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    I have a question for Mr Singer and it's been troubling me since it first came to mind about six months ago.

    Six months ago Mr Kewlj posted a poll about who believed Mr Singer's claim about this double up bug. I commented that he should have written a book about it instead of talking about it on a forum with 20 members.

    I mean really... why didn't Mr Singer write a book?

    In the past six months I've learned a lot here. Mr Singer has written two books. He also had a newspaper column. He knows publishers. He's been featured on TV and on YouTube videos.

    We all know about books and movies and TV shows about blackjack and high rollers and how people "broke Vegas."

    I see on YouTube very profitable channels with videos about slot play and table game action.

    Yet, Mr Singer with his story about beating the casinos for $2.8-million dollars, avoiding detection by the casinos, avoiding prosecution unlike the guys in that Wired Magazine article, only goes to this one forum with his magical story?

    Let me get this straight. Mr Singer has written two books, plus a newspaper column, has been on TV and has videos on YouTube seen by thousands... and takes one of the greatest beating Vegas stories no farther than this forum?

    Well, something is terribly wrong here.

    He should have easily been able to sell his brilliant story for another million dollars to Paramount or Colombia or some big company! Robert Deniro could have played him.

    Who wouldn't have wanted to see this in theaters? Or read the book? If magazines clamored for an article about a winning blackjack player why wouldn't they clamor for a guy who beat the video poker machines, undetected, without any special casino deals, and successfully even beat casino security at the biggest properties?

    Mr Singer why didn't you sell your story? I'm sure Hollywood would have paid you a fortune for your true story especially since there are two other dumb shmucks who went thru hell while you just coasted by without even raising an eyebrow?

    Hell, Tom Hanks might even want to play you?

    And Hollywood loves true stories. Sell them your true story!

    Heck, Angelina Jolie could be cast as your wife, given how sexy your true story is!

    True stories like this just can't end on a forum like this, can they? The world loves true stories of triumph.

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    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    I have a question for Mr Singer and it's been troubling me since it first came to mind about six months ago.

    Six months ago Mr Kewlj posted a poll about who believed Mr Singer's claim about this double up bug. I commented that he should have written a book about it instead of talking about it on a forum with 20 members.

    I mean really... why didn't Mr Singer write a book?

    In the past six months I've learned a lot here. Mr Singer has written two books. He also had a newspaper column. He knows publishers. He's been featured on TV and on YouTube videos.

    We all know about books and movies and TV shows about blackjack and high rollers and how people "broke Vegas."

    I see on YouTube very profitable channels with videos about slot play and table game action.

    Yet, Mr Singer with his story about beating the casinos for $2.8-million dollars, avoiding detection by the casinos, avoiding prosecution unlike the guys in that Wired Magazine article, only goes to this one forum with his magical story?

    Let me get this straight. Mr Singer has written two books, plus a newspaper column, has been on TV and has videos on YouTube seen by thousands... and takes one of the greatest beating Vegas stories no farther than this forum?

    Well, something is terribly wrong here.

    He should have easily been able to sell his brilliant story for another million dollars to Paramount or Colombia or some big company! Robert Deniro could have played him.

    Who wouldn't have wanted to see this in theaters? Or read the book? If magazines clamored for an article about a winning blackjack player why wouldn't they clamor for a guy who beat the video poker machines, undetected, without any special casino deals, and successfully even beat casino security at the biggest properties?

    Mr Singer why didn't you sell your story? I'm sure Hollywood would have paid you a fortune for your true story especially since there are two other dumb shmucks who went thru hell while you just coasted by without even raising an eyebrow?

    Hell, Tom Hanks might even want to play you?

    And Hollywood loves true stories. Sell them your true story!

    Heck, Angelina Jolie could be cast as your wife, given how sexy your true story is!

    True stories like this just can't end on a forum like this, can they? The world loves true stories of triumph.
    it's all about the Netflix series nowadays.

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    If Alan was any type of investigative reporter who knew his stuff, he'd have completely reviewed what I wrote on this forum about having been contacted by IGT months ago. He might also be able to deduce why things are as they are now. Andrew/Alan will keep the nonsense going, and the majority of his posts will continue to be about me for a while. He's been wounded, and that's what these people do. Don't doubt for a minute Dan doesn't really know what's what. Everybody else knows also. You're a bad spoofer Alan.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If Alan was any type of investigative reporter who knew his stuff, he'd have completely reviewed what I wrote on this forum about having been contacted by IGT months ago. He might also be able to deduce why things are as they are now. Andrew/Alan will keep the nonsense going, and the majority of his posts will continue to be about me for a while. He's been wounded, and that's what these people do. Don't doubt for a minute Dan doesn't really know what's what. Everybody else knows also. You're a bad spoofer Alan.
    Mr Singer you have an answer for every question. But just end the questions by showing some proof.

