The Big Hurt Is Coming

[AndrewG]

The silence has been deafening, but reliable sources tell us THE BIG HURT IS COMING.

[monet]

Tough to Fear Men who can only kill the body.
One should Fear God who can put your soul in HELL!

[redietz]

[Deech]

Confused as to what a thread about the arrival of Frank Thomas means. As for songs, Johnny Cash in a knockout.

[monet]

Confused as to what a thread about the arrival of Frank Thomas means. As for songs, Johnny Cash in a knockout.

Just another Nugenix Commercial.
Expect Mendlebread to post something about Andy Van Slyke and Doug Flutie very soon.

[AxelWolf]

Confused as to what a thread about the arrival of Frank Thomas means. As for songs, Johnny Cash in a knockout.

just a guess, I think it has something to do with Mike's interview with Rob singer. I don't think there's going to be much regarding all of that.

[Rob.Singer]

Confused as to what a thread about the arrival of Frank Thomas means. As for songs, Johnny Cash in a knockout.

just a guess, I think it has something to do with Mike's interview with Rob singer. I don't think there's going to be much regarding all of that.

As usual Alan is trying to cook up controversy and a story of some kind.

Shack and I did some test work on the video conferencing yesterday and tomorrow Heather will hopefully help iron out a few bugs. We did have a talk about what we'll be discussing. It had nothing to do with "hurt" and everything to do with his interest.Of course Alan will continue to shame himself over this with his made-up "I should have asked for proof so I'm a bad journalist" angle. All along all he was interested in was making money off of his reporting about me on his website. His meltdown came immediately after I berated him for being him. And why he keeps humiliating himself with his Andrew nonsense can only be attributed to a lifetime of self-caused problems. Other than that it sadly makes no sense.

[AndrewG]

It will happen by the 19th. That's our hard date for departing in the RV with our grandkids.

Bring on the hurt!

[Rob.Singer]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

[jpfromla]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

It’s up....

[AxelWolf]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

Sigh.

Rob. I know you'll be reading. Mike actually invited me to be there while he interviewed you.
I didn't think there was enough investigation done prior to this interview.

Mike played softball with you, I would have never allowed that, I probably would have pulled the microphone away from Mike.

One of many questions would have been.... if you lied about all that other stuff in the past keeping up that ruse for years, why should anyone believe anything you say now?

You point blank said on the other Forum (not an exact quote) What Nestor and Kane did was illegal and I believe you said something about how they should have went to jail. Why would you say something like that in the first place? Something like that could have certainly been used against you in a court of law, basically you admitted you thought it was illegal, or at least that it could be illegal. You talk about trying to throw people off the trail, the best way to throw people off the trail is to just to keep quiet, be normal, and talk about normal things. Yet, you went out of your way to be deceptive and cantankerous to everyone on the forums for like 9 years in order to throw us off the trail, vent your anxiety, cover your ass or however you want to put it. Yes, I know Rob can't respond here, I will copy and paste it to another forum.

[Rob.Singer]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

Sigh.

Rob. I know you'll be reading. Mike actually invited me to be there while he interviewed you.
I didn't think there was enough investigation done prior to this interview.

Mike played softball with you, I would have never allowed that, I probably would have pulled the microphone away from Mike.

One of many questions would have been.... if you lied about all that other stuff in the past keeping up that ruse for years, why should anyone believe anything you say now?

You point blank said on the other Forum (not an exact quote) What Nestor and Kane did was illegal and I believe you said something about how they should have went to jail. Why would you say something like that in the first place? Something like that could have certainly been used against you in a court of law, basically you admitted you thought it was illegal, or at least that it could be illegal. You talk about trying to throw people off the trail, the best way to throw people off the trail is to just to keep quiet, be normal, and talk about normal things. Yet, you went out of your way to be deceptive and cantankerous to everyone on the forums for like 9 years in order to throw us off the trail, vent your anxiety, cover your ass or however you want to put it. Yes, I know Rob can't respond here, I will copy and paste it to another forum.

axel: First, as I told Mike today, the reason I released this info to you was because after 15+ years of being totally silent on something of this magnitude, I HAD to let it out. I was a professional video poker player...it was necessary to tell someone--even a top critic. Secondary is whether anyone would believe me or not. The cover-up lying for all the years gave me an untrusting reputation, yes. But it all worked. Maybe not the best approach. But again, being believed or not on the DU bug has no effect on what we're doing tomorrow.

