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  1. #121
    I have 35 years of tax returns in orange shoe boxes in my basement. The boxes are 9 by 13 inches, hence they do not take up significant room. Yes, my returns are complicated, hence the slight inconvenience of a few athletic cardboard quadrants.

  2. #122
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    And has he posted about this consistently without contradiction over the years?
    This forum doesn't have an emoji that is laughing hard enough. Consistent, without contradiction.

  3. #123
    What I haven't figured out...is what J's purpose is at this, or any forum? He's a little like the lilies of the field in that he neither toils nor spins, but unlike the lilies of the Bible, he has no glory.

    If Rob has an idea that has been presented, consistently, let's hear it.


    In any case, there are no contradictions in anything I have posted. If I have said that I won such and such on such date, I haven't ever come back later with a different figure. It's all consistent. If J wishes to point one contradiction out, I'll listen.
    Last edited by MDawg; 04-29-2020 at 11:46 PM.
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  4. #124
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    She probably works a double -- day shift in The Den of Pure Envy and nights at The Green Door.
    Gay Activism and the Green Door... it all makes sense now.

    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    That's not for you to say.

    Wives are a social construct, children are blood...big difference, to us fathers anyway.
    Social Construct huh??
    It seems to me that something more serious than social construct happens to a husband and wife (man and woman).
    It appears they become One Flesh (Blood) according to these verses...


    Genesis 2:24
    24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

    Matthew 19:5
    5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    Mark 10:8
    8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

    Ephesians 5:31
    31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
    Last edited by monet; 04-29-2020 at 11:44 PM.

  5. #125
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    She probably works a double -- day shift in The Den of Pure Envy and nights at The Green Door.
    Gay Activism and the Green Door... it all makes sense now.

    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    That's not for you to say.

    Wives are a social construct, children are blood...big difference, to us fathers anyway.
    Social Construct huh??
    It seems to me that something more serious than social construct happens to a husband and wife (man and woman).
    It appears they become One Flesh (Blood) according to these verses...


    Genesis 2:24
    24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

    Matthew 19:5
    5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    Mark 10:8
    8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

    Ephesians 5:31
    31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
    Euphemism sexy time cream pie. Beast two backs.

  6. #126
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    In this message Alan said he didn't know about Andrew because he had been off the forum for many months because Dan wouldn't pay Jason the proper amount for the forum license. He said Jason and him didn't want to contribute to Dan's traffic.
    The above portion of mickeycrimm's original post got overlooked because of all the Singer drama also contained within.

    But now that Alan has been running around telling several people about how I "took advantage" of Jason, it's time to tell a story I really didn't want to tell. Like the rest of you, I saw their financial and familial problems play out here. I knew they were struggling. I didn't want to kick either of them while they were having more important life issues.

    Therefore, I kept my mouth shut about something which made me quite unhappy.

    Simply put, no good deed goes unpunished.


    Background

    I took over technical administration of the forum in 2013. I did this because Alan was having lots of trouble with the forum service he was using, to the point where even outgoing e-mail didn't work, so nobody could be e-mail verified, and the place got overrun by spambots. Alan handed over the technical reins to me, but he made all administrative decisions. I was just the tech monkey keeping it running smoothly (and also a frequent forum poster, as I had been before).

    In February 2016, Alan sent me a message telling me to shut down the forum. He said it was a tremendous headache for little return, and that it was causing him some unspecified "legal liability" he didn't want. I tried to talk him out of it, but he was clearly fed up and ready to shut it down. I offered to take it off his hands, and he agreed. His only condition? That I transfer the forum to a different domain name, and rename it to where it's no longer associated with "Alan Best Buys". I agreed, and Vegas Casino Talk was born.

    On February 22, 2016, the ownership transfer officially took place.


