Alan Mendelson Going For The Jugular

[kewlJ]

I'm pulling out of the Shack interview? Gee, we contact each other every day, and Heather will be in touch asap.

Are you ever right? But please don't stop being wrong.

Did you already forget that you posted this just a few hours ago? Dementia must be a bitch.

I don't really care about this stuff much any longer and I'm not that interested in being interviewed by anybody.

But whatever, I am growing tired of advancing your agenda. You need a foil. You need someone to keep making you and your stupid claim that no one believes relevant. I am done with that. No one believes it, so again, good luck with your continuing troll, Singer.

[The Boz]

I'm pulling out of the Shack interview? Gee, we contact each other every day, and Heather will be in touch asap.

Are you ever right? But please don't stop being wrong.

Did you already forget that you posted this just a few hours ago? Dementia must be a bitch.

I don't really care about this stuff much any longer and I'm not that interested in being interviewed by anybody.

But whatever, I am growing tired of advancing your agenda. You need a foil. You need someone to keep making you and your stupid claim that no one believes relevant. I am done with that. No one believes it, so again, good luck with your continuing troll, Singer.

I haven’t been commenting much on this but have been following it. Only thing I have to say is.....

No, No you are not done with it. You will be all over it still. As for the no one believes it, you are wrong. Both Axel and Mickey believe there is a chance it happened. They are 2 of the most knowledgeable guys out there, so if they say it could have happened, I’ll stick with them.

As I’ve said before, Rob makes himself unlikable many times but I never doubted he has substantial assets.

And if he enjoys pissing you off, more power to him. We all chose to be here.

[AxelWolf]

Axel misrepresented my position on the DUB on WoV. My position has always been it is highly likely rob put down the play. Axel says I’m “convinced” rob put down the play. Way to strong a word. I’m not entirely convinced of anything. Only Rob knows 100% whether he did or not.

I'm sorry if it seemed like I overstated your position. I was under the impression you thought Rob played the double up bug. Would you like me to add a correction to what I said? If there's anything specific you would like me to say over at wizard of Vegas on your behalf, let me know, I'll gladly post it over there, if I get a suspension, I really don't care.

Yes, please change my position on WoV from "convinced" to "highly likely." And if you want to you can add my opinion is based on at least a few facts:

1. Rob's overall knowledge of the play, something that no one else on the internet has come close to matching.

2. The fact he knew the published sequence of events to get the machine to double up was wrong, and he published what he called the correct sequence of events. And after that fact KJ confirmed with the author of the Kane & Nestor story that the sequence was intentionally altered. No one has credibly disputed Rob's published sequence.

3. That Rob publicly "retired" from professional video poker play in 2009 a few months after Kane & Nestor got busted. Rob didn't quit playing video poker. What he did was quit filing schedule C on his income tax. He still played some over the years but basically made himself scarce in the casinos which is exactly what I would have done if I were waiting out the statute of limitations. Also, Rob never brought up the fact that he retired in 2009. It's because I've been following him so long that I remembered that about him and brought it up here. I'm the one that put it out there that Rob retired shortly after Kane & Nestor got busted. I thought, and still do, that it was more than coincidence.

4. Rob put this story out there knowing full well that if anyone else taught him the play then his story could easily be publicly shot down. I would not lie about something like this if I was fearful that someone could come forward and easily shoot my story down. It would be a tremendously stupid move and very embarrassing if caught. I think it has been over a year now and no one has come forward. I even put out a reward of $1000 for any good information anyone could provide that someone else knew the play before Rob.

I think it is highly likely Rob put the play down. But I am not 100% convinced . Only Rob knows 100% whether he did or not.

Done.

[kewlJ]

As I’ve said before, Rob makes himself unlikable many times

Why do you think this is Boz?

