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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I want to say that, despite what happened, I wish Alan and Jason well. Alan is an interesting guy, and not a bad person. He just seems to have a gambling problem, and that has probably caused him to make some poor life decisions. It's too bad that all of this ugliness occurred, because at one point I considered Alan a friend. Among other things, I made a point to meet with him in Vegas and introduce him to my girlfriend and son, and I even spent some time on the phone with him, giving advice about some issues in his personal life.

    I don't know Jason, other than my brief interactions with him. However, I know he has a young kid, and financial issues can be incredibly stressful when you have a child to support. For that reason, I don't hold a grudge against him for anything that occurred, but I also hope he understands things from my point of view.

    As I mentioned in the thread I linked, I REALLY didn't want to tell that story. I didn't want to air dirty laundry about Alan and Jason, even though it directly involved me. However, since Alan was making false/misleading accusations against me when talking to other people, I had to set the record straight.

    Anyone who knows me in real life -- or even through my other forums -- will tell you that I am a man of integrity, and would never screw someone over or rip anyone off. Even most people who dislike me will concede that.
    I don't believe Jason was trying to deceive you. He was just trying to squeeze you to get as much as he thought possible. And why wouldn't he? Alan was pouring all his money into the poker machines, and in the process stiffing him on legitimate owed wages, wbich was causing serious financial hardship for his young family.

    At the time Alan spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me, trying to explain how he "never really promised" to pay Jason these wages. I wasn't buying that, given Alan's gambling problem and my witnessing his sweaty hands and constant nervous counting and re-counting the remaining hundreds in his wallet as he rapidly lost at the $5 machine.

    Pray for Alan.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by House of Orange View Post
    Thank you Dan. Now please remove Tasha from this forum.
    Fuck you. Even on WOV when I was still an Active Member technically hadn't done anything wrong on WOV yet, you were pushing for me to get a six month Suspension.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


    Smart is knowing a Tomato is a fruit.

    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



    I am glad to get my full posting rights back! Thank you Dan!

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I don't believe Jason was trying to deceive you. He was just trying to squeeze you to get as much as he thought possible. And why wouldn't he? Alan was pouring all his money into the poker machines, and in the process stiffing him on legitimate owed wages, wbich was causing serious financial hardship for his young family.

    At the time Alan spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me, trying to explain how he "never really promised" to pay Jason these wages. I wasn't buying that, given Alan's gambling problem and my witnessing his sweaty hands and constant nervous counting and re-counting the remaining hundreds in his wallet as he rapidly lost at the $5 machine.

    Pray for Alan.
    Does anyone here really give a flying fuck about whatever the actual facts may be about this forum’s history one way or the other?

    If Alan, Jason, Dan or any other member on this forum dropped dead tonight would any member here show up to that person’s funeral? Imagine sending flowers signed from Blackhole?

    I keep stopping in here because I can’t believe the level of ignorance, only to be out done by the next visit.

    Was Dan really willing to throw a few hundred dollars in the sewer to preserve threads with information? Could someone direct me to those threads with information worth more than a free burger and fries? I could see his free pro picks worth something if you knew to do the opposite of whatever he suggested. I’m pretty sure the math would confirm that would be a winning long-term strategy.

    What is the purpose of this site?

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I don't believe Jason was trying to deceive you. He was just trying to squeeze you to get as much as he thought possible. And why wouldn't he? Alan was pouring all his money into the poker machines, and in the process stiffing him on legitimate owed wages, wbich was causing serious financial hardship for his young family.

    At the time Alan spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me, trying to explain how he "never really promised" to pay Jason these wages. I wasn't buying that, given Alan's gambling problem and my witnessing his sweaty hands and constant nervous counting and re-counting the remaining hundreds in his wallet as he rapidly lost at the $5 machine.

    Pray for Alan.
    Does anyone here really give a flying fuck about whatever the actual facts may be about this forum’s history one way or the other?

    If Alan, Jason, Dan or any other member on this forum dropped dead tonight would any member here show up to that person’s funeral? Imagine sending flowers signed from Blackhole?

    I keep stopping in here because I can’t believe the level of ignorance, only to be out done by the next visit.

    Was Dan really willing to throw a few hundred dollars in the sewer to preserve threads with information? Could someone direct me to those threads with information worth more than a free burger and fries? I could see his free pro picks worth something if you knew to do the opposite of whatever he suggested. I’m pretty sure the math would confirm that would be a winning long-term strategy.