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    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If Alan was any type of investigative reporter who knew his stuff, he'd have completely reviewed what I wrote on this forum about having been contacted by IGT months ago. He might also be able to deduce why things are as they are now. Andrew/Alan will keep the nonsense going, and the majority of his posts will continue to be about me for a while. He's been wounded, and that's what these people do. Don't doubt for a minute Dan doesn't really know what's what. Everybody else knows also. You're a bad spoofer Alan.
    Mr Singer you have an answer for every question. But just end the questions by showing some proof.
    Why does anyone who LIES with every post on who they are deserve any respect or answers?

    You deserve all the negative responses you are getting.

    For once in your life Alan be honest and admit who you are. If you have an issue with Dan or anyone else than put it out there. It’s embarrassing you are using Axel and anyone else as a go between. And quite honestly I think it’s beneath him to be used as your tool.

    I get it’s tough being accused on being broke, a gambling addict, a failed businessman, of living in a semi tenement slum, a bad parent and everything else. But instead of arguing about someone else’s success under a fake name, do it as Alan.

    It all reeks of jealousy.

    The truth will set you free Alan.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Nobody on these boards has the perspective of context, historical detail, and (whether he knows it or not) shared social networks that I have regarding "Rob Singer." "Singer" and I haunted Las Vegas in the 90's on roughly the same gambling and notoriety level. If you sit back and look at the details of his relationships in LV, it's pretty easy to figure things out. What seem to be big mysteries, the "Why didn't he do it this way?" or "Where did the money go?" or "Why is he living in an RV?" or "You mean nobody called him on it while in progress?" questions seem superficially baffling. They are actually what one would expect if you figured things out.

    He pulled the classic Uri Geller on Alan Mendelson, which is the way these things always turn out.

    It's a shame Mendelson pulled the "Singer" stories from the site, because it was crystal clear, whether "Singer" realized it or not, that "Singer" did not discover the double up bug. There are toes I don't want to step on here, so I'll let it go at that. Some of the older crowd can connect the dots and figure it out. There are reasons "Singer" would have executed this bug and now be broke. And yes, "discover" and "execute" are two different words.
    It's crystal clear that Rob didn't discover the double up bug? Wow. You know that but haven't tried to claim the reward I posted, what, more than a year ago, for information that Rob didn't discover it. Damn, redietz. That would have been some easy money for you. The gambling world is a small world. Everybody seems to know everybody or know of everybody. This person that taught Rob the glitch. Who is he? How come he has remained silent? You must know him. Any chance you can get him to spill the beans?

    Rob knows more about the double up bug than anyone on the internet. He knew that the published sequence of events were wrong. He publicly retirned as a professional gambler in 2009 when the double up bug got discovered by the casinos. If only this person that taught rob the glitch would come forward and collect the reward....

    Redietz it looks like you've bought into the "Rob is broke" routine hook line & sinker. I think all the evidence points the other way. We all had a lot of fun pretending Rob was broke. It was a way to get back at him. But people that own RV's aren't the broke kind. No one has ever put up any evidence of Rob being on the skids.
    Well, here's a "post" that's ripe for the picking. I mean, from a guy who hangs on every word from a "nut" like Trump. A guy still(?) waiting for a "breaking" story about how none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracted the virus. A guy who used to vehemently back up KJ's gambling "exploits". I mean, holy fuck, don't forget that this is a gambling board. We are living the future in the past.
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    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

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    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If Alan was any type of investigative reporter who knew his stuff, he'd have completely reviewed what I wrote on this forum about having been contacted by IGT months ago. He might also be able to deduce why things are as they are now. Andrew/Alan will keep the nonsense going, and the majority of his posts will continue to be about me for a while. He's been wounded, and that's what these people do. Don't doubt for a minute Dan doesn't really know what's what. Everybody else knows also. You're a bad spoofer Alan.
    Mr Singer you have an answer for every question. But just end the questions by showing some proof.
    Name the form of proof that would be acceptable to you.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by LMR View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Nobody on these boards has the perspective of context, historical detail, and (whether he knows it or not) shared social networks that I have regarding "Rob Singer." "Singer" and I haunted Las Vegas in the 90's on roughly the same gambling and notoriety level. If you sit back and look at the details of his relationships in LV, it's pretty easy to figure things out. What seem to be big mysteries, the "Why didn't he do it this way?" or "Where did the money go?" or "Why is he living in an RV?" or "You mean nobody called him on it while in progress?" questions seem superficially baffling. They are actually what one would expect if you figured things out.

