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  1. #161
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You have gone hard after Jacobsen for doing the same thing. Since you are now reinstated to WoV here is your chance to start a thread and go after Bob Dancer. The thread will surely get a lot of views, most likely dominate the top ten.

    KJ, we are looking forward to your demonstrating your expertise in taking Dancer down.
    Your retarded mickey. (sorry if that breaks some sort of alliance I didn't even know we had. )

    I don't go seeking trouble or confrontations, although they seem to find me fairly often....too often. with players that are intentional misleading other people and players I have called out a total of 3. There have probably been 100 over the years that I thought were making up or exaggerating claims. I have called out 3! It has to be really egregious for me to say something. The blackjack guy and Singer were really egregious, IMO. I think AP's have not only a right but a responsibility to call out that BS.

    Now the 3rd, Moses, didn't really hit that really egregious level. I knew he couldn't have been playing blackjack for a living almost immediately upon encountering him. The place he plays, with only a handful of playable games and very sweaty just would never allow a person to play the stakes needed to do so, day in and day out for years or decades. So while I knew he was at least exaggerating his claims, he wasn't really hurting anyone, like the first 2 people I called out. Then Moses started attacking me and my credibility and that shouldn't even have mattered or had an effect. He still wasn't really hurting anyone. He escalated things with personal attacks, so I called him out as a fraud, or at least someone exaggerating his claims. He deserved that, but I still wished I hadn't. His claims hadn't risen to the level that they were harming anyone else.

    Now these guys supposedly on our side, that go to work for the "dark side"....same thing. I don't voice my opinion on every one of them. First, while I am an AP and don't like any AP that consults for or works for the dark side, they have a right to do so. Everyone has a right to make a living. And for some of them, it is just about the math. They are so into the math, they relish any opportunity to put it to work. So while I don't like it, I generally don't say too much. Eliot was a special case. I don't want to rehash it again, but the seminars only for the casino industry where he exposed plays they didn't even know about, was a whole different level. And the word on the street that he gave up information on players that he knew or knew of even a higher level. Eliot denies that. Other people continue to insist it happened.

    So yeah, these things are a completely different level. A level not seen since probably Revere and he was way before my time. So, yeah, given the chance to express my opinion I did so. Well I guess Max Rubin is in there too at that level. I never really had much chance to interact with Max and now I understand he is not in good health. But whatever. Yeah being on a forum such as this where I am free to voice my opinion of Eliot I did so. I didn't go after him in that I didn't bring the subject up, but when brought up, yeah I voiced my opinion.

    WoV is not such a forum where members are free to do that, so I won't. That's all there is to it.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 06-01-2020 at 12:34 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #162
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    he wasn't really hurting anyone, like the first 2 people I called out.
    Who are the people that Singer hurt, and how did he hurt them?

    How did you become acquainted with them, or become aware that they had been hurt by Singer?

  3. #163
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Who are the people that Singer hurt, and how did he hurt them?

    How did you become acquainted with them, or become aware that they had been hurt by Singer?
    Coach Belly, if it was just this forum and the small membership here you could make the case you are making. Although Dan Druff frequently reminds us that there are many. many "lurkers" so who knows how many people have been harmed.

    But it goes beyond that. Singer wrote book(s) on his stupid claims that defy the math. That takes it to a whole different level of intentionally trying to harm players. That should be called out.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  4. #164
    The total number of his books sold are probably less than 100. I've never even seen them in the gaming section of libraries. I've seen plenty of John Patrick books though.

  5. #165
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    who knows how many people have been harmed.
    Do you know of any people that have been harmed?

  6. #166
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You have gone hard after Jacobsen for doing the same thing. Since you are now reinstated to WoV here is your chance to start a thread and go after Bob Dancer. The thread will surely get a lot of views, most likely dominate the top ten.

    KJ, we are looking forward to your demonstrating your expertise in taking Dancer down.
    Your retarded mickey. (sorry if that breaks some sort of alliance I didn't even know we had. )

    I don't go seeking trouble or confrontations, although they seem to find me fairly often....too often. with players that are intentional misleading other people and players I have called out a total of 3. There have probably been 100 over the years that I thought were making up or exaggerating claims. I have called out 3! It has to be really egregious for me to say something. The blackjack guy and Singer were really egregious, IMO. I think AP's have not only a right but a responsibility to call out that BS.

    Now the 3rd, Moses, didn't really hit that really egregious level. I knew he couldn't have been playing blackjack for a living almost immediately upon encountering him. The place he plays, with only a handful of playable games and very sweaty just would never allow a person to play the stakes needed to do so, day in and day out for years or decades. So while I knew he was at least exaggerating his claims, he wasn't really hurting anyone, like the first 2 people I called out. Then Moses started attacking me and my credibility and that shouldn't even have mattered or had an effect. He still wasn't really hurting anyone. He escalated things with personal attacks, so I called him out as a fraud, or at least someone exaggerating his claims. He deserved that, but I still wished I hadn't. His claims hadn't risen to the level that they were harming anyone else.

