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  1. #1
    Pretty amazing that they didn't do this in the first place.

    Idiotic decision initially to allow people to walk in with no masks.

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  2. #2
    Why let them in at all?
    A stoopid mask, that isn't N95, isn't going to save you.
    I doubt people can wear an N95 Mask for long periods in a Casino.
    People still gotta touch dice, cards and chips.
    People still drinking out of glasses being handed to them by cocktail girls.
    Just keep the world shut down forever so everyone will stop crying about wearing a mask.

  3. #3
    CZR's mask wearing is now required at all Vegas as well as all other of their properties. At our property Horseshoe Bossier City La my host told me yesterday they are now smoke free as well. Not sure about smoking at other CZR properties.

  4. #4
    If Las Vegas Strip casinos gave free masks with their logos, I'd drive there to collect one from each property. Without spending more than 10 minutes at each casino, one can collect from the whole Strip and drive back home the same day. Those masks might be worth something 20 years from now. If they gave away the cheap generic masks, forget about it!
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  5. #5
    MGM has just joined the must have mask rule. Good luck all those fighting not to wear masks. You gonna lose this fight.

    Just wear the damn masks and save your energy not to mention saving some lives

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mg...day-2020-06-25

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Caesar's Ent. and MGM casinos started off mandating masks inside casinos, but that is a moot point now since as of Friday masks will be required inside in all public areas in all of Nevada - including of course all casinos.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/nevadas...ic-11593049569
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  7. #7
    Sisolak lost his Fucking Mind!

    SECTION 4: For the purposes of this Directive, "face covering'' is defined as covering that fully covers a person's nose and mouth, including without limitation, cloth face masks, surgical masks, towels, scarves, and bandanas. This Directive shall not be construed to require the public to wear medical-grade masks, including masks rated N95, KN95, and their equivalent or better.

    Loopholes...

    The mandatory provisions of this Directive shall not apply to:

    2. Individuals experiencing homelessness. Such individuals are encouraged to take protective measures to the greatest extent practicable.

    3. Individuals who cannot wear a face covering due to a medical condition or disability, or who are unable to remove a mask without assistance. Persons exempted under this provision should wear a non-restrictive alternative, such as a face shield. Persons exempted under this provision shall not be required to produce documentation verifying the condition.

    7. Individuals who are engaged in outdoor work or recreation such as swimming, walking, hiking, bicycling, or running, when alone or with household members, and when they are able to maintain a distance of at least six feet from others.
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    Last edited by monet; 06-25-2020 at 09:49 PM.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    MGM has just joined the must have mask rule. Good luck all those fighting not to wear masks. You gonna lose this fight.

    Just wear the damn masks and save your energy not to mention saving some lives

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mg...day-2020-06-25
    For someone who believes that racism or discrimination is wrong, now you are discriminating against people who do not wear a mask.
    Seems Hypocritical.
    Not everyone can afford them or breath very well in them.

    The truth is Slavery never ended.
    Most of us are slaves to the system in one form or another.
    Slavery and the way it is implemented, just evolved.

  9. #9
    I'm not a huge fan of wearing a mask. Alot of it is because the mask is ineffective protection unless it meets certain criteria, fitted properly, and remains uncontaminated for duration of use. On top of that you would also need adequate eye protection or the mask is kind of pointless.

    It has been proven to be effective in societies where 95% or greater of the population wears them though. This is due to containing infected peoples bodily fluids in the mask. As long as everyone is wearing one to do their part I have no problem putting a piece of fabric over my face.

    Really though society is just prolonging the inevitable. I would opt for letting it run wild and thin the herd for a fast track to herd immunity if given the choice.

    Also, I don't want to get this Chinese AIDS bullshit because the long term repercussions are unknown. So I will take responsibility to take all precautions I feel necessary, but without demanding others do whatever I do.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Sisolak lost his Fucking Mind!

    SECTION 4: For the purposes of this Directive, "face covering'' is defined as covering that fully covers a person's nose and mouth, including without limitation, cloth face masks, surgical masks, towels, scarves, and bandanas. This Directive shall not be construed to require the public to wear medical-grade masks, including masks rated N95, KN95, and their equivalent or better.

    Loopholes...

    The mandatory provisions of this Directive shall not apply to:

    2. Individuals experiencing homelessness. Such individuals are encouraged to take protective measures to the greatest extent practicable.