    What is the purpose of this site?
    Some people might show up for yours just to make sure they shovel the dirt on top.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I don't believe Jason was trying to deceive you. He was just trying to squeeze you to get as much as he thought possible. And why wouldn't he? Alan was pouring all his money into the poker machines, and in the process stiffing him on legitimate owed wages, wbich was causing serious financial hardship for his young family.

    At the time Alan spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me, trying to explain how he "never really promised" to pay Jason these wages. I wasn't buying that, given Alan's gambling problem and my witnessing his sweaty hands and constant nervous counting and re-counting the remaining hundreds in his wallet as he rapidly lost at the $5 machine.

    Pray for Alan.
    Does anyone here really give a flying fuck about whatever the actual facts may be about this forum’s history one way or the other?

    If Alan, Jason, Dan or any other member on this forum dropped dead tonight would any member here show up to that person’s funeral? Imagine sending flowers signed from Blackhole?

    I keep stopping in here because I can’t believe the level of ignorance, only to be out done by the next visit.

    Was Dan really willing to throw a few hundred dollars in the sewer to preserve threads with information? Could someone direct me to those threads with information worth more than a free burger and fries? I could see his free pro picks worth something if you knew to do the opposite of whatever he suggested. I’m pretty sure the math would confirm that would be a winning long-term strategy.

    What is the purpose of this site?
    Cuckhole once again you prove you are just another psychobabbling idiot with no reading comprehension.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Some people might show up for yours just to make sure they shovel the dirt on top.
    Putting actual facts in the spotlight will only highlight the stupidity based here. Pretty sure the best is yet to come.

  7. #27
    There are a number of people here that would care if something negative happened to DanDruff. Blackhole your problem is no one wants anything to do with you here or in real life. So you cannot understand.
    That's quite a common thing with pieces of shit such as yourself blackhole.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    There are a number of people here that would care if something negative happened to DanDruff. Blackhole your problem is no one wants anything to do with you here or in real life. So you cannot understand.
    That's quite a common thing with pieces of shit such as yourself blackhole.
    There is a number of posters on here I enjoy conversing with and would be upset if anything happened to them.

    The outpouring of concern when Mickey had his health issue on Twitter and multiple forums showed the goodness in many people on here. Including ones who had online feuds with him. That shit goes away quickly when people respect you, even when they disagree.

  9. #29
    Yes, I wanted to preserve the forum. I had participated in it for 3 years by that point (2016), and I was enjoying my time here.

    It also didn't cost me any money to preserve -- only a little extra time. It was already running on my server, so it was just a change of who makes the decisions here. I went from tech guy to "everything guy".

    The purpose of this forum is to provide a "mostly free speech" community to talk about Vegas and advantage gambling issues, without fear of censorship or heavy moderation.
    Check out my poker forum, and weekly internet radio show at http://pokerfraudalert.com

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The purpose of this forum is to provide a "mostly free speech" community to talk about Vegas and advantage gambling issues,
    That sounds great! Unfortunately that is NOT what you have here, Dan. Most topics here are not about gambling or Las Vegas but rather politics or quickly go to politics. The ultimate insult here seems to be to call someone a "liberal". Although there are other "haters" hating for other reasons. That is what you are down to, a handful of haters and people who want to turn everything into politics.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The purpose of this forum is to provide a "mostly free speech" community to talk about Vegas and advantage gambling issues,
    That sounds great! Unfortunately that is NOT what you have here, Dan. Most topics here are not about gambling or Las Vegas but rather politics or quickly go to politics. The ultimate insult here seems to be to call someone a "liberal". Although there are other "haters" hating for other reasons. That is what you are down to, a handful of haters and people who want to turn everything into politics.
    Why do you care cocksucker? Don’t you think Dan knows what he has here. And he doesn’t have a problem with it. You have been told it many times.

    You truly are a lying piece of shit who can’t even keep his word to quit a forum. And you were not one of the people I disagree with on these forums I only wish the best for. Because you deserve everything you get when you post your whining over and over.

    I’ll go back to not a person has any proof to believe anything you say. It’s all about attention, just like you newest “cheating” accusation. And it’s bad when Alan made you look like a fool. I’ll give you credit for that one, not many people make Alan look credible.