Answer: Rob seeks attention. Everything he does and says is about generating attention that he craves. If he were to come on this or any forum, as an experienced gambler and participate in a normal manner sharing his thoughts and experiences, winning and losing, he would just be another forum member. He needs much more that that. He needs the attention good or bad. He wants discussion to revolve around and be about him. He does that by saying and being as nasty as possible, as outrageous as possible. That is what gets people talking and laughing and draws the attention that he so desperately needs.

And once you accept this premise, then you should realize that everything out of his mouth is untrue and about generating that attention. Most of these attention seeking claims has been proven untrue over the years/decades because they defy the math. But once you realize that everything is about attention, then even when some claim comes along like this that doesn't defy the math, and technically is possible, you have remember that everything this guy has ever said and done on these forums is about one thing, generating the attention he so desperately craves.

None of this is new....it has been going on for 20 years. It is just as time goes on, each claim has to be bigger and grander and each attack more outrageous, to get the same attention. That is the way it works, unfortunately.


add on: need further proof. The guy has been caught multiple times posting phony pictures to back his phony claims. And although he hasn't done it too much recently because he gets caught every time he does, this guy is the King of sockpuppets. That is all about attention. When he can't get the attention he wants from real people, he uses make believe "people" to help.

[kewlJ]

Seriously, I can't tell if some of you people have fallen for this goofballs attention seeking bullshit for years now, or whether you know the truth but are just so amused watching it that you go along. Like I said recently. It is midget tossing. you know it's wrong but you don't want it to stop because it is so damn funny and amusing. I think THAT is what is at play here.

[Keystone]

Seriously, I can't tell if some of you people have fallen for this goofballs attention seeking bullshit for years now, or whether you know the truth but are just so amused watching it that you go along. Like I said recently. It is midget tossing. you know it's wrong but you don't want it to stop because it is so damn funny and amusing. I think THAT is what is at play here.

I think most people just don`t give a shit one way or the other....whether it`s true or not really makes no effect on anyone`s life. I don't really understand why it does on yours...as to your point above, you are correct. I think the back and forth is extremely funny...Rob knows without a shadow of a doubt that he gets under your skin

[AxelWolf]

I've been asked numerous times and even recently what the chances are that I think Rob actually played this.

I'm personally not going to publicly commit either way. I will say this... Rob is either genius, or he is full of s***.

The fact that he found it(I can't even remember how he claims he figured it out at this point)
Then he played it, went totally undetected by any authorities, casinos or other Advantage players, made Millions while he had the forethought to make sure there was no evidence whatsoever and he was able to make it appear on the public records that he doesn't have a lot and he was able to maneuver ownership of properties into family members names, save some money by filing bankruptcy(not sure if that was before or after, not know what she did have a career prior) Or whatever etc etc.

[mickeycrimm]

I'm sorry if it seemed like I overstated your position. I was under the impression you thought Rob played the double up bug. Would you like me to add a correction to what I said? If there's anything specific you would like me to say over at wizard of Vegas on your behalf, let me know, I'll gladly post it over there, if I get a suspension, I really don't care.

Yes, please change my position on WoV from "convinced" to "highly likely." And if you want to you can add my opinion is based on at least a few facts:

1. Rob's overall knowledge of the play, something that no one else on the internet has come close to matching.

2. The fact he knew the published sequence of events to get the machine to double up was wrong, and he published what he called the correct sequence of events. And after that fact KJ confirmed with the author of the Kane & Nestor story that the sequence was intentionally altered. No one has credibly disputed Rob's published sequence.

3. That Rob publicly "retired" from professional video poker play in 2009 a few months after Kane & Nestor got busted. Rob didn't quit playing video poker. What he did was quit filing schedule C on his income tax. He still played some over the years but basically made himself scarce in the casinos which is exactly what I would have done if I were waiting out the statute of limitations. Also, Rob never brought up the fact that he retired in 2009. It's because I've been following him so long that I remembered that about him and brought it up here. I'm the one that put it out there that Rob retired shortly after Kane & Nestor got busted. I thought, and still do, that it was more than coincidence.

