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  1. #81
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    I'm going to have to come to Mickey's defense on this one, even though I know he doesn't need anybody to defend him.

    Kj, your statement is right out of the liberal playbook. You are so indoctrinated with liberal ideas, you probably don't even know you're doing it. Liberals love to use this kind of argument against conservatives. They say we use government programs, so how can we claim to be against them? In their warped little minds they see this as being a hypocrite. They think its being contradictory.

    Here's a newsflash for you Kj. You can be against a government program and still use it.

    A great example is Social Security. I think social security is the worst government program ever. I mean it was voted unconstitutional by our Supreme Court. The only way FDR got it passed is by stacking the Supreme Court.

    In a free country, I don't think the government should be able to force me to set aside some of my earnings for my retirement. This should be my choice. I should get to do with my money as I want.

    But this is now outside my control, since our federal government has passed the Social Security law, so I abide by the law and pay my social security taxes. I do this so I don't go to jail. I don't do it because I think it's a good program. I'd much rather keep all my money and invest it or spend it the way I wanted.

    But guess what I'll do when I come of age to start collecting social security, I'll use it. Why? Because I've probably paid at least a million dollars into it. And just because I use it that doesn't mean I agree with it. I know this is a hard concept for liberals to understand.

    This is what I've been trying to explain to accountinquestion; there are many laws I don't agree with, but I still abide by them since I don't want to go to jail. That's what accountinquestion should be doing to stay out of jail. He seems to like to smoke weed in states where he knows it's against the law, and he could go to jail. This makes no sense to me. I hope accountinquestion leans to abide by our laws, so he can stay out of jail. He seems like a good guy.
    Most dems just love FDR.

    They rarely mention that he interned tens of thousands of American citizens during WWII.

    Oh and he hid the fact that he had polio to the public so that he would get elected. Since polio was considered a death sentence at the time his election prospects would have been bleak if he was honest with the public.
    Most conservatives blame FDR for creating the Social Security Retirement Accounts but not investing the money in the stock market. The problem with investing the money in the stock market was the year was 1935, smack dab in the middle of the Great Depression. The market crashed in 1929 but didn't bottom out until 1934. Then it was a painfully slow climb upward. If FDR would have created a national retirement program based on the stock market he not only would have been just a one-term president he would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of town. In 1935 all Americans blamed the stock market for the depression.
    I’m not blaming him for not investing the retirement accounts in the stock market. I don’t think the program was a good idea for people to be forced to pay into something that they may not have wanted. Especially so in the mid 1930’s when life expectancies where in the low 60’s. But like many government programs if they don’t forcibly compel people to pay into, there won’t be enough volunteers to keep the Ponzi scheme afloat.
    Oh, and employers are made to pay a matching .0625% as well.

  2. #82
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr Crimm, I'm sorry but you do come across as a believer and as an advocate of Mr Singer. I realize you have said you are not but you have also made comments that indicate you are. Frankly, Mr Crimm, I don't know what side you're on and I would say it appears you are playing both sides.

    With that said, it doesn't matter to me which side you're on but understand you are sending mixed messages. If you are just providing Mr Singer a chance to present his photos then just post the photos without comment.

    There are others on this forum who play both sides and that's okay too. Presenting both sides by one person is a healthy form of discussion.

    Then there are those who will attack any side and not to promote a healthy discussion but because they are trolls and think they should attack and criticize because they can. They help and contribute nothing.

    For me it doesn't matter anymore. Mr Singer could be dring a factory new $3-million Newell with solid gold bath fixtures and its meaningless. He's admitted to lying, he's admitted to hiding and covering up proof, he's even admitted to manipulating tax laws, and he's admitted to backing out of wagers with the Arci tax papers being one of them.

    Mr Singer has no credibility and there's no reason to even follow this discussion any more. He has the ability to fabricate anything he wants, and what good does that do anyone?

    It's a waste of time. This discussion is a waste of time. I have better things to do.
    Yet you still comment as an advocate for the law firm you work for that has Mr Alan as a client. Hopefully the practice you work for is doing ok through this crisis.

