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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    To put things in proper mathematical context, the current U.S. death projection for this is 80,000 if current restrictions are tightened up.
    I think you better take a look at the new models.

    https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...0ZLgKvQ_SGm1g-
    I think you best check the total fatality models and infection rates, not rate of mortality.
    I think you should watch something else besides CNN and MSDNC. Those Stanford doctors aren't the only ones saying it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #42
    If California is projected to have a 50% infection rate, and New York 70-80%, that means those percentages of the people get the virus. Plug in your mortality rates and do the math. Germany and Italy are looking at well over 50% total infected. Even if the numbers are low in places like Montana and Idaho, it'll still likely be 15% infected on up. Plug in the mortality rates and add up the figures.

    That 80,000 U.S. deaths was an optimistic lowball number.

    Virtually every number, every scenario we have gotten in advance thus far has been an underestimation. That is not blaming the administration so much as the entire federal government. The military, for example, monitoring China, undoubtedly knew how bad this was going to be. They have the models.

    To be clear on this, using the president's self-rating system, I would give President Trump about a 1 on a 1-10 scale, and that's for the Chinese ban. I'd give the rest of the federal government a 2.
    Last edited by redietz; 03-27-2020 at 09:02 AM.

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    I think you better take a look at the new models.

    https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...0ZLgKvQ_SGm1g-
    I think you best check the total fatality models and infection rates, not rate of mortality.
    I think you should watch something else besides CNN and MSDNC. Those Stanford doctors aren't the only ones saying it.
    You're quoting rate of mortality, mickey. Those rates are likely correct. Do the overall math.

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    If California is projected to have a 50% infection rate, and New York 70-80%, that means those percentages of the people get the virus. Plug in your mortality rates and do the math. Germany and Italy are looking at well over 50% total infected. Even if the numbers are low in places like Montana and Idaho, it'll still likely be 15% infected on up. Plug in the mortality rates and add up the figures.

    That 80,000 U.S. deaths was an optimistic lowball number.

    Virtually every number, every scenario we have gotten in advance thus far has been an underestimation. That is not blaming the administration so much as the entire federal government. The military, for example, monitoring China, undoubtedly knew how bad this was going to be. They have the models.

    To be clear on this, using the president's self-rating system, I would give President Trump about a 1 on a 1-10 scale, and that's for the Chinese ban. I'd give the rest of the federal government a 2.
    Something is up with Germany. 50K cases and only 300 deaths. I figure the 90K cases in the U.S. is more like 500K cases but a lot of people aren't getting sick. The mortality rate is likely well under 1%.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    There is enough blame to go around. I just don't like those that bash only Trump when there is plenty of blame with democrats too. In February when they had all those Chinese festivals in New York, and lots of people were staying away, state officials including State Senator John Lieu told New Yorkers to come on down to the festivals, to not worry about the virus, to carry on as normal. And as late as March 11, Bill DeBlasio was saying the same thing to New Yorkers. That's why New York is the hot bed of coronavirus. But all libs want to do is bash Trump.
    I just saw the video on this Mickey. Couldn’t believe it, but like just over two weeks ago DeBlasio was calling for New Yorkers to go out, do things and ride the subway. And of course Cuomo never gets any blame from the media about not shutting down earlier. They were more concerned with calling the wuhan virus - racist.

    I never had any problem with it being called the Wuhan Virus, as science often names things after points of origin. So if you have Cambrian shale, why not a Wuhan virus?
    Thanks red.

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Something is up with Germany. 50K cases and only 300 deaths.
    Big part of the problem collecting data is that we don't know how other countries are calculating their data and how reliable each countries numbers are.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    I figure the 90K cases in the U.S. is more like 500K cases but a lot of people aren't getting sick. The mortality rate is likely well under 1%.
    I absolutely hope your "figuring" is true mickey, but without testing to confirm, that is all it is....figuring or guesswork. I want to see hard data that confirms this very point. That would be great news! We only get that with testing and not just those with symptoms. At very least we need a large test group.

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Something is up with Germany. 50K cases and only 300 deaths.
    Big part of the problem collecting data is that we don't know how other countries are calculating their data and how reliable each countries numbers are.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    I figure the 90K cases in the U.S. is more like 500K cases but a lot of people aren't getting sick. The mortality rate is likely well under 1%.
    I absolutely hope your "figuring" is true mickey, but without testing to confirm, that is all it is....figuring or guesswork. I want to see hard data that confirms this very point. That would be great news! We only get that with testing and not just those with symptoms. At very least we need a large test group.
    Imperial College scientist that predicted 500K UK deaths adjusts figure to 20K or lower. Dude's a scientist. That would be 0.003% of the UK population, 67,0000,000. That's 3 one-hundreths of 1% of the population. .

    https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...2aPK8D38KhvKU-
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    If California is projected to have a 50% infection rate, and New York 70-80%, that means those percentages of the people get the virus. Plug in your mortality rates and do the math. Germany and Italy are looking at well over 50% total infected. Even if the numbers are low in places like Montana and Idaho, it'll still likely be 15% infected on up. Plug in the mortality rates and add up the figures.

    That 80,000 U.S. deaths was an optimistic lowball number.

    Virtually every number, every scenario we have gotten in advance thus far has been an underestimation. That is not blaming the administration so much as the entire federal government. The military, for example, monitoring China, undoubtedly knew how bad this was going to be. They have the models.

