The Coronavirus Scam

[mickeycrimm]

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[mickeycrimm]

I wouldn't say Trump was ignoring it. He tried his best to downplay it because he only see things in terms of the stock market. He is an incredibly shallow person. In depth of knowledge and the values he holds.

The problem Micke is I could pick this apart but you have shown you are not worth arguing with. You will just switch around your own personal rules of reality.

"secured top commitments". I mean what the fuck does a vapid statement like that even mean? He called up some CEOs and they said yessir, we have people on it? And thats just the last thing you posted.

For the most part anyone with the capacity/knowledge in this area will be moving their work to finding a vaccine for this.

If you are sharp, you will look at what actions Trump DOES and not what his mouth SAYS. Life ain't that hard.

Spoken like the mental midget you are. I shoved the hardcore evidence right in your face. Trump working on the coronavirus while dems work on impeachment. You think you are smart but you are an idiot. You can't pick nothing apart. All you got is smoke and mirrors. He banned the flights, moron. That's doing something.

What an idiot. If Obama muttered the exact same words as Trump you'd be sucking his dick and praising him for the great leader he is. Stupid.

Well if we are just arguing whether he did anything then we're not arguing. I'm saying he was incompetent in his approach and things he's said.

Jesus dude, I go look up the first thing and can't find anything from Jan 7th that Trump did.. Oh I see, I found it, the CDC did it, not Trump. THe CDC that Trump has tried to continually cut? (Maybe he had success. I don't remember details.) So now you get to hold that up as evidence that he "did something" while pointing out Pelosi is not doing anything? Wow what fucked up thinking that is.

I can pick out the 2nd item and we can investigate your 2nd item of what Trump did to actually mitigate/educate the effects that aren't directly tied to the stock-market, but I have a feeling I won't go very far. Your "hardcore" evidence fails the sniff test at the beginning, so why continue on? You just aren't worth it Mick. I agree, Trump "did things". We can agree on that.

You're cllutching at straws, moron. So Trump has no authority over CDC? That's how stupid you are. Yes, we can agree. Trump did things about coronavirus. The democrats did nothing about coronavirus. That was my whole point. It went right over your pea brained head. Hahahaha! Mental midgets everywhere are saying "accountinquestion is making us look bad." Now go back to sucking Obama dick.

[mickeycrimm]

Italy has been hit hard by the coronavirus. How has socialized medicine worked out for them? Their top health officials have recently suggested that age limits be put in place for healthcare and the elderly should no longer receive care. That's what Dems want for America.

[mcap]

Mickey YOU are on socialized healthcare. US just limits socialist healthcare to mostly older people. And there’s a decent possibility NYC looks like Italy in about three weeks (yeah yeah liberal city). Everyone but Singapore, South Korea, HK and Taiwan have bungled it pretty badly doesn’t really matter what sort of healthcare system or politics they have.

South Korea where pretty much everyone is getting tested about 30% of the positive cases have been in the 20-29 year old age group. Other countries where people feeling poorly getting tested that number is well below 10%. What age group was mostly in the packed bars yesterday?

[accountinquestion]

Spoken like the mental midget you are. I shoved the hardcore evidence right in your face. Trump working on the coronavirus while dems work on impeachment. You think you are smart but you are an idiot. You can't pick nothing apart. All you got is smoke and mirrors. He banned the flights, moron. That's doing something.

What an idiot. If Obama muttered the exact same words as Trump you'd be sucking his dick and praising him for the great leader he is. Stupid.

Well if we are just arguing whether he did anything then we're not arguing. I'm saying he was incompetent in his approach and things he's said.

Jesus dude, I go look up the first thing and can't find anything from Jan 7th that Trump did.. Oh I see, I found it, the CDC did it, not Trump. THe CDC that Trump has tried to continually cut? (Maybe he had success. I don't remember details.) So now you get to hold that up as evidence that he "did something" while pointing out Pelosi is not doing anything? Wow what fucked up thinking that is.

I can pick out the 2nd item and we can investigate your 2nd item of what Trump did to actually mitigate/educate the effects that aren't directly tied to the stock-market, but I have a feeling I won't go very far. Your "hardcore" evidence fails the sniff test at the beginning, so why continue on? You just aren't worth it Mick. I agree, Trump "did things". We can agree on that.