    I will say, as one who has given Mr Alan so much shit over the years, I hope he is doing OK. I personally hate to see friendships go bad as it appears this one has.

    Either way, I want to apologize for any negative comments I have made towards your firm’s client over the years. And only wish him the best in every endeavor.

  3. #83
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Kjocchio, you just can't help yourself. I haven't defended Rob. I use all available information. You should try it sometime. All you do is cherry pick information to see what you want to use, and ignore any exculpatory evidence. Then to go even further you make shit up and out the thin blue air. You're pathetic and embarrassing. End of story.

    Now, why don't you tell us more about those tax papers of Rob's you say you are in possession of. How about putting up some pics of them.
    I am not going to post stuff that it is illegal for me to post, despite your goading/trolling.

    Mickey, I admire, am even jealous of your gambling math abilities. I admire your advantage player accomplishments. But on these forums you have become really dishonest and quiet frankly an idiot. I mean you are on social security and Medicare and while there is nothing wrong with that, you claim neither is a socialist government program. You are either lying to yourself or like I said a damn idiot.
    There you go again, KJocchio. You just make the shit up as you go. I've explained many times on this forum that Americans are libertarian/socialists so you don't get to just make bullshit up out of thin air. Damn, boy, you've got a knack for that. It's why you are so lacking in credibilty. Everyone see's that you just make shit up.

    The difference is the degree of socialism we believe in. Taxation in any form is a socialist policy. So if you believe in any form of taxation no matter how small you are a socialist to a degree. I personally think we currently have a blend of capitalism and socialism that is about right. I don't believe in cuts to taxes or entitlements. But at the same time I don't think we should create new entitlements. I think we are good where we are at. That puts me in the middle of the road in this country. You can deny deny deny that but you won't have any credibility doing it.

    Social Security/Medicare is a retirement account. Americans pay into for many many years then receive payments when they retire. Those who draw SS are not getting it for nothing. They payed in for a lifetime to get it. It is nothing like welfare.

    So your trying to paint me as an anti-socialist that works socialist policies is a fale narrative. I'm a socialist to a degree, you're a socialist to a degree, everyone is a socialist to a degree. But I'm a much lower degree of socialist then say someone like redietz who is a socialist on steroids.

    So you are either lying to yourself or a damn idiot.
    Mickey, I'm going to have to correct a couple things you're saying here. You make this statement: "Taxation in any form is a socialist policy." That's not a correct statement. What defines socialism is policies where the government uses their power to redistribute wealth. Here's the definition: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

    You can have taxation without any socialist policies. Before FDR, our country had almost no taxation for socialist polices. The taxation was used to run our government functions like the fire department, police, etc, and to pay for our military, and our roads, etc. None of this has anything to do with "socialism".

    Every government needs some form of taxation to run. Socialism means the government is taxing us for the purpose of redistributing wealth more or less. Social Security would be seen as a socialist program, since the government determines how much you get; as I'm sure you know it's not just based on what you put in. All the Democrat poverty programs are socialist programs. Even handouts to farmer, which my ancestors were, have adapted socialist programs.

    Socialist programs have crept into almost every part of our life. Most people don't know to what extent. When my great grandfathers were farming they weren't getting government handouts. My uncles today are. They don't agree with much of it since they are conservatives, but they have to take advantage of these handouts otherwise they couldn't compete with other farmers.

    The government (through the liberal Democrats) have pushed more and more of their socialist programs on our country, to where people and businesses can't operate unless they take advantage of them. And then the Dems (and people like Kj) say see how much the government is helping you. The better policy would be to stay out of it and let people keep what they make. Only tax people to run the government, build roads, and defend our freedom, and make laws to force competition by breaking up monopolies. This is what our government should be doing.

    Also, true conservatives don't believe social security has anything to do with investing in stocks. It has to do with this is NOT the role of government in a free society. In a free society, I should be able to spend my money the way I want. Yes, the government needs to tax me to be able to operate, and to defend our nation. But it shouldn't be in the business of managing our retirement accounts.