    3. Individuals who cannot wear a face covering due to a medical condition or disability, or who are unable to remove a mask without assistance. Persons exempted under this provision should wear a non-restrictive alternative, such as a face shield. Persons exempted under this provision shall not be required to produce documentation verifying the condition.

    7. Individuals who are engaged in outdoor work or recreation such as swimming, walking, hiking, bicycling, or running, when alone or with household members, and when they are able to maintain a distance of at least six feet from others.
    Well I have to say that this pretty much sums it all up. I mean of all the discourse (hundreds of messages) that has been occurring about this Covid virus on VCT, the message on the mask in the cartoon image and the exceptions to the directive absolutely kill the narrative. After reading your post, anyone who thinks this is about anything other than control is a total moron. In a paradoxical way Sisolak is a hero because he has let the cat out of the bag regarding this farce. Anyone should refer to this post of yours Monet with Sisolak's exceptions to the directives and the message on the mask in the cartoon image each time you, me or any other person wants to demolish the narrative. The narrative that is perpetuated by people who think that if you pull down your mask to smoke, the cigarette or the smoke stops the virus from spreading. The narrative that is perpetuated by people who think that the purpose of a protest or rally will determine if the virus spreads or not. The narrative that is perpetuated by people who claim that the repercussions of the lockdown, despite their nearly infinite complexity are somehow able to be modeled. "If it is impossible to comply with the rule, then the virus won't spread".

  11. #11
    Don't get me wrong.
    If some business requires you to wear a mask to buy groceries or whatever I am going to comply.
    I may pull my mask down and put it back up a few times in the store as it gets difficult to breath after a few moments.
    I certainly am not going to play long hours in a Casino though.
    Most likely just pick up free play and leave.

    My problem is these assholes who think some paper or cloth mask is going to do anything which it is not.
    You still have to touch money and everything else like boxes and such.
    You still have to breath the same air if it is filtered or not.
    The odds of actually catching this thing are small but for a bunch of APs, it appears, they think it is easier than making a pair of Jacks in Video Poker.
    Since the Casinos have opened I have played many hours not wearing a mask late at night/early morning as I usually do.
    I tried to catch it but nothing doing.
    Guess I just run good.
    Guess something else like Cancer, Heart Attack, Stroke or Falling will get me in the end.
    I survived decades of Teflon Use and 20 some odd years of unprotected sex.
    By the way, they did studies of unprotected sex with infected people and it was near impossible to transfer the disease.
    It was by far easier to catch it with homosexual sex compared to heterosexual sex which I found interesting.
    You can look that up if you like.

    Back to the masks... it's a mandate... not really a law as of yet.
    The mandate is getting serious push back though.
    You can't convince me that wearing a paper towel or hanky is going to save you from catching or spreading a virus.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    MGM has just joined the must have mask rule. Good luck all those fighting not to wear masks. You gonna lose this fight.

    Just wear the damn masks and save your energy not to mention saving some lives

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mg...day-2020-06-25
    For someone who believes that racism or discrimination is wrong, now you are discriminating against people who do not wear a mask.
    Seems Hypocritical.
    Not everyone can afford them or breath very well in them.

    The truth is Slavery never ended.
    Most of us are slaves to the system in one form or another.
    Slavery and the way it is implemented, just evolved.
    I am not discriminating against people who refuse to wear masks. Go right ahead and refuse.

    How is it working out though? Virus numbers going down? Hospitals not being overwhelmed?

    It's a health crisis. The government is going to do what it has to in order to protect for the greater good.

    BTW, I thought you were for law and order? If the law says you have to wear a mask, why are you so gung ho to break the law and fight against it.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Well I have to say that this pretty much sums it all up. I mean of all the discourse (hundreds of messages) that has been occurring about this Covid virus on VCT, the message on the mask in the cartoon image and the exceptions to the directive absolutely kill the narrative. After reading your post, anyone who thinks this is about anything other than control is a total moron. In a paradoxical way Sisolak is a hero because he has let the cat out of the bag regarding this farce. Anyone should refer to this post of yours Monet with Sisolak's exceptions to the directives and the message on the mask in the cartoon image each time you, me or any other person wants to demolish the narrative. The narrative that is perpetuated by people who think that if you pull down your mask to smoke, the cigarette or the smoke stops the virus from spreading. The narrative that is perpetuated by people who think that the purpose of a protest or rally will determine if the virus spreads or not. The narrative that is perpetuated by people who claim that the repercussions of the lockdown, despite their nearly infinite complexity are somehow able to be modeled. "If it is impossible to comply with the rule, then the virus won't spread".
    This is where it gets interesting and it isn't so cut and dry.
    It's complicated but hospitals get more money if they have more Covid Patients and even more reimbursement if they are on ventilators.
    Of course nobody is padding the system to make more money... right??

