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  1. #1
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    For me, it's simply a repeat of 2016-the lesser of two evils-only reversed. Conservatism misrepresented by a lying, heartless, moneygrabbing, dictator versus socialist ideas toned down by SOME bipartisan leadership. I see no major problem with Barrett-she was just used as a pawn like all of Trump's choices. Eventually they all see thru him. Hopefully, McConnell and Graham will be tossed-they have shown their colors braggart style.
    Sling for a conservative/moderate you seem to have a problem seeing very far down the chessboard. Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch aren’t pawns, they are promises kept.

    Playing chess not checkers, do you actually think the country will be better off with Biden? He won’t respond to the court packing question. I guess we don’t deserve to know.

  2. #2
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    For me, it's simply a repeat of 2016-the lesser of two evils-only reversed. Conservatism misrepresented by a lying, heartless, moneygrabbing, dictator versus socialist ideas toned down by SOME bipartisan leadership. I see no major problem with Barrett-she was just used as a pawn like all of Trump's choices. Eventually they all see thru him. Hopefully, McConnell and Graham will be tossed-they have shown their colors braggart style.
    Sling for a conservative/moderate you seem to have a problem seeing very far down the chessboard. Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch aren’t pawns, they are promises kept.

    Playing chess not checkers, do you actually think the country will be better off with Biden? He won’t respond to the court packing question. I guess we don’t deserve to know.
    This is so easy-the Trump trap. Say you will consider packing the courts- Trump then asks well what's wrong with what we're doing? Again, what's his healthcare plan promised 31/2 years ago-will he phase out SS? I guess we don't deserve to know.

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    For me, it's simply a repeat of 2016-the lesser of two evils-only reversed. Conservatism misrepresented by a lying, heartless, moneygrabbing, dictator versus socialist ideas toned down by SOME bipartisan leadership. I see no major problem with Barrett-she was just used as a pawn like all of Trump's choices. Eventually they all see thru him. Hopefully, McConnell and Graham will be tossed-they have shown their colors braggart style.
    Sling for a conservative/moderate you seem to have a problem seeing very far down the chessboard. Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch aren’t pawns, they are promises kept.

    Playing chess not checkers, do you actually think the country will be better off with Biden? He won’t respond to the court packing question. I guess we don’t deserve to know.
    This is so easy-the Trump trap. Say you will consider packing the courts- Trump then asks well what's wrong with what we're doing? Again, what's his healthcare plan promised 31/2 years ago-will he phase out SS? I guess we don't deserve to know.
    Of course we deserve to know. SS will NOT be phased out. Who said that it was? Geez obfuscation at it's best.
    Is the country going to be better off with 47 year career politician Biden? I'll ask again.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post

    Sling for a conservative/moderate you seem to have a problem seeing very far down the chessboard. Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch aren’t pawns, they are promises kept.

    Playing chess not checkers, do you actually think the country will be better off with Biden? He won’t respond to the court packing question. I guess we don’t deserve to know.
    This is so easy-the Trump trap. Say you will consider packing the courts- Trump then asks well what's wrong with what we're doing? Again, what's his healthcare plan promised 31/2 years ago-will he phase out SS? I guess we don't deserve to know.
    Of course we deserve to know. SS will NOT be phased out. Who said that it was? Geez obfuscation at it's best.
    Is the country going to be better off with 47 year career politician Biden? I'll ask again.
    https://www.aol.com/article/finance/...risk/24589823/

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    For me, it's simply a repeat of 2016-the lesser of two evils-only reversed. Conservatism misrepresented by a lying, heartless, moneygrabbing, dictator versus socialist ideas toned down by SOME bipartisan leadership. I see no major problem with Barrett-she was just used as a pawn like all of Trump's choices. Eventually they all see thru him. Hopefully, McConnell and Graham will be tossed-they have shown their colors braggart style.
    Sling you've got serious problems if that's what you're seeing. I'll give you only a few examples here, and I expect you'll begin to realize somebody somewhere has brainwashed you something fierce.

    1. Does Trump lie? Do politicians lie?? What bothers and confuses you about him is he is not a politician, but he drives them (and you never-Trumpers fools) crazy with his calculated but very well-placed exaggerations, embellishments, and ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

    2. If you look beyond that queer negro Don Lemon, you'd see where across Trump's entire lifetime, he's been the most thoughtful, empathetic & sympathetic and giving president in our country's history. Your and others' blindness to that comes from your disagreement with him being able to simply enforce the laws as dictated by Congress. People like you actually want him to ignore those laws. That's very stupid.

    3. Is Trump "money-grabbing"? As a capitalist and very successful businessman....I certainly hope so. As our President....he doesn't take a salary. So do you know how dumb you sound when you say "money-grabbing"?

