Singer RV Receipt

[Deech]

Axel, you nailed everything I had written down. My only addition is that if a female uses the old style cursive "L" in the middle initial, then they would likely use the old style "A" to start the last name. Since the first "Argentino" used the old styled "A" things were changed for the second signature (a printed style "A"). There was confusion in the second signing of "Argentino". After the "A" the rg was natural (identical to the first name) then came a correction and a large case "E". Sorry, no one does that in a signature.

[AxelWolf]

Yeah, you know what, I don't know why I am thinking his wife filled out that phony bill of sales receipt. She is probably a very decent person (despite bad judgement early in life). The handwriting on that sales receipt is not that of a woman. It is most definitely a man....like a 71 year old man with a shaky hand and bad handwriting.

The same person that signed her name, signed the sellers line. Look at that C It's definitely the same person, also look at the E's its very odd one would include a upper case E with that design, that seems have been done deliberately. Obviously, robs signature would naturally be less shaky since he's had plenty of practice and he's able to go fast. Her name was not a signature it's deliberately a slow-paced standard(offbeat a little make it look good) cursive. The seller's name seems to only include initials. Of course this would be on purpose if A: you want to make sure you weren't actually forging someone's name. B: Not enough evidence left behind so someone could actually research that person who supposedly signed it. With only a few letters it's a lot easier to go fast and make it look more like a signature.
I actually think the same person signed everything.
You will notice that all the signatures have a slight right-leaning slant to them. The faster you go the more pronounced at forward right lean would be. Notice the r and the J at the beginning of the seller's name and Rob's name. They have a right diagonal lean. You'll notice in his signature or he's going a little faster the E leads into the N almost identical to her signature, and that of course someone purposely designed to E a little different but there's no denying the flow and the very similar N. they're slightly different because an actual signature is going to move faster. Again , look at the C Both C's have super similar characteristics, notice they both have the same downwards slanting angles.

The funny part is... who includes an 'and' while they're signing something(unless you're signing a greeting card from you and your significant other)? It as if somebody was concentrating on what they had to do and decided to just copy the line below that was printed out... by doing so they accidentally included the 'and' and didn't even realize it.

All valid points Axel. Btw, I referenced the similar "C"s 9 hours ago (post #20).

The sellers signature and no written name is clearly an attempt to be sure no one would be able to attempt to look up the person for verification.

Come on now, you damn well know that no one is reading all of your posts to their entirety.

[kewlJ]

The same person that signed her name, signed the sellers line. Look at that C It's definitely the same person, also look at the E's its very odd one would include a upper case E with that design, that seems have been done deliberately. Obviously, robs signature would naturally be less shaky since he's had plenty of practice and he's able to go fast. Her name was not a signature it's deliberately a slow-paced standard(offbeat a little make it look good) cursive. The seller's name seems to only include initials. Of course this would be on purpose if A: you want to make sure you weren't actually forging someone's name. B: Not enough evidence left behind so someone could actually research that person who supposedly signed it. With only a few letters it's a lot easier to go fast and make it look more like a signature.
I actually think the same person signed everything.
You will notice that all the signatures have a slight right-leaning slant to them. The faster you go the more pronounced at forward right lean would be. Notice the r and the J at the beginning of the seller's name and Rob's name. They have a right diagonal lean. You'll notice in his signature or he's going a little faster the E leads into the N almost identical to her signature, and that of course someone purposely designed to E a little different but there's no denying the flow and the very similar N. they're slightly different because an actual signature is going to move faster. Again , look at the C Both C's have super similar characteristics, notice they both have the same downwards slanting angles.

The funny part is... who includes an 'and' while they're signing something(unless you're signing a greeting card from you and your significant other)? It as if somebody was concentrating on what they had to do and decided to just copy the line below that was printed out... by doing so they accidentally included the 'and' and didn't even realize it.

All valid points Axel. Btw, I referenced the similar "C"s 9 hours ago (post #20).

The sellers signature and no written name is clearly an attempt to be sure no one would be able to attempt to look up the person for verification.

Come on now, you damn well know that no one is reading all of your posts to their entirety.

it was 3 whole lines.

[AxelWolf]

Axel, you nailed everything I had written down. My only addition is that if a female uses the old style cursive "L" in the middle initial, then they would likely use the old style "A" to start the last name. Since the first "Argentino" used the old styled "A" things were changed for the second signature (a printed style "A"). There was confusion in the second signing of "Argentino". After the "A" the rg was natural (identical to the first name) then came a correction and a large case "E". Sorry, no one does that in a signature.