    The License

    However, there was still the matter of the forum license. See, this forum uses vBulletin software, which requires a license. The license is a one-time payment, and then you own it in perpetuity. The cost of a license is low -- usually around $125-$200. Fortunately, the forum already had a license. Jason Mendelson, Alan's son, had purchased one when they started the Alan Best Buys forum in 2010. Therefore, since the Alan Best Buys Forum had become Vegas Casino Talk, a new license was not required. That transfers, as well. (Basically vBulletin's license terms require you to have one license per forum, but you don't need to get a new license if you take over an existing licensed forum, as I did.)

    For that reason, I didn't worry about the license. The vBulletin license was still in Jason's name, which always bothered me a bit. It was also an easy fix. All I had to do was go to vBulletin and buy a new license for Vegas Casino Talk, and replace the existing one. However, doing so seemed incredibly wasteful since we already had a perfectly good license. I figured I'd just stick with what we had, as it wasn't causing any problems.

    Then Jason and Alan had that public and ugly blowout here, over money. Jason admitted in that whole exchange that he was struggling financially, and Alan also claimed the same. I felt bad for both of them. Sometime shortly after that, I thought about the license.

    I realized I could help. Instead of sending money to vBulletin for a new license, perhaps I could help Jason out by buying the existing license from him at existing vBulletin pricing. This way, I'd be giving the money to him instead of vBulletin, and I'd finally have the software license under my own name.

    Once again, keep in mind that the license itself was worth very little. I could have bought my own. The legal ownership of the forum and its content was already mine (for 3 years) by that point. There was just the matter of the vBulletin license -- worth $125-$200 or so. I just wanted to help out and give that money to Jason instead. There was also zero urgency on my end to do this. I could have done this any time, and Jason hadn't contacted me at any point about this site using the software license in his name. He can't even deny knowing the forum existed, or that I owned it, because he had already posted here about his issues with Alan.

    My offer was simple: I would give him the amount of whatever the license was currently worth (meaning the cost of a new one), plus any transfer fees.



    I Get the Shaft for my Generosity

    Laughably, he came back with $550 -- a number WAY too high.
    I was being gouged! This wasn't a negotiation session -- he tried to trick me into overpaying! I didn't appreciate this one bit.

    I was super close at that point to telling him to stuff it, and that I'd just buy it myself. However, I knew the guy was desperate for money, and instead I simply told him I knew $550 wasn't the license's value (at any point in history). Then he tried to quote me another ridiculous price like $350. The true price of a vBulletin license at the time, as it turns out, was $195. Since the cost of a license transfer was $45, I offered $240, and told him I wouldn't pay a penny more. Why should I? I was doing him a favor in the first place. I could have bought my own license from vBulletin for $195, and saved the $45 transfer fee!

    He then complained that it "wasn't my dad's to sell you in the first place", but notice he didn't object to this "sale" for 3 years, because in reality Jason wanted nothing to do with the forum at that point, and hadn't even thought about it in ages. He was only raising the issue because I approached him about the license, which I didn't even need to do!

    Then, strangely enough he said he'd sell it for $250 ($10 over the $195 + $45 transfer fee), but I had to "turn on the profantiy filter". What?? Why did he care about that? I refused. I told him I would continue to run it as-is, and would send $240 exactly. He reluctantly agreed.

    The fact that Alan is pissed about this is mind-boggling. I was doing Jason a FAVOR because I knew he was having financial problems, and he attempted to overcharge me, hoping I didn't realize the true cost of a license. Then he claimed that the forum was transferred to me without his knowledge, but that's ALAN'S fault if it's really true, so how could Alan be mad at ME about it??

    Finally, be aware that Jason never tried to justify the $550 he asked for by saying something like, "Hey, my dad transferred ownership to you 3 years ago without asking me, could you throw in a little extra please?"

    I clearly offered to pay the amount the license cost plus the transfer fee, and his response was, "Sure, it's $550. Here's my PayPal." It was definitely an attempt to deceive me.

