't believe my fucking ears.

[coach belly]

Is that what he wants me to do?

He would play at the same table as you, betting his own money, and copy your bets.

After the session is over, if he wins he'll give you half of what he won.

So if you win 1X for the session on your spot, then you would win 1.5X overall, because Axel would give you half of the 1X he won on his spot.

If he loses, you must reimburse him for whatever he lost, I guess since it was your fault that he lost copying your bet.

So if you lose 1X for the session on your spot, then you would lose 2X overall, because you would pay Axel 1X for the money he lost on his spot.

He wants you to risk 2X to win 1.5X, while he risks 0 to win .5X

It's ridiculous, he's fucking with you, trying to be cute.

It seems Blackhole is right about Axel after all.

[coach belly]

Andrew they say you are the sock puppet of some other forum member, why doesn't that forum member just ask me himself?

Great question.

tewlj insists that Andrew was identified by the forum owner as a sock puppet of the forum's founder, who quit in a huff some time ago.

Dan Druff hasn't confirmed or denied that, and neither has Andrew.

The problem is that tewlj claims that Andrew's true identity was revealed to him privately, and then I guess he spread the word around to other select members privately.

Absent Druff's public confirmation, tewlj's claim is dubious...it's gossip.

[kewlJ]

tewlj insists that Andrew was identified by the forum owner as a sock puppet of the forum's founder, who quit in a huff some time ago.

Coach Belly, you are a fucking liar. No ifs and or buts about it. I gave you the benefit of doubt and have twice now corrected you on this and you continue to post a lie. I never said Dan confirmed anything. I challenge you to post where I said that.

[AndrewG]

Amazing. I ask a question and Mdawg dodges it by raising a question about sock puppets.

I openly volunteered to witness any challenge.

Should I post a picture of myself holding my driver license?

Mr Mdawg do you or do you not have a system or method or do you fly by the seat of your pants?

If you fly by the seat of your pants there is nothing to test or challenge. If you have a method or system we need to know what it is so we can test its effectiveness.

Don't dodge. Answer.

We can't test lottery winners. We can't test megabucks winners. We can't test luck. We can't test variance. We can't test someone who won who has no system or method to account for the winning.

Put up or shut up, is the old saying.

[mickeycrimm]

MDawg has explained his system. He identifies streaks and goes with the streak. He says the cards are fixed. That is true. He also has said that since the cards are fixed when you go into a winning streak it will continue to the end of the shoe. He is saying that if you hit a winning streak it will continue. He's saying that results at some point in the shoe have a bearing on results sometime later in the shoe. That is his system in a nutshell.

You can count baccarat but the problem is there is not enough fluctuation in payback percentages to make it worthwhile. While the game averages around 99% there are times when you are at 99.5%. We all know that is not enough to increase your bet because you are still in the negative. MDawg's theory that results earlier in the shoe have a major bearing on results later in the shoe is clearly wrong. No degree'd mathematician will agree with him.

[blackhole]

Hey MDawg, This is the type of bullshit you're dealing with here.

Mickey and Axel had a disagreement about something that led to Mickey trashing Axel. The same two guys all over your shit. Below is a quick story about it. Eventually they made up and Mickey now alleges he made it all up about Axel simply because he was mad. True or false no one knows for sure. But, no matter how you want to look at this incident, this is the true caliper of personalities you're up against.

There is also a great post from Monet another AP in Vegas in another thread who knows Axel, and defiantly confirms Axel is an asshole. Monet also makes comment in the thread below a few posts down but, also had a long post about him in another thread. These are the people that should know the actual truth.



https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post80905

[AxelWolf]

how about a situation where he pays any and all losses at the end, or he gets half of all that person's wins at the end?

The player who sits alongside MDawg and copies his bets would risk nothing?

MDawg would essentially stake this player in exchange for half of the player's winnings?

if you always win, what's the problem? I have in fact had plays where I was certain it would win. I wanted extra help because I could only play one or two machines at a time, so I offered them a similar deal. The only difference was that I put up all the money. And I gave them 50% of the win none of the loss. That stuff doesn't come around very often, but it does come up. There's been many times where I've given the person a 25% free roll.