    To be clear on this, using the president's self-rating system, I would give President Trump about a 1 on a 1-10 scale, and that's for the Chinese ban. I'd give the rest of the federal government a 2.
    If you give Trump a 1 then you must give European leaders a fraction of 1, correct? Roughly the same population with 3 times as many cases. What would you rate them at, .3, .2?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #49
    Redietz, you are pushing false narrative. Over on WoV you said we are number one in coronavirus cases and then you said "So I'm sitting in the worst country for it." As if having the most cases is proof positive that we are the worst country for it. Remember that book I was talking about, How to Lie With Statistics. Well you just did it again. You are not in the worst country for it. We are way down the lists on per capita infections and deaths. We're like 3rd in population and 30th in per capita infections. But nice try with the false narrative again.

    Perhaps you might want to sit the virus out in Italy or Spain since we are ahead of them in cases.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #50
    Redietz wrote:

    "To be clear on this, using the president's self-rating system, I would give President Trump about a 1 on a 1-10 scale, and that's for the Chinese ban. I'd give the rest of the federal government a 2."

    Trump still comes out in a tie with you if comparing apples to oranges regarding your sportsbook picks. Oh, I forgot you don't actually stick your neck out and make any picks.

  11. #51
    I miss the old Redietz who talked about street guys and no such thing as a Mob.
    This guy used to talk about how Rob Singer might get whacked.
    The new Redietz is pushing an Anti-Trump Agenda and fits in well with the Liberal Base/Bias of WoV.
    Personally I ignored the Real Estate Crisis and H1N1.
    Unfortunately the Kung Fu Flu cannot be ignored because they shut everything down.
    Trump was against it but had to succumb to the pressure.
    He is trying to block this Agenda but he can only slow it down.
    The youth has been indoctrinated and eventually Socialism will take over no matter how many resist.
    Last edited by monet; 03-27-2020 at 01:37 PM.

  12. #52
    Redietz knows he's lying and falsely spinning different snippets of information, but like all liberals who claim they're "progressives and not liberals" he cannot figure why it is that Trump's approval numbers has climbed steadily across the entire political spectrum during his handling of this crisis. That "1" he gives Trump---even that had to eat away at his insides.

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    At this point, people will be fleeing to Anctartica very soon to escape Covid-19!
    Tasha, this is another excellent post by you! These kind of comments are priceless.

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    60% of Americans say Trump is doing a good job with the virus. Of course, you know that you are right and 60% of Americans are wrong. That's the liberal way.
    Just out of curiosity who conducted THAT poll? I see 3 legit recent polls on the topic, 1 by Reuters yesterday 49% approve of Trumps handling and 44 disapprove, a second one yesterday by Economist that was 48-46, and one by Fox News released today that was 51 approve and 46 disapprove of his handling of Coronavirus. All 3 slightly more approval, but only one even a majority. So who did this 60% poll you speak of. I am guessing some Trump friendly biased group or website.
    Nope. It was Gallup.

  15. #55
    What is hilarious is main stream media complained for months about no press briefings from Trump. Now that he’s doing them on coronavirus and getting good approval ratings they want to quit covering his briefings.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #56
    Won’t be #1 for long....the fibrous fecal matter strikes the rotating blades in Russia.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-bi...101837896.html
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  17. #57
    Can someone explain to me why British Royals would relocate to LA, California???
    Especially during a Statewide Stay at Home Order??
    Why would she work for Disney?
    Did the Queen disown them??
    I would think you would want to hide out on some 53,000 Acre Estate like Prince Charles.
    Didn't we ban International Travel?
    Oh... seems they got out of Canada right before the ban.
    I don't really follow this stuff and after a few minutes of reading, it seems like a mess that has gone on over a year.
    I never understood the whole marriage anyway.
    I was just kinda surprised yesterday when I heard they moved to LA and were under 14 day quarantine.
    Seems odd that you would want to move to a so called Hot Spot.
    Last edited by monet; 03-27-2020 at 08:07 PM.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Can someone explain to me why British Royals would relocate to LA, California??? They aren’t Royals anymore.
    Especially during a Statewide Stay at Home Order??
    Why would she work for Disney? To make $$$$
    Did the Queen disown them?? No, left on their own
    I would think you would want to hide out on some 53,000 Acre Estate like Prince Charles. Well, hiding really did not help Prince Charles
    Didn't we ban International Travel? Yes, but they got to Canada first
    Oh... seems they got out of Canada right before the ban.
    I don't really follow this stuff and after a few minutes of reading, it seems like a mess that has gone on over a year.
    I never understood the whole marriage anyway. Apparently, neither does William, mom or dad, or brother. I think Charles gets it.
    I was just kinda surprised yesterday when I heard they moved to LA and were under 14 day quarantine.
    Seems odd that you would want to move to a so called Hot Spot.
    Hope that helps some.
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Can someone explain to me why British Royals would relocate to LA, California???
    Especially during a Statewide Stay at Home Order??
    Why would she work for Disney?
    Did the Queen disown them??
    I would think you would want to hide out on some 53,000 Acre Estate like Prince Charles.
    Didn't we ban International Travel?
    Oh... seems they got out of Canada right before the ban.
    I don't really follow this stuff and after a few minutes of reading, it seems like a mess that has gone on over a year.
    I never understood the whole marriage anyway.
    I was just kinda surprised yesterday when I heard they moved to LA and were under 14 day quarantine.
    Seems odd that you would want to move to a so called Hot Spot.
    They said they wouldn't move to U.S. until Trump was out of office as they are both kneejerk liberals. That didn't hold up.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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