    I spite of all this, I do hope you stay healthy. We need punching bags like you to show up occasionally. You are this generations Patrick.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The purpose of this forum is to provide a "mostly free speech" community to talk about Vegas and advantage gambling issues,
    That sounds great! Unfortunately that is NOT what you have here, Dan. Most topics here are not about gambling or Las Vegas but rather politics or quickly go to politics. The ultimate insult here seems to be to call someone a "liberal". Although there are other "haters" hating for other reasons. That is what you are down to, a handful of haters and people who want to turn everything into politics.
    Why do you care cocksucker? Don’t you think Dan knows what he has here. And he doesn’t have a problem with it. You have been told it many times.

    You truly are a lying piece of shit who can’t even keep his word to quit a forum. And you were not one of the people I disagree with on these forums I only wish the best for. Because you deserve everything you get when you post your whining over and over.

    I’ll go back to not a person has any proof to believe anything you say. It’s all about attention, just like you newest “cheating” accusation. And it’s bad when Alan made you look like a fool. I’ll give you credit for that one, not many people make Alan look credible.

    I spite of all this, I do hope you stay healthy. We need punching bags like you to show up occasionally. You are this generations Patrick.
    "Fuck you, you homophobic red neck dick" (lyrics from Pea by Red Hot Chili Peppers).

    Thanks for making my case Boz, you piece of shit. I am responding to Dan Druff and you just HAD to interject your hate, because you are a hater, just a really small human being.

    Alan didn't make me look like a fool. He made himself look like a fool, because a number of top blackjack players have all confirmed they track a second table when conditions permit. People like Don Schlesinger, Munchkin, one of the members of Tommy Hyland's long running blackjack team and other longtime professional players. Anyone who thinks Alan, who rarely if ever plays blackjack is right and all these top professional players is wrong, is themselves a fool, or just a flat out "hater" unwilling to accept reality.

    AS for my new "cheating accusation", I have said half dozen times, that I am not accusing anyone of cheating (yet). Apparently, you being stuck in first grade mentality has not yet learned to read. I am just exploring some severe variance and comparing with other players experiences at the same location. Just what a gambling forum is supposed to be about. You wouldn't know because you are just consumed with hate and pettiness.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    That sounds great! Unfortunately that is NOT what you have here, Dan. Most topics here are not about gambling or Las Vegas but rather politics or quickly go to politics. The ultimate insult here seems to be to call someone a "liberal". Although there are other "haters" hating for other reasons. That is what you are down to, a handful of haters and people who want to turn everything into politics.
    Why do you care cocksucker? Don’t you think Dan knows what he has here. And he doesn’t have a problem with it. You have been told it many times.

    You truly are a lying piece of shit who can’t even keep his word to quit a forum. And you were not one of the people I disagree with on these forums I only wish the best for. Because you deserve everything you get when you post your whining over and over.

    I’ll go back to not a person has any proof to believe anything you say. It’s all about attention, just like you newest “cheating” accusation. And it’s bad when Alan made you look like a fool. I’ll give you credit for that one, not many people make Alan look credible.

    I spite of all this, I do hope you stay healthy. We need punching bags like you to show up occasionally. You are this generations Patrick.
    "Fuck you, you homophobic red neck dick" (lyrics from Pea by Red Hot Chili Peppers).

    Thanks for making my case Boz, you piece of shit. I am responding to Dan Druff and you just HAD to interject your hate, because you are a hater, just a really small human being.

    Alan didn't make me look like a fool. He made himself look like a fool, because a number of top blackjack players have all confirmed they track a second table when conditions permit. People like Don Schlesinger, Munchkin, one of the members of Tommy Hyland's long running blackjack team and other longtime professional players. Anyone who thinks Alan, who rarely if ever plays blackjack is right and all these top professional players is wrong, is themselves a fool, or just a flat out "hater" unwilling to accept reality.

    AS for my new "cheating accusation", I have said half dozen times, that I am not accusing anyone of cheating (yet). Apparently, you being stuck in first grade mentality has not yet learned to read. I am just exploring some severe variance and comparing with other players experiences at the same location. Just what a gambling forum is supposed to be about. You wouldn't know because you are just consumed with hate and pettiness.

    Ok John.

  14. #34
    How refreshing to see Kewlj still making his bi-monthly appearance here.