I also see where Alan and all his AndrewG wisdom is still hung up on the RV. Fact is, if we cashed out everything we have in retirement funds I could buy two of those stupid things, with money from our careers. He couldn't see that of course because he pours all his into alimony payments and the poker machines.

Regarding why I said what Kane/Nestor did was illegal: first, silence is not golden in every scenario. These guys clearly did something I still believe was illegal--using other people's pre-existing vp winners to collect many of their jackpots on. I never did and would never do that. THAT'S the main reason for what I said on this forum.

PS: go back and read the Wired article. I just told Mike one of the few things they got right is how the bug flowed freely in at least 99 released versions of IGT GameKings between 2002-mid 2009. If I recall, it said the bug was like a cockroach, infecting every version of software released until caught. That should help.

[AxelWolf]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

Sigh.

Rob. I know you'll be reading. Mike actually invited me to be there while he interviewed you.
I didn't think there was enough investigation done prior to this interview.

Mike played softball with you, I would have never allowed that, I probably would have pulled the microphone away from Mike.

One of many questions would have been.... if you lied about all that other stuff in the past keeping up that ruse for years, why should anyone believe anything you say now?

You point blank said on the other Forum (not an exact quote) What Nestor and Kane did was illegal and I believe you said something about how they should have went to jail. Why would you say something like that in the first place? Something like that could have certainly been used against you in a court of law, basically you admitted you thought it was illegal, or at least that it could be illegal. You talk about trying to throw people off the trail, the best way to throw people off the trail is to just to keep quiet, be normal, and talk about normal things. Yet, you went out of your way to be deceptive and cantankerous to everyone on the forums for like 9 years in order to throw us off the trail, vent your anxiety, cover your ass or however you want to put it. Yes, I know Rob can't respond here, I will copy and paste it to another forum.

axel: First, as I told Mike today, the reason I released this info to you was because after 15+ years of being totally silent on something of this magnitude, I HAD to let it out. I was a professional video poker player...it was necessary to tell someone--even a top critic. Secondary is whether anyone would believe me or not. The cover-up lying for all the years gave me an untrusting reputation, yes. But it all worked. Maybe not the best approach. But again, being believed or not on the DU bug has no effect on what we're doing tomorrow.

I also see where Alan and all his AndrewG wisdom is still hung up on the RV. Fact is, if we cashed out everything we have in retirement funds I could buy two of those stupid things, with money from our careers. He couldn't see that of course because he pours all his into alimony payments and the poker machines.

Regarding why I said what Kane/Nestor did was illegal: first, silence is not golden in every scenario. These guys clearly did something I still believe was illegal--using other people's pre-existing vp winners to collect many of their jackpots on. I never did and would never do that. THAT'S the main reason for what I said on this forum.

PS: go back and read the Wired article. I just told Mike one of the few things they got right is how the bug flowed freely in at least 99 released versions of IGT GameKings between 2002-mid 2009. If I recall, it said the bug was like a cockroach, infecting every version of software released until caught. That should help.

but the double up feature that you describe that's always on with the arrows pointing down came out way before 2002. I'm not a hundred percent sure when the don't ask me again version came out but I never saw that version until after 2009 as a matter of fact I want to say I didn't even notice it until about 2012.

[MaxPen]

Sigh.

Rob. I know you'll be reading. Mike actually invited me to be there while he interviewed you.
I didn't think there was enough investigation done prior to this interview.

Mike played softball with you, I would have never allowed that, I probably would have pulled the microphone away from Mike.

One of many questions would have been.... if you lied about all that other stuff in the past keeping up that ruse for years, why should anyone believe anything you say now?