4. Rob put this story out there knowing full well that if anyone else taught him the play then his story could easily be publicly shot down. I would not lie about something like this if I was fearful that someone could come forward and easily shoot my story down. It would be a tremendously stupid move and very embarrassing if caught. I think it has been over a year now and no one has come forward. I even put out a reward of $1000 for any good information anyone could provide that someone else knew the play before Rob.

I think it is highly likely Rob put the play down. But I am not 100% convinced . Only Rob knows 100% whether he did or not.

Done.

Thanks.

[mickeycrimm]

I've been asked numerous times and even recently what the chances are that I think Rob actually played this.

I'm personally not going to publicly commit either way. I will say this... Rob is either genius, or he is full of s***.

The fact that he found it(I can't even remember how he claims he figured it out at this point)
Then he played it, went totally undetected by any authorities, casinos or other Advantage players, made Millions while he had the forethought to make sure there was no evidence whatsoever and he was able to make it appear on the public records that he doesn't have a lot and he was able to maneuver ownership of properties into family members names, save some money by filing bankruptcy(not sure if that was before or after, not know what she did have a career prior) Or whatever etc etc.

The bankruptcy was in the mid nineties long before the DUB.

[mickeycrimm]

Axel misrepresented my position on the DUB on WoV. My position has always been it is highly likely rob put down the play. Axel says I’m “convinced” rob put down the play. Way to strong a word. I’m not entirely convinced of anything. Only Rob knows 100% whether he did or not.

I'm sorry if it seemed like I overstated your position. I was under the impression you thought Rob played the double up bug. Would you like me to add a correction to what I said? If there's anything specific you would like me to say over at wizard of Vegas on your behalf, let me know, I'll gladly post it over there, if I get a suspension, I really don't care.

Yes, please change my position on WoV from "convinced" to "highly likely." And if you want to you can add my opinion is based on at least a few facts:

1. Rob's overall knowledge of the play, something that no one else on the internet has come close to matching.

2. The fact he knew the published sequence of events to get the machine to double up was wrong, and he published what he called the correct sequence of events. And after that fact KJ confirmed with the author of the Kane & Nestor story that the sequence was intentionally altered. No one has credibly disputed Rob's published sequence.

3. That Rob publicly "retired" from professional video poker play in 2009 a few months after Kane & Nestor got busted. Rob didn't quit playing video poker. What he did was quit filing schedule C on his income tax. He still played some over the years but basically made himself scarce in the casinos which is exactly what I would have done if I were waiting out the statute of limitations. Also, Rob never brought up the fact that he retired in 2009. It's because I've been following him so long that I remembered that about him and brought it up here. I'm the one that put it out there that Rob retired shortly after Kane & Nestor got busted. I thought, and still do, that it was more than coincidence.

4. Rob put this story out there knowing full well that if anyone else taught him the play then his story could easily be publicly shot down. I would not lie about something like this if I was fearful that someone could come forward and easily shoot my story down. It would be a tremendously stupid move and very embarrassing if caught. I think it has been over a year now and no one has come forward. I even put out a reward of $1000 for any good information anyone could provide that someone else knew the play before Rob.

I think it is highly likely Rob put the play down. But I am not 100% convinced . Only Rob knows 100% whether he did or not.

Redietz is a COWARD and a whack job. He responded to my post above not on VCT where I originally made this post but on WoV where he knew I wouldn't be able to respond to it in front of the readers there. It was a shameful move but a good move by him because unfortunately for him his arguments are pure hogwash. Good for him that the WoV readers won't be reading my response where I totally destroy this poltroon.

To my first reason Redietz said in Rob's article on the Best Buys site there wasn't any detail or evidence. Sure, but here redietz is misleading the reader. Rob went into great detail in several posts on the subject. He published a different sequence than the Wired article. He advised everyone of the make and models involved. Went into great detail on the bill acceptors. Those posts are in the archives here. I CURRENTLY don't know where to look for them but THEY ARE DAMN SURE THERE. And a lot of people here will remember them. Maybe someone can job my memory.

