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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I think there's more solo successful Blackjack counters today than there ever was.
    You do?? I see maybe half dozen a year. 3 that are local and 3-4 that maybe I see once or twice a year, so I suspect they are on trips.

    Are we talking about the same things here? I am talking professional players playing black or above that make a living solely from blackjack card counting. I am not talking about low limit counters or weekend warriors, or players playing under bankrolled or too scared to through the money out. Again, I am talking about professional blackjack players, making a living only through card counting. You think there are more than there ever was? Well, they sure anit playing Vegas.
    Yeah, I'm not talking about the Weekend Warriors and the low chippers. I'm talking about professional players who make a living playing Blackjack.

    I know very few people that only stick to Las Vegas when counting cards.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    My point is simply that you know little or nothing about the things I have lived.

    On the other hand, I know very little about machine play.

    Stick to your slots. If I come in and try to school you on how I think that machine world works, then you may start calling me Axel.
    So basically you know nothing other than how to lose at baccarat and possibly blackjack. Other than a few dumbfucks nobody believes you beat Baccarat.

    I know exactly how those things work, I have played both of those games admittedly very little Baccarat. I'm a lifetime winner on both games over many years. Of course, I only Play those games when I have an advantage.

    Of course, I know little or nothing about the things you have lived(and that's the point, no one does on the forums since you have made a point to make sure not to meet anyone, even after claiming you wanted to, and you had plenty of opportunity). There's people around the Gaming Community that have known me and know what I do since the 90s. And I'm not just talking about some Joe blow off the street nobody knows. I even have a copy of a griffin book sitting right here on my shelf with my name in it and approximately how much money I took out of the casino(actually, I took the page out in case someone I don't know very well wants to look at it, but you get the point).

    You on the other hand have a few snapshots of some floated credit line that you use to purchase chips and take pictures of them for the purpose of pretending you won while playing Baccarat.


    Some of us don't need to float company credit lines when we can simply put cash on deposit and take out markers, get comps, and all the other b*******.

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Learn to read drunk old man.
    Jackie Gaughan was chasing out machine pros in the 80's, dimwit.

    KJocchio, its about time you talked about self employment tax. Or are you paying it? I don't think so. If we are to believe your income level, about 80K per year, then you would be paying 10 or 12K a year in self employment tax. But yet you refer to people on SS as welfare people. If you are making that big of an investment do you plan on passing it by when you get older because you consider it to be a government handout. And if so then it must really chap your ass to be paying so much. That is, if you are really paying it. I don't think you are.

    PS: I'm in my 40th month without a drink. How about you?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #44
    As usual you go on for pages and pages about why you think something might not be true, offering not a shred of evidence to support your thoughts, and just making it even more clear that you've never done much other than low end play.

    But why should I point out what a low end has-been you are? You already make that point yourself when you make a big deal about bragging about lying in bed all day and buying crap at garage sales to make a hundred bucks.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I've been sitting in bed
    I repaired a laptops plug-in Jack I picked up for $4o that's now worth about $180.
    Again, not saying there is anything wrong with being low end. That's the salt of the earth. But, stick to your lane and don't comment on what you don't know!

    Go back to...whatever it is you do. The market opens in thirty minutes I will neither be lying in bed all day like you, nor trying to spend the whole day making a hundred bucks like you.

    When you have something other than bitter rant to post, let me know!
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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  5. #45
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Now let's get into your little list Boz. You made that list, for one reason, so you could leave me off it. That is fine you can do that. You don't like me and that is fine too. But I don't believe for a minute that you don't KNOW that I know what I am talking about. If you don't then you are not as smart as I always gave you credit for.

    Either way, it is fine. Doesn't effect my life or income.
    Yet you have to be such a braggart that you go on WoV and post about the number of casinos on your rotation and how the playing conditions are actually better for you now.

    How in any way, shape or form does that help you? With less players out there currently due to the conditions you are only making yourself possibly more under the radar. It proves your need for attention. They is no possible longevity or AP reason to post that.

    And my point sticks that I have no proof what you actually do. Your posting current conditions makes me confused as hell.

    And you still haven’t denied paying the Wizard off.
    I did not pay Wizard one cent. We simply spoke like adults and came to an arrangement, allowing us to move forward. Now you will just post that you don't believe that, so what is the point?

    I posted general information, didn't list a single casino in my report. I almost never mention a casino by name. Occasionally El Cortez. I have my reasons for that and KNOW mentioning it can't really hurt me.

    I appreciate you denying it. That’s all I asked for all along. The issue is now with him and his credibility, but that was always the case with the Wizard. This is just another example of him and his word being worthless.

    And I still think what you post is stupid for your “career”. But your ego won’t allow you to stop in some demented way trying for respect or acceptance.

