The Big Hurt Is Coming

[MDawg]

Mickey wants to feel sooooo important sooooo bad. The biggest thing he ever told me that i recall was to confirm Neptune Gold isn't a play. I mean, last time i saw an AP I followed him about to see if he knew anything I didn't. AP does his rounds, then sits at a quickhit. Like right over his shoulder I see a play 15 feet away from him. He knew about quickhits, but apparently not this other machine. It is a lot of fun finding machines.

Mickey is an impressive dude. Too bad he doesn't work to finish his book instead of spending his effort on here trying to convince everyone else they're wasting their time on here. I listened to the GWAE with him again. This guy did 10th grade math, never algebra then went to a library for gambling stuff and was lost at the math. Found a book that does poker odds longform and from there intuitively understands how the odds work.

I'm far more interested in hearing about the old plays and how they all evolved. That stuff will likely be lost in history in some weird way. Video games are preserved, but this stuff isn't. Who gives a fuck about his 'plays' .. it is his explaining of his methodology that was useful. Anyone with enough wits can network or find this stuff on their own.

Other than that MickeyCrimm seemed to be calling me a liar, I don't have a problem with him. If he was getting away with whatever he was doing, more power to him.


The other comment you make is valid too actually - better to spend time writing a book than giving all your content to forums. But, it's a lot easier to post a little here and there than sit down and complete an entire manuscript, so even if a person has the intent to write an entire story, it's easy to get sucked into just posting a bit here and there online. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas started as just a series of articles, ended up a book.

[redietz]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

[Bob21]

Most conservative's version of freedom is to pay fewer taxes (and gleefully charge it to their children's accounts). WHat're you gonna do?

Accountinginquestion your statement is right out of the liberal playbook. Again, demonstrating you’re a hard-core liberal. You even quote from the liberal playbook.

You’re wrong about what conservatives believe. Conservatives want to cut back government programs and spending at the same time they want to cut back on taxes. Conservatives are the ones for balanced budgets.

The problem is once the left-wing liberals put in place all these socialist liberal handout programs, it’s almost impossible to undo them. Democrats scream at the top of their lungs when someone tries to cut one back, making ridiculous claims against conservatives.

It’s like piglets latched onto mama pig’s tits. It’s almost impossible to pull it off one, and when you do, they squeal like you’ve just killed them.

Sounds like you really enjoy paying taxes. You’ve definitely eaten what the Democrats have fed you, hook line and sinker.

So when I refer to you in the future, I’ll be calling you a hard-core liberal, rather than just a run-of-the-mill liberal. Thanks for showing your true colors!

[accountinquestion]

Most conservative's version of freedom is to pay fewer taxes (and gleefully charge it to their children's accounts). WHat're you gonna do?

Accountinginquestion your statement is right out of the liberal playbook. Again, demonstrating you’re a hard-core liberal. You even quote from the liberal playbook.

You’re wrong about what conservatives believe. Conservatives want to cut back government programs and spending at the same time they want to cut back on taxes. Conservatives are the ones for balanced budgets.

The problem is once the left-wing liberals put in place all these socialist liberal handout programs, it’s almost impossible to undo them. Democrats scream at the top of their lungs when someone tries to cut one back, making ridiculous claims against conservatives.

It’s like piglets latched onto mama pig’s tits. It’s almost impossible to pull it off one, and when you do, they squeal like you’ve just killed them.

Sounds like you really enjoy paying taxes. You’ve definitely eaten what the Democrats have fed you, hook line and sinker.

So when I refer to you in the future, I’ll be calling you a hard-core liberal, rather than just a run-of-the-mill liberal. Thanks for showing your true colors!

Conservatives do not want to pay taxes moreso than liberals. This idea that they're for balanced budgets is nonsense. When you can cut taxes and keep government services, then that is the option Republicans will take. Democrats are more likely to raise taxes to pay for it.

You really believe all the Republican tax-cuts are for the intention of balancing the budget? Whatever. Shoo, moron. Aren't you the one who gets private/public entities confused and brought up sports players having to follow rules and then compared that to citizens having to follow laws. You missed the point, the boat, and everything in between if you don't understand such crucial distinctions between government and private enterprise.

[Bob21]

Most conservative's version of freedom is to pay fewer taxes (and gleefully charge it to their children's accounts). WHat're you gonna do?

Accountinginquestion your statement is right out of the liberal playbook. Again, demonstrating you’re a hard-core liberal. You even quote from the liberal playbook.

You’re wrong about what conservatives believe. Conservatives want to cut back government programs and spending at the same time they want to cut back on taxes. Conservatives are the ones for balanced budgets.

