Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by Deech View Post
First off, Trump will not be the second coming of Grover Cleveland. He will not have two non consecutive terms of the presidency.

Secondly, if COVID 19 is the cause, it is because of his handling of the virus, not the strategy of the Chinese government. On March 2nd; COVID cases around the world were: China 80,000, South Korea 4,200, Italy 1,700, Iran 1,000, Japan 1,000 and US 62. This is a broad look at the top infected countries. To me, it does not appear that China had eyes on America for the upcoming pandemic. Somehow, America misplayed this virus. We spun 62 infected individuals into 210,000 deaths. On February 11th, Sanders won the NH primary. He was running strong for the Democratic position. Biden was on the ropes at this time. China was not maneuvering for Biden.

Do I believe that China prefers a Democrat in office, yes. Do I believe that Russia wants Trump, yes. Everyone in Congress admits that Russia interfered with the 2016 election. They have already sent out a virus recently to affect computers. Microsoft and the Federal Government have intercepted this. Do I believe that China is likewise doing the same thing, yes. Thus, my point is that if Trump loses the election it is not because of a foreign country. It is because of the process of applying silver nitrate onto glass. It is called a mirror. America is changing its mind from four years ago. I welcomed the change when it happened 48 months ago. Time to move on.

Rob, serious question. You were very adamant about the upcoming election and now you have changed your mind. Something happened for you to do a 180 degree flip. I have two different friends in the northeast, strong republicans, that have your sentiments on the potential results of the election. No interest in the November 3rd election. Without using the international excuse (China), there are only three main recent developments; bad first debate, no second debate, receiving COVID. I cannot believe the pessimism in such a short time. Are you able to give a reason for this negativity?
Trump losing can't be due to Trump losing. That would be heresy.

Rob can forget about California. By 2024, Texas will be a hybrid Red/Blue state. After that, the demography will shift it to blue unless the law changes so only property owners can vote. LOL. That'll be the next argument.

Anybody catch the states with 50% covid increase in cases since last week? All red. Tennessee, North Carolina, and Montana lead the way. No surprises.
Anyone can cherry pick stats. The states with the highest per capita Covid death rates are New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut. All democrat controlled states. The blue wave.