You're cllutching at straws, moron. So Trump has no authority over CDC? That's how stupid you are. Yes, we can agree. Trump did things about coronavirus. The democrats did nothing about coronavirus. That was my whole point. It went right over your pea brained head. Hahahaha! Mental midgets everywhere are saying "accountinquestion is making us look bad." Now go back to sucking Obama dick.

I'm pretty sure what the CDC did on Jan is SOP. The President had nothing to do with it and the facts seem to suggest he tried his hardest to grossly limit or remove the CDC. As if infectious diseases aren't a real thing.

I'm pretty sure Trump pushed back on testing because he knew that if we reported numbers over this "flu" it'd be a Democratic scare tactic. Some shit like that. I am not bothering to look up facts anymore with you guys though. It is too pathetic of a return for the time investment.

The guy promised to burn it all down. Promise Given. Promise Kept.

Not sure why you're pulling the 'im a lil snowflake' card on me? You're bit soft in some weird way.

The childish name-calling and so forth is lol over the top ol feller. I haven't read your posts long enough to know if you are legit losing it, or if this is your sense of humor. lol. Anyway, take care Mick.

Everyone else - Funny thing is I don't even know if I've ever even mentioned Obama on this board, yet the pure rightwinger nutters love to go into their suppressed homo fantasies. Yanno.. I never really cared much one way or another about Obama. He was too standard Democrat for me. Yet, somehow I want to suck this duck. This coming from a man who is in complete childlike wonderment of our current loser conman president who has likely never had much of a personal relationship his whole adult life.

Pro-tip:
If you want to learn what "social distancing" is.. Go talk to Melania

[accountinquestion]

Italy has been hit hard by the coronavirus. How has socialized medicine worked out for them? Their top health officials have recently suggested that age limits be put in place for healthcare and the elderly should no longer receive care. That's what Dems want for America.

It is another total complete fail in reasoning to think that the free market is going to have a stockpile of nurses and ventilators for a 1 in 100 year event. People complain about the costs NOW.. lol.

This all comes about because people have it pounded in their head by the monied class that anything but free market is fail. Unfortunately, free market solutions fail in a big way in how they 1) destroy environment by not having to realize the true cost 2) completely and totally fail to bring about the superior solutions in many areas.

[mickeycrimm]

Italy has been hit hard by the coronavirus. How has socialized medicine worked out for them? Their top health officials have recently suggested that age limits be put in place for healthcare and the elderly should no longer receive care. That's what Dems want for America.

It is another total complete fail in reasoning to think that the free market is going to have a stockpile of nurses and ventilators for a 1 in 100 year event. People complain about the costs NOW.. lol.

This all comes about because people have it pounded in their head by the monied class that anything but free market is fail. Unfortunately, free market solutions fail in a big way in how they 1) destroy environment by not having to realize the true cost 2) completely and totally fail to bring about the superior solutions in many areas.

Oh, Jesus Christ. You are such a fail. So capitalism doesn't bring about superior solutions. GTFO. Socialism insures a solution is never found. Because no one has the incentive to find solutions. Was there a run this weekend on toilet paper at your local Walmart? Guess what. They've been out of toilet paper for years in Venezuela. Their back to using corn cobs. All those poor people down there were screaming "We want Chavez." Well, they got him. Now they are all starving to death. At least they were eating before.

Yeah, sure, our country is about 50/50 on private/socialized medicine. Watch what happens when it goes fully socialized. No more doctors and nurses. Big time shortage. They all complain now about not making any money on medicare/medicaid patients. Wait until everyone is on medicare/medicaid.

And this is not a 100 year event. These kind of viruses seem to pop up about every 10 years.

And please, stop with your strawman arguments.

[mickeycrimm]

Well if we are just arguing whether he did anything then we're not arguing. I'm saying he was incompetent in his approach and things he's said.

Jesus dude, I go look up the first thing and can't find anything from Jan 7th that Trump did.. Oh I see, I found it, the CDC did it, not Trump. THe CDC that Trump has tried to continually cut? (Maybe he had success. I don't remember details.) So now you get to hold that up as evidence that he "did something" while pointing out Pelosi is not doing anything? Wow what fucked up thinking that is.