If you recall, after Mike had one of those contests things I offered to invest whatever we won on a small play where I was confident we would win. For someone else's help I proceeded to do just that. I won and give the money to Mike.

[AxelWolf]

Hey MDawg, This is the type of bullshit you're dealing with here.

Mickey and Axel had a disagreement about something that led to Mickey trashing Axel. The same two guys all over your shit. Below is a quick story about it. Eventually they made up and Mickey now alleges he made it all up about Axel simply because he was mad. True or false no one knows for sure. But, no matter how you want to look at this incident, this is the true caliper of personalities you're up against.

There is also a great post from Monet another AP in Vegas in another thread who knows Axel, and defiantly confirms Axel is an asshole. Monet also makes comment in the thread below a few posts down but, also had a long post about him in another thread. These are the people that should know the actual truth.



https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post80905

Nice cherry picking their buddy, why not post up the entire scope of the situation? I guess that's because it doesn't fit your narrative.

I've already privately apologized to Axel. We've both wished each a happy new year and are moving on. Now I am publicly apologizing to him.

What led me to fly off the handle was in Axel's post there was no quote of Alan. The only quotes were of me. I thought it was an out of the blue ad hominem attack on me. It didn't help that I had just gotten out of bed and was waiting on the coffee to brew. I'm not really with it until I suck down that first cup of coffee. After that, I really didn't think about it until Dan pointed out that the post was probably directed at Alan. I went back over the post and seen the error of my ways. I said some things I shouldn't have. I have no clue if Axel runs multiple cards. I just threw it in there for effect. Just like I did the skippers.

What I DO know about Axel is back in the late nineties when I was just starting he was world class. I was a mini pro at that point and hung out at the Riverside/Laughlin quite a bit. Some of the local hustlers told me about Axel and his crew. They told me that when that $5 8/5 Jacks progressive in the high roller room hit $42,000 Axel and crew would come in, lock up both machines, and play until they hit the royal. That's exactly what happened. I had watched the number on that bank climb all the way to 42K and sure enough Axel and his crew showed up.

I knew at that point that the upper tier pros really didn't care to fraternize with lowly mini pros like me. So I didn't try to strike up a conversation or anything. I was just observing them and they had no clue I was doing so. I came back down the next morning. The big royal was gone and so was Axel and his crew.

At what I call the Pioneer Hustlers Convention of 2002 I discovered a play. They had put in a double time system where hands between certain parameters would pay double. The double time would come several times per hour and last one minute. I was playing $1 Jacks betting one coin between double times then five coins in double time. You had to bet at least one coin every ten seconds between double times to keep the machine qualified for the double times. Eventually the slot techs started tweaking the system down until the double times didn't come so fast making the play worth not that much money.

Meanwhile, I had observed a Las Vegas couple, J & L (Axel will recognize who they are just by the initials) on some quarter Game Kings in another part of the casino. I knew they didn't play thin edges. Sometimes they would be playing video poker and sometimes they would be playing 4-card keno. I had no clue what they were doing but it was their play so I left them alone. On the day my play dried up I noticed they were no longer in the casino. So I moseyed over to that bank to see if I could figure out what they were doing.

Got to take care of something.....I'll finish next post.

[blackhole]

if you always win, what's the problem? I have in fact had plays where I was certain it would win. I wanted extra help because I could only play one or two machines at a time, so I offered them a similar deal. The only difference was that I put up all the money. And I gave them 50% of the win none of the loss. That stuff doesn't come around very often, but it does come up. There's been many times where I've given the person a 25% free roll.

If you recall, after Mike had one of those contests things I offered to invest whatever we won on a small play where I was confident we would win. For someone else's help I proceeded to do just that. I won and give the money to Mike.

Can you write off these donations at the end of the year as a tax deduction?

(Mickey changing his tune is irrelevant.)

[AxelWolf]

Can someone help find me that post where MD basically said if someone follows hits bets they would win or something like that?

[mickeycrimm]

MDawg, do you remember the advice you gave moderators at WoV last October? That anyone with 5 suspensions or more should be permanently banned. Well, you are at 4 suspensions over there. And no you can't hide behind saying the suspensions were unjust because you were on the wrong side of the issue. The posts you made that got you suspended can be read on the suspension list. You were heavily insulting members in all of them. Everyone and their brothers knows insults are against the rules over there. So you have no excusees.