The problem is once the left-wing liberals put in place all these socialist liberal handout programs, it’s almost impossible to undo them. Democrats scream at the top of their lungs when someone tries to cut one back, making ridiculous claims against conservatives.

It’s like piglets latched onto mama pig’s tits. It’s almost impossible to pull it off one, and when you do, they squeal like you’ve just killed them.

Sounds like you really enjoy paying taxes. You’ve definitely eaten what the Democrats have fed you, hook line and sinker.

So when I refer to you in the future, I’ll be calling you a hard-core liberal, rather than just a run-of-the-mill liberal. Thanks for showing your true colors!

Conservatives do not want to pay taxes moreso than liberals. This idea that they're for balanced budgets is nonsense. When you can cut taxes and keep government services, then that is the option Republicans will take. Democrats are more likely to raise taxes to pay for it.

You really believe all the Republican tax-cuts are for the intention of balancing the budget? Whatever. Shoo, moron. Aren't you the one who gets private/public entities confused and brought up sports players having to follow rules and then compared that to citizens having to follow laws. You missed the point, the boat, and everything in between if you don't understand such crucial distinctions between government and private enterprise.

You’re so far out in left field that you’re probably a lost cause.

You still don’t understand the concept of following laws. Sounds like you might be an anarchist.

As far as paying taxes for government services, yes, of course I believe doing that. The problem is the majority of our taxes do not go for government services. They go for government liberal left-wing handout programs.

That’s a fact. And that’s what conservatives are against. Since you’re a hard-core liberal I doubt if you’ll understand that.

[accountinquestion]

Accountinginquestion your statement is right out of the liberal playbook. Again, demonstrating you’re a hard-core liberal. You even quote from the liberal playbook.

You’re wrong about what conservatives believe. Conservatives want to cut back government programs and spending at the same time they want to cut back on taxes. Conservatives are the ones for balanced budgets.

The problem is once the left-wing liberals put in place all these socialist liberal handout programs, it’s almost impossible to undo them. Democrats scream at the top of their lungs when someone tries to cut one back, making ridiculous claims against conservatives.

It’s like piglets latched onto mama pig’s tits. It’s almost impossible to pull it off one, and when you do, they squeal like you’ve just killed them.

Sounds like you really enjoy paying taxes. You’ve definitely eaten what the Democrats have fed you, hook line and sinker.

So when I refer to you in the future, I’ll be calling you a hard-core liberal, rather than just a run-of-the-mill liberal. Thanks for showing your true colors!

Conservatives do not want to pay taxes moreso than liberals. This idea that they're for balanced budgets is nonsense. When you can cut taxes and keep government services, then that is the option Republicans will take. Democrats are more likely to raise taxes to pay for it.

You really believe all the Republican tax-cuts are for the intention of balancing the budget? Whatever. Shoo, moron. Aren't you the one who gets private/public entities confused and brought up sports players having to follow rules and then compared that to citizens having to follow laws. You missed the point, the boat, and everything in between if you don't understand such crucial distinctions between government and private enterprise.

You’re so far out in left field that you’re probably a lost cause.

You still don’t understand the concept of following laws. Sounds like you might be an anarchist.

As far as paying taxes for government services, yes, of course I believe doing that. The problem is the majority of our taxes do not go for government services. They go for government liberal left-wing handout programs.

That’s a fact. And that’s what conservatives are against. Since you’re a hard-core liberal I doubt if you’ll understand that.

In my definition of the world, anarchists are more right-wing than left-wing. I don't know if you'd feel comfortable calling them conservatives?

From my understanding of your position, no matter what the rules are, they override your morality and ethics. It is no wonder you support Trump so strongly.

Wow you are obsessed with me. I can barely bring myself to read your full posts and usually only respond to the first paragraph. Don't care to argue with you/danny/bosox. You all have the same cookie-cutter opinions of 10s of millions of other Americans. Spoon fucking fed.

[BoSox]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

You won't be all kinds of happy and joyful when Singer's twin brother shows up and saves the day. I also noticed that you have a big mouth on the site WOV where you should keep your business where it belongs. Not too classy on your part.

[Bob21]

Conservatives do not want to pay taxes moreso than liberals. This idea that they're for balanced budgets is nonsense. When you can cut taxes and keep government services, then that is the option Republicans will take. Democrats are more likely to raise taxes to pay for it.

You really believe all the Republican tax-cuts are for the intention of balancing the budget? Whatever. Shoo, moron. Aren't you the one who gets private/public entities confused and brought up sports players having to follow rules and then compared that to citizens having to follow laws. You missed the point, the boat, and everything in between if you don't understand such crucial distinctions between government and private enterprise.