    He pulled the classic Uri Geller on Alan Mendelson, which is the way these things always turn out.

    It's a shame Mendelson pulled the "Singer" stories from the site, because it was crystal clear, whether "Singer" realized it or not, that "Singer" did not discover the double up bug. There are toes I don't want to step on here, so I'll let it go at that. Some of the older crowd can connect the dots and figure it out. There are reasons "Singer" would have executed this bug and now be broke. And yes, "discover" and "execute" are two different words.
    It's crystal clear that Rob didn't discover the double up bug? Wow. You know that but haven't tried to claim the reward I posted, what, more than a year ago, for information that Rob didn't discover it. Damn, redietz. That would have been some easy money for you. The gambling world is a small world. Everybody seems to know everybody or know of everybody. This person that taught Rob the glitch. Who is he? How come he has remained silent? You must know him. Any chance you can get him to spill the beans?

    Rob knows more about the double up bug than anyone on the internet. He knew that the published sequence of events were wrong. He publicly retirned as a professional gambler in 2009 when the double up bug got discovered by the casinos. If only this person that taught rob the glitch would come forward and collect the reward....

    Redietz it looks like you've bought into the "Rob is broke" routine hook line & sinker. I think all the evidence points the other way. We all had a lot of fun pretending Rob was broke. It was a way to get back at him. But people that own RV's aren't the broke kind. No one has ever put up any evidence of Rob being on the skids.
    Well, here's a "post" that's ripe for the picking. I mean, from a guy who hangs on every word from a "nut" like Trump. A guy still(?) waiting for a "breaking" story about how none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracted the virus. A guy who used to vehemently back up KJ's gambling "exploits". I mean, holy fuck, don't forget that this is a gambling board. We are living the future in the past.
    You prove you are retarded with every post. A "nut" cannot get themselves elected president. But a nut can call the president a "nut." That's all thats going on here. Yes, I'm still waiting on a breaking story that there is a successfull treatment for coronavirus. Only a "nut" like you wouldn't be. I still back KJ's claim of making a living playing blackjack. He has a most believable story.

    Yes, this is a gambling board. How much have you written about gambling? I've written a ton about it on this site. It's all in the archives. Do you even gamble. No one would know you do from what you write. How 'bout you give us some insight into your gambling strategies. Or do you have any? You're most likely just a ploppie with no rhyme or reason.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by LMR View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    It's crystal clear that Rob didn't discover the double up bug? Wow. You know that but haven't tried to claim the reward I posted, what, more than a year ago, for information that Rob didn't discover it. Damn, redietz. That would have been some easy money for you. The gambling world is a small world. Everybody seems to know everybody or know of everybody. This person that taught Rob the glitch. Who is he? How come he has remained silent? You must know him. Any chance you can get him to spill the beans?

    Rob knows more about the double up bug than anyone on the internet. He knew that the published sequence of events were wrong. He publicly retirned as a professional gambler in 2009 when the double up bug got discovered by the casinos. If only this person that taught rob the glitch would come forward and collect the reward....

    Redietz it looks like you've bought into the "Rob is broke" routine hook line & sinker. I think all the evidence points the other way. We all had a lot of fun pretending Rob was broke. It was a way to get back at him. But people that own RV's aren't the broke kind. No one has ever put up any evidence of Rob being on the skids.
    Well, here's a "post" that's ripe for the picking. I mean, from a guy who hangs on every word from a "nut" like Trump. A guy still(?) waiting for a "breaking" story about how none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracted the virus. A guy who used to vehemently back up KJ's gambling "exploits". I mean, holy fuck, don't forget that this is a gambling board. We are living the future in the past.
    You prove you are retarded with every post. A "nut" cannot get themselves elected president. But a nut can call the president a "nut." That's all thats going on here. Yes, I'm still waiting on a breaking story that there is a successfull treatment for coronavirus. Only a "nut" like you wouldn't be. I still back KJ's claim of making a living playing blackjack. He has a most believable story.

