Originally Posted by
unowme
Originally Posted by
Bob21
The way you find bugs is the way Kane found it, by accident. And they are best found when you’re really drunk randlomly pushing buttons.
Well that's not right. There are hundreds of thousands of people whose only job is to test software and look for bugs. Every major software product goes through untold hours of human testing....looking for bugs. Criminals are constantly looking for bugs in Windows and networking devices to exploit design flaws.
I have owned a small software company for 3 decades and know from experience that even though the world's largest software companies invest huge amounts in testing, they still release products with crazy bugs. Every time I sit down at any machine I look for flaws. Not to cheat it, but that's just part of my thought process. I can guarantee there's buggy software out there...some minor problems others major.
I'm going to agree with UNowMe on this one. Even though I have never just pressed random variations of buttons or did alternating series' of buttons while putting bills in, switching games, etc. etc., the entire concept of finding new machines to vulture (meaning variable state machines) is first watching the machine and seeing if it is one. Obviously, for me personally, I'm going to watch other people take some spins for free rather than pay to take any spins myself since 95% of machines are not going to be variable state in any beatable way. After that, if I have enough of a theory about it, then I'll read the rules and then I might test my theory. If not, then maybe watch some more, ask if anyone knows anything, see if there are any Youtube videos of it where I can watch it more slowly, etc.
I'm not going to openly discuss one of the best machines I ever found in public, just in case there's still one or two of them hiding somewhere, but it's one that I have talked to other vultures about and they had either never seen it or were not aware of it being an advantage. It wasn't exactly variable state, but it had certain characteristics that enabled you to basically just sit down and print money. Not $10,000/hour or anything silly like that, but something like $30/hour plus whatever you're going to get from slot points and comps...only thing was it required other people to also be playing.
I think it lasted about two weeks or a month after I noticed it, don't know how long it was there before I noticed it, not very.
Anyway, my point is if you're a hustler/vulture type, you do spend a good bit of time eyeballing machines, reading rules screens if something on the main screen looks interesting, things like that...especially if you're waiting for someone to get off a different machine because you have reason to think there's some decent stuff on there. What else are you going to do while you wait? Play roulette?
FTR: I'm not stating an opinion on the Newell thing and also don't care at all. I do understand that Singer has essentially admitted that his Video Poker, 'Strategy,' or whatever you want to call it, was bullshit...so that satisfies me by itself.