Yes, Trump touted this drug as a game changer. 17% greater chance of dying if you take it.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hy...udy-2020-04-21
Yes, Trump touted this drug as a game changer. 17% greater chance of dying if you take it.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/hy...udy-2020-04-21
Last edited by Midwest Player; 04-21-2020 at 12:08 PM.
So it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump...-against-virusOriginally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
Since you are here, redietz will you finally answer the question. With the shelter at home order naturally highway fatalities are way down. 40K people a year die from it. If everyone quit driving those lives would be saved. Would you be willing to give up driving to save those lives?Originally Posted by redietzhttps://www.dailywire.com/news/trump...-against-virusOriginally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
redietz will not answer your question. He hides away. He's one of the biggest cowards I've ever seen when it's time to make a stand on what he makes all his weirdo claims about, or when it's time to be a man.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSince you are here, redietz will you finally answer the question. With the shelter at home order naturally highway fatalities are way down. 40K people a year die from it. If everyone quit driving those lives would be saved. Would you be willing to give up driving to save those lives?Originally Posted by redietzhttps://www.dailywire.com/news/trump...-against-virusOriginally Posted by mickeycrimm
Redietz, you proved my point. MWP said Trump touted the drug as a game changer. You followed suit with this link. All I had to read was the headline "TRUMP SAYS THESE DRUGS COULD BE GAME CHANGERS IN FIGHT AGAINST VIRUS."Originally Posted by redietzhttps://www.dailywire.com/news/trump...-against-virusOriginally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
Take a look at these two headlines:
"TRUMP SAYS THESE DRUGS ARE GAME CHANGERS."
"TRUMP SAYS THESE DRUGS COULD BE GAME CHANGERS."
Now, redietz, try some intellectual honesty for a change. Do both headlines mean the same thing? Of course, you and MWP know full well "could be game changers" does not mean the same thing as "are game changers."
It wasn't even a nice try, redietz. All it did was show how intellectually dishonest lefties like you and MWP are.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Red- just remember Galileo. He dropped a heavy weight and a light one atop the tower of Pisa. Despite witnessing WITH THEIR OWN EYES both objects hitting the ground at the same time, they persisted in their own way of thnking. You can't tell these idiots anything.Originally Posted by redietz[url://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-says-these-two-drugs-could-be-game-changer-in-fight-against-virus[/url]Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
Yep, the equivalence principle. Inertia equals gravitational inertia. Time slows as gravity increases. I guess as well this means, space is the neutral dimension.Originally Posted by slingshot
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Shut it down, LMR. = Low Mind thRust, (invar.)
555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.
3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.
Yep, that pretty sums it up. That was as clear as mud. I don’t think there should be any more debates on whatever point you were trying to make after that post. Good job! You nailed it!Originally Posted by LMR
Ouch sling.Originally Posted by slingshotRed- just remember Galileo. He dropped a heavy weight and a light one atop the tower of Pisa. Despite witnessing WITH THEIR OWN EYES both objects hitting the ground at the same time, they persisted in their own way of thnking. You can't tell these idiots anything.Originally Posted by redietz[url://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-says-these-two-drugs-could-be-game-changer-in-fight-against-virus[/url]Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Trump, did call this drug a game changer, and by doing so created shortages of the drug that are needed for conditions that it is actually prescribed for like Lupus.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/h...ronavirus.html
The New York Times? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Get the fuck out, dumbass.Originally Posted by Midwest PlayerTrump, did call this drug a game changer, and by doing so created shortages of the drug that are needed for conditions that it is actually prescribed for like Lupus.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/h...ronavirus.html
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
MWP, did you even read this article? It was actually quite positive on hydroxychloquine, when you read between the lines. It gave an example where 3,000 health care workers were being given this drug as a preventive measure. Do you really think doctors would prescribe a drug to their own health care workers if they thought it wouldn’t help them?Originally Posted by Midwest PlayerTrump, did call this drug a game changer, and by doing so created shortages of the drug that are needed for conditions that it is actually prescribed for like Lupus.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo it was stupid to test the drug for treatment of coronavirus. Is that your opinion of every drug being tested for it?Originally Posted by Midwest Player
For the record Trump did not tout the drug as a game changer. He said the drug need to be pursued to see if it would successfully treat coronavirus. However, you libtard fucks always got to twist shit up to make someone look bad. In this case you are the only one that looks bad. Now go climb back under your rock where you love it so well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/h...ronavirus.html
To sum up this article it, more or less, says the jury is still out on this drug and how effective it is at treating the coronavirus. It tries to put a negative spin on it, but if you read through the lines, it’s more positive than I thought. Doctors are using it in a lot of hospitals, and it’s not because of something Trump said at a news conference.
