Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
His story is that he failed at our side of the table and then went to the evil, dark side.
I wish I had Mickey's eloquence, but there is so much missing here logically, I can't begin to unravel it. But, let's give it a try.

First of all, I did not FAIL at *your side.* I was a winning red-chip player, primarily card counting and hole-carding 3CP. I think my best year was about +$6000. So, yeah, definitely not an aspiring professional.

Back in 2002 I got a call from a hole-card team, I think it was 1 AM, and they were asking me to fly to Reno, and I said no because I was giving a mid-term the next day. The point is that I had a job I liked, being a professor at one of the top universities in the world, that paid well, gave me health insurance and retirement, and was something I enjoyed doing. So no, I didn't *fail* -- I chose a different job. One that benefits society. One that holds a position of prestige. One that paid well and had substantial benefits. Not everyone can do what I can do -- get a Ph.D. in mathematics and get tenured at a research University -- a lifetime job with very few demands. I can only imagine that if you had my drive and educational opportunities you might have made a better choice for yourself.

In 2003, Stanford Wong told me quite directly, Eliot, you have proven to yourself that you can beat these games. I can tell there is nothing left in this for you. Many years ago, Snyder wrote an essay about loving blackjack and gambling, and that without that love, you could never be a professional. I didn't love it from day one, and that was clear to anyone who knew me. I did't enjoy the smoke, crowds, long days, heat & exhaustion. There is nothing about being a full-time professional AP that was ever of interest to me. I did't enjoy producing nothing of value. I did't enjoy no medical insurance or retirement. I did't enjoy the vast sociopathic brotherhood who will turn on each other in an instant. The drugs. The physical danger. For what? To play a game?

I continued on as a professor until 2009, while building up my clientele in the casino industry. By 2009, I was making more working for the industry than as a professor, which allowed me to quit that job and become a full time consultant. My work over the years was primarily game design, slot machine design (and yes, Mickey, we mathematicians knew that the specifications they gave us permitted advantage play, but they didn't listen so we designed them anyway, e.g. the game that was 160%, the class 2 games were ripe), auditing of online casinos, and market research. And yes, all that changed in 2011 after I published that article on Mike's site about the Dragon 7 bet.

After my website cardcounter.com got hacked by LVHCM in 2001, I got a phone call from a top AP who told me quite simply that I should shut down my site because, there are sociopaths and miscreants everywhere in the AP community. If you haven't read Abram's Alexander's take down of the AP community in their "Advanced Tactics in Casino Advantage Play" maybe you should review that. The way teams turn on each other. The gang like mentality that AP's have towards each other. I don't know what world you are living in to think that there should be anything interesting about such a lifestyle to everyone. That everyone secretly wants to be an AP. That is not true. It is just one of many false things you believe about yourself and others.

And then there is your use of the words "evil, dark side." Those are as wrong as you can get. Casinos everywhere offer jobs, get people out of poverty, support schools, donate to good causes. Yes, gambling is a social issue. But so is tobacco and alcohol, but you don't go around saying everyone who works at a liquor store is on the "evil, dark side." They are just doing a job. You can hate anyone you want, you can think anyone you want to is "evil." It's a free country, and that freedom is supported by tax payers like me. But, I have better things to do than live my life in your world of sociopathic darkness and lies.

I think you haven't read my essay on the word "evil" lately. I invite you to do so.

https://www.888casino.com/blog/apheat/why-they-play

So, you can have your simplistic black/white view of me, KewlJ, but it's wrong.

I am not going to address your other points, though you are equally wrong on each of them. You seem to want to gain points with some sort of false family you think you have by spreading these rumours and lies. Your lying, threats and fabrications follow you everywhere in your life. How much you hate ... be careful, it will shorten your life.
Very elegantly said Eliot! I’ve made most the same points you’ve made over on Blackjack the Forum and here, and usually get attacked. APs hate it when people don’t see the casinos as being evil, or the “dark side”.

You’re brave playing ball over here because this site is more like Mad Max and the Road Warriors. About anything goes, but I still love it here since it’s real, and I don’t get censored. Over at BJTF, I got censored a couple times when I said something positive about casinos. I was never banned though. But I don’t like being censored so I came over here.

This site also has some good intelligent conservatives, which are hard to find these days. I also have a warped sense of humor so I fit in over here.

I too have a PhD and studied at a renowned Univeristy under a Nobel Laureate in one of the science fields. Since there are not too many Nobel prize winners in United States, I’d rather not say the University or his name, but he has been honored by the US Senate.

Just think I worked with a Nobel laureate for 5 years and we had some disagreements, but never once did I get called stupid. I’ve noticed in the scientific community there is a little more respect for people’s opinions than in the AP world. Don has called me stupid a couple times, along with about everybody else at BJTF. To Norm’s credit, he never called me stupid.

For the record I’m Dbs6582 over at BJF. I found out after I had two handles on two different sites this violates one of the AP’s code of conduct rules. Kj is still giving me a hard time about it, when he doesn’t have me on ignore. Many APs just put me on ignore, because they don’t like hearing opinions that don’t line up with theirs. It makes life interesting.