    Yes, this is a gambling board. How much have you written about gambling? I've written a ton about it on this site. It's all in the archives. Do you even gamble. No one would know you do from what you write. How 'bout you give us some insight into your gambling strategies. Or do you have any? You're most likely just a ploppie with no rhyme or reason.
    PS: It's because of idiots like you that I don't write much about gambling anymore. Why should I teach a bag of shit how to make money when all he is going to do is insult me for it?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by LMR View Post
    Well, here's a "post" that's ripe for the picking. I mean, from a guy who hangs on every word from a "nut" like Trump. A guy still(?) waiting for a "breaking" story about how none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracted the virus. A guy who used to vehemently back up KJ's gambling "exploits". I mean, holy fuck, don't forget that this is a gambling board. We are living the future in the past.
    You prove you are retarded with every post. A "nut" cannot get themselves elected president. But a nut can call the president a "nut." That's all thats going on here. Yes, I'm still waiting on a breaking story that there is a successfull treatment for coronavirus. Only a "nut" like you wouldn't be. I still back KJ's claim of making a living playing blackjack. He has a most believable story.

    Yes, this is a gambling board. How much have you written about gambling? I've written a ton about it on this site. It's all in the archives. Do you even gamble. No one would know you do from what you write. How 'bout you give us some insight into your gambling strategies. Or do you have any? You're most likely just a ploppie with no rhyme or reason.
    PS: It's because of idiots like you that I don't write much about gambling anymore. Why should I teach a bag of shit how to make money when all he is going to do is insult me for it?
    Mickey, don't keep insulting yourself.
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    Shut it down, LMR. = Low Mind thRust, (invar.)

    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by LMR View Post
    Well, here's a "post" that's ripe for the picking. I mean, from a guy who hangs on every word from a "nut" like Trump. A guy still(?) waiting for a "breaking" story about how none of 14,000 Lupus patients contracted the virus. A guy who used to vehemently back up KJ's gambling "exploits". I mean, holy fuck, don't forget that this is a gambling board. We are living the future in the past.
    You prove you are retarded with every post. A "nut" cannot get themselves elected president. But a nut can call the president a "nut." That's all thats going on here. Yes, I'm still waiting on a breaking story that there is a successfull treatment for coronavirus. Only a "nut" like you wouldn't be. I still back KJ's claim of making a living playing blackjack. He has a most believable story.

    Yes, this is a gambling board. How much have you written about gambling? I've written a ton about it on this site. It's all in the archives. Do you even gamble. No one would know you do from what you write. How 'bout you give us some insight into your gambling strategies. Or do you have any? You're most likely just a ploppie with no rhyme or reason.
    PS: It's because of idiots like you that I don't write much about gambling anymore. Why should I teach a bag of shit how to make money when all he is going to do is insult me for it?
    Mickey, you can’t let one or two goofballs or trolls get under your skin. There are always going to be a couple of those on any forum.

    Without the bomb throwers like MWP, the who know what throwers like Tasha, the trying to sound intellectual but not knowing he’s throwing like LMR, the random trolls, etc., forums would be boring.

    With all this dead time, I have been spending time on the internet and rereading some of the text from my AP “friend” trying to understand slot advantage plays. If nothing else it should give me some cover and free comps when I’m in casinos. You don’t get many free comps playing blackjack. Also, I do go to a casino sometimes with my girl and she likes slot play so I could at least set her up on an advantage slot play.

    So I would be interested in learning more about slots. Where do you advise I look? Should I just type in “slot advantage” in the search bar here to find old threads on slot advantage plays? I know I said slots aren’t my cup of tea, but I’d like to at least understand them better.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    One source that is helpful is www.advantageslots.com. If I remember correctly, MC was one of the first to recommend this website. The author has not posted anything in the last six months but many of the machines he reviews are still in the casinos Be sure to read a number of the articles as, the more you read, the more you understand the analysis/method of slot advantage play.

    While I generally play VP and BJ, I am reviewing the slots more and more when I am in the casinos.