Redietz keeps on with this thing about Rob working for others on the play. This is where redietz is just asshole ignorant on machine plays. He lives in the sportsbetting world where it takes substantial money to make any decent money. He doesn't know about machine plays that can be so easy it takes hardly any money at all. The DUB play is one of those plays. You got a hundred dollar bill? You are good to go. it can be pulled of with just $100. But let's say Rob didn't do it that way. Let's say he played quarters straight up until he had a DU hand. How much money do you think that takes? If you got a grand in your pocket you will never go broke. With a chump change bankroll and an abundance of machines available there would be absolutely no reason to work for someone else. It's just plain stupid of redietz to think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence would work for someone else on this play. STUPID, REDIETZ. JUST PLAIN STUPID.

Now, for no one coming forward to this point and claiming they taught Rob the play. Redietz says anyone that did wouldn't come forward. Maybe not come all the way forward but i think we would have some rumors by now. You know, the AP, keep it under your hat, type of thing. The AP world is a small world. Something should have been in the grapevine by now.

Just pointing out all your logical flaws, redietz. And tell that snitch Billryan to eat shit.

[Rob.Singer]

I've been asked numerous times and even recently what the chances are that I think Rob actually played this.

I'm personally not going to publicly commit either way. I will say this... Rob is either genius, or he is full of s***.

The fact that he found it(I can't even remember how he claims he figured it out at this point)
Then he played it, went totally undetected by any authorities, casinos or other Advantage players, made Millions while he had the forethought to make sure there was no evidence whatsoever and he was able to make it appear on the public records that he doesn't have a lot and he was able to maneuver ownership of properties into family members names, save some money by filing bankruptcy(not sure if that was before or after, not know what she did have a career prior) Or whatever etc etc.

The bankruptcy was in the mid nineties long before the DUB.

Correct. And it had nothing to do with gaming. Look it up if you want details. It also was before Joe Biden and his corrupt friends in the banking industry got the bankruptcy laws changed to hurt filers and help banks. But in 1996, all filing did was increase our assets by eliminating debt. It was yet another advantage play in life.

axel, your interpretation is about the closest I've seen, up and down the line, to how I put my total plan together in the 96 waking hours after I found the play.

Boz I know to some I'm unlikeable, esp. those I poke. But the guy who will interview me soon is not one of them. And I'm not talking about Mendelson the great.

[monet]

The one thing this whole topic did was make WoV and its minions look bad.
I mean you have a clear violation of rule breaking from the top to the bottom.
The rule breaking is constant and it appears that the whole thing is moderated in a very biased way.
Mix in BBB's approval and it seems to tarnish whatever reputation the Rules in Wizard Land had.
Seems unfair or wrong in many ways but makes for some entertainment.
I notice most people ignore Redietz but what is funny is that Alan and him aren't getting along.
This appears strange as Redietz is on Alan's side but Alan will have nothing doing as he loves to argue.
I laughed pretty hard when Redietz gave that spiel about: "I studied Journalism and I know what I am talking about!!"
Since they have gone this far, they might as well let all banned members out of exile.
This is one reason you have to love Dan Druff and VCT.
I tried to get banned from here for awhile.
Dan never flinched or made one comment.
I gave up after a few weeks of trying.
I realized, Dan Druff don't roll like that!
Very refreshing compared to Mike, Norm and others.

[monet]

You forgot to mention redietz also doesn’t like this alt right group since it’s “anti-scienctific”.

Having studied liberals over many years in their natural habitat I’ve come to understand “Anti-scienctific” is their code word for someone who believes in God. If you think about it, many of their code words are actually compliments.