I can pick out the 2nd item and we can investigate your 2nd item of what Trump did to actually mitigate/educate the effects that aren't directly tied to the stock-market, but I have a feeling I won't go very far. Your "hardcore" evidence fails the sniff test at the beginning, so why continue on? You just aren't worth it Mick. I agree, Trump "did things". We can agree on that.

You're cllutching at straws, moron. So Trump has no authority over CDC? That's how stupid you are. Yes, we can agree. Trump did things about coronavirus. The democrats did nothing about coronavirus. That was my whole point. It went right over your pea brained head. Hahahaha! Mental midgets everywhere are saying "accountinquestion is making us look bad." Now go back to sucking Obama dick.

I'm pretty sure what the CDC did on Jan is SOP. The President had nothing to do with it and the facts seem to suggest he tried his hardest to grossly limit or remove the CDC. As if infectious diseases aren't a real thing.

I'm pretty sure Trump pushed back on testing because he knew that if we reported numbers over this "flu" it'd be a Democratic scare tactic. Some shit like that. I am not bothering to look up facts anymore with you guys though. It is too pathetic of a return for the time investment.

The guy promised to burn it all down. Promise Given. Promise Kept.

Not sure why you're pulling the 'im a lil snowflake' card on me? You're bit soft in some weird way.

The childish name-calling and so forth is lol over the top ol feller. I haven't read your posts long enough to know if you are legit losing it, or if this is your sense of humor. lol. Anyway, take care Mick.

Everyone else - Funny thing is I don't even know if I've ever even mentioned Obama on this board, yet the pure rightwinger nutters love to go into their suppressed homo fantasies. Yanno.. I never really cared much one way or another about Obama. He was too standard Democrat for me. Yet, somehow I want to suck this duck. This coming from a man who is in complete childlike wonderment of our current loser conman president who has likely never had much of a personal relationship his whole adult life.

Pro-tip:
If you want to learn what "social distancing" is.. Go talk to Melania

When you first appeared here I had nothing against you. But you started childishly calling me names and insulting my intelligence. SO FUCK OFF AND DIE, BITCH. Do you think you are the only one that can do that? Damn, you're dimwitted. I guess you haven't been around here long enough to know my policy. A lot of the long timers here do. If you hit me with the insults be prepared to get hit 4 times as hard by me. And I don't back off, bitch. You asked for it. You got it. Now go back to sucking Obama's cock.

[accountinquestion]

When you first appeared here I had nothing against you. But you started childishly calling me names and insulting my intelligence. SO FUCK OFF AND DIE, BITCH. Do you think you are the only one that can do that? Damn, you're dimwitted. I guess you haven't been around here long enough to know my policy. A lot of the long timers here do. If you hit me with the insults be prepared to get hit 4 times as hard by me. And I don't back off, bitch. You asked for it. You got it. Now go back to sucking Obama's cock.

You had nothing against me until I displayed my lack of respect for the President whom is your idol.

I can have civil conversations all day long. I have no patience for stupidity. Zero. It is ok though if you hate me, knowing about machines isn't like some big deal. I don't have enough time to pursue vulturing that much as it is. I just find picking them apart mathematically quite enjoyable and thats a rare thing for me. The work is too much for me. It is a fun world to dabble in.

lolol at coming at me 4x harder. That might be possible if I was to actually take you seriously but that has just sorta went away. Sorry. Anyway, carry on with your life and try not to be so full of hate. At least I hate Trump and give reasons. You hate a large swath of the country for not even a good reason.(while claiming to be moderte - why? because you like socialized healthcare when you're on the receiving end???) Give me a break and take it easy.

[wasilla]

Trump never said the virus is a democratic hoax. Democrats said that Trump said the virus was a democratic hoax. It’s all bullshit based in Democrat’s ability to twist words and meanings to take someone out of context. Dems are the filthiest of liars with awesome ability and nerve to connive. The truth doesn’t matter to Dems. Only power and they will lie like hell to get it.