    I look forward to hearing Alan's side of this story. Apparently he's harbored resentment over this for quite some time, which I don't understand at all.
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  7. #127
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    What I haven't figured out...is what J's purpose is at this, or any forum? He's a little like the lilies of the field in that he neither toils nor spins, but unlike the lilies of the Bible, he has no glory.

    If Rob has an idea that has been presented, consistently, let's hear it.


    In any case, there are no contradictions in anything I have posted. If I have said that I won such and such on such date, I haven't ever come back later with a different figure. It's all consistent. If J wishes to point one contradiction out, I'll listen.
    MDawg, I didn't say there were contradictions or inconsistencies in YOUR posts or claims. You asked if Rob's claims were inconsistent and had changed over the years and I responded with my laughing emoji post because Rob's claims have changed a hundred times over the years, Had nothing to do with you or your claims, I was answering about Rob's claims which is what you asked about.

    Your response was that you flew off the handle and started calling me names. I appreciate that you edited and toned it down a bit.

    You asked who I am and being that you are fairly new here and maybe haven't gone back and read the archives, I will share a bit of history of myself and this forum.

    I am and AP. I play blackjack for a living, supporting myself solely from that for 16 years now since I was 21. I am not wealthy like it appears you are, but I make a comfortable living for me. And as an AP, I believe in the math. For a player to win longterm, over many years he has to be playing a +EV game or doing something that turns the game +EV. Anyone claiming otherwise is full of crap.

    I don't call out every person on forums that makes such claims, but I do call out people that take it to a level where they are misleading and influencing other players. I just don't like that. While it is every person's responsibility to figure out for themselves who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking, every once in a while someone like Singer comes along, with not only a claim that can't be but a background story, and alternative math. The whole works. Those people I will challenge. Singer was the second such person I did.

    When I got here several years ago Singers claim was that he played Video poker for a living from 2000-2009. Not playing with an advantage as a number of players and members here do, but by using proven voodoo things like progressive wagering and "special plays". His claim was that he made a million dollars over 10 years. Then he started listing amounts for houses and RV and stuff and that claim magically grew to about 1.5 million over 10 years.

    So next thing we know about a year ago, Singer claims he played the double-up bug, which was a manipulation of a machine to allow a player to win jackpots he was otherwise not entitled to. The double up bug had been in the news and Now Singer was claiming that for his own. So his new claim was that he played this double up bug from 2004 through 2009 which is when the guys in the news article got busted. After a decade of his original claim, Singers new claim was that he had made 2.8 million playing the double up bug.

    Now if you look at the dates, you see the conflict with his initial claim which he had made for years. So at that point he altered his initial claim involving his progressive system from it's original 2000-2009, million dollars, to 2000-2004, and 375k.

    So that is the big conflict and contradictions to Singers claim. There are many, many more big and small about all sorts of claims and attacks that including attacks on 3 different members here and how their spouses died Singer claiming suicides and aids and things that are just blatantly false.

    Now if you are not aware of Alan's involvement, this site was started and formerly owned by Alan Mendelson. He sold it to Dan Druff sometime before I began participating here. But during my time here, Alan had been Singer's biggest cheerleader and supporter. Whenver someone challenged the mathematics of Singers claims, Alan was there to support Singer. Alan even posted Videos of Singer's so called system and had extensive write-ups on Alan's website. Like I said he was Singer's biggest supporter. Now Alan is claiming that Singer confided in him a year ago and told him that his initial system was all a lie. Alan is claiming he feels he was duped. I mean there was only about 15 people on this forum, including all the AP's that tried for years to get Alan to understand the math. he chose to believe Singer and not the math.

    But whatever, apparently Alan now regrets his support of Singer and wants the world to know that Singer "duped' him and that his claim was BS, which most players already know. I am not sure Alan is being truthful for his reasons, but most of what he is saying is true. Now giving Alan credit where credit is due, I want to close with a partial quote from one of Alan's posts tonight at WoV because frankly it is probably the single best thing Alan has ever posted and sums up this whole Singer situation.