    Looking forward to reading about his recovery after admitting losing 25K last month. He uses this same story over and over again spread over different forums (although for different amounts) simply to gain an audience and to make his stories appear realistic.

    I wish he would explain how he’s able to scramble across the same groups of casinos, counting two tables, even just one table, hit and run, no comp cards, winning over a hundred grand a year, for over 15 years or whatever never being tracked even once. Now throw in doing all of this with what we all know exists with queers is that weird queer look everyone else is able to point out that comes natural to them from sucking cocks and swallowing come. Just another obvious observation he has to detour. Now to compound his ability to avoid detection for so long, he has to also have that weird look that also comes natural to un-educated liberal idiots. I don’t know about everyone else but I could point out a lib-tard just by their miserable look without them saying a word. You just have to be convinced by now that Kewlj is completely full of shit.

    If Kewlj would get into conversation how he pulls all of this off for 15 plus years, I certainly would lend him my ear. Can’t wait for the stories of how he overcomes the Chinese Virus casino response. Smaller crowds, distance tables and people. Wonder how he sneaks past high tech surveillance now and pit crews now with less faces to track. We already know he overcame actually contacting the Chinese Virus twice. My image of this bullshit sick asshole is him walking around his mom’s place in a cape with eye covering like robin-hood with a big K on the front and back of his outfit.

    Instead I’m certain he will continue to lower the level of ignorance even further than it already is on this site. (and any other site he belongs to)

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The purpose of this forum is to provide a "mostly free speech" community to talk about Vegas and advantage gambling issues,
    That sounds great! Unfortunately that is NOT what you have here, Dan. Most topics here are not about gambling or Las Vegas but rather politics or quickly go to politics. The ultimate insult here seems to be to call someone a "liberal". Although there are other "haters" hating for other reasons. That is what you are down to, a handful of haters and people who want to turn everything into politics.

    LOL. KewlJ, Dan got it pretty much right, except for the verb. He should have used "was" instead of "is." As in "the purpose of this was forum was..."

    Like, referring to myself, "My purpose in life presently is to date Raquel Welch, Angelina Jolie, and Ivanka Trump." That covers the generational range pretty well, I think. And describes my life about as well as Dan's comment describes this forum.

    Anyway, kewlJ, there was no reason to comment on Dan's comment. It kind of stands on its own.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Why do you care cocksucker? Don’t you think Dan knows what he has here. And he doesn’t have a problem with it. You have been told it many times.

    You truly are a lying piece of shit who can’t even keep his word to quit a forum. And you were not one of the people I disagree with on these forums I only wish the best for. Because you deserve everything you get when you post your whining over and over.

    I’ll go back to not a person has any proof to believe anything you say. It’s all about attention, just like you newest “cheating” accusation. And it’s bad when Alan made you look like a fool. I’ll give you credit for that one, not many people make Alan look credible.

    I spite of all this, I do hope you stay healthy. We need punching bags like you to show up occasionally. You are this generations Patrick.
    I thought queerJ wasn't going into Casinos because of the Chinese Flu?
    Turns out he is playing Black Jack non stop according to his South Point thread.
    You can't believe a word this lying bastard posts.
    Every week he is posting the opposite of what he said the week before.

    South Point is basically the same hot spot as the El Cortel.
    It makes no sense that he would post his exact win or losses.
    These guys think someone from the Casino is always reading these posts so it wouldn't be hard to identify this player.
    How do you lose 25k playing short rounds in such a difficult Casino?
    Especially now that the Chinese Flu is running rampant the amount of players is less.
    Whatever, queerJ needs more attention.
    Last edited by monet; 09-01-2020 at 09:29 AM.

  17. #37
    You people need to learn to read. You all act like first graders and turns out you have the reading comprehension of first graders as well.

    Black hole, show me where I said I was down 25k for the month? At one game at ONE casino I am in the red 25k. If you add all my other double deck play I am roughly even, even including that bad result. And at both 6 deck and 8 deck I am above expectation, 8 deck significantly above. But you read what you want to read. Always have.

    And don't tell me "you would like to know how...". I have shared what I do and how I do it in great detail...too much detail. You don't want to hear it....you want to argue and fight me. If I say the sky is blue, You and others fight me on it. I won't waste my time repeating for someone who has made up the mind to fight whatever I say.

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