So Trump supporters believed that the virus was a hoax because Democrats told them that Trump said it was? This is absolutely goofy. This isn't the 1800's Mickey. When someone says something in a rally, not only did he say it, but we can watch him saying it. Check out his Charleston SC rally from a couple of weeks ago. It was widely reported on and the tape was widely shown. At least a close paraphrase, if not a direct quote is: The Democrats are politicizing the Coronavirus, it is their new hoax.

I guess that the division of labor when we talk about anything even remotely political (and this topic shouldn't be) is that you postulate lies and misinformation and I respectfully and factually respond. You call my facts lies and tell new lies. Rinse and repeat. What fun for me. Hard to believe this forum doesn't have more posters. Singer on Mickey.

Trump also banned flights from China in January, nitwit. Does that tell you he didn't take the virus seriously? If it doesn't you're an idiot. Come to think of it, you're an idiot anyway. Trump declared a national emergency with 40 americans dead. Obama waited until 1100 were dead. Where was the main stream media then? I'll tell you where they were, they were up Obama's ass.

Now, if your ignorant ass is going to quote someone then put the exact quote up. You got that, bitch? The exact quote. Don't come with bullshit. Find the exact quote where Trump said the carona virus was a hoax and put it up, nitwit. You can't do it. Because you're a piece of shit lie.

I have a confession to make. From early January until I got home from Vegas, I had been traveling a lot and had only spent a couple weeks at home. I had consumed a lot less news than usual. One of the things that I missed completely was the explanation that Trump was referring to politicizing when he said it was their new hoax. When Mickey claimed that Trump didn't call the Coronavirus a Democratic hoax, I thought he was shamelessly lying about something that was beyond dispute. I looked up the SC rally to be sure. The site I got had to have been spliced together, because it condensed the words into back to back sentences while deleting close to a minute of what was said in between. So when I responded to Mickey, I mischaracterized Trump's statement as a sentence, which it was not. I also characterized it as only interpretable in the way I saw it, and that is not true. When I went back to get a link that Mickey requested, I discovered the fuller version. I still didn't see how that changed anything. Eventually, I got to a fact check site, that explained what I assume is Mickey's position. It made sense. I am puzzled as to why no one on this board, didn't just say that Trump meant the politicizing and you're missing a minute of the rally. What I did was my fault. It just seems that some of you would have enjoyed supplementing the name calling with something more substantial.

I apologize to any one I mislead. I apologize particularly to you Mickey for inappropriately and rudely dismissing your protests as a lie. You had previously mentioned context as important and I should have looked for the context before I responded to you. I shouldn't have been as rude regardless.

[mickeycrimm]

When you first appeared here I had nothing against you. But you started childishly calling me names and insulting my intelligence. SO FUCK OFF AND DIE, BITCH. Do you think you are the only one that can do that? Damn, you're dimwitted. I guess you haven't been around here long enough to know my policy. A lot of the long timers here do. If you hit me with the insults be prepared to get hit 4 times as hard by me. And I don't back off, bitch. You asked for it. You got it. Now go back to sucking Obama's cock.

You had nothing against me until I displayed my lack of respect for the President whom is your idol.

I can have civil conversations all day long. I have no patience for stupidity. Zero. It is ok though if you hate me, knowing about machines isn't like some big deal. I don't have enough time to pursue vulturing that much as it is. I just find picking them apart mathematically quite enjoyable and thats a rare thing for me. The work is too much for me. It is a fun world to dabble in.

lolol at coming at me 4x harder. That might be possible if I was to actually take you seriously but that has just sorta went away. Sorry. Anyway, carry on with your life and try not to be so full of hate. At least I hate Trump and give reasons. You hate a large swath of the country for not even a good reason.(while claiming to be moderte - why? because you like socialized healthcare when you're on the receiving end???) Give me a break and take it easy.

And you are a lying fucking stupid idiot. I don't give a fuck you hate the President. I don't give a fuck you disrespect the President. DON'T FUCKING DISRESPECT ME, BITCH!!! Your early posts here insulted the shit out of me. You starated it. You were calling me an idiot because you can't stand anyone thats not a libtard idiot like you. So fuck you, bitch. Leave the fucking site. You don't contribute anything here. Just a posey sniffing swine.