    What was missing was the proof of his claims but I trusted him and his explanations. The first time I did a video shoot with him at the Hard Rock I saw how he was treated and how he interacted with the manager there. Rob also arranged the logistics of the shoot there. That impressed me and also made me believe and trust him otherwise he wouldn't have been treated the way he was.

    This continued for about ten years until his confession. That made me reexamine the big missing link: no proof. Always an explanation but never proof.

  8. #128
    Regarding Rob, while the double-up-bug story is interesting to debate, the point is now moot from a legal perspective.

    The statute of limitations has run out to prosecute Rob for this, and the statute of limitations for Alan to sue Rob for lying to him (which would be a stretch anyway) has also run out.

    This isn't like a murder case. The statute of limitations for nonviolent criminal matters and civil matters tends to be fairly short.
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  9. #129
    I should also point out that, like my Pokerfraudalert forum, this place runs AT A LOSS.

    Notice there are no ads here. Not one. Zero. Zilch.

    So clearly I'm not getting rich off of this, and I didn't take advantage of poor Jason so I could greedily expand my lucrative forum empire.

    I am running this forum because I got to enjoy it over time, and don't want to see it die. I tried to do Jason a favor by buying a license from him (which was absolutely useless to him at that point), instead of buying a new one for myself. I was even willing to pay $45 more to buy it from him rather than vBulletin, due to the transfer fee. I still wanted to do it because I wanted to help.

    Now I'm being portrayed by Alan as a greedy asshole who cheated his son.

    What a chump I turned out to be.
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  10. #130
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Regarding Rob, while the double-up-bug story is interesting to debate, the point is now moot from a legal perspective.

    The statute of limitations has run out to prosecute Rob for this, and the statute of limitations for Alan to sue Rob for lying to him (which would be a stretch anyway) has also run out.

    This isn't like a murder case. The statute of limitations for nonviolent criminal matters and civil matters tends to be fairly short.
    I think there is a bigger issue than the statute of limitations. For a decade Rob's existence here was his progressive strategy claim that he claims he played for 10 years to the tune of over a million dollars. All the challenges and name-calling were about that claim. The math guys saying it couldn't be so. You, yourself weighted in several times and while you didn't use the word "impossible" like I have, you indicated from a mathematically viewpoint Rob's claim was very unlikely. Actually I think you used language even a little stronger than that.

    So now Alan is claiming that Rob confided in him that this initial claim was a lie. That is sort of a big deal isn't it? I mean it isn't your responsibility to check out every person and their claims and stories. But for 10 years Rob turned this forum into a cesspool with all the name calling based on challenges to his claim, that Alan says Rob confided in him that was all made up. That doesn't bother you Dan?

  11. #131
    Mr Dan, did Mr Alan pay you a fee to administer the forum for him? What was your monthly charge?

    What did you pay Mr Alan for the forum? Nothing, is that correct?

    Did Mr Alan tell you he wanted the forum taken down because he was disgusted with the personal attacks on him, his family and others, and didn't want any liability for those attacks?

    Mr Dan, did you tell Mr Alan not to take down the forum because you wanted your many articles preserved?

    Did you tell Mr Alan when you changed the name to VCT from the Alan Best Buys Forum that you would stop the hate posts that targeted Mr Alan?

    When Mr Jason asked you to pay for the license did he tell you he paid for certain upgrades and the investment he made was higher than what you offered?

    When Mr Jason asked you to apply the "filter" wasn't it made clear to you that Mr Jason wanted you to stop the attacks on his father, something you had said you would do?

    Answer carefully Mr Dan.

  12. #132
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr Dan, did Mr Alan pay you a fee to administer the forum for him? What was your monthly charge?

    What did you pay Mr Alan for the forum? Nothing, is that correct?