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    I appreciate you denying it. That’s all I asked for all along. The issue is now with him and his credibility, but that was always the case with the Wizard. This is just another example of him and his word being worthless.

    And I still think what you post is stupid for your “career”. But your ego won’t allow you to stop in some demented way trying for respect or acceptance.
    I'm going to disagree with the part of his word being worthless. Wizard said something years ago and has since changed his mind in light of new information/developments, is what it sounds like to me. The world would be an even worse place if every person were so inflexible they had to go with their first thoughts about every single thing out of some misguided notion of maintaining integrity.

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    I appreciate you denying it. That’s all I asked for all along. The issue is now with him and his credibility, but that was always the case with the Wizard. This is just another example of him and his word being worthless.

    And I still think what you post is stupid for your “career”. But your ego won’t allow you to stop in some demented way trying for respect or acceptance.
    I'm going to disagree with the part of his word being worthless. Wizard said something years ago and has since changed his mind in light of new information/developments, is what it sounds like to me. The world would be an even worse place if every person were so inflexible they had to go with their first thoughts about every single thing out of some misguided notion of maintaining integrity.
    Nope, I disagree. He knew EXACTLY what was going on with Norm and KJ when all this originally happened. There was no new information or developments. The time to investigate and make the decision was then. He then made it worse by saying KJ was dead to him afterwards.

    Now it just reeks of an attempt to increase traffic to the site. If he really wanted to do the right thing he would reach out to Mickey and invite him back. But every time that was brought up, including during Mick’s health scare he shot it down immediately.

    Of course I believe Mickey would tell him to go Fuck himself. Compared to KJ begging for years.

  8. #48
    The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.

    As has been mentioned, WoV is not the moneymaker of the sites. Again, I don't know whether or not it's independently profitable (that info has nothing to do with me), but that said...I don't think they hold Wizard accountable for actual traffic to that site. Even if they did, then they made a business decision followed by Wizard making a business decision---worst case scenario. It'll hardly be the first time someone has made a revenue-focused decision in business and this one should be harmless. Honestly, if so many people didn't despise Wizard completely, then nobody would have to pretend to actually care all that much.

    And, if we assume your last couple of sentences are correct, wouldn't the (assumed) fact that Mickey would tell him to fuck himself play into the decision of whether or not to ask him?

  9. #49
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.

    As has been mentioned, WoV is not the moneymaker of the sites. Again, I don't know whether or not it's independently profitable (that info has nothing to do with me), but that said...I don't think they hold Wizard accountable for actual traffic to that site. Even if they did, then they made a business decision followed by Wizard making a business decision---worst case scenario. It'll hardly be the first time someone has made a revenue-focused decision in business and this one should be harmless. Honestly, if so many people didn't despise Wizard completely, then nobody would have to pretend to actually care all that much.

    And, if we assume your last couple of sentences are correct, wouldn't the (assumed) fact that Mickey would tell him to fuck himself play into the decision of whether or not to ask him?
    I don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.

    Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.

    As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.

    Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.

  10. #50
    I would never play a continuous shuffle machine.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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  11. #51
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.

    As has been mentioned, WoV is not the moneymaker of the sites. Again, I don't know whether or not it's independently profitable (that info has nothing to do with me), but that said...I don't think they hold Wizard accountable for actual traffic to that site. Even if they did, then they made a business decision followed by Wizard making a business decision---worst case scenario. It'll hardly be the first time someone has made a revenue-focused decision in business and this one should be harmless. Honestly, if so many people didn't despise Wizard completely, then nobody would have to pretend to actually care all that much.

    And, if we assume your last couple of sentences are correct, wouldn't the (assumed) fact that Mickey would tell him to fuck himself play into the decision of whether or not to ask him?
    I don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.

    Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.

    As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.

    Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.
    I tend to agree with your feeling and also don't speak for Mickey. I wouldn't dare. He might be seventy and recently had a heart attack, but he's the sort of dude that would find a way to kick my ass if I crossed him. Totally old school. Love it.

    I mostly agree with your second sentence, though I do think there are a lot of lurkers and not even all of which who sign in, create an account (on WoV) and what have you. I also have no idea what the revenue-sharing arrangements are, but I should imagine that they only really need a small percentage of traffic to use the gambling sites. I don't see how it would be sustainable otherwise. There are also other ways to make money on traffic info, cookies, targeted advertising, metadata collection, etc. etc. I don't know that they do those things, just that those things exist.

    I'd be lying not to admit that some of whatever money is collected finds its way to me via getting paid to write for the family of sites. The only illegal activity, at least the only activity any level of Government would actually care about, has to do with the banks processing the stuff. Even then, the banks would have to know that's what they are processing for it to even be illegal. That's not to say there aren't state laws; there are and I have said as much in my writings...just that nobody really cares about individual people playing at online casinos. In some states, however, it's not even illegal to participate in unlawful gambling as long as you're doing it in the capacity of a player.

