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    Wynn is installing thermal cameras at entrances. If you show up too hot you'll be escorted to a private area for a personal temperature check.

  2. #2
    Are you so addicted to casinos that you have the craving to search for ANY gambling-related story?

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Are you so addicted to casinos that you have the craving to search for ANY gambling-related story?
    Better than your shoot from the lip bullshit.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Wynn is installing thermal cameras at entrances. If you show up too hot you'll be escorted to a private area for a personal temperature check.
    Andrew, it looks like you and alan think alike.
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  5. #5
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Wynn is installing thermal cameras at entrances. If you show up too hot you'll be escorted to a private area for a personal temperature check.
    Andrew, it looks like you and alan think alike.
    Hmm. Alan and Andrew poating almost the same thing DOES seem weird but I'll still give Andrew The Benefit Of The Doubt. Two separate Posters on another website ended up posting exactly the SAME thing at the SAME time down to the last second. They joked about being in perfect synchronicity with each other. LMAO!
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  6. #6
    Ho-hum tasha. Even when you know and are shown something, your density takes over....

  7. #7
    It is a conspiracy against MendleBread!
    AndrewG is following Mendleson on all social media and is a copycat.

    Wasn't there an AndrewG on WoV awhile back claiming to work in the Casino?
    Stated that it was his real name.
    Perhaps it was a different name... I forget.

    AndrewG refuses to say he is or isn't MendleBread.
    For me it is a 99% chance that he is Alan.
    I can't go 100% like Singer.
    Have to leave some room for error.

  8. #8
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    LOL

    Better watch out or the Virus will jump out of your closet at night and get you!!
    Glad you don't make the rules as we would be under Stay at Home for 2 years or more.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    Howard Hughes shows back up, figured he was now a FT WoVer. That group seems to either better accepted or just ignores your dribble.

    You have to be disappointed that numbers are dropping by the day and things are starting to open back up. Luckily no one is making you leave your house and Amazon still offers everything you need to stay in for the next 10 years if still fearful of ending up on the toilet with a fever.

    And now you are down to people that are not even sick are spreading it. Most would see it as a GOOD thing people have it and not get sick. But that wouldn’t fit your fear mongering agenda. Add in the Stanford study from weeks ago and putting it in terms you can relate to, it’s “American moving forward” 42- The “We are all going to die team” 0. But it looks like your future bet on death for everyone from CV isn’t going to be cashed.

    At least you still have Biden to save the day.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    Howard Hughes shows back up, figured he was now a FT WoVer. That group seems to either better accepted or just ignores your dribble.

    You have to be disappointed that numbers are dropping by the day and things are starting to open back up. Luckily no one is making you leave your house and Amazon still offers everything you need to stay in for the next 10 years if still fearful of ending up on the toilet with a fever.

    And now you are down to people that are not even sick are spreading it. Most would see it as a GOOD thing people have it and not get sick. But that wouldn’t fit your fear mongering agenda. Add in the Stanford study from weeks ago and putting it in terms you can relate to, it’s “American moving forward” 42- The “We are all going to die team” 0. But it looks like your future bet on death for everyone from CV isn’t going to be cashed.

    At least you still have Biden to save the day.

    I was attempting to give correct information.

    Boz, I don't know your info sources, but you should re-check. It's been obvious since I mentioned it in my initial blog post on this (March 14, I think) that asymptomatic people were a big part of the transmission equation, based on the otherwise inexplicable transmission rates in Iran and Italy. If you're just discovering this, your info sources are seriously out of date. It had to be either asymptomatic transmission or airborne. https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ronavirus.html

    The fascinating aspect of this is that someone usually reasonable like Boz ignores the accuracy of the information and assigns a personal motive (fear) for my reporting accurate information and having been correct each step of the way. There's a decent chance, first of all, that I've already had it, but I can't get an antibodies test here in Tennessee.

    If I have not yet had it, I'm personally better off if everyone goes out and does what they want and as many people as possible get ill ASAP in the months ahead. That creates the fastest way for herd immunity to be established and would be the most convenient chain of events. My older relatives are all pretty much dead, so I'm not likely to give it to anyone family-wise. By Boz's reasoning, I should be relieved that Americans are being irresponsible. But that will mean tens of thousands of additional Americans will get ill and thousands will die, maybe tens of thousands. So, even though that's the most convenient chain of events for me, I'm not going to root for what's personally most convenient. I'm not some child at recess needing my Wal-Mart, sports pub, and trip to Dollywood.