    Did Mr Alan tell you he wanted the forum taken down because he was disgusted with the personal attacks on him, his family and others, and didn't want any liability for those attacks?

    Mr Dan, did you tell Mr Alan not to take down the forum because you wanted your many articles preserved?

    Did you tell Mr Alan when you changed the name to VCT from the Alan Best Buys Forum that you would stop the hate posts that targeted Mr Alan?

    When Mr Jason asked you to pay for the license did he tell you he paid for certain upgrades and the investment he made was higher than what you offered?

    When Mr Jason asked you to apply the "filter" wasn't it made clear to you that Mr Jason wanted you to stop the attacks on his father, something you had said you would do?

    Answer carefully Mr Dan.
    Glad your back Mr Andrew, your making things interesting over at WOV, things are heating up.

  13. #133
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Regarding Rob, while the double-up-bug story is interesting to debate, the point is now moot from a legal perspective.

    The statute of limitations has run out to prosecute Rob for this, and the statute of limitations for Alan to sue Rob for lying to him (which would be a stretch anyway) has also run out.

    This isn't like a murder case. The statute of limitations for nonviolent criminal matters and civil matters tends to be fairly short.
    I think there is a bigger issue than the statute of limitations. For a decade Rob's existence here was his progressive strategy claim that he claims he played for 10 years to the tune of over a million dollars. All the challenges and name-calling were about that claim. The math guys saying it couldn't be so. You, yourself weighted in several times and while you didn't use the word "impossible" like I have, you indicated from a mathematically viewpoint Rob's claim was very unlikely. Actually I think you used language even a little stronger than that.

    So now Alan is claiming that Rob confided in him that this initial claim was a lie. That is sort of a big deal isn't it? I mean it isn't your responsibility to check out every person and their claims and stories. But for 10 years Rob turned this forum into a cesspool with all the name calling based on challenges to his claim, that Alan says Rob confided in him that was all made up. That doesn't bother you Dan?
    Rob's history in the gambling forums goes back to the early 2000's. Probably to 2002 on vpFREE and FREEvpFREE. Also the Las Vegas Adviser Forums and others in the mid to late 2000's. Rob was one formidable troll in all that time. But guess what, in all that time Rob dealt with hundreds who were trolling him. Just one person taking all that flak and dishing it back.

    When guys like KJ and redietz jump on Rob for being a troll I'm thinking to myself geesh they are fricking trolls to. And they have the nerve to say its someone else doing the trolling? GTFO!!

    Let's see, we had Rob:

    Living in a trailer court
    Living in the driveway of his daughter's house
    Using electricity and water for his "camper trailer" from his daughter's house.
    On welfare and food stamps
    Couldn't pay his bills
    being evicted from a rental property
    living in someone else's house

    And this is just the start. So yeah, Rob did a lot of trolling. But in the gambling forums if you ask the question: Who is the most trolled member of the gambling forums? The answer would clearly be Rob Singer.

    I don't think anyone ever trolled each other any harder than Rob and I did. We said some pretty viscious things to each other. So if I blame Rob for it then I have to blame myself to because I willingly participated in it. What was all that trolling we did to each other all about? It was about two guys showing each other they can't be outdone. In other words, it was all BULLSHIT!!

    Now you notice that KJ and redietz never miss an opportunity to troll Rob. But according to them he's the only one doing the trolling. GTFO!!! They are trolls to but refuse to admit it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #134
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Well, mickey, I was hoping you'd say that. Interesting thing about the "Singer" origin story on Best Buys. There is no evidence to support it. None.
    Did you base your guarantee that the story is not true on that.
    In a word, no. But I hope you recognize that, based on your comments, Rob must also be a bald-faced liar since he offered no evidence. That bald-faced lying goes both ways. Or maybe with you it doesn't, eh?
    Redietz, your claim is that you have been a professional sports handicapper for 40 years. You have never put up any evidence of it. Should I believe your story without evidence? You tell me.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #135
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr Dan, did Mr Alan pay you a fee to administer the forum for him? What was your monthly charge?

