Alan Mendelson Going For The Jugular

[mickeycrimm]

How many times has KJ preached about not bringing family members into the feuds on this forum? He's done it a bunch. He must expect others to follow that rule but he himself doesn't have to. Case in point is Rob daughter. KJ has been very very busy looking into the lives of Rob's relatives.

KJ is a HYPOCRITE!!

Mickey, I didn't bring Rob's daughter into it.....HE DID, when he stated that he used the DU Bug money to purchase homes in her name.

Look, this is really quite simple. Rob made an extraordinary claim. One that requires some verification for people to believe because it is so unusual. Rob has always stated he wished he still had the tax records so he could prove this claim. Well now there is a way. Verify the purchases made with the money. These were his claims that this is what he did with the money, no one elses. He should be jumping at this opportunity to put this to rest and take his bows. The fact that he is not, but instead placing conditions on doing so, conditions that can not possible be met, just like he always does, really speaks volumes. It really says all anyone needs to know.

This stuff about me and how I make a living is a bunch of baloney. You never questioned me before. No one questions me except maybe coach belly, because his whole existence is that kind of gottch ya baloney. No one questions me because what I claim isn't extraordinary. There are many players doing it. And the math backs it up. Card counting advantage vs the Double Up Bug claim? Give me a break. It is just flat out dishonest of you mickey.

Mickey, you claim that you believe Rob's claim. No one even believes that you really do. But if you really do, you should WANT to see this proof to back up your belief. You should be encouraging Rob to show whatever evidence he has. That fact that you aren't speaks volumes about you.

Sometimes lack of evidence is in fact evidence. Look I have presented my evidence proving Rob is lying. It is in the form of public records that anyone can look up that clearly contradicts Robs claims. That is all I can do. I can't actually repost those records here. That is illegal and would open me up to a great deal of liability with or without Rob's permission. So I have presented my evidence. I can't make you read it. You and others looking the other way and refusing to look shows your agenda. So don't even attempt to paint yourself as objective. No one believes that. You and coach belly aren't seeking the truth. The truth is in front of you and you refuse to look.

I am really done with this. Rob's decision to not show evidence and/or put conditions on it he knows can't be met, speaks volumes. That in itself is evidence. I can guarantee Mike Shackleford doesn't accept Rob's claims without some kind of supporting documentation. So then we are just right back to square 1. Rob has this extraordinary claim. No one believes him (4%) and he is not interested in showing any supporting documentation or evidence. The 20 year Troll of Rob Singer and now Mickey Crimm continues. That is all it is.

Here's some of my favorite KJ quotes:

"I demand proof."
"I don't have to put up proof."
"Yes, I have proof, someone told me it's true."
"My late partner is off limits."
"Rob's daughter is open game."

Really, all you are doing is trolling. You are harassing someone. That's all. No less and no more. Just harassing someone for fun and pleasure. Do I need Rob to put up proof? I looked at the evidence at hand and decided it was highly likely he put down the play. So do I need to see "proof?" No, because nothing will prove it. Nothing. Even Rob spending a large amount of money doesn't prove anything.

KJ, you are demanding the impossible. Nothing will ever prove what Rob did from 2004 to 2009. So all you are doing is harassing someone about it. Didn't those "search background" engines tell you the info you gain couldn't be used to harass someone? What is that called in a court of law?

[Rob.Singer]

Will kew pay the ultimate price???

[Rob.Singer]

Will there be a tragedy at one of the multi-housing dumps nearby the Strip?

[kewlJ]

These deflections are all you have Singer. All you have EVER had.

What a loser. A guy spends 20 years on forums pretending to be something he is not. Then steals claims of others that he reads in the media. Seriously? How pathetic is this?

[kewlJ]

Your grasping Mickey. Dan asked Rob if we had his permission to post information found on him. Rob responded "yes, he didn't care". End of your harassments idea.

Now while Rob can give him permission for me to post what I find, in my own words, he can not release me from the liability of actual posting copies or downloads of that information. So I haven't done that. Instead I have posted what I have found and encouraged others to go look for themselves. Absolutely nothing illegal about that. But keep grasping Mickey and Rob. You will try anything to stop the truth from being known about Rob's 20 year lies.

[Rob.Singer]

Your grasping Mickey. Dan asked Rob if we had his permission to post information found on him. Rob responded "yes, he didn't care". End of your harassments idea.