    I think what you're thinking of with regard to Social Security is what George Bush wanted to do with it. He wanted to give people some control over their own retirement money (Social Security money), by letting them invest it like they wanted to. Obviously, this didn't go over well with the Democrats, because they see social security as just another tax that the government can spend how they want to.

    Hope this helps.

  4. #84

  5. #85
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    So do you or do you not want to walk back your accusations that Mickeys reputations are ruined in the AP community? B
    I didn't say mickey's reputation was ruined throughout the AP community. I don't speak for the AP community, I was speaking only for myself.

    Boz, you seem to want to make this about me. Or me vs mickey. It is neither.

    This is about Rob. The guy went to an RV dealership. Posed as a customer and took pictures of himself inside an RV on the lot of the dealership to pass off as his own. End of story! End of Rob's double up bug claim, because this is what he chose as proof of the claim.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #86
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    So do you or do you not want to walk back your accusations that Mickeys reputations are ruined in the AP community? B
    I didn't say mickey's reputation was ruined throughout the AP community. I don't speak for the AP community, I was speaking only for myself.

    Boz, you seem to want to make this about me. Or me vs mickey. It is neither.

    This is about Rob. The guy went to an RV dealership. Posed as a customer and took pictures of himself inside an RV on the lot of the dealership to pass off as his own. End of story! End of Rob's double up bug claim, because this is what he chose as proof of the claim.
    Nope, YOU made it about Mickey when you said his reputation was ruined in whatever “community” you think is out there.

    That said, I again challenge you to see what YOUR reputation is in that community.

    Where should we start?

  7. #87
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    So do you or do you not want to walk back your accusations that Mickeys reputations are ruined in the AP community? B
    I didn't say mickey's reputation was ruined throughout the AP community. I don't speak for the AP community, I was speaking only for myself.

    Boz, you seem to want to make this about me. Or me vs mickey. It is neither.

    This is about Rob. The guy went to an RV dealership. Posed as a customer and took pictures of himself inside an RV on the lot of the dealership to pass off as his own. End of story! End of Rob's double up bug claim, because this is what he chose as proof of the claim.
    And it would have all worked if he had just moved that stupid squeegee in the shower so it was in a different place. It's usually just one little thing like this that catches people in lies. Lol

  8. #88
    Mr The Boz it will be interesting to see what happens with a lot of law firms over the next year. For many law firms the big paydays come from accident cases and with the lockdown there's less travel and fewer accidents. Hence the drop in car insurance premiums. There could be a windfall for the insurance companies because of fewer payouts.

    On the other hand... divorce and family law attorneys might be doing a brisk business soon.

    Bankruptcy firms I suspect will be doing well.

    Law firm employees are a toss up. I know many offices that have closed but they are still paying their secretaries and clerks and paralegals because they know the lockdown won't last much longer. But at the same time the court system here in Vegas has changed dramatically. Rather than submitting docs by hand everything is now done via email and that is resulting in faster decisions but it's also cutting costs and a few jobs for runners.

    Judges seem to be making decisions faster working from home via email.

  9. #89
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr The Boz it will be interesting to see what happens with a lot of law firms over the next year. For many law firms the big paydays come from accident cases and with the lockdown there's less travel and fewer accidents. Hence the drop in car insurance premiums. There could be a windfall for the insurance companies because of fewer payouts.

    On the other hand... divorce and family law attorneys might be doing a brisk business soon.

    Bankruptcy firms I suspect will be doing well.

    Law firm employees are a toss up. I know many offices that have closed but they are still paying their secretaries and clerks and paralegals because they know the lockdown won't last much longer. But at the same time the court system here in Vegas has changed dramatically. Rather than submitting docs by hand everything is now done via email and that is resulting in faster decisions but it's also cutting costs and a few jobs for runners.

    Judges seem to be making decisions faster working from home via email.
    Ugh is all I can say. While I wish every business recovers from this better than ever, we all know there will be winners and losers. I only hope it is on a level playing field, but we all know it won’t be.