    What did you pay Mr Alan for the forum? Nothing, is that correct?

    Did Mr Alan tell you he wanted the forum taken down because he was disgusted with the personal attacks on him, his family and others, and didn't want any liability for those attacks?

    Mr Dan, did you tell Mr Alan not to take down the forum because you wanted your many articles preserved?

    Did you tell Mr Alan when you changed the name to VCT from the Alan Best Buys Forum that you would stop the hate posts that targeted Mr Alan?

    When Mr Jason asked you to pay for the license did he tell you he paid for certain upgrades and the investment he made was higher than what you offered?

    When Mr Jason asked you to apply the "filter" wasn't it made clear to you that Mr Jason wanted you to stop the attacks on his father, something you had said you would do?

    Answer carefully Mr Dan.
    That's an incredible amount of knowledge you have about things only Alan Mendelson, his son, and Dan would know about. How did you come across all that knowledge? Alan told me that you two have talked. Did he really go that in depth? Did you really ask that many detailed questions?

    AndrewG, when are you going to join WoV and support your new found "friend," Alan Mendelson? Everyone would love to see you on that site. You could make a tremendous contribution. You have a knack for asking pertinent questons concerning Alan Mendelson. I'm sure he would love to see you join WoV and comment on his situation.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #136
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr Dan, did Mr Alan pay you a fee to administer the forum for him? What was your monthly charge?

    What did you pay Mr Alan for the forum? Nothing, is that correct?

    Did Mr Alan tell you he wanted the forum taken down because he was disgusted with the personal attacks on him, his family and others, and didn't want any liability for those attacks?

    Mr Dan, did you tell Mr Alan not to take down the forum because you wanted your many articles preserved?

    Did you tell Mr Alan when you changed the name to VCT from the Alan Best Buys Forum that you would stop the hate posts that targeted Mr Alan?

    When Mr Jason asked you to pay for the license did he tell you he paid for certain upgrades and the investment he made was higher than what you offered?

    When Mr Jason asked you to apply the "filter" wasn't it made clear to you that Mr Jason wanted you to stop the attacks on his father, something you had said you would do?

    Answer carefully Mr Dan.
    Alan, this is getting sad.

    Just admit it's you.
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  17. #137
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr Dan, did Mr Alan pay you a fee to administer the forum for him? What was your monthly charge?

    What did you pay Mr Alan for the forum? Nothing, is that correct?

    Did Mr Alan tell you he wanted the forum taken down because he was disgusted with the personal attacks on him, his family and others, and didn't want any liability for those attacks?

    Mr Dan, did you tell Mr Alan not to take down the forum because you wanted your many articles preserved?

    Did you tell Mr Alan when you changed the name to VCT from the Alan Best Buys Forum that you would stop the hate posts that targeted Mr Alan?

    When Mr Jason asked you to pay for the license did he tell you he paid for certain upgrades and the investment he made was higher than what you offered?

    When Mr Jason asked you to apply the "filter" wasn't it made clear to you that Mr Jason wanted you to stop the attacks on his father, something you had said you would do?

    Answer carefully Mr Dan.
    I am not going to answer any financial related questions involving my transactions with Alan Mendelson, if they are asked by a supposed third party. When actual "Alan" shows up, then we can discuss those type of topics.

    However, I will answer the other questions:


    "Did Mr Alan tell you he wanted the forum taken down because he was disgusted with the personal attacks on him, his family and others, and didn't want any liability for those attacks?"

    Alan told me he wanted to take down the forum because of some kind of undisclosed legal liability, and refused to go into details. I wasn't interested in pressing hard to find out the exact reason. Once it became clear that Alan was not interested in running the forum anymore and wanted it deleted, my next thought was to find a way to keep it running.



