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  1. #521
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    Meanwhile in Oregon things are surging and it's all shut down.

    You'll soon follow:betcha.

    It ain't over til the fat lady takes off her mask.
    What, Me Worry?

  2. #522
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Meanwhile in Oregon things are surging and it's all shut down.

    You'll soon follow:betcha.

    It ain't over til the fat lady takes off her mask.
    Trust me, Hillary ain't masked. And you clearly believe the government stats. Odd.

  3. #523
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Meanwhile in Oregon things are surging and it's all shut down.

    You'll soon follow:betcha.

    It ain't over til the fat lady takes off her mask.
    Trust me, Hillary ain't masked. And you clearly believe the government stats. Odd.

  4. #524
    The 7-day moving average for COVID-19 deaths is down to 635. Besides the last few days, this is the lowest since June 27th of last year. WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!?! If we break under 600 it'll be the lowest since April 1st 2020. Basically when the pandemic began!

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    Alright, let's assume you're right about there being a government conspiracy.

    What exactly do think their aim is in doing it?

    Really, what would they have to gain by needlessly panicking people?
    What, Me Worry?

  6. #526
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Alright, let's assume you're right about there being a government conspiracy.

    What exactly do think their aim is in doing it?

    Really, what would they have to gain by needlessly panicking people?
    The 7-day moving average for COVID-19 deaths is down to 635. Besides the last few days, this is the lowest since June 27th of last year. WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!?! If we break under 600 it'll be the lowest since April 1st 2020. Basically when the pandemic began!

  7. #527
    Not all the information or the whole story but a decent place to start.
    Frontline PBS is pretty good too and they come at it from the Wet Market Angle.
    The point is that China has covered this shit up before with SARS and who knows what else.
    You have constantly been lied to since day 1 and are continually being lied to.
    Fauci lies to you idiots and you eat it all up.
    "The Public doesn't need masks"
    "The Public is now 50% asymptomatic and needs masks"
    "Wear Two Masks is better"
    "Even after we vaccinate we need to wear masks"

    It's like you all forgot that the WHO said this:
    Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #ChinaFlag of China.

    Anyways... Whatever... believe what you want.
    Long Live Big Brother!

    1st Video Under Investigation 43 minutes
    2nd Video 60 Minutes Australia 14 minutes
    3rd Video PBS Frontline 1 hour 24 minutes






  8. #528
    The virus is real. There are a lot of Indian and Italian people who would be telling us otherwise, but they're dead. This spending isn't doing us any good, that's a fact I cam agree with. China is a fucked up country full of dickwads, that's for sure and we're idiots as a worldwide citizenry letting them have control.

  9. #529
    You can get vaccinated but you can never get unvaccinated!

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    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    You can get vaccinated but you can never get unvaccinated!
    Why on earth would you consider getting unvaccinated?

    By report it is reasonably safe; oh sure there are a few outlying anomalies but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

    If your argument against getting vaccinated is "I don't like the gov't telling me what to do:" stop paying your income taxes; drive recklessly without a valid license; commit crimes: see how far that line of thought gets you.

    Sometimes the selfish desires of the individual must be sublimated for the good of us all.
    What, Me Worry?

  11. #531
    V,

    I'm certainly no anti-vaxxer, but one should consider nuances when talking about the vaccines. For example,

    1) We have no current efficacy rating for the vaccines vis-a-vis the Delta variant. It's primarily speculation. Efficacy percentages were (originally) assigned based on ratios in double blind trials. That was for the initial incarnation. And those ratings technically only hold for the time period defined by the trials. In other words, efficacy could conceivably, although not likely, fall off a cliff a few weeks beyond the duration of the double blind trials that were the rationale for the efficacy ratings.

    2) If you'll note, you're not hearing from virologists much or from evolutionary biologists much in terms of who the government is putting front and center. You're hearing from public health officials in more or less scripted settings where the press doesn't get to ask questions. There are likely reasons for this. First off, something you're not hearing much in the US, is that it's generally not a great idea to apply vaccines that all feature attacks on the same viral mechanisms during a pandemic. It supercharges the virus' evolution to deal with the vaccines.

    3) One manufacturer wants a third shot as a booster. Government health says no. Now sort through the motives of both to figure out the whys. What isn't being put front and center is that side effects from the third shot are likely worse than side effects from the second, which is daunting. It's also possible the side effects reality is much, much worse than the US reports. The only folks who will have a real handle on it will be the Scandinavian countries, whose socialized medicine is tracking side effects in a formal, organized way once every person is vaccinated. The US is relying on self reporting and physician reporting, and therefore only immediate, severe cases wind up in the US data, and only a fraction of those. One problem is that once people commit to vaccines, there is no psychological motive to say "I messed up" by either patient or physician. I'm sure you see the legal angles to this.

    4) While vaccines undeniably cut down dramatically on hospitalization and deaths from Covid, it's a mystery as to whether long haul Covid is much reduced. It may not be. And if people are looser in their behavior because they are vaccinated, they are more likely to wind up with long haul Covid.

    And finally, expanding on the last point, most important (other than vaccines during a pandemic driving virus evolution),

    5) Social variables never get factored into any of the mixes you see discussed by the US government or the media. In other words, if the Delta variant is immensely more contagious, then any kind of social interaction is likely to fuel disease. Getting vaccinated does not preclude getting the disease or spreading the disease. It's undeniable that people who are vaccinated go out into the culture and spread disease because THEIR BEHAVIOR CHANGES BECAUSE THEY ARE VACCINATED. These behavioral changes in the vaccinated as a major causal factor in the spread of the Delta variant do not get discussed publicly. It's an obvious question any demographer, medical anthropologist, or sociologist would ask, but it never gets discussed.