    One thing this crisis has shown us is many will find a way to take advantage of any situation. Sadly to the detriment of those taxpayers who will be responsible for it.

  10. #90
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr The Boz it will be interesting to see what happens with a lot of law firms over the next year. For many law firms the big paydays come from accident cases and with the lockdown there's less travel and fewer accidents. Hence the drop in car insurance premiums. There could be a windfall for the insurance companies because of fewer payouts.

    On the other hand... divorce and family law attorneys might be doing a brisk business soon.

    Bankruptcy firms I suspect will be doing well.

    Law firm employees are a toss up. I know many offices that have closed but they are still paying their secretaries and clerks and paralegals because they know the lockdown won't last much longer. But at the same time the court system here in Vegas has changed dramatically. Rather than submitting docs by hand everything is now done via email and that is resulting in faster decisions but it's also cutting costs and a few jobs for runners.

    Judges seem to be making decisions faster working from home via email.
    I have tried to work from home for 2 months. It is difficult to do. While I can service some existing clients, I can't meet with any new ones. I can't open probate estates, access safe deposit boxes, or file Wills as it has all been closed. I can draft documents, but they couldn't be witnessed and notarized. They passed some new laws for virtual notarization of documents, but even if I had the required technology at home, the elderly client neither has the equipment nor would be able to operate it.

    I do now have 7 COVID deaths awaiting estate administration, so there is some inventory for the future when the courts open.

    To make matters worse, most of the race tracks were closed!!!

  11. #91
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr The Boz it will be interesting to see what happens with a lot of law firms over the next year. For many law firms the big paydays come from accident cases and with the lockdown there's less travel and fewer accidents. Hence the drop in car insurance premiums. There could be a windfall for the insurance companies because of fewer payouts.

    On the other hand... divorce and family law attorneys might be doing a brisk business soon.

    Bankruptcy firms I suspect will be doing well.

    Law firm employees are a toss up. I know many offices that have closed but they are still paying their secretaries and clerks and paralegals because they know the lockdown won't last much longer. But at the same time the court system here in Vegas has changed dramatically. Rather than submitting docs by hand everything is now done via email and that is resulting in faster decisions but it's also cutting costs and a few jobs for runners.

    Judges seem to be making decisions faster working from home via email.
    I have tried to work from home for 2 months. It is difficult to do. While I can service some existing clients, I can't meet with any new ones. I can't open probate estates, access safe deposit boxes, or file Wills as it has all been closed. I can draft documents, but they couldn't be witnessed and notarized. They passed some new laws for virtual notarization of documents, but even if I had the required technology at home, the elderly client neither has the equipment nor would be able to operate it.

    I do now have 7 COVID deaths awaiting estate administration, so there is some inventory for the future when the courts open.

    To make matters worse, most of the race tracks were closed!!!
    I understand your pain. Depositions are postponed. We have a case that requires viewing evidence on DVDs and there is no one to make copies and clients can't use Dropbox.

  12. #92
    Rob is trolling everyone hard.

    Anyone with sense knows that there's no Newell, and if he did ever take advantage of the double up bug, he did so on a smaller scale. I'm voting that he never took advantage of it at all.

    No point in writing long essays about this. The situation is clear as day.
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  13. #93
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Rob is trolling everyone hard.

    Anyone with sense knows that there's no Newell, and if he did ever take advantage of the double up bug, he did so on a smaller scale. I'm voting that he never took advantage of it at all.

    No point in writing long essays about this. The situation is clear as day.
    Yeah, I think everybody agrees it’s pretty much settled, but now we’re trying to figure out if Rob is exaggerating on the pop up pull-behind Winnebago trailer he claims he owns. MaxPen has brought this up and I’d like to get to the bottom of it, if for no other reason than to learn more about Winnibagos. I’m now an expert on Newell’s so I might as well become an expert on pop up pull-behind Winnebagos.

    As far as Rob possibly taking advantage of the double up bug on a smaller scale, his claim that he won only $2.8 million over 5 yeass is one or many reasons I didn’t believe him from the beginning. That is not a lot of money for something like this. I mean Nester said it was like “printing money”.