[mickeycrimm]

So Trump supporters believed that the virus was a hoax because Democrats told them that Trump said it was? This is absolutely goofy. This isn't the 1800's Mickey. When someone says something in a rally, not only did he say it, but we can watch him saying it. Check out his Charleston SC rally from a couple of weeks ago. It was widely reported on and the tape was widely shown. At least a close paraphrase, if not a direct quote is: The Democrats are politicizing the Coronavirus, it is their new hoax.

I guess that the division of labor when we talk about anything even remotely political (and this topic shouldn't be) is that you postulate lies and misinformation and I respectfully and factually respond. You call my facts lies and tell new lies. Rinse and repeat. What fun for me. Hard to believe this forum doesn't have more posters. Singer on Mickey.

Trump also banned flights from China in January, nitwit. Does that tell you he didn't take the virus seriously? If it doesn't you're an idiot. Come to think of it, you're an idiot anyway. Trump declared a national emergency with 40 americans dead. Obama waited until 1100 were dead. Where was the main stream media then? I'll tell you where they were, they were up Obama's ass.

Now, if your ignorant ass is going to quote someone then put the exact quote up. You got that, bitch? The exact quote. Don't come with bullshit. Find the exact quote where Trump said the carona virus was a hoax and put it up, nitwit. You can't do it. Because you're a piece of shit lie.

I have a confession to make. From early January until I got home from Vegas, I had been traveling a lot and had only spent a couple weeks at home. I had consumed a lot less news than usual. One of the things that I missed completely was the explanation that Trump was referring to politicizing when he said it was their new hoax. When Mickey claimed that Trump didn't call the Coronavirus a Democratic hoax, I thought he was shamelessly lying about something that was beyond dispute. I looked up the SC rally to be sure. The site I got had to have been spliced together, because it condensed the words into back to back sentences while deleting close to a minute of what was said in between. So when I responded to Mickey, I mischaracterized Trump's statement as a sentence, which it was not. I also characterized it as only interpretable in the way I saw it, and that is not true. When I went back to get a link that Mickey requested, I discovered the fuller version. I still didn't see how that changed anything. Eventually, I got to a fact check site, that explained what I assume is Mickey's position. It made sense. I am puzzled as to why no one on this board, didn't just say that Trump meant the politicizing and you're missing a minute of the rally. What I did was my fault. It just seems that some of you would have enjoyed supplementing the name calling with something more substantial.

I apologize to any one I mislead. I apologize particularly to you Mickey for inappropriately and rudely dismissing your protests as a lie. You had previously mentioned context as important and I should have looked for the context before I responded to you. I shouldn't have been as rude regardless.

Thanks for manning up. Much appreciated. I see it all the time in the media. Trump taken out of context so they can spin it negatively.

[mickeycrimm]

Italy has been hit hard by the coronavirus. How has socialized medicine worked out for them? Their top health officials have recently suggested that age limits be put in place for healthcare and the elderly should no longer receive care. That's what Dems want for America.

So here we go. Socialized medicine for the good of all:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...L.xvX9eLCmfkQ-

[Deech]

I will never pick sides in a political fray on this forum. For some reason, I spent over an hour early this morning to understand what exactly was said in President Trump's speech at the South Carolina rally. I read Vox, Business Insider, and National Review. I went to Media Bias Fact Check to understand the political slant of these magazines/websites. Holy mackerel, I would rather write a thesis on mathematical probability.

Anyhow, the safest venue, for me, was to go to snopes and get the speech, word for word. Like myself, President Trump will start with a comment, go sideways, and then come back to finish his thoughts as if the audience knew the route he was taking. The key phrase was, "And this is their new hoax." The word, "their" refers to the Democrats and not the Coronavirus.

This is why I personally do not rely on one news organization to get basic information. Whether I read an article from National Review, Boston Globe, Washington Post, or watch CNN or Fox, it is distratcting when opinions are added. Nevertheless, I enjoyed the discussion this morning and learned quite a bit in my hourlong research to investigate why there are varying opinions on what was said, or meant.

[accountinquestion]

Italy has been hit hard by the coronavirus. How has socialized medicine worked out for them? Their top health officials have recently suggested that age limits be put in place for healthcare and the elderly should no longer receive care. That's what Dems want for America.