You’re so far out in left field that you’re probably a lost cause.

You still don’t understand the concept of following laws. Sounds like you might be an anarchist.

As far as paying taxes for government services, yes, of course I believe doing that. The problem is the majority of our taxes do not go for government services. They go for government liberal left-wing handout programs.

That’s a fact. And that’s what conservatives are against. Since you’re a hard-core liberal I doubt if you’ll understand that.

In my definition of the world, anarchists are more right-wing than left-wing. I don't know if you'd feel comfortable calling them conservatives?

From my understanding of your position, no matter what the rules are, they override your morality and ethics. It is no wonder you support Trump so strongly.

Wow you are obsessed with me. I can barely bring myself to read your full posts and usually only respond to the first paragraph. Don't care to argue with you/danny/bosox. You all have the same cookie-cutter opinions of 10s of millions of other Americans. Spoon fucking fed.

Accountinginquestion, you’re the one who said you smoke weed in states where you know it’s illegal. That means you’re most likely either a drug addict or an anarchist.

Btw, most pot heads are liberals, so it’s not surprising you’re hard-core liberal.

[accountinquestion]

Accountinginquestion, you’re the one who said you smoke weed in states where you know it’s illegal. That means you’re most likely either a drug addict or an anarchist.

Btw, most pot heads are liberals, so it’s not surprising you’re hard-core liberal.

Bob, I'd much rather be a pothead anarchist than a blithering moron. At least I can change those things. Being a blithering moron is out of your control. Check-mate and we're in agreement.

[Bob21]

Accountinginquestion, you’re the one who said you smoke weed in states where you know it’s illegal. That means you’re most likely either a drug addict or an anarchist.

Btw, most pot heads are liberals, so it’s not surprising you’re hard-core liberal.

Bob, I'd much rather be a pothead anarchist than a blithering moron. At least I can change those things. Being a blithering moron is out of your control. Check-mate and we're in agreement.

It’s good to hear you’re thinking of changing and stopping smoking weed. Weed fries a person’s brain, and it sounds like yours is about half fried. At least you’ll be able to save half your brain.

[The Boz]

Mickey wants to feel sooooo important sooooo bad. The biggest thing he ever told me that i recall was to confirm Neptune Gold isn't a play. I mean, last time i saw an AP I followed him about to see if he knew anything I didn't. AP does his rounds, then sits at a quickhit. Like right over his shoulder I see a play 15 feet away from him. He knew about quickhits, but apparently not this other machine. It is a lot of fun finding machines.

Mickey is an impressive dude. Too bad he doesn't work to finish his book instead of spending his effort on here trying to convince everyone else they're wasting their time on here. I listened to the GWAE with him again. This guy did 10th grade math, never algebra then went to a library for gambling stuff and was lost at the math. Found a book that does poker odds longform and from there intuitively understands how the odds work.

I'm far more interested in hearing about the old plays and how they all evolved. That stuff will likely be lost in history in some weird way. Video games are preserved, but this stuff isn't. Who gives a fuck about his 'plays' .. it is his explaining of his methodology that was useful. Anyone with enough wits can network or find this stuff on their own.

Other than that MickeyCrimm seemed to be calling me a liar, I don't have a problem with him. If he was getting away with whatever he was doing, more power to him.


The other comment you make is valid too actually - better to spend time writing a book than giving all your content to forums. But, it's a lot easier to post a little here and there than sit down and complete an entire manuscript, so even if a person has the intent to write an entire story, it's easy to get sucked into just posting a bit here and there online. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas started as just a series of articles, ended up a book.

As far as I know Mickey has always lived his life the exact way he wanted to. I’m sure he has determined writing a book isn’t worth the time. Like most gambling books, it’s a small audience. For every Bringing down the House, there are 100 books Curtis has tried to push that are being given away.

Most of us would have been lucky to lived our life like Mickey did and still does. The way he wants to.

Few people are as real as Mick is. We should consider ourselves lucky to have interacted with him and still have the opportunity.

[The Boz]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

Reports today say the Coronavirus could be spread through the internet. You probably should stop posting and leave your grocery order outside 10 days to just to be safe. 7 days may not be enough.

Perfect for the clown afraid of his own shadow like you RED.

[AxelWolf]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

I think the difference is... that account was made specifically two mock and troll a specific member. I think you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not discounting or encouraging what you said specifically about Rob, I'm just saying I can see why action was taken Mickey's clitoris account.