    If someone was smart, they could have easily won about $3 million a year and stayed under the casino’s radar with this play. Why would someone only want to win about $500,000/year? That’s chump change for a play this easy. And there would be no reason to ever hit big jackpots since you could determine how much you won.

    And as I’ve said many times, a person who really exploited this play and won big money would take this secret to their grave, since they wouldn’t want the IRS coming after them. There is no way someone would brag about this on an open forum.

    Now if someone didn’t do it, then they have nothing to worry about from the IRS, and they can make up as many stories as they want about all the money they won off it.

    So the very fact Rob claims he did it is an indication that he didn’t do it. Again, I get this doesn’t prove anything.
    Last edited by Bob21; 05-27-2020 at 02:59 AM.

  14. #94
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Rob is trolling everyone hard.

    Anyone with sense knows that there's no Newell, and if he did ever take advantage of the double up bug, he did so on a smaller scale. I'm voting that he never took advantage of it at all.

    No point in writing long essays about this. The situation is clear as day.
    If it's true that Rob is not telling us the truth, I wouldn't call it trolling, it's outright being deceptive and lying, and in this case it goes well beyond just trolling. And I'll tell you what, it shouldn't be celebrated, encouraged, or tolerated, especially since he has now caused some serious fights(at least as far as internet fights go) among a few members here that normally wouldn't. From Alan's s perspective, at least what he would have us believe, Rob's multi-year "trolling" has actually caused him some possible damage.

    one thing if someone's just making up a bunch of bulshit here and there, but as I said, this entire episode goes far beyond that.

  15. #95
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Rob is trolling everyone hard.

    Anyone with sense knows that there's no Newell, and if he did ever take advantage of the double up bug, he did so on a smaller scale. I'm voting that he never took advantage of it at all.

    No point in writing long essays about this. The situation is clear as day.
    If it's true that Rob is not telling us the truth, I wouldn't call it trolling, it's outright being deceptive and lying, and in this case it goes well beyond just trolling. And I'll tell you what, it shouldn't be celebrated, encouraged, or tolerated, especially since he has now caused some serious fights(at least as far as internet fights go) among a few members here that normally wouldn't. From Alan's s perspective, at least what he would have us believe, Rob's multi-year "trolling" has actually caused him some possible damage.

    one thing if someone's just making up a bunch of bulshit here and there, but as I said, this entire episode goes far beyond that.
    What a fucking drama queen...you, KewlJ and Alan should get a room at Motel 6 and plot your strategy...all 3 of you need to get a fucking life

  16. #96
    Unfortunately Mr Keystone, Mr Alan has a real life as does Mr Dietz. Both were insulted and defamed by Singer. Mr Alan's reputation was damaged. He was mentioned by name and labeled an addict and a woman beater. How would you like that said about you if your true name was used online and in your business and personal life? And Mr Dietz suffered similarly. Even worse Singer attacked Mr Alan's children who didn't even participate in these discussions. And again they are real people with real lives and jobs and reputations.

    Singer has caused irreparable harm. And frankly it should never have been allowed to go as far as it did.

    You are "keystone." Nothing said here can harm you because you're anonymous.

  17. #97
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Unfortunately Mr Keystone, Mr Alan has a real life as does Mr Dietz. Both were insulted and defamed by Singer. Mr Alan's reputation was damaged. He was mentioned by name and labeled an addict and a woman beater. How would you like that said about you if your true name was used online and in your business and personal life? And Mr Dietz suffered similarly. Even worse Singer attacked Mr Alan's children who didn't even participate in these discussions. And again they are real people with real lives and jobs and reputations.

    Singer has caused irreparable harm. And frankly it should never have been allowed to go as far as it did.

    You are "keystone." Nothing said here can harm you because you're anonymous.
    I never dug Rob bringing up Redietz and Arci’s spouses that passed. Thought that went way over the line of humor....as far as damaging reputations, what audience does he have and who really pays attention or gives him the time of day to damage anyone’s reputation?....you are letting this business about his DU claim and the RV get too big a hold of you...don’t be an obsessive nit wit like KewlJ
    Last edited by Keystone; 05-27-2020 at 05:13 AM.