    4. Is Trump a Dictator? Only people who get so very frustrated by his uncanny energy, his ability to do more than he said he was going to do, and his propensity to rub it into critic's faces and basically win almost every single challenge, are the ones that cannot stand the man. He seems to burn your ass with his anti-swamp style, and he does do that to the weak among us.

    5. Trump's Supreme Count picks are his "pawns"? I can tell you're irritated by his being able to get 3 conservatives onto the court even if he loses the election, because that's what never-Trumpers do. They cannot stomach his successes, so they jump up and down like screaming/spoiled little children who can't get their way. And I hope you're learning a thing or two more about the brilliance of Trump as you watch his very special pick Any Barrett completely impress and at the same time rip apart the hapless, hopeless democrats this week. It is a thing of beauty, is it not?....watching a devout Catholic mother of 7 and attractive & loving wife who's never been divorced, showing Feinstein & Co. exactly and precisely how small they are!

    Please wise up.

  6. #6
    Hard to believe the phony media is actually having a phony effect on some people.

    This is going to make my party at my house November third all the more exciting. I’ll have two wide screen T. V’s on during the election with one tuned to MSNBC and the other to CNN. The excitement and joy as the crescendo of the election builds to a Trump victory only comes once in four years.

    The tears and claims of white-lash are priceless. Then we’ll get to enjoy the bought and paid for democratic media explain the thousand different reasons why they lost. The excitement meter could break threw the glass if we take the House back and keep the Senate with even more members.

    Imagine the actual chances of actually having the opportunity to drain the swamp even lower?

    This November third 2020 will be more fun than any Super Bowl, NBA final, or any other BLACK LIVES MATTER political special they could try and convince us to watch.

    I’m confident the best is yet to come.

  7. #7
    The SS Ponzi Scheme should immediately be terminated and every single person who has had any money put into it be immediately refunded that exact amount.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The SS Ponzi Scheme should immediately be terminated and every single person who has had any money put into it be immediately refunded that exact amount.
    Of course it’s a Ponzi scheme. Put in place by a Democrat who tried to pack the Supreme Court and was stopped by his own party. They had waaay more integrity than they do now.

    Your idea of paying people back is not a horrible idea but it’s not gonna fly because they need every swinging dick to be paying into it just to prop it up. People already collecting and those close to are not going for a payout. Especially without any mention of interest.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The SS Ponzi Scheme should immediately be terminated and every single person who has had any money put into it be immediately refunded that exact amount.
    Sign me up please.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The SS Ponzi Scheme should immediately be terminated and every single person who has had any money put into it be immediately refunded that exact amount.
    Sign me up please.
    While I know both of you are being sarcastic and facetious, I needed a mathematical exercise. As an older individual that will hopefully receive SS in four years, I wondered if I would have been better without contributing to SS (which is not an option). I spent over an hour trying to determine base numbers. Remember, the employer gives equal amount to SS as the employee. If some one does not want to give into SS (which is technically not an option) and they want their money, then the equal contribution from the employer should/could not be added.

    Long story made short; my base SS number is worth 4 years of SS benefits at 66 1/2 years. If I took every dollar I earned for 35 years and put it in a 4% savings, at age 66 1/2 I would have slightly above 8 years of the SS payout. The numbers would double (8 years without interest and 16/17 years with interest) if you want to claim the employer's contribution. With age expectancy at 84 or so, that would be a wash.

    So, if the SS program lives, it is beneficial. If it dies, I will hunted down like a dog.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The SS Ponzi Scheme should immediately be terminated and every single person who has had any money put into it be immediately refunded that exact amount.
    Sign me up please.
    While I know both of you are being sarcastic and facetious, I needed a mathematical exercise. As an older individual that will hopefully receive SS in four years, I wondered if I would have been better without contributing to SS (which is not an option). I spent over an hour trying to determine base numbers. Remember, the employer gives equal amount to SS as the employee. If some one does not want to give into SS (which is technically not an option) and they want their money, then the equal contribution from the employer should/could not be added.

    Long story made short; my base SS number is worth 4 years of SS benefits at 66 1/2 years. If I took every dollar I earned for 35 years and put it in a 4% savings, at age 66 1/2 I would have slightly above 8 years of the SS payout. The numbers would double (8 years without interest and 16/17 years with interest) if you want to claim the employer's contribution. With age expectancy at 84 or so, that would be a wash.