[dannyj]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

I think the difference is... that account was made specifically two mock and troll a specific member. I think you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not discounting or encouraging what you said specifically about Rob, I'm just saying I can see why action was taken Mickey's clitoris account.

Yeah that’s a bad comparison red. And I noticed you responded directly a couple times to the cunt as if you were trying to rub it in Mickey’s face. No pun intended. Weak.

[The Boz]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

I think the difference is... that account was made specifically two mock and troll a specific member. I think you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not discounting or encouraging what you said specifically about Rob, I'm just saying I can see why action was taken Mickey's clitoris account.

And as always this place is no different from WoV in that if you don’t like it, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

While Dan doesn’t say it like The Wiz does, it’s always your option to post here.

[AndrewG]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

I think the difference is... that account was made specifically two mock and troll a specific member. I think you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not discounting or encouraging what you said specifically about Rob, I'm just saying I can see why action was taken Mickey's clitoris account.

I agree that the Clit account should have been banned. But Mr Redietz is correct and the Singer account needs to be banned as well.

[The Boz]

The two things I find most interesting about the entire Singer expose have to do with belief systems, commitment to prior opinions, definitions, and evidence:

1) Despite overwhelming immediate evidence, some of the same people who have consistently denigrated 18 yo's as asinine (and it is -- ed.) not only refused to accept the completely obvious with these photos, they sprinkled the thread with maybe's, perhaps's, and some kind of parallel universe possibility of an explanation. It should be as embarrassing as defending 18 consecutive yo's.

2) Dan Druff, who runs pokerfraudalert and devotes considerable time to the integrity of poker, bans "mickey's clit" for "trolling," but does NOT immediately ban somebody who clearly lied to every forum poster for hundreds if not thousands of posts and created completely fictional self-promoting narratives for a decade on the site. Not only did this person promote his own fictional narratives, he has lied hundreds if not thousands of times about legitimate gamblers on this site who know what they're doing. But this poster, as opposed to "mickey's clit," is not banned. So if it ain't poker, it ain't lying, I guess.

I think the difference is... that account was made specifically two mock and troll a specific member. I think you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not discounting or encouraging what you said specifically about Rob, I'm just saying I can see why action was taken Mickey's clitoris account.

I agree that the Clit account should have been banned. But Mr Redietz is correct and the Singer account needs to be banned as well.

That said, your friend Alan never did it over the years with many calls for it. I understand Alan learned more over the years but still he could have done it. I wonder why he so wanted to believe Rob and his posts?

Also doesn’t Red owe Alan an apology from his post over at WoV?

[AndrewG]

I think the difference is... that account was made specifically two mock and troll a specific member. I think you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm not discounting or encouraging what you said specifically about Rob, I'm just saying I can see why action was taken Mickey's clitoris account.

I agree that the Clit account should have been banned. But Mr Redietz is correct and the Singer account needs to be banned as well.

That said, your friend Alan never did it over the years with many calls for it. I understand Alan learned more over the years but still he could have done it. I wonder why he so wanted to believe Rob and his posts?

Also doesn’t Red owe Alan an apology from his post over at WoV?

Didn't Mr Kewlj say that Mr Alan did ban Singer, but Mr Dan allowed Singer back?

[The Boz]

I agree that the Clit account should have been banned. But Mr Redietz is correct and the Singer account needs to be banned as well.

That said, your friend Alan never did it over the years with many calls for it. I understand Alan learned more over the years but still he could have done it. I wonder why he so wanted to believe Rob and his posts?

Also doesn’t Red owe Alan an apology from his post over at WoV?

Didn't Mr Kewlj say that Mr Alan did ban Singer, but Mr Dan allowed Singer back?

I thought Dan banned him and then allowed him back on a limited capacity and then ignored it. My bad if I’m wrong about that.

[MaxPen]

That said, your friend Alan never did it over the years with many calls for it. I understand Alan learned more over the years but still he could have done it. I wonder why he so wanted to believe Rob and his posts?

Also doesn’t Red owe Alan an apology from his post over at WoV?

Didn't Mr Kewlj say that Mr Alan did ban Singer, but Mr Dan allowed Singer back?

I thought Dan banned him and then allowed him back on a limited capacity and then ignored it. My bad if I’m wrong about that.

I'm for letting Grandpa Newell stay. He's part of the family. If Dan wants to restrict him to the driveway as the owner of the house. That's all good and well too.
Plus, it seems Mickey is addicted to the 9.5" and I wouldn't want to see him left wanting. I'd imagine that's a hard thing to find for a dedicated bottom such as Uncle Cum Right In My Mouth Mickey.