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  1. #21
    With the caronavirus scare now wide open now is the time to take those Vegas Vacations....or vacations to anywhere. Cheap flights, no lines, no kids, free upgrades. And the chance to get the corona virus at 150 million to 1. You'll hit Megabucks three times before you get CV.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #22
    The coronavirus scam might doom the El Dorado/Caesar's deal:

    https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...Rpzplspf8B9KE-
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Redietz wrote:

    "So the theory here is that it's a media event originating in China, shutting down Italy itself (because, from posts here, we know that Italians are a particularly strange bunch), and it's all an illusion?

    Good luck with that.

    The optimistic federal rhetoric did not match the actions all along. I figured this would be bad, get worse, and blow up, because God knows, "self-quarantining" is an oxymoron when it comes to Americans.

    Viruses generally get "less lethal" as they mutate, so the longer one puts off getting this, the more likely it is that you get a survivable strain. There are multiple strains. The Italians appear to have some virulent ones.

    Death rates in the US will be interesting, as the relatively low population densities should slow the spread somewhat, and we figure to get some of the later, less lethal strains. However, obesity is going to be an issue, as are high blood pressure and diabetes.

    "The media," whatever that is, is getting its cues from science. Science knows what's coming. Italy is not 300,000 miles on the other side of Jupiter."



    Redietz, tell us the truth are you hoping for the coronavirus to be contracted by millions of people in the US in hope that Biden then wins the election against Trump?

    Redietz wrote:

    "Mickey, I only bothered to post this because it was you, and I want you to take pristine care of yourself. Most of the lethality issues are with men in our age group with underlying issues, although Italy's young men appear to be taking a beating when they get their version. A service economy figured to get clobbered by this, and I think people underestimate the percent of global spending attributable to "tourism." If tourism tanks, the economy tanks.

    Just take care of yourself. On metal, the virus lasts a couple of hours. It's lasted up to nine days on other surfaces."


    Redietz, if mickey and the rest us members all get bedridden and confined to our homes, I suppose during the interim period that you expect us all to read your new blog.
    That's my take on things. The American media is fueling the corona virus scare to drive the country into a recession and give the dems a chance to win the election.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #24
    It's very disappointing to read you guy turning everything into politics with your out to get Trump or whomever conspiracy theories. Coronovirus is not a conspiracy theory. Nor is it the common "flu". Throughout history there have been these types of viruses and pandemics that have wiped out hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Currently the mortality rate for this coronavirus is just about 3% and that is about 10 times higher than the flu, which causes tens of thousands of deaths in the US every year. At that rate if this thing continues to spread, it could cause millions of deaths in the US.

    I happen to think that 3% number is probably too high because only limited people have been tested due to test shortages. So only the really sick were tested and it looks like roughly 3% of them have died. There probably have been many, many more people here in the US and throughout the world that contracted the virus, had relatively minor symptoms, like the flu or a cold, and survived with relatively no treatment. And if that is the case, then that 3% number would be much lower, maybe much, much lower to a half percent or so, similar to the regular flu. That would be great. Best case scenario. But, presently no one knows for sure, least of all, you nitwits voicing your conspiracy theories.

    For me personally, being a professional player living in Vegas, presents some risks. Las Vegas is a place that people travel to from all over the world, including areas that have been hit hard. Even before this coronavirus scare, casinos are a breeding ground for germs. Casino chips and currency are absolutely filthy and easily carry germs. I myself am not much of a gambler. I play to a very, very conservative Risk of Ruin, zero for all practical purposes. So I am surely not about to take a bigger risk with my health. I have chosen to shut down my casino play and that includes my daily meals at casinos, until we know more. Because that's the thing we don't know. None of you geniuses knows what will happen. Maybe it will all be over in a couple weeks, OR maybe it will be 1918 all over again, that killed millions of Americans. I am hoping that science has progressed to that we can't have a 1918 again, but nobody knows for sure. And one of the benefits of my profession is that I can set my own hours and work when I want, so I am just going to take some time off, and spend little to no time in casinos, or sporting events or concerts or large crowds and see what happens.