Oh, I'm sure there's tons more not even
Worth mentioning. They had me at the C.

I posted up on Wizard of Vegas. Handwriting expert: "Easiest money I've ever made!" "I guess they were trying to get caught?"

[kewlJ]

I posted up on Wizard of Vegas. Handwriting expert: "Easiest money I've ever made!" "I guess they were trying to get caught?"

I was thinking about the "wanting to get caught thing" earlier. I don't think Rob wanted to be caught because he told Mike "that he just had to tell someone". If that is the case, he surely wanted those people (us) to believe him.

I think what happened is Rob really thought the pictures in the RV would seal the deal. That is the part he misjudged. This thing today, he probably didn't think would fly, but had to try. It just smacks of desperation. I mean 20 years of work is going down the drain. That's why he didn't even post it, he had mickey do it.

The phony pictures was a good try. But this today, is amature hour.

[AxelWolf]

Yeah, you know what, I don't know why I am thinking his wife filled out that phony bill of sales receipt. She is probably a very decent person (despite bad judgement early in life). The handwriting on that sales receipt is not that of a woman. It is most definitely a man....like a 71 year old man with a shaky hand and bad handwriting.

The same person that signed her name, signed the sellers line. Look at that C It's definitely the same person, also look at the E's its very odd one would include a upper case E with that design, that seems have been done deliberately. Obviously, robs signature would naturally be less shaky since he's had plenty of practice and he's able to go fast. Her name was not a signature it's deliberately a slow-paced standard(offbeat a little make it look good) cursive. The seller's name seems to only include initials. Of course this would be on purpose if A: you want to make sure you weren't actually forging someone's name. B: Not enough evidence left behind so someone could actually research that person who supposedly signed it. With only a few letters it's a lot easier to go fast and make it look more like a signature.
I actually think the same person signed everything.
You will notice that all the signatures have a slight right-leaning slant to them. The faster you go the more pronounced at forward right lean would be. Notice the r and the J at the beginning of the seller's name and Rob's name. They have a right diagonal lean. You'll notice in his signature or he's going a little faster the E leads into the N almost identical to her signature, and that of course someone purposely designed to E a little different but there's no denying the flow and the very similar N. they're slightly different because an actual signature is going to move faster. Again , look at the C Both C's have super similar characteristics, notice they both have the same downwards slanting angles.

The funny part is... who includes an 'and' while they're signing something(unless you're signing a greeting card from you and your significant other)? It as if somebody was concentrating on what they had to do and decided to just copy the line below that was printed out... by doing so they accidentally included the 'and' and didn't even realize it.

Serious question- are you a homosexual?

Why, are you looking for a date? If so, you need to keep looking elsewhere, because the serious answer is no, not even Bi curious or whatever they're saying nowadays. But, If I was, I would be proud since I'm fairly certain people are born that way.

Just out of curiosity, why did that particular post prompt such a question? Is it so scary close to being accurate that some type of criticism must follow? Perhaps gay people have a special ability to detect forgeries?

[MaxPen]

This episode of As Grandpa Newell's Dreams Turn seems to be coming to a close.

How much longer until stageboy Mickey rides in on the Singer bologna pony with the storyline for the next episode?

I'm getting the popcorn ready.....GOAT

[jbjb]

I'm not sure which is more hilarious. This new "bet" here or Don S. and Eliot J. feuding on bjtf.

[kewlJ]

I'm not sure which is more hilarious. This new "bet" here or Don S. and Eliot J. feuding on bjtf.

Oh come on that "feud" is tame. Not even worthy of the term "feud".

Don just felt the need to let Eliot know he didn't appreciate his acts of treason. As you know I am a strong proponent of frequently reminding (t)Eliot of that as well. he has earned that, so good for Don.

The odder thing about BJTF is that BoSox still acts like a reasonable member of the community there and here, just a complete jackass and troll.

[AxelWolf]

I'm not sure which is more hilarious. This new "bet" here or Don S. and Eliot J. feuding on bjtf.

Oh come on that "feud" is tame. Not even worthy of the term "feud".

Don just felt the need to let Eliot know he didn't appreciate his acts of treason. As you know I am a strong proponent of frequently reminding (t)Eliot of that as well. he has earned that, so good for Don.

The odder thing about BJTF is that BoSox still acts like a reasonable member of the community there and here, just a complete jackass and troll.

link please.

[mickeycrimm]

On the receipt it says the vehicle will be registered in Hanson County, South Dakota. KJocchio and others who looked into Rob's background should have seen his Emery, South Dakota address. Emery is in Hanson County. The sale would have taken place 8 years ago.