It is another total complete fail in reasoning to think that the free market is going to have a stockpile of nurses and ventilators for a 1 in 100 year event. People complain about the costs NOW.. lol.

This all comes about because people have it pounded in their head by the monied class that anything but free market is fail. Unfortunately, free market solutions fail in a big way in how they 1) destroy environment by not having to realize the true cost 2) completely and totally fail to bring about the superior solutions in many areas.

Oh, Jesus Christ. You are such a fail. So capitalism doesn't bring about superior solutions. GTFO. Socialism insures a solution is never found. Because no one has the incentive to find solutions. Was there a run this weekend on toilet paper at your local Walmart? Guess what. They've been out of toilet paper for years in Venezuela. Their back to using corn cobs. All those poor people down there were screaming "We want Chavez." Well, they got him. Now they are all starving to death. At least they were eating before.

Yeah, sure, our country is about 50/50 on private/socialized medicine. Watch what happens when it goes fully socialized. No more doctors and nurses. Big time shortage. They all complain now about not making any money on medicare/medicaid patients. Wait until everyone is on medicare/medicaid.

And this is not a 100 year event. These kind of viruses seem to pop up about every 10 years.

And please, stop with your strawman arguments.

Sure capitalism can bring about solutions and has and will. Never said otherwise. IMO you're a bit simple though if you think free market fixes everything. Sorry, just not how that works. When all the costs of something can expressed into dollars, then sure.

With healthcare it isn't a matter of buying/selling goods, so it just doesn't work as well.

Just the fact that you think capitalism is going to fix the shortage of ventilators shows how out of touch you are with how things really work. Previously, there will not have been a need for the level of ventilators we'll see in the coming weeks. Explain the business case for all these extra ventilators just waiting in the closet for decades...

I've never been for a fully socialized system of any sort. These things can be done in a hybrid. You don't need to get rid of the private system or even private insurance if people wish to have it. You're likely living off socialized medicine at this point so your opinions don't hold much water at this point.

My basically opinion that as a citizen we should fight against overreach. This is where I separate from run of the mill liberals, because they typically are quick to pass laws. On the other hand, I realize that a free market just degenerates into a society led by money. So in communism, power corrupts. In capitalism, capital corrupts. Politicians are owned by money interests. We've accepted that. It comes from both sides. The one exception here is Bernie. Bernie has a few ideas that I'm not particularly down with, but there will never be a politician I 100% agree with. Perhaps the Green Party. Trump as a leader has no compass. His compass is led by 2-3 things. 2 of them being reelection and the view others have of him. the 3rd thing is the dismantling of anything Obama did.

Hell my understanding is that Bernie isn't a Democrat.

Look at this airport test thing. There aren't anywhere near the facilities coming into the US needed to give hand sanitizer or masks or anything like that. I don't even think those people are being tested. How can you ramp up such a testing apparatus when no one wants to pay for the stuff beforehand? So now all these people are in 6 hour lines within feet of a dozen people, all coming from overseas where the virus has been more prevalent. Just another fail policy decision. By the time all that shit is straightened out this stuff will be so prevalent across the US no one will care. They'll like have to use mass transit even more now to get to their destination. It was just poorly thought out reactive bullshit.

Trump's chickens are coming home to roost. Now they want to bail out the markets yet again. Wheres my aid?

[accountinquestion]

So Trump supporters believed that the virus was a hoax because Democrats told them that Trump said it was? This is absolutely goofy. This isn't the 1800's Mickey. When someone says something in a rally, not only did he say it, but we can watch him saying it. Check out his Charleston SC rally from a couple of weeks ago. It was widely reported on and the tape was widely shown. At least a close paraphrase, if not a direct quote is: The Democrats are politicizing the Coronavirus, it is their new hoax.

I guess that the division of labor when we talk about anything even remotely political (and this topic shouldn't be) is that you postulate lies and misinformation and I respectfully and factually respond. You call my facts lies and tell new lies. Rinse and repeat. What fun for me. Hard to believe this forum doesn't have more posters. Singer on Mickey.