    That's just me. You guys feel free to go on, gamble with your life, some of you are degenerate gamblers anyway, so no real surprise. And continue on with your conspiracy theories....everyone is out to get Trump and everything that happens is a conspiracy to get Trump.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    I don’t really think this belongs in the Las Vegas subsection :/

    I am surprised Midwest Player hasn’t stopped in to tell us it’s trumps fault.
    First, let me say this is "not just the flu." It is actually 10 times more deadly than the common flu, and if you are over 80, it is probably a death sentence.

    Of course, the coronavirus is not Trump's fault. However, it is Trump's fault we were not ready for it. Not enough testing kits available, and refusal to test folks even though their doctors were pleading with the CDC to have them tested. Trump wanting to keep everybody on the cruise ship instead of getting them to a hospital where they belong. I'm surprised so many here still have their heads stuck up their ass.

    The stock market "dead cat bounce" last week was a good chance to sell. I actually went from 33% stable value fund in my 401(k) to 45% and if the market is up again tomorrow I'm going to move more out of stocks.

    I have an upcoming comped flight to Laughlin in the near future. I'm thinking about cancelling it even though I feel Laughlin will be a much safer destination than Vegas.

    Finally just to show what an idiot Trump is, he now wants a payroll tax cut. What this country needs in this situation is paid sick leave for folks that don't have it. Believe me, a lot of companies don't offer it.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 03-10-2020 at 09:36 PM.

  6. #26
    I am friends with many nurses and they all agree that that the coronavirus is no different than the flu. What they could not answer is that this new virus has no antidote or cure. This is a real problem that can be avoided by simple measures.

    I am not a fan of closing venues where numerous individuals conglomerate. After a long season of helping the HS girls freshmen/varsity girls hoops, it was finally time to get a weekend away. The plan was a college hockey weekend of Rensselaer vs Harvard games. Sadly, on Sunday afternoon, ESPN posted that the Indian Wells tennis tournament in CA (a major type event) was postponed and that the Rensselaer/Harvard games were on but would not accept fans. The reaction was on.

    As everyone knows, the IVY League Basketball Championships have been cancelled in both women/men and things will continue. The Cornell ECAC hockey quarterfinals are also in a no fan mode.

    No politician should inherit 9/11, a war. or a disease. But they should acknowledge it early. It is not a sign of weakness. Address the cracks that have occurred and move on. Like a coach, observe the horizon and strategize accordingly.

    You guys know that I am not political, but simple things can move things forward for this administration. But please, this virus is not a hoax.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Multi-thousands of Americans die from the common flu every year. Why no stock market drop? Why no quarantines? Why no banning of crowds? Why do so many people not get flu shots every year. How many of you got a flu shot this year?

    There are 12K deaths from the common flu so far this season. There are 27 dead from coronavirus. It's just a media event meant to scare the hell out of people and tank the economy.

    THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
    If I had remembered options existed, I would have leveraged the fuck out of a 5 figure bet by shorting the general market. I never touch the general stock market, so best I could figure is the 2x leverage ETFs.

    Just to show in what should be obvious as to how wrong you are - Read this. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...onavirus-tests

    Now look at how many people died from corona in that *1* facility.

    You think the flu is really anything like this? Where do you get such nonsense.

    19 people died in the first nursing home. 19 people. When does the flu do THAT? Lol. It ain't fake news bud.

  8. #28
    I am not worried about myself, but my parents are near 70. Lucky they're fairly healthy for their age. However people with lung issues or weak cardio stuff are going to have a really hard go of it. This stuff has sorta been mapped out though. Thats the problem - when too many old people get it at once. Where are all the beds and ventilators and such. The answer is they don't exist. Fuck you won't even want to go into the hospital because you'd likely catch this thing.