When I looked into Rob's background I seen the Emery, South Dakota address and thought it was strange. When questioned about it Rob said it was a good summer spot, fairly close to his kids, and he registered his RV(s)'s there because it was so cheap compared to other states. He made these claims right here on VCT a few years ago.

Sad...... LMAO
You went from a respected machine hustler to a washed up troll's bitchboy. Congrats.

Unlike a piss poor hustler like you I use legitimate strategy and all available information. It's clear you don't use all available information. That makes you a donkey. Why are you afraid of information? You've pretty much shit all over your reputation....which wasn't much to begin with, Mr. nickel hustler.

[mickeycrimm]

I propose a wager between the Singer doubters and Rob Singer on this RV controversy. How about 10 Grand each? Let's solve this once and for all. Who's in? Rob? Singer Doubters? We'll get Anthony Curtis to hold the money with a small rake. Should be easy money for all you big time gamblers.

I am in!

For Rob to win, he has to drive to Las Vegas in the RV, and show the RV and registration to me, Anthony Curtis and whoever else is part of the wager. Anything short of that and he losses. I will even spring for the gas money. 300 miles @ 5 miles a gallon is 60 gallons of gas x 2 ways is 120 gallons. Lets make it an even $300 for gas.

But the money has to be deposited ahead of time. I can make arrangements with Anthony as early as this weekend.

I would like to go a little more than 10 grand, maybe as much as 50 grand, but want to give other that may be interested a chance to get a piece of the action.

He offeredd to let you see it in Boulder. You could have ended everything right then by going and seeing whether he had it or not. But no you punked out like you always do. Have you forgotten that Rob said the RV will be available for inspection in Phoenix this fall when he puts it up for sale. We'll see what kind of excuse you use then.

[mickeycrimm]

You are another idiot with no reading comprehension. Keep rereading my original post until you get it. But the fat lady hasn't sung. Not as long as Singer has that big hook/cock in all your noses. You idiots follow him around like like little bitch pups. You hang on his every word. You are just hoping and praying that he will post here again so you can get your jones taken care of. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Fucking sheeple!!!!

The hook in his cock probably came from beating you upside the face with it for so many years. We really don't need anymore details though. Next you'll be telling us whether it bends left or right. You should just keep it in your ass where it seems to be fitting like a glove.

Hey, KJ's top. How often do you and KJocchio hook up? Twice a week. So you like chewing on KJ's cock after he's had it up your ass? That's great, mr. flunky hustler.

[mickeycrimm]

For Rob to win, he has to drive to Las Vegas in the RV, and show the RV and registration to me, Anthony Curtis and whoever else is part of the wager. Anything short of that and he losses.

You know what. Based on todays developments, I want to amend my conditions. I can see Rob printing out a very phony looking registration. I am going to need the registration verified as real by maybe a notary or DVM representative. I will pay the fee for such a service.

My conditions are easier. Just show up in the posted Newell or the 2011 copy....LMAO....The registration and title can even have the kid's name on it.

Hey, I have an idea. Since Rob is going to sell the RV why dont' you make him an offer on it?....Oh, yeah, thats right, takes money to do that. You don't have any. Don't worry. The LV casinos will be opening soon and you can go back to hustling credits.

[mickeycrimm]

I am sorry to do this, but I am sitting here on a Friday night having a couple beers, thinking and laughing about not only today's latest development, but this whole recent charade.

Let's recap just from when Alan, roped Rob into the interview that made him look so bad. By the end of that night, in addition to those of us that have been calling for proof for a year now, Michael Shackleford and Dan Druff both basically called for Rob to show something.

So with the pressure mounting Rob drove to a dealership 7 miles from his home, pretending to be a perspective buyer. Took pictures of himself or had someone take pictures of him in a similar RV, (the year was off by 3 years). Very "staged" pcitures, obviously of a showroom RV with no personal effects. I mean how lame is that right there?

When he was caught with the staged pictures of a showroom RV, Rob took it to the next step and produced, through his accomplice, a phony "generic" receipt printed out from the internet, again with no company letterhead or logo. And no state seal that was required. And no identifiable name of the representative of the company.

I mean seriously....how funny is this shit? You couldn't make this shit up! The lengths this now desperate troll will go to. While laughingly funny, also very sad.