    You take a risk on getting paid even with PA casinos, exception only to your initial deposit...which they can essentially free roll because if you lose, you just lose. I wrote a relatively recent article about the Terms & Conditions associated with one of them. The only real protection with that one is that, if you won money, they'd at least have to eventually give your initial deposit back...whatever else happens.

  12. #52
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.

    As has been mentioned, WoV is not the moneymaker of the sites. Again, I don't know whether or not it's independently profitable (that info has nothing to do with me), but that said...I don't think they hold Wizard accountable for actual traffic to that site. Even if they did, then they made a business decision followed by Wizard making a business decision---worst case scenario. It'll hardly be the first time someone has made a revenue-focused decision in business and this one should be harmless. Honestly, if so many people didn't despise Wizard completely, then nobody would have to pretend to actually care all that much.

    And, if we assume your last couple of sentences are correct, wouldn't the (assumed) fact that Mickey would tell him to fuck himself play into the decision of whether or not to ask him?
    I don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.

    Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.

    As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.

    Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.
    Hold on now, let me clarify what I was trying to say. They have a business model that makes a s*** ton of money, I can't fault them for that. People are going to play online casinos with or without them, it's been happening since the late 90s. There's a ton of Rogue affiliate sites out there who don't give a flying f*** who gets ripped off or who doesn't, they'll advertise and bolster complete rip-off joints and offer nothing but a fake review.

    At least latest Casino bonuses, from what I've seen... they don't censor the reviews and what people have to say about the casinos(I guess I might censor profanity). For instance, there might be a casino that has 400 reviews and it's getting a green 4.5 out of 5 stars. On the other hand we have a casino getting red 1.1 five stars with only 28 reviews. I'm going to venture to guess it only has 28 reviews because people avoid that place like the plague simply because of the reviews. There are also all other kinds of resources on that site that can help guide you to find a worth while casino to play at, and tell you which ones to avoid. Of course they're always going to be casinos that start off good and end up bad and they're going to be casinos that start off bad and end up good.

    I'm not fooled into thinking, nor am I claiming they are a noble and great do-gooders looking to reform and police the gaming industry for the players benefit. They're in business to make money in an industry that has a multitude of problems. I have no doubt if a few people get screwed by one of their biggest money makers that they're going to suddenly put them on a blacklist until the problem gets solved. Let's just put it this way, it's better than nothing.

    Hell, you're not going to find that in regulated license to casinos. Does everyone know what happens if a casino in Nevada decides not to pay someone after you've won your case with gaming? If you ever read one one of Gaming's decision letters in your favor, it basically says they are not debt collectors and cannot force the casino to actually pay you your money. I guess they can be fined, but I haven't heard of them getting fined for not paying someone after decision. I think it's very rare that the casino doesn't pay when gaming rules against them.

    I'm all for online regulated casinos, however, I'm not for making unregulated online casinos illegal here in the United States. You'll notice that some of these New Jersey casinos are now basically being ran and operated bye all the casinos that were unregulated at one time. Go look at their terms and conditions, basically they are the same thing you would find at an unregulated site. If we take away all the options and give the power and business to all to the land-based casinos, eventually the licensed online casinos will all tighten up and become practically unplayable as far as Advantage Play goes(it's already starting to happen).

    As far as unregulated offshore casinos go, I'm all for some type of system/ authority/ regulation that allows players to recoup their money when they get f***** and even jail time for owners and operators who f*** those people.


    Much of my comments are coming from an advantage players perspective, because I've made a lot of money at online casinos and there's a lot of money left to be made playing online casinos. It would obviously be better for a majority of the population if all online casinos we're strictly licensed and regulated. But I also think it would be better for most of the population if 80% of the casinos were gone.

  13. #53
    It's not so much that I would tell the Wiz to fuck off if invited back to WoV. I don't hate the Wizard but I would never agree to live up to the rules. Plus I'm not really up to groveling to get back on a forum.

    The Wizard is a public person. No matter how good of a public person you are you are going to make enemies. With most normal people I would say it's about half like you and half don't. It comes with the territory. People are just that way. If nothing else some people will hate you just because you are to damn good. Even Mother Theresa had her detractors.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It's not so much that I would tell the Wiz to fuck off if invited back to WoV. I don't hate the Wizard but I would never agree to live up to the rules. Plus I'm not really up to groveling to get back on a forum.

    The Wizard is a public person. No matter how good of a public person you are you are going to make enemies. With most normal people I would say it's about half like you and half don't. It comes with the territory. People are just that way. If nothing else some people will hate you just because you are to damn good. Even Mother Theresa had her detractors.
    Theoretically, if he just offered you back and all he wanted was a straight yes/no answer, what would the answer be?