    Now these guys supposedly on our side, that go to work for the "dark side"....same thing. I don't voice my opinion on every one of them. First, while I am an AP and don't like any AP that consults for or works for the dark side, they have a right to do so. Everyone has a right to make a living. And for some of them, it is just about the math. They are so into the math, they relish any opportunity to put it to work. So while I don't like it, I generally don't say too much. Eliot was a special case. I don't want to rehash it again, but the seminars only for the casino industry where he exposed plays they didn't even know about, was a whole different level. And the word on the street that he gave up information on players that he knew or knew of even a higher level. Eliot denies that. Other people continue to insist it happened.

    So yeah, these things are a completely different level. A level not seen since probably Revere and he was way before my time. So, yeah, given the chance to express my opinion I did so. Well I guess Max Rubin is in there too at that level. I never really had much chance to interact with Max and now I understand he is not in good health. But whatever. Yeah being on a forum such as this where I am free to voice my opinion of Eliot I did so. I didn't go after him in that I didn't bring the subject up, but when brought up, yeah I voiced my opinion.

    WoV is not such a forum where members are free to do that, so I won't. That's all there is to it.
    That's what I thought. You are pure chickenshit. And there is no way Singer did even a thousandth of the damage Dancer did to the video poker community. You sir, are a coward.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #167
    Seems someone was at Boulder Station last night and early this morning.
    How long do they let you park this beast in the regular lot??
    Anyways, thought of Singer when I seen it, so I snapped a photo.
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  8. #168
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Seems someone was at Boulder Station last night and early this morning.
    How long do they let you park this beast in the regular lot??
    Anyways, thought of Singer when I seen it, so I snapped a photo.
    Amazing that some homeless didn’t claim it as their own while the owner was in the casino. Or am I thinking of Sams Town where the homeless have a camp on the corner and sell what looks like junk bicycles?

    I don’t get out that way much but the visual sticks in my mind.

  9. #169
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Seems someone was at Boulder Station last night and early this morning.
    How long do they let you park this beast in the regular lot??
    Anyways, thought of Singer when I seen it, so I snapped a photo.
    I wouldn't be caught as a slime in the Boulder Station parking lot with our Newell.

    I'll be waiting for maxpen and kew to leave their shithole living joints in LV and be on-site when my RV goes up for sale in Az. this fall. I'll be video recording the expressions on their slug faces, and I'll even let them stay at one of my houses in the Phx. area if they can take the luxury.

    I wouldn't usually offer this to a faggot and another of his fellow losers. But the look on their faces and the sweat pouring down will be worth it.

  10. #170
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    I'll be waiting for maxpen and kew to leave their shithole living joints in LV and be on-site when my RV goes up for sale in Az. this fall. I'll be video recording the expressions on their slug faces, and I'll even let them stay at one of my houses in the Phx. area if they can take the luxury.
    YOU don't own any houses in the Phoenix area or any other area for that matter according to public records and that would include any properties paid for in cash. Your daughter and son in law own a property and are kind enough to allow their broke OLD, father to stay there during the winter months so he doesn't have to sleep in his pull behind trailer/camper in Pahrump again.

    But don't let that stop you from your make believe fantasy. Perhaps you can post a handwritten deed to such a property in your own handwritting.

  11. #171
    As I have stated previously, it is safe to disclose a VIN number. There are no ramifications as. if, offering a SNN. If you are truly selling the RV, then offer up the VIN number so the forum can do some research. The VIN has to be disclosed when you sell the vehicle. Hell, the VIN is on the dashboard of the vehicle so why the hinderance?

    Interesting that you are willing to take videos of individuals viewing the vehicle in Phoenix but you cannot do likewise in advance, on any trip, as asked. Have your son take a few quick pictures. This must be the Mystery Machine. I want to see Scooby Doo.

  12. #172
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    As I have stated previously, it is safe to disclose a VIN number. There are no ramifications as. if, offering a SNN. If you are truly selling the RV, then offer up the VIN number so the forum can do some research. The VIN has to be disclosed when you sell the vehicle. Hell, the VIN is on the dashboard of the vehicle so why the hinderance?

    Interesting that you are willing to take videos of individuals viewing the vehicle in Phoenix but you cannot do likewise in advance, on any trip, as asked. Have your son take a few quick pictures. This must be the Mystery Machine. I want to see Scooby Doo.
    Gonna be a long wait on that......LOL

    I got my bag packed to go see this elusive Newell with the red interior though. Can't wait to hear the excuse in the fall......tic-toc

  13. #173
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post

    Mr Mickey Crimm not only can stand on both sides of the tracks but he can also straddle them and be the train that's both coming and going.
    Yes, it's hilarious, Andrew. BTW, how much of a retainer does your boss want to take Alan's lawsuit against Rob? It has to be substantial because there is little chance to win. Plus Alan isn't going to take the money to your boss when he can take it to the casino.
    Suing Rob.Singer would be like juicing a dried fruit.
    Some of the forums, recent memories. Classic !!

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