    It may very well die off when warm weather comes about. That isn't a given. Seems in a month or so we could maybe have a better idea. If it never appears in the warmer climates then we'll likely be ok. If for some reason this stuff is resistant to hotter climates, things are going to get really really nasty IMO. The US has a few things going for it - not so much mass transit. However, paid sick time is a LOL liberal concept and such. The gig economy. The fact that paying for medical care would cost you a fortune, so if you are younger you just toughen it out and likely spread it. The incentives and laws are not there to contain it in the US.

    Oh yea and testing. For LOLZ look at how much testing is done in the US vs other countries. Oh man, don't want socialized medical care. You know.. free market fixes everything. yep! Just go google how many corona tests we have had in the US vs other countries. Incredibly pathetic.

  9. #29
    Not to be naive but I honestly think that China, the WHOLE Country should have been quarantined a long time ago. No travels to China nor out of China. It should have been kind of like The Simpsons Movie where Springfield was put under a Dome and no one could get out of Springfield nor get into it. I brought this up to other people and the Conversation went to the fact that quarantining China would mean people who were only meant to be away from their kids for a quick couple of days and then come back wouldn't be able to see their kids anymore since the parent( or parents) would basically be imprisoned in another Country that is Continents away. Well, I think it's better to make sure the kids are safe from the CV rather than travel back to them and inadvertently get them infected with the CV.
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  10. #30
    Per the usual the nitwit alarmists are crying the sky is falling. Just seen the Surgeon General say the average age of those that have died is 80 and the mortality rate is somewhere between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #31
    Nitwit. Over 1000 Americans died before Obama declared an emergency over H1N1.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Per the usual the nitwit alarmists are crying the sky is falling. Just seen the Surgeon General say the average age of those that have died is 80 and the mortality rate is somewhere between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000.
    Why do I give you credit for intelligence. Amazing.

    The very first nursing home where this thing was allowed to run its course, 19 people died. Numbers don't matter to you if they don't come from a machine?

    I honestly just ASSUMED you'd be "good enough with numbers" to figure out this isn't bullshit.

    I never said the sky is falling. I'd much much rather my parents get this during a time when our medical system won't be overloaded. The world will go on just fine in the long-term. Go read about Italy and see what they're dealing with. Be lucky people in the medical system are willing to put up with the shit because older people are going to need it.

    Bringing up Obama? What are you talking about ? h1n1? You literally can't even think for yourself. That is irrelevant to anything discussed, but your master tells you how to think and you follow along on your knees with pride. Good work. Even if Trump did a decent job managing this (he won't - lol @ tax cuts as the solution) we'd still be in the same boat.

    It is amazing how much Trump has politicized what are issues of science because they're all literally so fucking dumb. Climate change - hoax. Corona virus - hoax. WTF sub-humans.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 03-11-2020 at 06:33 AM.

  13. #33
    It’s going to be another rough day in the market to start. I own American Airlines and Boeing stock and have been getting killed. I bought more of both last week and it was too soon. I feel confident in both these companies long term but the reality is travel stocks and companies with huge presence in China are going to lose earnings that will take years to recover.

    I’m in the it’s an overreaction category but the damage already done to the economy is real. That said airlines like American are offering incredible deals with mileage. As rates haven’t drop as much, it is one of the few times where you may be better off buying miles if you don’t have them, compared to just booking with cash.

    As always do the math and check it out. Here is a good site for updated AP travel information if you can get past the constant shilling for the Credit Cards that pay them.

    https://thepointsguy.com/

    I say travel, enjoy life and stimulate the economy while saving some bucks.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Per the usual the nitwit alarmists are crying the sky is falling. Just seen the Surgeon General say the average age of those that have died is 80 and the mortality rate is somewhere between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000.
    Why do I give you credit for intelligence. Amazing.

    The very first nursing home where this thing was allowed to run its course, 19 people died. Lol. Numbers don't matter to you if they don't come from a machine?

    I honestly just ASSUMED you'd be "good enough with numbers" to figure out this isn't bullshit.

    I never said the sky is falling. I'd much much rather my parents get this during a time when our medical system won't be overloaded. The world will go on just fine in the long-term. Go read about Italy and see what they're dealing with. Be lucky people in the medical system are willing to put up with the shit because older people are going to need it.