Trump also banned flights from China in January, nitwit. Does that tell you he didn't take the virus seriously? If it doesn't you're an idiot. Come to think of it, you're an idiot anyway. Trump declared a national emergency with 40 americans dead. Obama waited until 1100 were dead. Where was the main stream media then? I'll tell you where they were, they were up Obama's ass.

Now, if your ignorant ass is going to quote someone then put the exact quote up. You got that, bitch? The exact quote. Don't come with bullshit. Find the exact quote where Trump said the carona virus was a hoax and put it up, nitwit. You can't do it. Because you're a piece of shit lie.

I have a confession to make. From early January until I got home from Vegas, I had been traveling a lot and had only spent a couple weeks at home. I had consumed a lot less news than usual. One of the things that I missed completely was the explanation that Trump was referring to politicizing when he said it was their new hoax. When Mickey claimed that Trump didn't call the Coronavirus a Democratic hoax, I thought he was shamelessly lying about something that was beyond dispute. I looked up the SC rally to be sure. The site I got had to have been spliced together, because it condensed the words into back to back sentences while deleting close to a minute of what was said in between. So when I responded to Mickey, I mischaracterized Trump's statement as a sentence, which it was not. I also characterized it as only interpretable in the way I saw it, and that is not true. When I went back to get a link that Mickey requested, I discovered the fuller version. I still didn't see how that changed anything. Eventually, I got to a fact check site, that explained what I assume is Mickey's position. It made sense. I am puzzled as to why no one on this board, didn't just say that Trump meant the politicizing and you're missing a minute of the rally. What I did was my fault. It just seems that some of you would have enjoyed supplementing the name calling with something more substantial.

I apologize to any one I mislead. I apologize particularly to you Mickey for inappropriately and rudely dismissing your protests as a lie. You had previously mentioned context as important and I should have looked for the context before I responded to you. I shouldn't have been as rude regardless.

Let me get this straight. So your belief is that if the virus is called a "Democratic hoax" then it isn't actually being called a hoax? I don't understand at all.

It is also weird to me that his followers would believe that "Democrats are politicizing it". Yes, they are fighting for those of us who believe in science. Personally, I am thankful for that.

[mickeycrimm]

Just the fact that you think capitalism is going to fix the shortage of ventilators shows how out of touch you are with how things really work. Previously, there will not have been a need for the level of ventilators we'll see in the coming weeks. Explain the business case for all these extra ventilators just waiting in the closet for decades...

This is the type of phony shit by you that I'm talking about. I challenge you to show us all just once sentence on this forum where I used the word ventilator. Here you are, you phony bastard attributing me saying I think capitalism is going to fix a shortage of ventilators. This is what you are good at, putting words in people's mouths, making the shit up as you go.

Was there a shortage of ventilators during the H1N1 pandemic? I don't recall hearing about it. As a matter of fact, the lame stream media covered for Obama and he let 1100 Americans die before declaring an emergency. That's your fucking science guy right there. Totally fucking incompetent. Now, as for all those other Dems you think believe in science. Fuck off. They believe in impeachment. Because that's all they've done in 3 years.

[mickeycrimm]

Trump also banned flights from China in January, nitwit. Does that tell you he didn't take the virus seriously? If it doesn't you're an idiot. Come to think of it, you're an idiot anyway. Trump declared a national emergency with 40 americans dead. Obama waited until 1100 were dead. Where was the main stream media then? I'll tell you where they were, they were up Obama's ass.

Now, if your ignorant ass is going to quote someone then put the exact quote up. You got that, bitch? The exact quote. Don't come with bullshit. Find the exact quote where Trump said the carona virus was a hoax and put it up, nitwit. You can't do it. Because you're a piece of shit lie.

I have a confession to make. From early January until I got home from Vegas, I had been traveling a lot and had only spent a couple weeks at home. I had consumed a lot less news than usual. One of the things that I missed completely was the explanation that Trump was referring to politicizing when he said it was their new hoax. When Mickey claimed that Trump didn't call the Coronavirus a Democratic hoax, I thought he was shamelessly lying about something that was beyond dispute. I looked up the SC rally to be sure. The site I got had to have been spliced together, because it condensed the words into back to back sentences while deleting close to a minute of what was said in between. So when I responded to Mickey, I mischaracterized Trump's statement as a sentence, which it was not. I also characterized it as only interpretable in the way I saw it, and that is not true. When I went back to get a link that Mickey requested, I discovered the fuller version. I still didn't see how that changed anything. Eventually, I got to a fact check site, that explained what I assume is Mickey's position. It made sense. I am puzzled as to why no one on this board, didn't just say that Trump meant the politicizing and you're missing a minute of the rally. What I did was my fault. It just seems that some of you would have enjoyed supplementing the name calling with something more substantial.