  18. #98
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Unfortunately Mr Keystone, Mr Alan has a real life as does Mr Dietz. Both were insulted and defamed by Singer. Mr Alan's reputation was damaged. He was mentioned by name and labeled an addict and a woman beater. How would you like that said about you if your true name was used online and in your business and personal life? And Mr Dietz suffered similarly. Even worse Singer attacked Mr Alan's children who didn't even participate in these discussions. And again they are real people with real lives and jobs and reputations.

    Singer has caused irreparable harm. And frankly it should never have been allowed to go as far as it did.

    You are "keystone." Nothing said here can harm you because you're anonymous.
    I never dug Rob bringing up Redietz and ArciÂ’s spouses that passed. Thought that went way over the line of humor....as far as damaging reputations, what audience does he have and who really pays attention or gives him the time of day to damage anyoneÂ’s reputation?....you are letting this business about his DU claim and the RV get too big a hold of you...donÂ’t be an obsessive not wit like KewlJ
    In the legal biz there's a saying... you can't unring a bell.

    It's been posted on this website numerous times that Mr Arci abused his wife, and Mr Dietz had lied about his business practices, and Mr Alan was a gambling addict and a woman beater. And those comments were left to be archived forever on the internet and to appear in searches forever on the Internet.

    I presume Mr Arci's true name is not Arcimedes, but Mr Dietz and Mr Alan will forever have these libelous statements present online.

  19. #99
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Unfortunately Mr Keystone, Mr Alan has a real life as does Mr Dietz. Both were insulted and defamed by Singer. Mr Alan's reputation was damaged. He was mentioned by name and labeled an addict and a woman beater. How would you like that said about you if your true name was used online and in your business and personal life? And Mr Dietz suffered similarly. Even worse Singer attacked Mr Alan's children who didn't even participate in these discussions. And again they are real people with real lives and jobs and reputations.

    Singer has caused irreparable harm. And frankly it should never have been allowed to go as far as it did.

    You are "keystone." Nothing said here can harm you because you're anonymous.
    I never dug Rob bringing up Redietz and ArciÂ’s spouses that passed. Thought that went way over the line of humor....as far as damaging reputations, what audience does he have and who really pays attention or gives him the time of day to damage anyoneÂ’s reputation?....you are letting this business about his DU claim and the RV get too big a hold of you...donÂ’t be an obsessive not wit like KewlJ
    In the legal biz there's a saying... you can't unring a bell.

    It's been posted on this website numerous times that Mr Arci abused his wife, and Mr Dietz had lied about his business practices, and Mr Alan was a gambling addict and a woman beater. And those comments were left to be archived forever on the internet and to appear in searches forever on the Internet.

    I presume Mr Arci's true name is not Arcimedes, but Mr Dietz and Mr Alan will forever have these libelous statements present online.
    You gotta do what you gotta do, but he’s residing in the brains of at least 3 people here...right where he wants to be

  20. #100
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Mr The Boz it will be interesting to see what happens with a lot of law firms over the next year. For many law firms the big paydays come from accident cases and with the lockdown there's less travel and fewer accidents. Hence the drop in car insurance premiums. There could be a windfall for the insurance companies because of fewer payouts.

    On the other hand... divorce and family law attorneys might be doing a brisk business soon.

    Bankruptcy firms I suspect will be doing well.

    Law firm employees are a toss up. I know many offices that have closed but they are still paying their secretaries and clerks and paralegals because they know the lockdown won't last much longer. But at the same time the court system here in Vegas has changed dramatically. Rather than submitting docs by hand everything is now done via email and that is resulting in faster decisions but it's also cutting costs and a few jobs for runners.

    Judges seem to be making decisions faster working from home via email.
    Oh Boo Fucking Hoo!
    The Lawyers are going out of business!
    Actually this is great news to me... thanks for the update!

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