Like I said, Rob has a big hook in your nose. Your every waking moment is thinking of him. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

[mickeycrimm]

When Rob inevitably does return–because we know he has no shame–he will try to play this off as some elaborate troll. The staged photos/receipt didn't work, so now he'll say something like he just did it to see how obsessed everyone else is. As if it's not an act of obsession to drive to an RV dealership, pretend to be interested in buying an 6-figure RV, take blatantly fake photos, and waste a salesperson's time to score internet points.

Anyone have any guesses as to who this goatshoes sockpuppet is?

[mickeycrimm]

I posted up on Wizard of Vegas. Handwriting expert: "Easiest money I've ever made!" "I guess they were trying to get caught?"

I was thinking about the "wanting to get caught thing" earlier. I don't think Rob wanted to be caught because he told Mike "that he just had to tell someone". If that is the case, he surely wanted those people (us) to believe him.

I think what happened is Rob really thought the pictures in the RV would seal the deal. That is the part he misjudged. This thing today, he probably didn't think would fly, but had to try. It just smacks of desperation. I mean 20 years of work is going down the drain. That's why he didn't even post it, he had mickey do it.

The phony pictures was a good try. But this today, is amature hour.

Shackleford was the first to post the pics of the receipt.

[Bob21]

I propose a wager between the Singer doubters and Rob Singer on this RV controversy. How about 10 Grand each? Let's solve this once and for all. Who's in? Rob? Singer Doubters? We'll get Anthony Curtis to hold the money with a small rake. Should be easy money for all you big time gamblers.

I am in!

For Rob to win, he has to drive to Las Vegas in the RV, and show the RV and registration to me, Anthony Curtis and whoever else is part of the wager. Anything short of that and he losses. I will even spring for the gas money. 300 miles @ 5 miles a gallon is 60 gallons of gas x 2 ways is 120 gallons. Lets make it an even $300 for gas.

But the money has to be deposited ahead of time. I can make arrangements with Anthony as early as this weekend.

I would like to go a little more than 10 grand, maybe as much as 50 grand, but want to give other that may be interested a chance to get a piece of the action.

He offeredd to let you see it in Boulder. You could have ended everything right then by going and seeing whether he had it or not. But no you punked out like you always do. Have you forgotten that Rob said the RV will be available for inspection in Phoenix this fall when he puts it up for sale. We'll see what kind of excuse you use then.

Mickey, not that I care much, but I’m surprised anybody at this stage of the game holds out any hope that Rob owns a Newell. If he owns a Newell, why did he go to a RV dealership in Phoenix and pose as a model in one that wasn’t his. Why not model in the one that he claims he owns?

I’m also surprised anybody cares about this sales receipt so much. I guess there wasn’t much to do today and it’s fun to pick apart Rob’s latest attempt at showing he owns a Newell. I would think that question was settled long ago with the For Sale 2008 Newell photos.

This thread has exploided to over 100 posts in less than a day, so it shows how much interest there is in this story, even though it was pretty settled with the photos.

At least it made Kj come back from the dead like Lazarus. I really believe the only thing that gives Kj’s life meaning is his relationship with Rob. That’s sad.

[The Boz]

Damn, 1 day away and look what I miss.

Count me as closer to Mickey in that I’m still not sure. And still consider it possible Singer is fucking with everyone. Just not in the way many are thinking.

I will say if people are willing to wager significant money, it isn’t hard to prove. Even without a wager, the way it is bothering some, get in a car or plane and go meet him. The hell with terms and details, either he or a close family member owns the RV listed on the sales slip or they don’t.

Surely a small amount to spent to prove the guy a liar once and for all. That would be priceless to a few for some reason.

[Bob21]

Damn, 1 day away and look what I miss.

Count me as closer to Mickey in that I’m still not sure. And still consider it possible Singer is fucking with everyone. Just not in the way many are thinking.

I will say if people are willing to wager significant money, it isn’t hard to prove. Even without a wager, the way it is bothering some, get in a car or plane and go meet him. The hell with terms and details, either he or a close family member owns the RV listed on the sales slip or they don’t.

Surely a small amount to spent to prove the guy a liar once and for all. That would be priceless to a few for some reason.

Boz, from day one Rob’s story made no sense. They were holes in every part of it.

One of the main things Rob said that was incorrect is on the statue of limitation. There is none on tax fraud, so Rob could be spending time in jail if his story is true. And Rob knew this was cheating because of what happened to Kane and Nestor.

That’s the ironic thing about this play. If Rob truly did it, he’d have taken it to his grave since he wouldn’t want the IRS coming after him, and spending his last days in jail. But if he didn’t do it, he has nothing to worry about, so he could spend time trolling this group and having fun.

By Rob coming out and saying he did it almost proves he didn’t do it.