I apologize to any one I mislead. I apologize particularly to you Mickey for inappropriately and rudely dismissing your protests as a lie. You had previously mentioned context as important and I should have looked for the context before I responded to you. I shouldn't have been as rude regardless.

Let me get this straight. So your belief is that if the virus is called a "Democratic hoax" then it isn't actually being called a hoax? I don't understand at all.

It is also weird to me that his followers would believe that "Democrats are politicizing it". Yes, they are fighting for those of us who believe in science. Personally, I am thankful for that.

Do you believe Trump's travel ban from China was racist, zenophobic? Because that's what your scientific democrats called it. How many thousands of Americans were dead before Obama put on a travel ban? Damn, you're dense.

[The Boz]

This debate is Bernie taking it in the ass from Biden and shoving his cock in every Bernie Bros mouth.

He never had it and never will. Socialism never wins.

[wasilla]

Trump also banned flights from China in January, nitwit. Does that tell you he didn't take the virus seriously? If it doesn't you're an idiot. Come to think of it, you're an idiot anyway. Trump declared a national emergency with 40 americans dead. Obama waited until 1100 were dead. Where was the main stream media then? I'll tell you where they were, they were up Obama's ass.

Now, if your ignorant ass is going to quote someone then put the exact quote up. You got that, bitch? The exact quote. Don't come with bullshit. Find the exact quote where Trump said the carona virus was a hoax and put it up, nitwit. You can't do it. Because you're a piece of shit lie.

I have a confession to make. From early January until I got home from Vegas, I had been traveling a lot and had only spent a couple weeks at home. I had consumed a lot less news than usual. One of the things that I missed completely was the explanation that Trump was referring to politicizing when he said it was their new hoax. When Mickey claimed that Trump didn't call the Coronavirus a Democratic hoax, I thought he was shamelessly lying about something that was beyond dispute. I looked up the SC rally to be sure. The site I got had to have been spliced together, because it condensed the words into back to back sentences while deleting close to a minute of what was said in between. So when I responded to Mickey, I mischaracterized Trump's statement as a sentence, which it was not. I also characterized it as only interpretable in the way I saw it, and that is not true. When I went back to get a link that Mickey requested, I discovered the fuller version. I still didn't see how that changed anything. Eventually, I got to a fact check site, that explained what I assume is Mickey's position. It made sense. I am puzzled as to why no one on this board, didn't just say that Trump meant the politicizing and you're missing a minute of the rally. What I did was my fault. It just seems that some of you would have enjoyed supplementing the name calling with something more substantial.

I apologize to any one I mislead. I apologize particularly to you Mickey for inappropriately and rudely dismissing your protests as a lie. You had previously mentioned context as important and I should have looked for the context before I responded to you. I shouldn't have been as rude regardless.

Let me get this straight. So your belief is that if the virus is called a "Democratic hoax" then it isn't actually being called a hoax? I don't understand at all.

It is also weird to me that his followers would believe that "Democrats are politicizing it". Yes, they are fighting for those of us who believe in science. Personally, I am thankful for that.

and that we're discussing this on a thread titled Corona Virus Scam. I hear the virus being called a hoax, so do a lot of other people, some Trump supporters including. I'm conceding that what Trump was referring to is a matter of opinion rather than fact. Others may honestly hear him calling the politicization a hoax. I don't make a habit of rudely calling people liars because they don't share my opinion. I try to reserve that for people who misrepresent the facts. I'm better off not being rude regardless. I'm capable of disagreeing with someone in a much less disagreeable way. I also misrepresented how Trump said what he said. Hence the apology. I suspect that Mickey and I will disagree on most things that don't involve gambling or traveling.