You point blank said on the other Forum (not an exact quote) What Nestor and Kane did was illegal and I believe you said something about how they should have went to jail. Why would you say something like that in the first place? Something like that could have certainly been used against you in a court of law, basically you admitted you thought it was illegal, or at least that it could be illegal. You talk about trying to throw people off the trail, the best way to throw people off the trail is to just to keep quiet, be normal, and talk about normal things. Yet, you went out of your way to be deceptive and cantankerous to everyone on the forums for like 9 years in order to throw us off the trail, vent your anxiety, cover your ass or however you want to put it. Yes, I know Rob can't respond here, I will copy and paste it to another forum.

axel: First, as I told Mike today, the reason I released this info to you was because after 15+ years of being totally silent on something of this magnitude, I HAD to let it out. I was a professional video poker player...it was necessary to tell someone--even a top critic. Secondary is whether anyone would believe me or not. The cover-up lying for all the years gave me an untrusting reputation, yes. But it all worked. Maybe not the best approach. But again, being believed or not on the DU bug has no effect on what we're doing tomorrow.

I also see where Alan and all his AndrewG wisdom is still hung up on the RV. Fact is, if we cashed out everything we have in retirement funds I could buy two of those stupid things, with money from our careers. He couldn't see that of course because he pours all his into alimony payments and the poker machines.

Regarding why I said what Kane/Nestor did was illegal: first, silence is not golden in every scenario. These guys clearly did something I still believe was illegal--using other people's pre-existing vp winners to collect many of their jackpots on. I never did and would never do that. THAT'S the main reason for what I said on this forum.

PS: go back and read the Wired article. I just told Mike one of the few things they got right is how the bug flowed freely in at least 99 released versions of IGT GameKings between 2002-mid 2009. If I recall, it said the bug was like a cockroach, infecting every version of software released until caught. That should help.

but the double up feature that you describe that's always on with the arrows pointing down came out way before 2002. I'm not a hundred percent sure when the don't ask me again version came out but I never saw that version until after 2009 as a matter of fact I want to say I didn't even notice it until about 2012.

Just another hole in the block of Swiss cheese. I'm sure it will get filled with some baffling bullshit soon enough.
I'm going to give this round to Rob. He got what he wanted. A forum, besides here, to tell his story.

[Rob.Singer]

Sigh.

Rob. I know you'll be reading. Mike actually invited me to be there while he interviewed you.
I didn't think there was enough investigation done prior to this interview.

Mike played softball with you, I would have never allowed that, I probably would have pulled the microphone away from Mike.

One of many questions would have been.... if you lied about all that other stuff in the past keeping up that ruse for years, why should anyone believe anything you say now?

You point blank said on the other Forum (not an exact quote) What Nestor and Kane did was illegal and I believe you said something about how they should have went to jail. Why would you say something like that in the first place? Something like that could have certainly been used against you in a court of law, basically you admitted you thought it was illegal, or at least that it could be illegal. You talk about trying to throw people off the trail, the best way to throw people off the trail is to just to keep quiet, be normal, and talk about normal things. Yet, you went out of your way to be deceptive and cantankerous to everyone on the forums for like 9 years in order to throw us off the trail, vent your anxiety, cover your ass or however you want to put it. Yes, I know Rob can't respond here, I will copy and paste it to another forum.

axel: First, as I told Mike today, the reason I released this info to you was because after 15+ years of being totally silent on something of this magnitude, I HAD to let it out. I was a professional video poker player...it was necessary to tell someone--even a top critic. Secondary is whether anyone would believe me or not. The cover-up lying for all the years gave me an untrusting reputation, yes. But it all worked. Maybe not the best approach. But again, being believed or not on the DU bug has no effect on what we're doing tomorrow.

I also see where Alan and all his AndrewG wisdom is still hung up on the RV. Fact is, if we cashed out everything we have in retirement funds I could buy two of those stupid things, with money from our careers. He couldn't see that of course because he pours all his into alimony payments and the poker machines.

Regarding why I said what Kane/Nestor did was illegal: first, silence is not golden in every scenario. These guys clearly did something I still believe was illegal--using other people's pre-existing vp winners to collect many of their jackpots on. I never did and would never do that. THAT'S the main reason for what I said on this forum.

PS: go back and read the Wired article. I just told Mike one of the few things they got right is how the bug flowed freely in at least 99 released versions of IGT GameKings between 2002-mid 2009. If I recall, it said the bug was like a cockroach, infecting every version of software released until caught. That should help.

but the double up feature that you describe that's always on with the arrows pointing down came out way before 2002. I'm not a hundred percent sure when the don't ask me again version came out but I never saw that version until after 2009 as a matter of fact I want to say I didn't even notice it until about 2012.