    What I'm saying is what we are being fed across the board is the Disney version of things. There are many, many nuances to this.

    If you'll notice, nobody brings up the question of, "If the Delta variant can do this, what will the next variant and the one after that be like, and will current vaccines have much effect?"

    When obvious questions aren't front and center, there are generally reasons they aren't front and center. And the answers are usually ominous.

  12. #532
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    You can get vaccinated but you can never get unvaccinated!
    Why on earth would you consider getting unvaccinated?

    By report it is reasonably safe; oh sure there are a few outlying anomalies but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

    If your argument against getting vaccinated is "I don't like the gov't telling me what to do:" stop paying your income taxes; drive recklessly without a valid license; commit crimes: see how far that line of thought gets you.

    Sometimes the selfish desires of the individual must be sublimated for the good of us all.
    I am glad you feel protected from covid with the vax. Why try to force it on people that don't want it? What is selfish about choosing to not accept an unapproved untested potentially dangerous substance into your body. Your logic on this is a broken egg.

  13. #533
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    When obvious questions aren't front and center, there are generally reasons they aren't front and center. And the answers are usually ominous.
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  14. #534
    And here comes the ominous, on cue:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...1F08C5E04F681F

    Lambda and other variants are undoubtedly in the US but haven't yet reached significant numbers. Anything short of shutting down will spread these variants. The unvaccinated will spread them. The vaccinated will spread them. If the vaccinated loosen their behaviors and engage in riskier "normal" behaviors, the debate becomes which population, the vaccinated or unvaccinated, is spreading the variants to what degree.

  15. #535
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    And here comes the ominous, on cue:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...1F08C5E04F681F

    Lambda and other variants are undoubtedly in the US but haven't yet reached significant numbers. Anything short of shutting down will spread these variants. The unvaccinated will spread them. The vaccinated will spread them. If the vaccinated loosen their behaviors and engage in riskier "normal" behaviors, the debate becomes which population, the vaccinated or unvaccinated, is spreading the variants to what degree.
    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
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  16. #536
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    And here comes the ominous, on cue:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...1F08C5E04F681F

    Lambda and other variants are undoubtedly in the US but haven't yet reached significant numbers. Anything short of shutting down will spread these variants. The unvaccinated will spread them. The vaccinated will spread them. If the vaccinated loosen their behaviors and engage in riskier "normal" behaviors, the debate becomes which population, the vaccinated or unvaccinated, is spreading the variants to what degree.
    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
    This was mickey's refrain during the original wave. Good to know that 600,000 American dead wasn't the sky falling. Some people are optimists, I guess.

    Anyway, the latest out of Israel is that Pfizer two-doses provide about 35% efficacy against getting the Delta variant. So that's not very good. Israel was ahead of the curve getting everyone vaccinated, so they'll be first in line when efficacy wanes. The good news is that the Pfizer provides about 90% efficacy against very severe forms of the illness. So you get sick, you transmit the virus, you can get long Covid, but you're much less likely to die if vaccinated versus the Delta variant.

    Next up is the Lambda variant, which showed up in Houston last week. Lamda is allegedly more vaccine resistant than previous varieties.

  17. #537
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    And here comes the ominous, on cue:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...1F08C5E04F681F

    Lambda and other variants are undoubtedly in the US but haven't yet reached significant numbers. Anything short of shutting down will spread these variants. The unvaccinated will spread them. The vaccinated will spread them. If the vaccinated loosen their behaviors and engage in riskier "normal" behaviors, the debate becomes which population, the vaccinated or unvaccinated, is spreading the variants to what degree.
    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
    This was mickey's refrain during the original wave. Good to know that 600,000 American dead wasn't the sky falling. Some people are optimists, I guess.

    Anyway, the latest out of Israel is that Pfizer two-doses provide about 35% efficacy against getting the Delta variant. So that's not very good. Israel was ahead of the curve getting everyone vaccinated, so they'll be first in line when efficacy wanes. The good news is that the Pfizer provides about 90% efficacy against very severe forms of the illness. So you get sick, you transmit the virus, you can get long Covid, but you're much less likely to die if vaccinated versus the Delta variant.

    Next up is the Lambda variant, which showed up in Houston last week. Lamda is allegedly more vaccine resistant than previous varieties.
    Of course the "vaccines" have nothing to do with perpetuating the variants.
    Last edited by MaxPen; 07-24-2021 at 01:15 PM.

  18. #538
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
    This was mickey's refrain during the original wave. Good to know that 600,000 American dead wasn't the sky falling. Some people are optimists, I guess.

    Anyway, the latest out of Israel is that Pfizer two-doses provide about 35% efficacy against getting the Delta variant. So that's not very good. Israel was ahead of the curve getting everyone vaccinated, so they'll be first in line when efficacy wanes. The good news is that the Pfizer provides about 90% efficacy against very severe forms of the illness. So you get sick, you transmit the virus, you can get long Covid, but you're much less likely to die if vaccinated versus the Delta variant.

    Next up is the Lambda variant, which showed up in Houston last week. Lamda is allegedly more vaccine resistant than previous varieties.
    Of course the "vaccines" have nothing to do with perpetuating the variants.

    I'll get into that on my blog. I think I mentioned here you don't see evolutionary biologists on the evening news. The argument being publicly made by US public health authorities is that the unvaccinated drive the creation of variants. That's true enough, but it's also true that using vaccines that all target the same thing during a pandemic supercharges variants that specifically evade the vaccines.

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  20. #540
    Not to worry, Ivermectin will continue to remain out of the US MSM narrative as a way to effectively and inexpensively combat the virus and all of its vaccine-induced variants.
    Last edited by tableplay; 07-25-2021 at 08:34 AM.

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