    Bringing up Obama? What are you talking about ? h1n1? You literally can't even think for yourself. That is irrelevant to anything discussed, but your master tells you how to think and you follow along on your knees with pride. Good work. Even if Trump did a decent job managing this (he won't - lol @ tax cuts as the solution) we'd still be in the same boat.

    It is amazing how much Trump has politicized what are issues of science because they're all literally so fucking dumb. Climate change - hoax. Corona virus - hoax. WTF sub-humans.
    Bitter over the old Commie getting his ass handed to him AGAIN? Looks like the dream of free everything is gone for good. It’s OK, plenty of opportunities out there for those who are willing to work hard and make tough life choices.

  15. #35
    Yea, on 2/12 I sent out txts to a friend I know who loves to trade the traditional stock market. For some reason options weren't brought up and we discussed ETFs. I'm not a stock trader, so I am not that familiar with what all is available. Options would have worked but I believe I need 25k to put in the account. I was willing to bet that much on options - I knew they existed but just thought of leverage in the traditional manner (2x-10x). I would have likely spread the dates out to 1,2,3 months or something. I was 100% wanting to do this, but I only thought there'd be 2x max leverage. I was literally too lazy for that return. Story of my life.

    Pretty much 100% opposite of your view, Mick !

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Per the usual the nitwit alarmists are crying the sky is falling. Just seen the Surgeon General say the average age of those that have died is 80 and the mortality rate is somewhere between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000.
    Why do I give you credit for intelligence. Amazing.

    The very first nursing home where this thing was allowed to run its course, 19 people died. Lol. Numbers don't matter to you if they don't come from a machine?

    I honestly just ASSUMED you'd be "good enough with numbers" to figure out this isn't bullshit.

    I never said the sky is falling. I'd much much rather my parents get this during a time when our medical system won't be overloaded. The world will go on just fine in the long-term. Go read about Italy and see what they're dealing with. Be lucky people in the medical system are willing to put up with the shit because older people are going to need it.

    Bringing up Obama? What are you talking about ? h1n1? You literally can't even think for yourself. That is irrelevant to anything discussed, but your master tells you how to think and you follow along on your knees with pride. Good work. Even if Trump did a decent job managing this (he won't - lol @ tax cuts as the solution) we'd still be in the same boat.

    It is amazing how much Trump has politicized what are issues of science because they're all literally so fucking dumb. Climate change - hoax. Corona virus - hoax. WTF sub-humans.
    Bitter over the old Commie getting his ass handed to him AGAIN? Looks like the dream of free everything is gone for good. It’s OK, plenty of opportunities out there for those who are willing to work hard and make tough life choices.
    lol. This has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I'm not the one bitter about any of this. I am quite accepting of what it all is. It is this purposeful stupidity I detest.

    "Dream of everything free". Lol.

    Bro, I'd be delighted being able to spend $500 out of pocket for a fucking corona-virus test. Literally - Happy as fuck to have such an option available. Tell me how much I have to pay and where! <crickets>

  17. #37
    accountinquestion wrote:

    "Bringing up Obama? What are you talking about ? h1n1? You literally can't even think for yourself."


    What mickey was talking about you idiot is that the left wing media gave Obama a free ride for eight years on everything he did wrong.
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-11-2020 at 07:06 AM.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Why do I give you credit for intelligence. Amazing.

    The very first nursing home where this thing was allowed to run its course, 19 people died. Lol. Numbers don't matter to you if they don't come from a machine?

    I honestly just ASSUMED you'd be "good enough with numbers" to figure out this isn't bullshit.

    I never said the sky is falling. I'd much much rather my parents get this during a time when our medical system won't be overloaded. The world will go on just fine in the long-term. Go read about Italy and see what they're dealing with. Be lucky people in the medical system are willing to put up with the shit because older people are going to need it.

