Originally Posted by
mickeycrimm
I've had a problem with trigger happy cops for decades. To many of them have gone scott free by prosecutor's failing to charge. I have a problem with police unions protecting bad cops. I don't think a cop has to make a kill shot when a suspect with a knife is not within striking distance. I'm for reforms in these areas but not for defunding police departments.
A white cop killing an unarmed black man is a rare event. Happened only 9 times last year. But about 7000 blacks were killed by other blacks last year. Where is the outrage, the protests? Do you understand the magnitude of difference in cops killing blacks vs. blacks killing blacks? It seems "Black Lives Matter," when one is killed by a cop, but "Black Lives Don't Matter" when blacks kill blacks. This is the stinging hypocrisy of the left.
The hard left don't care how many blacks kill blacks. They only care to scare blacks into voting democrat.
Good post Mickey, and Bosox you made an excellent post too! The only place I don't agree with Mickey is with his statement that cops are too "trigger happy". This is a huge over generalization. If that's true why are blacks killing cops at 18 times the rate as cops killing blacks. You could make a strong case that cops are being killed at a high rate because they are too resistant to shoot and use force; that cop's problem is they aren't "trigger happy" enough.
The point is the media sensationalizes the isolated cases that happen where a cop was too "trigger happy", or "knee happy" in George Floyd's case.
I also think people are viewing the short video of Derek Chauvin's knee on George without putting it into context of what happened. Listening to the narrative of the press and many people on this site, you'd think Derek woke up that morning wanting to spend the rest of his life in jail. This is the only way his actions make sense, without putting them in context. Regardless if you believe Derek is a racist or not, I don't believe Derek wanted to commit suicide that day.
To recap what happened: George Floyd resisted arrest for 10 minutes. It's hard to find video of this, but I found some. Then after 10 minutes, it took 4 cops to subdue him. They did this by sitting on him. Even after the cops were sitting on him, George was still resisting. What everybody sees in the video is less than one minute of probably the last minutes of George's life. They are then told by the liberal media that this went on for close to 9 mins, but we aren't shown the previous 7 minutes so it's anybody's guess what really happened.
This is the same thing that happened with the Rodney King incident. At first the whole incident looked awful, since we only saw the video of the end of Rodney's encounter with the cops. We didn't see the video at the beginning, when Rodney was resisting arrest when he got out of his car, and when he was trying to fight multiple cops. Obviously, it makes no sense Rodney would do this, but he probably wasn't thinking right being high on drugs.
So the question the jury had to answer is which baton swing was over the top in trying to subdue a violent criminal that was high as a kite on drugs resisting arrest. This isn't an easy question to answer. That's why these cops were acquitted. I would have acquitted them too based on the evidence at that trial.
In a case like Rodney King, who are you going to side with? A criminal high on drugs attacking cops, or the cops trying to subdue him? MWP and accountinquestion don't need to answer, because I know they will always side with the bad guy.
This is the same situation with George Floyd. He was high as a kite on drugs and tried to take on an entire police force, and it didn't end well. Did the cops take it too far. Sure.
It'll be interesting to see how Derek's trial goes, because I expect his lawyer will use the same defense used for the cops in the Rodney King trial. At what point did Derek Chauvin take it too far? Does anybody really think Derek set out to kill a black man that morning? Why didn't George act like a rational human being when he was arrested, and get into the cop car, rather than resisting arrest. Why did so many cops have to sit on George to restrain him? There are still a lot of unanswered questions.
I'm not defending any of what I saw on the video, but for a country where we're supposed to believe in someone being "presumed innocent until proven guilty", I find it interesting how all the liberals in the media and on this site have already convicted Derek Chauvin without a trial. Or that's right, the idea of "presumed innocent until proven guilty" only applies to blacks who are high on drugs committing crimes and resisting arrest.