    So, if the SS program lives, it is beneficial. If it dies, I will hunted down like a dog.
    You'll never get back equal to or more than you put into it. It's a scam.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The SS Ponzi Scheme should immediately be terminated and every single person who has had any money put into it be immediately refunded that exact amount.
    Sign me up please.
    While I know both of you are being sarcastic and facetious, I needed a mathematical exercise. As an older individual that will hopefully receive SS in four years, I wondered if I would have been better without contributing to SS (which is not an option). I spent over an hour trying to determine base numbers. Remember, the employer gives equal amount to SS as the employee. If some one does not want to give into SS (which is technically not an option) and they want their money, then the equal contribution from the employer should/could not be added.

    Long story made short; my base SS number is worth 4 years of SS benefits at 66 1/2 years. If I took every dollar I earned for 35 years and put it in a 4% savings, at age 66 1/2 I would have slightly above 8 years of the SS payout. The numbers would double (8 years without interest and 16/17 years with interest) if you want to claim the employer's contribution. With age expectancy at 84 or so, that would be a wash.

    So, if the SS program lives, it is beneficial. If it dies, I will hunted down like a dog.
    I was being serious. On top of whatever I contributed my employer contributed an equal amount on my behalf. i.e. they paid the government and not me for my labor.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post

    Sign me up please.
    While I know both of you are being sarcastic and facetious, I needed a mathematical exercise. As an older individual that will hopefully receive SS in four years, I wondered if I would have been better without contributing to SS (which is not an option). I spent over an hour trying to determine base numbers. Remember, the employer gives equal amount to SS as the employee. If some one does not want to give into SS (which is technically not an option) and they want their money, then the equal contribution from the employer should/could not be added.

    Long story made short; my base SS number is worth 4 years of SS benefits at 66 1/2 years. If I took every dollar I earned for 35 years and put it in a 4% savings, at age 66 1/2 I would have slightly above 8 years of the SS payout. The numbers would double (8 years without interest and 16/17 years with interest) if you want to claim the employer's contribution. With age expectancy at 84 or so, that would be a wash.

    So, if the SS program lives, it is beneficial. If it dies, I will hunted down like a dog.
    I was being serious. On top of whatever I contributed my employer contributed an equal amount on my behalf. i.e. they paid the government and not me for my labor.
    Pro, you are 100 percent correct. The bad news is that 6.2% from your gross to SS and the same amount form your employer does likewise. This is non negotiable. I just wanted to give insight (and learn for myself) if the scales were weighed against us. After dong my minimal math calculations, if correct, the SS is not a bad program. I do not work for the government. Hey, the numbers state that I dare you to live to 84 years old. Let's do it.

  14. #14
    Yes, we'll be better off. I would have rather had a John Kasich in 2016, but you have to play the hand you're dealt. Instead of firing everyone who disagrees, I think we will have a more bipartisan government. Packing the court discussions are only diversions to the real issues that matter. IT DOESN'T MATTER! And it's the very thing Trump's doing now!

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Yes, we'll be better off. I would have rather had a John Kasich in 2016, but you have to play the hand you're dealt. Instead of firing everyone who disagrees, I think we will have a more bipartisan government. Packing the court discussions are only diversions to the real issues that matter. IT DOESN'T MATTER! And it's the very thing Trump's doing now!
    Thanks sling.
    I respect your opinion but couldn't disagree more.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Yes, we'll be better off. I would have rather had a John Kasich in 2016, but you have to play the hand you're dealt. Instead of firing everyone who disagrees, I think we will have a more bipartisan government. Packing the court discussions are only diversions to the real issues that matter. IT DOESN'T MATTER! And it's the very thing Trump's doing now!
    Thanks sling.
    I respect your opinion but couldn't disagree more.
    Likewise.

  17. #17
    Watch this my left wing communist /socialists / pay off my student loans voters. This will help soften the blow to the head that's coming.


  18. #18
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Watch this my left wing communist /socialists / pay off my student loans voters. This will help soften the blow to the head that's coming.

    I read your election night TV plan and I'm doing the same thing. There was nothing like watching the A-G-O-N-Y & P-A-I-N on the liberal faces as it became more and more apparent that crooked Hillary and her pervert husband would NOT EVER be going back to the White House. And while I don't have as much confidence in the people of this country to do the right thing this year, I've got my fingers crossed that we'll see the same lost, lonely and foresaken crocodile tears in 3 weeks.

  19. #19
    And all fucking reality it's going to be a cum sperm night.

    Both sides, if you're on the left or the right you're going to be in front of your TV with either a prostitute sucking your dick or jar of lotion and a roll of paper towels. Because if you're on the left you got a shot at getting one of your people back in and you're definitely going to want to jack off and get a nut when that happens or at least with the thought of it anyway.

    And if you're on the right, get a fine-looking bitch to suck your cock while Trump gets re-elected and cum at the same time he's announced the next president. So either way I'll be a cumblast guys!!!!!

  20. #20
    And we are not halfway thru October...
    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-...iz-man-to-dad/
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

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