The modern day Religion is what they call Science.
I find it humorous because "Science" came from Alchemy.
The whole thing goes back to Aristotle and it wasn't long ago that they were using entrails to be "scientific."
In reality it all boils down to funding, like most things in this temporary/physical world.
The best part is that Scientists will admit they can't prove most of their ideas or theories.
They have the hardest time agreeing that 2+2=4.

I've never been a proponent of Religion and especially Organized Religion.
Jesus seemed to be very against the whole notion or idea.
His greatest example of a person was John the Baptist.
However, according to the written account, John the Baptist was nothing compared to the Least/Smallest Person in Heaven.

[Rob.Singer]

Axel I just read your post on the thread about me on WoV.

I believe you KNOW you can get the exact sequence(s) from me. But you also need to identify if you want the exact sequence for a hand that already exists on the machine (whether it's someone else's hit or one that you hit earlier) or for a hand that you hit in real time.

Someone owning a machine with the DU bug would be a real find.

[Bob21]

The fact that he found it(I can't even remember how he claims he figured it out at this point)

Axel, for me this is the most critical part of Rob’s story. How did he find the bug? It seems like you give him a pass on this point.

All the rest of Rob’s story makes total sense, and wouldn’t be that hard to pull off by anybody with just a little common sense. I mean it goes without saying if you go into a casino and win 8 jackpots on one slot machine totaling $30,000 in one evening (which is what Kane did), it’s going to raise a casino’s suspicions, and you aren’t going to last long.

Here’s how Rob said he found it. Rob claims he was actively looking for a “bug.” To me this is where Rob’s story falls apart. If you know anything about bugs in a computer program, you don’t actively look for them. You’re more likely to find them by random chance, like Kane and Nester did.

And remember two main - unrelated - things had to happen for someone to find this bug: 1) the double up had to be turned on and 2) the right sequence of buttons had to be pressed.

In hindsight it’s easy to see why nobody happened on this bug before Kane and Nester. As the article pointed out, the majority of casinos didn’t have the DU activated since most players didn’t like it. So if someone was looking for a bug without DU activated, they would have never found it. And there is no reason someone would think they’d have to tell the casino to activate the DU to start looking for bugs.

So without knowing the double up feature activitated this bug (which then took several complicated steps), it’s hard to see how someone would have figured this out if they were looking for “bugs”.

The article said the steps to activate this bug once the DU was on were very “complex”, quoting the article. It took the IGT computer engineer several days to figure it out and this was after he was armed with surveillance footage of Kane activating it.

As for me, I don’t care if Rob exploited the DU bug or not. I’ve been following this story because I find it fascinating. Everybody seems to question the part of Rob’s story that to me makes the most sense. Nobody seems to question my concern: How would somebody ever find a bug like this by actively searching for it? What if the bug didn’t exist? That means Rob would’ve been spending hours each evening pushing buttons randomly for no reason. At some point most reasonable people would quit looking for a bug.

This is why I think it is highly unlikely Rob found it or exploited it. It’s based on how he said he found it. His explanation just didn’t add up in my book. If it did in yours, I’m okay with that.

Again, once the bug is discovered, everything else made sense. I think most reasonable commonsense people could’ve easily exploited it for five years or longer and never got caught. The key is just don’t get greedy, even with how much you move up in denomination to win your jackpot. Someone could play it at one dollar and move it to two dollars and you would have a huge advantage, and still stay under the casino’s radar. Kane and Nester were moving it up from $1 to $10 and staying at a machine to claim multiple large jackpots in an evening. It’s easy to see why they didn’t last long.

Anyway, it’s a very interesting story and I still think the Kane and Nestor version could make it to the big screen someday. If it does, I’m going to try to be one of the principal screen writers. Lol

[MaxPen]

The fact that he found it(I can't even remember how he claims he figured it out at this point)

Axel, for me this is the most critical part of Rob’s story. How did he find the bug? It seems like you give him a pass on this point.

All the rest of Rob’s story makes total sense, and wouldn’t be that hard to pull off by anybody with just a little common sense. I mean it goes without saying if you go into a casino and win 8 jackpots on one slot machine totaling $30,000 in one evening (which is what Kane did), it’s going to raise a casino’s suspicions, and you aren’t going to last long.