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    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    One source that is helpful is www.advantageslots.com. If I remember correctly, MC was one of the first to recommend this website. The author has not posted anything in the last six months but many of the machines he reviews are still in the casinos Be sure to read a number of the articles as, the more you read, the more you understand the analysis/method of slot advantage play.

    While I generally play VP and BJ, I am reviewing the slots more and more when I am in the casinos.
    Thanks! This is helpful.

    I had found that site the other day and spent some time on it, but now hat I know it’s legitimate, I’ll be spending more time on it.

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    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Mickey, you can’t let one or two goofballs or trolls get under your skin. There are always going to be a couple of those on any forum.

    Without the bomb throwers like MWP, the who know what throwers like Tasha, the trying to sound intellectual but not knowing he’s throwing like LMR, the random trolls, etc., forums would be boring.
    Ah, this is a Singer topic thread, about what to believe, and what not to believe. Maybe, it is actually trolling to go on with stuff like...

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    With all this dead time, I have been spending time on the internet and rereading some of the text from my AP “friend” trying to understand slot advantage plays. If nothing else it should give me some cover and free comps when I’m in casinos. You don’t get many free comps playing blackjack. Also, I do go to a casino sometimes with my girl and she likes slot play so I could at least set her up on an advantage slot play.

    So I would be interested in learning more about slots. Where do you advise I look? Should I just type in “slot advantage” in the search bar here to find old threads on slot advantage plays? I know I said slots aren’t my cup of tea, but I’d like to at least understand them better.

    Thanks in advance for any help!
    Gee, maybe, Dan Druff can delete also the last few posts in this thread.
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    Shut it down, LMR. = Low Mind thRust, (invar.)

    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

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    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    If Alan was any type of investigative reporter who knew his stuff, he'd have completely reviewed what I wrote on this forum about having been contacted by IGT months ago. He might also be able to deduce why things are as they are now. Andrew/Alan will keep the nonsense going, and the majority of his posts will continue to be about me for a while. He's been wounded, and that's what these people do. Don't doubt for a minute Dan doesn't really know what's what. Everybody else knows also. You're a bad spoofer Alan.
    Mr Singer you have an answer for every question. But just end the questions by showing some proof.
    Why does anyone who LIES with every post on who they are deserve any respect or answers?

    You deserve all the negative responses you are getting.

    For once in your life Alan be honest and admit who you are. If you have an issue with Dan or anyone else than put it out there. It’s embarrassing you are using Axel and anyone else as a go between. And quite honestly I think it’s beneath him to be used as your tool.

    I get it’s tough being accused on being broke, a gambling addict, a failed businessman, of living in a semi tenement slum, a bad parent and everything else. But instead of arguing about someone else’s success under a fake name, do it as Alan.

    It all reeks of jealousy.

    The truth will set you free Alan.
    Starting a thread like this about a potential movie screams Alan loud and clear.

    He's got himself trapped this time, and with no way out other than the humiliating route. But would just admitting he's Andrew really be any more pubicly humiliating for him than his own son coming on and exposing how he stiffed him money for work he did, while pouring it all into the poker machines instead? That's about as low a blow as can be doled out on any forum anywhere.

    I feel for him. But as he liked saying about me in the past, he's his own worst enemy here. If I were him I'd cold-turkey myself off of the gambling forums scene and live a life completely independent from them. Let people say what they want. Who cares? Everybody has problems of one sort or another. For some reason he wanted us to see him hit rock bottom. Now he tries to hide.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post

    Mr Singer you have an answer for every question. But just end the questions by showing some proof.
    Why does anyone who LIES with every post on who they are deserve any respect or answers?

    You deserve all the negative responses you are getting.

    For once in your life Alan be honest and admit who you are. If you have an issue with Dan or anyone else than put it out there. It’s embarrassing you are using Axel and anyone else as a go between. And quite honestly I think it’s beneath him to be used as your tool.

    I get it’s tough being accused on being broke, a gambling addict, a failed businessman, of living in a semi tenement slum, a bad parent and everything else. But instead of arguing about someone else’s success under a fake name, do it as Alan.

    It all reeks of jealousy.

    The truth will set you free Alan.
    Starting a thread like this about a potential movie screams Alan loud and clear.

    He's got himself trapped this time, and with no way out other than the humiliating route. But would just admitting he's Andrew really be any more pubicly humiliating for him than his own son coming on and exposing how he stiffed him money for work he did, while pouring it all into the poker machines instead? That's about as low a blow as can be doled out on any forum anywhere.