Now while Rob can give him permission for me to post what I find, in my own words, he can not release me from the liability of actual posting copies or downloads of that information. So I haven't done that. Instead I have posted what I have found and encouraged others to go look for themselves. Absolutely nothing illegal about that. But keep grasping Mickey and Rob. You will try anything to stop the truth from being known about Rob's 20 year lies.

Another of your numerous lies kew. I said I didn't care what people said because it obviously doesn't change a thing for us. But never did I say it was ok to post personal info about my family. That's totally on you and how badly you've been wounded over this.

No wonder you are in panic mode. Not even max can swoop in and lie enuf to save the day.

[mickeycrimm]

Your grasping Mickey. Dan asked Rob if we had his permission to post information found on him. Rob responded "yes, he didn't care". End of your harassments idea.

Now while Rob can give him permission for me to post what I find, in my own words, he can not release me from the liability of actual posting copies or downloads of that information. So I haven't done that. Instead I have posted what I have found and encouraged others to go look for themselves. Absolutely nothing illegal about that. But keep grasping Mickey and Rob. You will try anything to stop the truth from being known about Rob's 20 year lies.

You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.

[kewlJ]

You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.

No mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.

Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?

Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years?

He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer.

[Rob.Singer]

You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.

No mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.

Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?

Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years?

He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer.

Nope Another desperate lie kew.

I released it after ten years because that's what I planned to do. And all you're doing is showing how much you don't want to believe it, but do!

In other words, you're as pathetic as you appear to be.

[mickeycrimm]

You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.

No mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.

Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?

Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years?

He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer.

Here's a big secret about why Rob won't provide proof, KJ. It's funny, I mean hysterical, watching you whine like a little bitch over it. You crack me up, Inspector KJ Clouseau, the ass clown.

As it stands, no evidence exists that you made a living playing blackjack. Proof or it never happened. You're probably some little old lady that used to hook and got bitch slapped one to many times.

[kewlJ]

Here's a big secret about why Rob won't provide proof, KJ. It's funny, I mean hysterical, watching you whine like a little bitch over it. You crack me up, Inspector KJ Clouseau, the ass clown.

As it stands, no evidence exists that you made a living playing blackjack. Proof or it never happened. You're probably some little old lady that used to hook and got bitch slapped one to many times.

More Deflection!

[dannyj]

You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.

No mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.

Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?

Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years?

He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer.

Yet you still go on this quest for the truth. KJ, you have always said that you didn’t care one way or the other if you were believed or not in regards to your BJ play or countless personal experiences you’ve had. Who cares? You will say, he made “extraordinary” claims and they require proof and yours are just run of the mill claims. Again, who cares. Most have formed opinions and don’t find a need to seek proof from someone on an Internet forum.

It’s gotten real personal. That’s the way these things always end up. That’s how stalkers are born.

Anyhow, carry on. It makes for good reading but there won’t be any winners here.

[kewlJ]

You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.

No mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.

Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?

Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years?

He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer.

Yet you still go on this quest for the truth. KJ, you have always said that you didn’t care one way or the other if you were believed or not in regards to your BJ play or countless personal experiences you’ve had. Who cares? You will say, he made “extraordinary” claims and they require proof and yours are just run of the mill claims. Again, who cares. Most have formed opinions and don’t find a need to seek proof from someone on an Internet forum.

It’s gotten real personal. That’s the way these things always end up. That’s how stalkers are born.

Anyhow, carry on. It makes for good reading but there won’t be any winners here.

Well that's it Danny. Stay at home and all that. Gotta have something to do. I actually am trying to be responsible and not go outside until Tuesday when I get my antibody test, just to be sure I am no longer contagious and can spread to anyone else. So I am home and bored. Gotta have something to do.

Alan is the one that re-ignited this discussion over at WoV. And apparently it is going to lead to an interview between Wizard and Rob, so the topic becomes relevant again. I personally don't think Alans reasons were all that honorable. I believe it is more about him trying to hurt Rob, because of things Rob said about Alan, rather than get to the truth as he claims.

BUt regardless of his intent, Alan has raised a great point. Since Rob claims to have destroyed all tax and casino documentation, why can't he show as supporting evidence what he spent the money on. It is Rob's claim that he spent 1.5 million of DU bug money on an RV. Nobody made that up. That is his claim. Is it really unreasonable to expect to see something supporting this extraordinary claim?