Here’s how Rob said he found it. Rob claims he was actively looking for a “bug.” To me this is where Rob’s story falls apart. If you know anything about bugs in a computer program, you don’t actively look for them. You’re more likely to find them by random chance, like Kane and Nester did.

And remember two main - unrelated - things had to happen for someone to find this bug: 1) the double up had to be turned on and 2) the right sequence of buttons had to be pressed.

In hindsight it’s easy to see why nobody happened on this bug before Kane and Nester. As the article pointed out, the majority of casinos didn’t have the DU activated since most players didn’t like it. So if someone was looking for a bug without DU activated, they would have never found it. And there is no reason someone would think they’d have to tell the casino to activate the DU to start looking for bugs.

So without knowing the double up feature activitated this bug (which then took several complicated steps), it’s hard to see how someone would have figured this out if they were looking for “bugs”.

The article said the steps to activate this bug once the DU was on were very “complex”, quoting the article. It took the IGT computer engineer several days to figure it out and this was after he was armed with surveillance footage of Kane activating it.

As for me, I don’t care if Rob exploited the DU bug or not. I’ve been following this story because I find it fascinating. Everybody seems to question the part of Rob’s story that to me makes the most sense. Nobody seems to question my concern: How would somebody ever find a bug like this by actively searching for it? What if the bug didn’t exist? That means Rob would’ve been spending hours each evening pushing buttons randomly for no reason. At some point most reasonable people would quit looking for a bug.

This is why I think it is highly unlikely Rob found it or exploited it. It’s based on how he said he found it. His explanation just didn’t add up in my book. If it did in yours, I’m okay with that.

Again, once the bug is discovered, everything else made sense. I think most reasonable commonsense people could’ve easily exploited it for five years or longer and never got caught. The key is just don’t get greedy, even with how much you move up in denomination to win your jackpot. Someone could play it at one dollar and move it to two dollars and you would have a huge advantage, and still stay under the casino’s radar. Kane and Nester were moving it up from $1 to $10 and staying at a machine to claim multiple large jackpots in an evening. It’s easy to see why they didn’t last long.

Anyway, it’s a very interesting story and I still think the Kane and Nestor version could make it to the big screen someday. If it does, I’m going to try to be one of the principal screen writers. Lol

At this point what you are pointing out is just another hole in the block of swiss cheese regarding this matter and Singer's life tales of fiction.

[Rob.Singer]

Bob, it's a debate as to whether you're taking your marching orders from kew or not.

First of all, the machine I found it on had the DU option enabled--as many machines did back then and some do today. I never "asked for" it to be enabled.

Next, because the DU was enabled, that made my searching for anything that could be exploited a bit easier. In my career, I've had teams of software engineers (they program code) work on my programs. I quickly learned these people loved to program in their "signatures", detectable only thru a back door. In other words, it's nearly impossible to find. That's what I believe I discovered--an IGT personal signature hiding deep inside the program. It was too complicated and too deeply hidden to simply be an error. When you know what to look for and how to look for it, it only took me 4 years. All it then took was me asking myself "when is a hand over but not REALLY over? In DU mode of course.

And it looks like maxpen has been just anothe victim of Machine Gun Singer.

[mickeycrimm]

Seriously, I can't tell if some of you people have fallen for this goofballs attention seeking bullshit for years now, or whether you know the truth but are just so amused watching it that you go along. Like I said recently. It is midget tossing. you know it's wrong but you don't want it to stop because it is so damn funny and amusing. I think THAT is what is at play here.

It's quite entertaining watching you obsess over Rob Singer. If Rob is attention seeking then he has a big hook in your nose. You hang on every word he writes then write a ten paragraph response every time. He's got you braying like a mule.