  14. #14
    Maxpen basically makes the best point.
    What good is a mask if you are not wearing proper Eye Protection???
    The whole thing is a farce and someone is making money from it.
    I wouldn't doubt Sisolak is getting a kickback for this thing in some way.
    So if you are going to force us to wear masks, force us to wear the proper N95 mask or better.
    And force us to wear proper Eye Protection.
    Might as well force us to disinfect ourselves every time we re-enter our houses as well.
    The mask mandate or enforcement is a farce plain and simple.

    Explain to me how the Homeless don't have to wear Masks???

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Maxpen basically makes the best point.
    What good is a mask if you are not wearing proper Eye Protection???
    The whole thing is a farce and someone is making money from it.
    I wouldn't doubt Sisolak is getting a kickback for this thing in some way.
    So if you are going to force us to wear masks, force us to wear the proper N95 mask or better.
    And force us to wear proper Eye Protection.
    Might as well force us to disinfect ourselves every time we re-enter our houses as well.
    The mask mandate or enforcement is a farce plain and simple.

    Explain to me how the Homeless don't have to wear Masks???
    Maxpen actually makes a horrible point.

    Covid-19 is a respiratory disease. You don't breathe in thru your eyeballs. Can't catch it that way.

    Has to be inhaled.

    Or if you have it on your fingers from a contaminated surface, then pick your nose or lick your fingers you can catch it.

    People go on respirators and ventilators. It fills the lungs with fluid

    It's not an ocular disease

  16. #16
    Technically, Covid-19 could attach itself to the eye covering. It is rare. Studies have listed the occurrence at less than 1%. It is unknown in these cases as to whether the virus began entry via the eye or the infection traveled backwards to the eye.

    The tear ducts connects the eyes to the nasal cavity. Also, if the virus is on the eye membrane, one could rub their eyes and then have the virus enter the body through the nose or mouth.

    This is why healthcare workers are wearing goggles or face shields. Again, the general public will likely not have the virus enter through the eyes, but it could occur.

  17. #17
    "I may pull my mask down and put it back up a few times in the store as it gets difficult to breath after a few moments.
    I certainly am not going to play long hours in a Casino" Exactly, when people wear a mask they touch their faces constantly, making transmission easier than it would be otherwise.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  18. #18
    I am so tired of the FearMongering.
    If you come into contact with a carrier without social distancing, hand-washing or mask-wearing...
    Your chances of catching this thing are about 3800 to 1.

    For a 50 to 64 year-old individual, hospitalization is 1 in 709,000.
    Fatality is 1 in 6,670,000.

    The truth is most people are going to get very mild symptoms and recover.
    Some people will hit the unwanted jackpot and die.
    Overall, you have a 19,100,000 to 1 chance of death from Covid-19.
    Overall, your chances of being hospitalized from Covid-19 are 852,000 to 1.

    In a lifetime, a person has a better chance of dying from a lightning strike compared to death form the Chinese AIDS, as maxpen calls it.
    Those odds are 161,856 to 1.
    Over the span of your lifetime you have a 114 to 1 chance of dying in a Motor Vehicle Crash... 114 to 1 in a lifetime!!
    Think about those odds the next time you are doing 80 miles per hour in a 65!
    Seems they updated those odds to 103 to 1 now... same difference.
    Your chances of dying from heart disease is 6 to 1.
    Cancer is 7 to 1.
    Heck, Dan Druff has a better chance of dying from Gastroesophageal Reflux, which is at 500,000 to 1, compared to Covid-19 chances.
    I know, I know... just shut the whole fucking world down because you are scared.
    Last edited by monet; 06-26-2020 at 06:52 AM.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    "I may pull my mask down and put it back up a few times in the store as it gets difficult to breath after a few moments.
    I certainly am not going to play long hours in a Casino" Exactly, when people wear a mask they touch their faces constantly, making transmission easier than it would be otherwise.
    I'm really screwed because I have been using the same paper mask for months now.
    I have folded it up and tucked it into my pocket so many times the virus has to be on that thing lol.
    I'm sure it has plenty of bacteria all over it if it doesn't have those Chinese AIDS.
    Probably end up dying from Staph Infection, from an unclean paper mask.

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