Seriously, let me ask you that again, because you seem like a reasonable members here. I don't agree with some, probably even most of your positions, but you seem reasonable to me, so is it unreasonable to expect some sort of supporting evidence for a claim of this magnitude? I'll let you make the call Dannyj.

[Bob21]

It’s gotten real personal. That’s the way these things always end up. That’s how stalkers are born.

Anyhow, carry on. It makes for good reading but there won’t be any winners here.

Dannyj, you make a good point I haven’t thought about before. Stalkers are born from something trivial that grows into something bigger for no reason other than someone becomes obsessed with it, kind of like Kj is doing now.

Forums are to learn, to debate and for fun...and of course to troll! I know sometimes when I get too wrapped up in some argument, my best course of action is just to back off, and take a break. I mean what does it really matter.

I’m thinking MidWest Player has the best approach to forum life. He just throws out bombs here and there and moves on. He never answers anybody, so he never gets wrapped up in any controversy.

So that’s my new approach. Throw out bombs and never reply when someone follows up and asks me a question.

What do you think MWP? Can this forum handle two bomb throwers?

[Rob.Singer]

And kew get this. In 2006 I invested $400,000 from my 401k in gold. The price was around $680/ounce. Now it's a little over $1600. Doesn't that just irk you no end? All the retirement money when you have none?

[mickeycrimm]

All the piss and moaning about Trump is this and Trump is that and how could we vote for him is about how bad the dem candidates are. If their candidates weren't so bad they might get a vote.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, you represent your generation as a really stupid and ignorant fool.

Social security is paid to people who paid into it and is nothing like a "freebie dole" payment. You're worried because you already live on the govt dole, and figuring you hope you die before the time comes that you have zero income. And we can all see your mindset is that no one saves a dime for retirement.
What a sad lost soul you will be.

[MaxPen]

Kew, you represent your generation as a really stupid and ignorant fool.

Social security is paid to people who paid into it and is nothing like a "freebie dole" payment. You're worried because you already live on the govt dole, and figuring you hope you die before the time comes that you have zero income. And we can all see your mindset is that no one saves a dime for retirement.
What a sad lost soul you will be.

Yeah,,,he might even wind up living in his kid's driveway at one of their highly levered homes dreaming about paying the place off with phantom VP wins.
Keep it coming. This is stuff great stories are made of.... lmao

[kewlJ]

Kew, you represent your generation as a really stupid and ignorant fool.

Social security is paid to people who paid into it and is nothing like a "freebie dole" payment. You're worried because you already live on the govt dole, and figuring you hope you die before the time comes that you have zero income. And we can all see your mindset is that no one saves a dime for retirement.
What a sad lost soul you will be.

People pay into unemployment too. I also pay taxes which is where this stimulus comes from.

Are you guys really this stupid? It is government dole when it involves others, but not when it involves you? Ridiculous, you hypocrites. If you are against government programs, send back your social security!

And you represent your generation well Rob at least on these forums. On these forums you old dudes, especially old white dudes have become extremely bitter. I guess you are angry at yourselves and your own position and choices throughout life, but you have decided to blame and take it out on anyone that isn't an old white guy. Talk about entitlement. You clowns represent everything that America is NOT.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, you represent your generation as a really stupid and ignorant fool.

Social security is paid to people who paid into it and is nothing like a "freebie dole" payment. You're worried because you already live on the govt dole, and figuring you hope you die before the time comes that you have zero income. And we can all see your mindset is that no one saves a dime for retirement.
What a sad lost soul you will be.

People pay into unemployment too. I also pay taxes which is where this stimulus comes from.

Are you guys really this stupid? It is government dole when it involves others, but not when it involves you? Ridiculous, you hypocrites. If you are against government programs, send back your social security!

And you represent your generation well Rob at least on these forums. On these forums you old dudes, especially old white dudes have become extremely bitter. I guess you are angry at yourselves and your own position and choices throughout life, but you have decided to blame and take it out on anyone that isn't an old white guy. Talk about entitlement. You clowns represent everything that America is NOT.

You're probably getting used to being called stupid.

Unemployment isn't a govt dole program just as SS isn't.

Your generation is the bitter one. You people are paying for my monthly income and you'll never see any of it yourselves. That's where the "moronic" comes in. And that's why I encourage every one of you to get a second job. More for me