    "Mr Dan, did you tell Mr Alan not to take down the forum because you wanted your many articles preserved?"

    I never said that. I don't write "articles" here -- only posts. Much of what I write here becomes obsolete as casinos change things. I wanted the forum itself preserved, because I had participated in it actively for 3 years.



    "Did you tell Mr Alan when you changed the name to VCT from the Alan Best Buys Forum that you would stop the hate posts that targeted Mr Alan?"

    I didn't use the phrase "hate posts". I said that I would keep any pointless trolling of Alan to a minimum, and I did that. However, I made it clear to Alan that, as he was a frequent and often controversial poster on the forum, I was not going to protect him from negative or insulting responses to his provocative material. I also told him that I wasn't going to delete negative statements about him made by those he intentionally angered with his controversial posting style.



    "When Mr Jason asked you to pay for the license did he tell you he paid for certain upgrades and the investment he made was higher than what you offered?"

    He didn't give any justification. I said I'd pay for the current value of the license, and he quoted me $550 as if that was the value. Later, he claimed that he paid something like $280 for the license (which isn't true, because a standard vBulletin license has always been cheaper than that, to my knowledge). Even if $280 was correct, it still didn't explain why he was asking for double that, unless he was just trying to gouge me. There were no "upgrades" here when I showed up and took over the tech work in 2013. It was a standard vBulletin forum running on some awful forum service which didn't work right.



    "When Mr Jason asked you to apply the 'filter' wasn't it made clear to you that Mr Jason wanted you to stop the attacks on his father, something you had said you would do?"

    No, he mentioned nothing about his father. He mentioned only that he wanted the "profanity filter" turned on, and didn't explain why. I can post that e-mail if you want, but again, only once you identify yourself as Alan.
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  18. #138
    "once you identify yourself as Alan" LMFAO!!!

  19. #139
    Ok excellent, somebody at WoV posted a link to one of Rob's Gaming Today articles. Note the date of the article March 5, 2008. Read the article first and then the discussion.

    https://www.gamingtoday.com/poker/ar...egy_that_works

    So this is Rob's progressive wagering strategy. The strategy that his original claim said he played from 2000 to 2009, winning over a million dollars. And the timing works perfectly with that original claim. The math doesn't work but the timing does. In 2008 Rob was "pushing" this strategy in weekly columns at Gaming Today and pushing his books of the same strategy. THAT was his scam at the time, his troll at the time.

    Now according to his new claim of playing the double up bug from 2004-2009 to the tune of 2.8 million, the timing of this article would have been when he was actually playing the double up bug. So why the articles and books pushing the progressive strategy? Rob will tell you it was to throw people off his trail. That it was for "cover". But guess what if you are trying to lay low, you do so by just being quiet. No books or columns drawing attention.

    The fact is these columns and books in 2008 were promoting Rob's progressive system, because THAT WAS HIS SCAM AT THE TIME. He hadn't heard of Nester or Kane or the double up bug. He didn't learn about Nester, Kane and the double up bug until after the WIRED article came out years later. THAT is when Rob's whole story, scam and timeline changed. AND he had to go back and revise his earlier claims.

    This idea of publishing books and writing a column week after week to throw someone off the trail is just complete baloney. Anyone falling for this and not seeing how he went back and changed the claim and timeline way, way after the fact really is quite gullible. No wonder Rob has always refused to show any evidence. The evident clearly shows he is lying.

  20. #140
    Rob is a con man. Nothing more, nothing less. And like all good conmen, he can be pretty convincing. He can talk his way into and out of almost anything. Alan is now admitting that is what occurred with him. Rob talked a good story. But that's all it was....Talk. Whenever it came time for any kind of proof, Rob would never produce any, but always had answers as to why he couldn't. And that is still his M.O. today.

    I'll give him that he is a good con artist and troll for anyone admiring that sort of thing. But that is all he is.

    To use his own words: Wake Up people!

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