    The numbers, Boz, have not been "dropping by the day." That's what the model the White House is using predicts, but that is not what has happened. Check the Johns Hopkins coronavirus mapping. Florida opens their beaches back up, and their peak isn't for another two weeks, at the earliest. Protestors in Pennsylvania have a new slogan, "Jesus is my vaccine." Good luck with that.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    You have three countries not following protocols that other nations have followed. The UK, Sweden, and the U.S. The UK and U.S. are doing miserably. Sweden is up to bat.

    That 60K deaths by August 4th model not only uses an artificial for-no-good-reason cutoff date, it's going to be wrong. That model assumes stay-in-place orders up until that August 4th date. So that has been blown to hell. It was going to be wrong, anyway. The virus will not be going on vacation August 4th, for those who are curious as to why that model is being quoted. And Boz, I was following the Stanford stuff weeks ago. You don't even understand the context. The "oh my God, it's much more widespread, this is great" headlines are a direct result of the comparison to the preliminary hard-to-believe low results, which I mentioned on this forum were so low I thought they had to be wrong. The recent Stanford results were many times the preliminary, but still really at the low end of what was expected a month ago. You're talking 5% penetration right now. The original projections were that California (and Stanford was testing Santa Clara) would be 50% plus penetration by the end of the year.
    Last edited by redietz; 04-20-2020 at 09:53 AM.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I was attempting to give correct information.

    Boz, I don't know your info sources, but you should re-check. It's been obvious since I mentioned it in my initial blog post on this (March 14, I think) that asymptomatic people were a big part of the transmission equation, based on the otherwise inexplicable transmission rates in Iran and Italy. If you're just discovering this, your info sources are seriously out of date. It had to be either asymptomatic transmission or airborne. https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ronavirus.html

    The fascinating aspect of this is that someone usually reasonable like Boz ignores the accuracy of the information and assigns a personal motive (fear) for my reporting accurate information and having been correct each step of the way. There's a decent chance, first of all, that I've already had it, but I can't get an antibodies test here in Tennessee.

    If I have not yet had it, I'm personally better off if everyone goes out and does what they want and as many people as possible get ill ASAP in the months ahead. That creates the fastest way for herd immunity to be established and would be the most convenient chain of events. My older relatives are all pretty much dead, so I'm not likely to give it to anyone family-wise. By Boz's reasoning, I should be relieved that Americans are being irresponsible. But that will mean tens of thousands of additional Americans will get ill and thousands will die, maybe tens of thousands. So, even though that's the most convenient chain of events for me, I'm not going to root for what's personally most convenient. I'm not some child at recess needing my Wal-Mart, sports pub, and trip to Dollywood.

    The numbers, Boz, have not been "dropping by the day." That's what the model the White House is using predicts, but that is not what has happened. Check the Johns Hopkins coronavirus mapping. Florida opens their beaches back up, and their peak isn't for another two weeks, at the earliest. Protestors in Pennsylvania have a new slogan, "Jesus is my vaccine." Good luck with that.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    You have three countries not following protocols that other nations have followed. The UK, Sweden, and the U.S. The UK and U.S. are doing miserably. Sweden is up to bat.

    That 60K deaths by August 4th model not only uses an artificial for-no-good-reason cutoff date, it's going to be wrong. That model assumes stay-in-place orders up until that August 4th date. So that has been blown to hell. It was going to be wrong, anyway. The virus will not be going on vacation August 4th, for those who are curious as to why that model is being quoted. And Boz, I was following the Stanford stuff weeks ago. You don't even understand the context. The "oh my God, it's much more widespread, this is great" headlines are a direct result of the comparison to the preliminary hard-to-believe low results, which I mentioned on this forum were so low I thought they had to be wrong. The recent Stanford results were many times the preliminary, but still really at the low end of what was expected a month ago. You're talking 5% penetration right now. The original projections were that California (and Stanford was testing Santa Clara) would be 50% plus penetration by the end of the year.
    You never give any information about how this shutdown is going to cost Millions of people their businesses and jobs
    Already has actually.
    No information about how landlords are evicting people.
    No information about how many people are out of food and money.
    The Chinese Virus is bad and we get that.
    However this idea of long term shutdown is worse.