I also looked up your claim of shortages of this drug for patients with Lupus and I couldn’t find one example of this happening. I found many articles (a couple were in The NY Times) that said this could happen, or this was a concern. I couldn’t find any that said this has happened. I found one article that said a Lupus patient “had trouble” filling their prescription, but this could be for many reasons, one being a political agenda against Trump.
Trust me, The NY Times and all your liberal buddies are looking for that one Lupus patient that can’t get this drug. If they find this one patient, trust me, it will make the headlines in all the liberal newspapers. So far it hasn’t happened, so they resorts to fear monger and playing “what ifs. Well so far “what if” hasn’t happened.
MWP, you really need to go back to grade school and take a course on reading. I can see you have a difficult time comprehending things. You see things in articles that aren’t there. Probably because you’ve been a liberal so long your brain no longer functions normally.
Last edited by Bob21; 04-22-2020 at 02:51 AM.
He didn't get much out of that (Kent State?) education.Originally Posted by Bob21MWP, did you even read this article? It was actually quite positive on hydroxychloquine, when you read between the lines. It gave an example where 3,000 health care workers were being given this drug as a preventive measure. Do you really think doctors would prescribe a drug to their own health care workers if they thought it wouldn’t help them?Originally Posted by Midwest PlayerTrump, did call this drug a game changer, and by doing so created shortages of the drug that are needed for conditions that it is actually prescribed for like Lupus.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/h...ronavirus.html
To sum up this article it, more or less, says the jury is still out on this drug and how effective it is at treating the coronavirus. It tries to put a negative spin on it, but if you read through the lines, it’s more positive than I thought. Doctors are using it in a lot of hospitals, and it’s not because of something Trump said at a news conference.
I also looked up your claim of shortages of this drug for patients with Lupus and I couldn’t find one example of this happening. I found many articles (a couple were in The NY Times) that said this could happen, or this was a concern. I couldn’t find any that said this has happened. I found one article that said a Lupus patient “had trouble” filling their prescription, but this could be for many reasons, one being a political agenda against Trump.
Trust me, The NY Times and all your liberal buddies are looking for that one Lupus patient that can’t get this drug. If they find this one patient, trust me, it will make the headlines in all the liberal newspapers. So far it hasn’t happened, so they resorts to fear monger and playing “what ifs. Well so far “what if” hasn’t happened.
MWP, you really need to go back to grade school and take a course on reading. I can see you have a difficult time comprehending things. You see things in articles that aren’t there. Probably because you’ve been a liberal so long your brain no longer functions normally.
And he never answered my questions.
The bomb throwing liberal terrorist has returned. Instead of answering thoughtful questions some people have asked him, he goes back to tossing hand grenades. At least he's consistent.Originally Posted by Midwest Player
Here's a newsflash MWP. Trump is an optimist. He's looking for solutions. I know you'll have hard time understanding this, being a doom and gloom liberal.
I've been following this debate. My first question is was it a blind or double blind study?
If they deliberately gave the drugs to those more seriously ill it was not a blind study, and you could expect a higher mortality rate among those more seriously ill.
Since the drug was given to veterans at VA hospitals you can also assume that the ages might be skewed to older and we know mortality is higher among older.
There are so many details missing from this report I can't even imagine how it can be considered as meaningful except to those who are against the drug's use.
Why do so many want this drug to fail?
Exactly. Thank you Alan for your first clear and logical post.Originally Posted by AndrewG
Take off that stupid mask you big baby.
Because Trump said the drug may work on coronavirus. Some libtards like LMR (Liberal Mental Retard) and redietz won't have anything to do with anything associated with Trump. They have misrepresented people supporting testing of the drug as thinking it's a miracle cure because Trump mentioned it. They think it will make us look bad and also Trump look bad so they are rooting for the drug to fail.Originally Posted by AndrewG
If the drug fails it means people die. But these libtards don't care if people die as long as they think it will make Trump and supporters look bad. Have you seen redietz or LMR support testing of the drug. Redietz is silent on the issue and LMR just makes sarcastic comments about it. That tells me everything I need to know about those two.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
And for the record MWP, this article said no such thing as what you're claiming. The following is what you're claiming the article is saying: "17% greater chance of dying if you take it
Here's what the article really said: "About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died, too, but the difference between that group and those receiving usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival."
Basically there is not enough data to know if it works or not. If you're going to throw out "bombs", please accurately report what article's say. Don't be one of those dishonest liberals and misquote people and articles. Thanks!
Bob, Bob, what's the problem. Either you can't read, or maybe it's you can't add and subtract. Here is what the article said. "About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone." Now if you can do first grade math 28% minus 11% is 17%. Bob, you are just another Tumptard brain washed by Trump.Originally Posted by Bob21
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