[Rob.Singer]

By the way people, how about being a little less abrasive to me today. It's my birthday. You would think the super sleuths who can't stop looking me up would have found that fact by now.

Yes, it's my 71st bday. I had a complete physical 2 weeks ago and went in to get handed my results in a drive-by at the Doctor's office. I laugh at this libtard nonsense. Anyway, I DID NOT see this coming. I always saw 71 as being a decrepit old man with all grey hair and sporting an oxygen tank.

My weight is within 2 lbs. of what it was when I was 39. Blood pressure, EKG, chest and brain xrays at my request) oxygen level, cholesterol, triglycerides, etc. etc. etc. are all just like they've always been: good. The only issue was one they said was of no real concern: a slightly elevated billyrubin level, which has been the same since my 20's.

So to any haters out there who would like to see me inhabit an early grave, my sincere apologies.
And I'm still REAL good with a Mossberg shotgun.

[mickeycrimm]

The fact that he found it(I can't even remember how he claims he figured it out at this point)

Axel, for me this is the most critical part of Rob’s story. How did he find the bug? It seems like you give him a pass on this point.

All the rest of Rob’s story makes total sense, and wouldn’t be that hard to pull off by anybody with just a little common sense. I mean it goes without saying if you go into a casino and win 8 jackpots on one slot machine totaling $30,000 in one evening (which is what Kane did), it’s going to raise a casino’s suspicions, and you aren’t going to last long.

Here’s how Rob said he found it. Rob claims he was actively looking for a “bug.” To me this is where Rob’s story falls apart. If you know anything about bugs in a computer program, you don’t actively look for them. You’re more likely to find them by random chance, like Kane and Nester did.

And remember two main - unrelated - things had to happen for someone to find this bug: 1) the double up had to be turned on and 2) the right sequence of buttons had to be pressed.

In hindsight it’s easy to see why nobody happened on this bug before Kane and Nester. As the article pointed out, the majority of casinos didn’t have the DU activated since most players didn’t like it. So if someone was looking for a bug without DU activated, they would have never found it. And there is no reason someone would think they’d have to tell the casino to activate the DU to start looking for bugs.

So without knowing the double up feature activitated this bug (which then took several complicated steps), it’s hard to see how someone would have figured this out if they were looking for “bugs”.

The article said the steps to activate this bug once the DU was on were very “complex”, quoting the article. It took the IGT computer engineer several days to figure it out and this was after he was armed with surveillance footage of Kane activating it.

As for me, I don’t care if Rob exploited the DU bug or not. I’ve been following this story because I find it fascinating. Everybody seems to question the part of Rob’s story that to me makes the most sense. Nobody seems to question my concern: How would somebody ever find a bug like this by actively searching for it? What if the bug didn’t exist? That means Rob would’ve been spending hours each evening pushing buttons randomly for no reason. At some point most reasonable people would quit looking for a bug.

This is why I think it is highly unlikely Rob found it or exploited it. It’s based on how he said he found it. His explanation just didn’t add up in my book. If it did in yours, I’m okay with that.

Again, once the bug is discovered, everything else made sense. I think most reasonable commonsense people could’ve easily exploited it for five years or longer and never got caught. The key is just don’t get greedy, even with how much you move up in denomination to win your jackpot. Someone could play it at one dollar and move it to two dollars and you would have a huge advantage, and still stay under the casino’s radar. Kane and Nester were moving it up from $1 to $10 and staying at a machine to claim multiple large jackpots in an evening. It’s easy to see why they didn’t last long.

Anyway, it’s a very interesting story and I still think the Kane and Nestor version could make it to the big screen someday. If it does, I’m going to try to be one of the principal screen writers. Lol

Bob between hands the bill acceptor light is on telling you that you can put money in the machine. In the middle of the hand the bill acceptor light is off telling you that you can't put money in the machine. Rob noticed that when you hit the button to activate the double up the bill acceptor light came on even though you are still in the middle of the hand. That was the starting point to finding the bug.