    Bringing up Obama? What are you talking about ? h1n1? You literally can't even think for yourself. That is irrelevant to anything discussed, but your master tells you how to think and you follow along on your knees with pride. Good work. Even if Trump did a decent job managing this (he won't - lol @ tax cuts as the solution) we'd still be in the same boat.

    It is amazing how much Trump has politicized what are issues of science because they're all literally so fucking dumb. Climate change - hoax. Corona virus - hoax. WTF sub-humans.
    Bitter over the old Commie getting his ass handed to him AGAIN? Looks like the dream of free everything is gone for good. It’s OK, plenty of opportunities out there for those who are willing to work hard and make tough life choices.
    lol. This has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I'm not the one bitter about any of this. I am quite accepting of what it all is. It is this purposeful stupidity I detest.

    "Dream of everything free". Lol.

    Bro, I'd be delighted being able to spend $500 out of pocket for a fucking corona-virus test. Literally - Happy as fuck to have such an option available. Tell me how much I have to pay and where! <crickets>
    Why should you need a CV test? Do you also need a flu test? Every type of blood test for cancer? Hep? AIDS?

    Don’t know you but assuming by the “Bro” comment you are not a high risk group member, why should the money be wasted on a test for you or anyone else .

    Face it, you hate Trump and are enjoying the fake chaos this thing is creating. Guaranteed they will use it to keep Biden from debating Bernie and maybe even Trump in the fall.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    accountinquestion wrote:

    "Bringing up Obama? What are you talking about ? h1n1? You literally can't even think for yourself."


    What mickey was talking about you idiot is that the media gave Obama a free ride for eight years on everything he did wrong.
    So we're now having meta discussions about the media many years ago. Gotcha. Trump has literally been attacking the media before he started running. This victimhood you guys come up with is a bit laughable. Anyway.. I won't get pulled into that with you brainiacs. I'm just an idiot.

    I guess thats what this is about to Micky. Everyone else is like "Hey this is a real thing". To Micky this is all media manipulations out to get Trump. Okey dokey.

    Yanno, I was curious who all took the 'its a hoax' view of this. It was only Rob Singer for first page.

    I was going to actually post and point out to Micky (in an effort to straighten him out a bit) that the only person arguing his side is Rob Singer. (On a forum that has a decent amount of sharp people.) You however invalidated that observation... so maybe Micky is onto something.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    Bitter over the old Commie getting his ass handed to him AGAIN? Looks like the dream of free everything is gone for good. It’s OK, plenty of opportunities out there for those who are willing to work hard and make tough life choices.
    lol. This has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I'm not the one bitter about any of this. I am quite accepting of what it all is. It is this purposeful stupidity I detest.

    "Dream of everything free". Lol.

    Bro, I'd be delighted being able to spend $500 out of pocket for a fucking corona-virus test. Literally - Happy as fuck to have such an option available. Tell me how much I have to pay and where! <crickets>
    Why should you need a CV test? Do you also need a flu test? Every type of blood test for cancer? Hep? AIDS?

    Don’t know you but assuming by the “Bro” comment you are not a high risk group member, why should the money be wasted on a test for you or anyone else .

    Face it, you hate Trump and are enjoying the fake chaos this thing is creating. Guaranteed they will use it to keep Biden from debating Bernie and maybe even Trump in the fall.
    You can have debates without audiences. H-E-L-L-O. Anyone in there ?

    I want to have access to the test because it is the fucking free market and if I am sick, I want to know if I really need to avoid my parents. I want to know after I've had it and not have to wonder if it is just the flu or if I have gained a significant immunity to it. I want the test because I don't want to self-quarantine because I've come down with a cold. And so on and so on. I could bring up how all your analogies are shit but I need to actually tend to work.

    You whine about commies, then when pressed on it you don't even believe in the free market. I can 100% assure you after your comment on the test, that I am more for the free market than you are. I see things for what they are though. You see things as you're told to see them.

    Yes, I suppose I hate Trump. That isn't hard to admit. Do I come across as a guy who loves conmen? You got the wrong dude, bro.

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