    This Redietz has no worry of Government Control or Civil Unrest.
    Only the Virus is bad... very, very bad.

    Where is the Redietz that drives his friends Lamborghini?
    What happened to the Redietz with the (ahem) Street Connections?
    What happened to the Redietz who was or was not going to make Singer "disappear"?
    I miss that guy.
    Last edited by monet; 04-20-2020 at 01:09 PM.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I was attempting to give correct information.

    Boz, I don't know your info sources, but you should re-check. It's been obvious since I mentioned it in my initial blog post on this (March 14, I think) that asymptomatic people were a big part of the transmission equation, based on the otherwise inexplicable transmission rates in Iran and Italy. If you're just discovering this, your info sources are seriously out of date. It had to be either asymptomatic transmission or airborne. https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ronavirus.html

    The fascinating aspect of this is that someone usually reasonable like Boz ignores the accuracy of the information and assigns a personal motive (fear) for my reporting accurate information and having been correct each step of the way. There's a decent chance, first of all, that I've already had it, but I can't get an antibodies test here in Tennessee.

    If I have not yet had it, I'm personally better off if everyone goes out and does what they want and as many people as possible get ill ASAP in the months ahead. That creates the fastest way for herd immunity to be established and would be the most convenient chain of events. My older relatives are all pretty much dead, so I'm not likely to give it to anyone family-wise. By Boz's reasoning, I should be relieved that Americans are being irresponsible. But that will mean tens of thousands of additional Americans will get ill and thousands will die, maybe tens of thousands. So, even though that's the most convenient chain of events for me, I'm not going to root for what's personally most convenient. I'm not some child at recess needing my Wal-Mart, sports pub, and trip to Dollywood.

    The numbers, Boz, have not been "dropping by the day." That's what the model the White House is using predicts, but that is not what has happened. Check the Johns Hopkins coronavirus mapping. Florida opens their beaches back up, and their peak isn't for another two weeks, at the earliest. Protestors in Pennsylvania have a new slogan, "Jesus is my vaccine." Good luck with that.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    You have three countries not following protocols that other nations have followed. The UK, Sweden, and the U.S. The UK and U.S. are doing miserably. Sweden is up to bat.

    That 60K deaths by August 4th model not only uses an artificial for-no-good-reason cutoff date, it's going to be wrong. That model assumes stay-in-place orders up until that August 4th date. So that has been blown to hell. It was going to be wrong, anyway. The virus will not be going on vacation August 4th, for those who are curious as to why that model is being quoted. And Boz, I was following the Stanford stuff weeks ago. You don't even understand the context. The "oh my God, it's much more widespread, this is great" headlines are a direct result of the comparison to the preliminary hard-to-believe low results, which I mentioned on this forum were so low I thought they had to be wrong. The recent Stanford results were many times the preliminary, but still really at the low end of what was expected a month ago. You're talking 5% penetration right now. The original projections were that California (and Stanford was testing Santa Clara) would be 50% plus penetration by the end of the year.
    You never give any information about how this shutdown is going to cost Millions of people their businesses and jobs
    Already has actually.
    No information about how landlords are evicting people.
    No information about how many people are out of food and money.
    The Chinese Virus is bad and we get that.
    However this idea of long term shutdown is worse.

    This Redietz has no worry of Government Control or Civil Unrest.
    Only the Virus is bad... very, very bad.

    Where is the Redietz that drives his friends Lamborghini?
    What happened to the Redietz with the (ahem) Street Connections?
    What happened to the Redietz who was or was not going to make Singer "disappear"?
    I miss that guy.
    Worry of government control? Not me. I'm like Rick in Casablanca. I think that analogy covers all of your questions, Lamborghinis, streetwise, the works. To be fair, I never said I'd make "Singer" disappear. I never use that word.