[mickeycrimm]

if you always win, what's the problem? I have in fact had plays where I was certain it would win. I wanted extra help because I could only play one or two machines at a time, so I offered them a similar deal. The only difference was that I put up all the money. And I gave them 50% of the win none of the loss. That stuff doesn't come around very often, but it does come up. There's been many times where I've given the person a 25% free roll.

If you recall, after Mike had one of those contests things I offered to invest whatever we won on a small play where I was confident we would win. For someone else's help I proceeded to do just that. I won and give the money to Mike.

Can you write off these donations at the end of the year as a tax deduction?

(Mickey changing his tune is irrelevant.)

Blackhole is irrelevant. He's going to snivel all the way to the grave.

[BoSox]

Can someone help find me that post where MD basically said if someone follows hits bets they would win or something like that?

Axel, you can find that in post #575 in this thread.

He wrote the following:

"Yes if these other players would follow me they would win - consistently - but is there some formula I could write up in a book to teach someone to do what I do?

But no, it's not just blind luck. Blind luck would not have lasted all these years."

[coach belly]

I never said Dan confirmed anything. I challenge you to post where I said that.

I never said that Dan confirmed it, nor did I say that you said that Dan confirmed it....so I challenge you to post where I did.

You can see from above...I wrote that Dan has not confirmed it.

Dan Druff hasn't confirmed or denied that

Until Dan does confirm it, your accusation is just gossip...isn't it?

You have a reading comprehension problem, it's either because you see what you want to see, or you are a low IQ individual...or both.

[coach belly]

He is saying that if you hit a winning streak it will continue. He's saying that results at some point in the shoe have a bearing on results sometime later in the shoe.

I couldn't find where MDawg wrote any of that, can you post the quote where he did?

[MDawg]

The Adventures of MDawg is a factual trip report, it's not meant to be a lesson in BJ card counting, Baccarat win strategies or how to win at BJ or Baccarat. Whatever I have mentioned is the extent of what I'm willing to instruct on, boys. Why would I want others to win like I do?
If you want to win like I do you might need to put in the hours and put up your own money the way the original wager has always been. If you need me to bankroll you you don't belong at any casino, let alone at MDawg's casino.

[coach belly]

I wanted extra help because I could only play one or two machines at a time, so I offered them a similar deal.

Since you quoted me, I'll reply.

You needed help on a machine play, because your action was physically limited, you couldn't play enough machines to bet as much as you wanted to.

That doesn't apply here. MDawg doesn't need help to bet more, he can just bet more on his own spot, and collect 100% of the winnings for the same risk that you are offering 50% on.

[Keystone]

Andrew they say you are the sock puppet of some other forum member, why doesn't that forum member just ask me himself?

Okay I had time to read Axel's post. While just shy of coherence , I was able to gather the meaning.

I have had friends who are in town when I'm there come and play with me. They've brought small amounts of money and I've directed them to place money on top of mine during certain bets. I actually wrote about this at WOV I think it was, on the penultimate trip, where the house started objecting to that one friend's bets were too small and asked him to bet at least $25. each time. (Which, they could have insisted on $100. since the pit boss at the time mentioned that my friend's bankroll was independent of mine and should therefore be subject to the table black chip minimum, but out of respect for me, they let him slide with just $25. a pop.) Anyway, on each occasion (except for one I mention below where the guy came grossly undercapitalized and lost $10.) the friend has won, until he's doubled his money, and then I have suggested that he stop.

I don't like to do this for friends, as I end up worrying about their bankroll more than my own. And the first time a friend came to do this he came with a measly $50., somehow managed to end up ten down, and I just tossed him ten bucks when I colored up.

I have also guided that girl I met in Vegas towards winning a few grand each time she played with me, but in neither those occasions with her, nor in any occasion where friends showed up with a few hundred bucks, has any one of them followed my exact bets dollar for dollar.

In any case, what I think Axel is proposing is no different from my handing him money to gamble and asking him to give me back my money at the end of the session, minus whatever he won or lost for the session. Is that what he wants me to do? because if so, Could you repeat it? 'Cause I can't believe my fucking ears.

Mr Dawg, these movie pictures and your captions are pure gold...please keep them coming..LOL