I'm really no expert on what came out when. But what I described was what I saw and played.

In my career, when software updates are released as newer versions then they are available for some or most of the older versions also. VP machines go thru constant software and some firmware updates/upgrades. And while the floors may or may not have had a lot of infected machines, I picked only one and only played it (with very few exceptions) at every casino I hit. I know and knew nothing about the rest of the machines.

[MaxPen]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

Was that enough hurt for you? Or do you want more?
I'm actually pitying you....I think I'll retire from busting you up. I actually like your stories in a crazy old uncle from the basement sort of way.
You really should apologize to Mickey though. You used him like a rubber fuck doll.

[monet]

Was that enough hurt for you? Or do you want more?
I'm actually pitying you....I think I'll retire from busting you up. I actually like your stories in a crazy old uncle from the basement sort of way.
You really should apologize to Mickey though. You used him like a rubber fuck doll.

I am sure Rob has a perfectly sound explanation.
I was the first to point out how this RV looked Model Perfect.
No soap, sponges, shampoo, personal items...etc etc.
Rob quickly rebutted how he and his wife just got on the road so everything was locked up.
He told us he was getting a tire change and couldn't figure out how to upload the outside pictures.
Seems Totally Believable!
Just because my House, Truck and Cars look lived in and his are spotless doesn't mean he is lying.
Does it?

[mickeycrimm]

So Heather did a great job and got all the bugs worked out of the video-conferencing software. Mike decided to do the interview today as soon as he saw everything was working fine on both ends. I wasn't prepared for that as I just came in from a motorcycle ride but we did it anyway. It's about a half hour in length.

I expect there'll be the usual drama and criticism whenever I show up: my nose is big, I look stupid, I sound dumb, etc. etc. But we both agree it was a fantastic interview.

Bring on the hurt!

Was that enough hurt for you? Or do you want more?
I'm actually pitying you....I think I'll retire from busting you up. I actually like your stories in a crazy old uncle from the basement sort of way.
You really should apologize to Mickey though. You used him like a rubber fuck doll.

Penn, you're a piece of shit maggot. No one controls me. No one makes my mind up for me, except me. I call every motherfucking shot. Meanwhile, peer pressure controls your punk ass. You take your marching orders from axels fucking crowd and suck KJ's dick. Fucking grow up, assclown.

[monet]

Penn, you're a piece of shit maggot. No one controls me. No one makes my mind up for me, except me. I call every motherfucking shot. Meanwhile, peer pressure controls your punk ass. You take your marching orders from axels fucking crown. Fucking grow up, assclown.

AssholeWolf is an Evildoer for sure but let's be fair to MaxPen.
Many stories about AssholeWolf losing TITOs and other shenanigans.
From what I know, MaxPen works solo for the most part.
He may team up here and there but he runs his own show.
I not only have this information from the net but from people who actually know him as well.
I understand you got to be King Troll when Trolled but MaxPen is one of the good guys if good guys exist in Vegas.
Which they really do not as I am sure you know living in Vegas for many years.
MaxPen can't be very bad as he is Armed to the Teeth and is strongly Conservative from what I know.
Pretty good at what AssholeWolf likes to call Grey.
Which is complete Bullshit... no such thing as Grey!

[mickeycrimm]

Penn, you're a piece of shit maggot. No one controls me. No one makes my mind up for me, except me. I call every motherfucking shot. Meanwhile, peer pressure controls your punk ass. You take your marching orders from axels fucking crown. Fucking grow up, assclown.

AssholeWolf is an Evildoer for sure but let's be fair to MaxPen.
Many stories about AssholeWolf losing TITOs and other shenanigans.
From what I know, MaxPen works solo for the most part.
He may team up here and there but he runs his own show.
I not only have this information from the net but from people who actually know him as well.
I understand you got to be King Troll when Trolled but MaxPen is one of the good guys if good guys exist in Vegas.
Which they really do not as I am sure you know living in Vegas for many years.
MaxPen can't be very bad as he is Armed to the Teeth and is strongly Conservative from what I know.
Pretty good at what AssholeWolf likes to call Grey.
Which is complete Bullshit... no such thing as Grey!

Penn made a conscience decision to attack me and has done it multiple times. That means he is not a good guy. He's a piece of shit. And as far as machine plays go he's a bottomfeeder.