    What exactly concerns you, monet? Virtually every other government has protocols in place (with the exception of the UK, which was slow and paying the price, and Sweden). Virtually every other government expect its economy to handle the 12-18 months of the worst of this. But you don't think the U.S. can hunker down and survive economically? Because why? The U.S. is more vulnerable than Italy, or Spain, or Germany, or New Zealand? Really? We need to get those minimum-wage front-liners working so we can start back up for what reason exactly? If Italy can do it, if Germany can do it, why are you arguing that the U.S. economy is so weak?

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    So what's the answer? Is there anything we can reasonably do to knock this out permanently?

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    So what's the answer? Is there anything we can reasonably do to knock this out permanently?
    You asking HH Red for advice? What’s next? You buying his sports picks?

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    So what's the answer? Is there anything we can reasonably do to knock this out permanently?
    You asking HH Red for advice? What’s next? You buying his sports picks?
    I would like to know what He suggests can be done. I know what most other people here are suggesting we do and that's why I asked him specifically perhaps he has a different point of view of what can be done. I don't care what people think of Red or what his political views are, I can respect his intelligence and consider his point of view. For Fux sake, I already know enough conspiracy theorists.

    Because I'm selfish when it comes to some areas of my life, and I love the time off, I say keep the shit shut down for a few months longer... if it will help.

    Perhaps Advantage players who have enough to sustain for a while can look on the bright side since there will be less competition once the casinos are back in action.

    P.S. are there any good pics right now?
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 04-20-2020 at 11:51 PM.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Current assumptions are that a good chunk, possibly more than half of transmission of the virus occurs from asymptomatic people. This would mean that the thermal cameras, while useful in that they might reduce infected individuals on property by half, would of course fail to detect the other half who are asymptomatic. While catching half of those who are contagious is useful, what does cutting number of infected on property by half really mean?

    It's a nice loud public relations move, certainly. It makes properties safer, but it surely doesn't make them safe. It does eliminate the obvious hacking, coughing seriously ill, so that may help Wynn customers relax a bit. Relaxation, however, doesn't solve the core problem. The virus hides in asymptomatic people.
    So what's the answer? Is there anything we can reasonably do to knock this out permanently?
    Let casino check anal. You good excuse.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Let casino check anal. You good excuse.
    lol... I had to think about this for a moment.
    Not sure who you were being sarcastic at or perhaps you were making fun of both.

  19. #19
    Mr Redietz raised a valid point about thermal cameras not picking up asymptomatic persons. But even if they eliminate some of the infected it helps and he said that too. Bottom line is he's correct.

    Since I was tipped off by a neighbor about the Wynn plan on their website lots of other media picked up on it as well within about thirty minutes. It wasn't a secret.

    You should read the entire plan. Wynn wants everyone to wear a mask and to sanitize their hands before they can enter. They even have a plan to reopen their poker room. The "media" didn't pick up on that nugget yet.

    You really have it out for this Mr Alan. In case you're wondering Bloomberg, CBS, Fox and about a dozen other news companies also had the story within minutes. If you stopped looking for gotchas (thank you Mr Coach Belly for the term) you might see what's really being discussed in the world instead of repeating your own diarrhea.

    Haven't seen anything from Mr Kewlj and I hope he's okay.

    I get better info about the casinos on the websites of the local TV stations than I do here. You people know shit. But you sure know how to throw shit around.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    You should read the entire plan. Wynn wants everyone to wear a mask and to sanitize their hands before they can enter. They even have a plan to reopen their poker room. The "media" didn't pick up on that nugget yet.
    AndrewG, you bring up a valid point that I’ve been reading about. One of the key parts of the plan when casinos open is to require everyone (employees and customers) to wear masks. This will stop the spread, no matter what your situation is with the virus.

    Virus don’t magically move from one person to the other. They move between people when you let them into your mouth or nose, or some other exposed area of your body. Masks help in two ways: 1) If you’re infected and don’t know it, you no longer can spread the virus (it gets trapped in your mask). 2) if someone close by you is infected, you can’t catch it from them since you have a mask on.

    Casinos workers will actually be safer than a hospital workers since in hospitals it’s mostly just the health care workers that wear the mask. The infected patient doesn’t wear masks since they need to eat, drink, take medicine, etc.

    It sounds like Wynn (and I’m sure other casinos will do the same thing) have plans for a very safe environment for both their workers and customers when they open.

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