    I feel for him. But as he liked saying about me in the past, he's his own worst enemy here. If I were him I'd cold-turkey myself off of the gambling forums scene and live a life completely independent from them. Let people say what they want. Who cares? Everybody has problems of one sort or another. For some reason he wanted us to see him hit rock bottom. Now he tries to hide.
    YES, Rob, Andrew is Alan. Get over it! We all know that and have known that for some time. I had hoped that he would take this opportunity to come clean and try to move forward. But he doesn't want to or can't bring himself to do that, so we will have to endure these Alan troll games of starting threads like this. He isn't "trapped". He is trolling! And apparently with Dan's blessing. Even if there was no formal agreement, or even initial knowledge by Dan Druff, the fact that he is now looking the other way while Alan flaunts the no sock-puppet rule is very disturbing.

    Dan Druff has always told us and demonstrated that he is one of the best in identifying sock puppets, even when people are using software to hide it. And now we are supposed to believe that he just can't figure out if this is or isn't Alan. The fact is Dan plays all of us for a fool in the way he runs this forum. He isn't serious about it, so why should any one else be.

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    sock puppet

    noun

    1. a simple hand puppet made from a sock.

    2. a false online identity, typically created by a person or group in order to promote their own opinions or views.

    "Both sides in the debate use sock puppets to make it seem as if scores of people are arguing a point".
    Honestly, I don't think that Alan is either promoting himself, or being scores of his own people to agree with.

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    555 = 111 + 4*111 = 15*37, or 37*15, as 153, and 7, or, 371, and 5. As 153 on 371, to 5/7 left, as 6 +/- 1.

    3/21 to 8/22 is 153 + 1 days. 321 = 107*3 + 0; 123 = 3*71 + 0. To 1/0. 822 = (-1 + 7)(37 + 100); 228 = 57[6 - (1 + 1)], ---> 11411. 15[3^2] = 153 + (5 + 1). 154 days is ~ 42.08% of year 2020. 451 = 11*41^1.

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    Originally Posted by LMR View Post

    Honestly, I don't think that Alan is either promoting himself, or being scores of his own people to agree with.
    You are correct. Alan's use of a sock puppet is not the traditional use of making it seem like there are more people agreeing with or supporting one side of an argument or discussion, as Rob and other banned members of this forum have done in the past. But the fact is the rule is no sock puppets. And although it usually takes a little nudging of Dan Druff, he has been pretty consistent in enforcing the rule. Now because it is Alan, Dan is just going to look the other way and say "I don't know if it is or isn't".

    Is it too much to ask for a little consistency? I mean you allow this from Alan, then how do you say no when the next guy creates a sockpuppet, pretending to be a female realtor in Arizona (Rob), or a female girlfriend praising a member (moses)? You look the other way on this, then don't you have to allow a 100 different Tasha sockpuppets?

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    I am not trying to be mean to Alan. Alan can be a good contributor, when he sets aside any biases that he may have and participates objectively. I also enjoy some of his gambling experiences that he shares, as I do with most people, AP or recreational gambler.

    But Alan also has a darker side and I am not referring to any kind of gambling problem. Once he decides to challenge or question someone, he throws all objectively (and honesty and integrity) out the window. He becomes extremely biased and will stoop to any level. I have witnessed and been victim to this several times. And once he gets into this mode, there is no turning back. He will hold a grudge and be out to "get" you for a very long time. It is Rob who is currently in Alan's sights and that is playing out now.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Is it too much to ask for a little consistency? I mean you allow this from Alan, then how do you say no when the next guy creates a sockpuppet, pretending to be a female realtor in Arizona (Rob), or a female girlfriend praising a member (moses)? You look the other way on this, then don't you have to allow a 100 different Tasha sockpuppets?
    You make a good point Kj. Thanks for reminding us about all those past sockpuppets. Those were the good ‘ol days. I miss all those stockpuppets, including Spiderman. Lol.

    Maybe the rules should change? They could read something like you can have a couple sockpuppets as long as they aren’t mean or trolling sockpuppets. Basically, if you have a sockpuppet, you’ve got to keep it under control.

    Maybe just limit it to one or two sockpuppets per person. As for me, sockpuppets are too much work...and they are also currently against the rules, and being a Repblican I try to follow all the rules and laws.

    But I am starting to get why someone would want one, and their intent would not be malicious.

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