    ADDED: Yes, I'm obviously asking because I'd like to have you back there if it was possible.

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.
    It was mentioned for years that Norm never posted after the banning.
    It was known and Mike knew that Norm was never going to post again, that he was only posting to make sure of the banning.
    Mike even admitted that he only banned KJ as a personal favor to Qfit.
    It didn't take Mike over 3 years to figure the whole thing out.
    Stop making up bullshit... we all know the story.
    queerJ won't let us forget.
    Of course now I'm sure he will play nice and never bash Mike again like he did for the last 3 to 4 years.

    Here is a post from kewlJ himself bashing the Wizard lol...
    This was on Feb 25, 2020!!

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...Thread/page190

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Come on Boz, you guys are just figuring this out now? I have been telling you for 4 years.

    Michael Shackleford is no friend to gamblers or the gambling community. He proved that years ago with his association with Venetian and he proves it everyday at his forum. Interested in helping players be better informed gamblers. Give me a break! Michael Shackleford is interested in propping up his own ego. That's all WoV was ever about. He is a VERY insecure and small man. (That's what she said. - Michael Scott reference)
    Last edited by monet; 06-13-2020 at 10:16 AM.

  16. #56
    Monet, you need to stop holding on to every word everyone says. People say shit on forums.

    Hell I know of one guy claiming to own a million and a half dollar Newell RV, when he really owned a $17 grand Winnebago pull behind camper.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #57
    Poll results are Tasha vs everybody.
    Mickey Crimm is a poser pro. He rides around in a moto-wheelchair telling slot hustlers he's Mickey Crimm, and some are in awe of a "forum legend" and show him the plays.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.
    It was mentioned for years that Norm never posted after the banning.
    It was known and Mike knew that Norm was never going to post again, that he was only posting to make sure of the banning.
    Mike even admitted that he only banned KJ as a personal favor to Qfit.
    It didn't take Mike over 3 years to figure the whole thing out.
    Stop making up bullshit... we all know the story.
    queerJ won't let us forget.
    Of course now I'm sure he will play nice and never bash Mike again like he did for the last 3 to 4 years.

    Here is a post from kewlJ himself bashing the Wizard lol...
    This was on Feb 25, 2020!!

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...Thread/page190

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Come on Boz, you guys are just figuring this out now? I have been telling you for 4 years.

    Michael Shackleford is no friend to gamblers or the gambling community. He proved that years ago with his association with Venetian and he proves it everyday at his forum. Interested in helping players be better informed gamblers. Give me a break! Michael Shackleford is interested in propping up his own ego. That's all WoV was ever about. He is a VERY insecure and small man. (That's what she said. - Michael Scott reference)
    I'm not making anything up, just giving my perspective. He certainly didn't know that QFIT would not be a regular participant the day after he banned KewlJ, or anything. If you're going to ask if I think KewlJ should have been let back sooner, I'd say probably, but that's not my decision to make. I also don't know what private discussions did or didn't take place. Maybe QFIT said he was going to be more active over there, I don't know. It did seem like he'd pop up from time to time, post in small spurts, then disappear again.

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Poll results are Tasha vs everybody.
    It's not possible for me to answer the question because I'd have to stipulate that KewlJ is trolling here in the first place. If he is, then he's not doing any worse trolling than some 25-50% of the other people here.

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    It's not possible for me to answer the question because I'd have to stipulate that KewlJ is trolling here in the first place. If he is, then he's not doing any worse trolling than some 25-50% of the other people here.
    You have solid points.
    I don't think anyone can dispute that kewlJ went from saying this...

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Come on Boz, you guys are just figuring this out now? I have been telling you for 4 years.

    Michael Shackleford is no friend to gamblers or the gambling community. He proved that years ago with his association with Venetian and he proves it everyday at his forum. Interested in helping players be better informed gamblers. Give me a break! Michael Shackleford is interested in propping up his own ego. That's all WoV was ever about. He is a VERY insecure and small man. (That's what she said. - Michael Scott reference)
    and 3 months later he is allowed back at DT and WoV.
    I would think saying that Mike is no friend to gamblers or the gambling community is far worse than anything Mike banned kewlJ for years ago.
    Forgive and Forget I suppose but I would think trust would be an issue.
    How do you trust or respect a member who just said that shit about you 3 months ago lol??
    He even doubled down saying that he proves he is no friend everyday on his own forum and that he is only propping up his own EGO lol.
    Not only did Mike allow him back but he was welcomed back with open arms by many members after many derogatory posts about WoV's Hero.
    I guess Mike can always ban him again which would be fun for him I suppose.
    Boz is probably right that something smells wrong.
    Last edited by monet; 06-13-2020 at 01:09 PM.

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