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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'm no fan of Biden's. Fairly annoyed that is the best the democratic party can do. Which is worse for voters, Biden being that old or being gay? I mean if they're going with standard white guy, should have just threw it all behind Pete. Then Kamala.. is she even black? Or another Jewish woman? (I kid.... I kid..)

    Trump isn't any better mentally. They seem about equal to me. Trump just doesn't play by the rules. Which is ok and all, but this country was founded on rules and such. That is where a great deal of our strength is derived. It is to the point where a debate is no longer a positive thing. Usually I'd say Biden is a blah blah, but honestly, Trump is about everything but honesty. To debate, you have to at least agree to not just talk out your ass constantly.

    <shrug> what're ya gonna do?
    Q: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?
    A: Their lips are moving.

    The dems throw up hoax after hoax after hoax about Trump. The press is even worse. Dems don't care about truth, only power. To them the end justifies the means.
    I see a puppet with kool-aid stained lips.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I hear the betting odds are now favoring Trump.
    Say something wrong, and of course MickeyCrimm is going to jump on it without even researching, if it supports his thoughts.

    The payout, such as at Betfair, was originally favoring Biden at 61, but has lowered to favor Biden at 50.5 This still doesn't mean "the betting odds are now favoring Grump" as AxelWolf has stated, Biden is still favored.

    However, what's more important is WHY the odds dropped. The polls still favor Biden tremendously, and he is still slated to win the election. All that happened is that a lot of big money, not so much combined smaller bets, but a lot of very large bets by individual bettors, piled onto Grump, and so the betting markets lowered the payout odds so as not to get caught in a net losing position. All they did was counterbalance the odds - the same as if a lot of bettors placed a lot of money on a long shot horse at the last minute at a race. The chances that the horse would win didn't change, just the payout odds dropped.

    This is just the sort of imprecision we've come to expect from our resident gambling expert.
    Last edited by MDawg; 09-06-2020 at 06:38 AM.
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  3. #43
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I hear the betting odds are now favoring Trump.
    Say something wrong, and of course MickeyCrimm is going to jump on it without even researching, if it supports his thoughts.

    The payout, such as at Betfair, was originally favoring Biden at 61, but has lowered to favor Biden at 50.5 This still doesn't mean "the betting odds are now favoring Grump" as AxelWolf has stated, Biden is still favored.

    However, what's more important is WHY the odds dropped. The polls still favor Biden tremendously, and he is still slated to win the election. All that happened is that a lot of big money, not so much combined smaller bets, but a lot of very large bets by individual bettors, piled onto Grump, and so the betting markets lowered the payout odds so as not to get caught in a net losing position. All they did was counterbalance the odds - the same as if a lot of bettors placed a lot of money on a long shot horse at the last minute at a race. The chances that the horse would win didn't change, just the payout odds dropped.

    This is just the sort of imprecision we've come to expect from our resident gambling expert.
    And what you don't get because you are an amateur ploppie "stick a pin in it" gambler is the polls are shaded to the dems. One of the easiest hustles in the busines. Just poll 60% dems and 40% repubs. It'll show the dem ahead every time. According to the polls Hillary was a mortal lock. What happened? Not even Fox News Poll in an honest poll.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'm no fan of Biden's. Fairly annoyed that is the best the democratic party can do. Which is worse for voters, Biden being that old or being gay? I mean if they're going with standard white guy, should have just threw it all behind Pete. Then Kamala.. is she even black? Or another Jewish woman? (I kid.... I kid..)

    Trump isn't any better mentally. They seem about equal to me. Trump just doesn't play by the rules. Which is ok and all, but this country was founded on rules and such. That is where a great deal of our strength is derived. It is to the point where a debate is no longer a positive thing. Usually I'd say Biden is a blah blah, but honestly, Trump is about everything but honesty. To debate, you have to at least agree to not just talk out your ass constantly.

    <shrug> what're ya gonna do?
    Q: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?
    A: Their lips are moving.
    That's all politicians. Not just dems.

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I hear the betting odds are now favoring Trump.
    Say something wrong, and of course MickeyCrimm is going to jump on it without even researching, if it supports his thoughts.

    The payout, such as at Betfair, was originally favoring Biden at 61, but has lowered to favor Biden at 50.5 This still doesn't mean "the betting odds are now favoring Grump" as AxelWolf has stated, Biden is still favored.

    However, what's more important is WHY the odds dropped. The polls still favor Biden tremendously, and he is still slated to win the election. All that happened is that a lot of big money, not so much combined smaller bets, but a lot of very large bets by individual bettors, piled onto Grump, and so the betting markets lowered the payout odds so as not to get caught in a net losing position. All they did was counterbalance the odds - the same as if a lot of bettors placed a lot of money on a long shot horse at the last minute at a race. The chances that the horse would win didn't change, just the payout odds dropped.

    This is just the sort of imprecision we've come to expect from our resident gambling expert.
    And what you don't get because you are an amateur ploppie "stick a pin in it" gambler is the polls are shaded to the dems. One of the easiest hustles in the busines. Just poll 60% dems and 40% repubs. It'll show the dem ahead every time. According to the polls Hillary was a mortal lock. What happened? Not even Fox News Poll in an honest poll.
    The polls were accurate in 2016 - Clinton did beat the hell out of Grump on the popular vote. Just, they didn't account for that some measly 77,000 votes across three states tipped those three states' electoral votes to red and made the election for Grump.

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post107234


    Even Grump didn't think he was going to win in 2016 (there are stories about how he covered his eyes and refused to hear any election results early in the night while the initial results were coming in mostly blue, and only let anyone discuss the ongoing election results with him much later when it started to look like he might win), and he certainly doesn't believe in his prospects this time around. In 2016, he pretty much acted like a guy at the tables holding a hard 16 while the dealer checks his card below his ace. He started to breath only after the dealer told him he could now draw.

    What some fail to acknowledge is that Grump barely won in 2016 - barely won four years ago and is even more behind this year.
    Last edited by MDawg; 09-06-2020 at 09:57 AM.
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  6. #46
    Typical whine from a pathetic California flake who pretends to be "wealthy" but truly hasn't the first clue about what makes a person wealthy.

  7. #47
    It didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.

    And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:

    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.

    And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:

    Funny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  9. #49
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.

    And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:

    Funny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?
    Deflection. Deflection. Deflection.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    It didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.

    And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:

    Funny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?
    Deflection. Deflection. Deflection.
    Not really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.

    It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.

    A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.

    God Bless this Country for that.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Funny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?
    Deflection. Deflection. Deflection.
    Not really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.

    It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.

    A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.

    God Bless this Country for that.
    You are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #52
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Deflection. Deflection. Deflection.
    Not really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.

    It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.

    A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.

    God Bless this Country for that.
    You are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
    In your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.

    That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.

    You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  13. #53
    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...tators/554810/

    Maybe that is normal behavior for a President and I am being manipulated.. maybe not.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Not really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.

    It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.

    A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.

    God Bless this Country for that.
    You are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
    In your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.

    That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.

    You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
    You're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    You are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
    In your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.

    That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.

    You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
    You're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.
    100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.

    Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.

    So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.

    Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.

    Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.

    You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.

    Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.

    Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  16. #56
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    In your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.

    That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.

    You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
    You're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.
    100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.

    Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.

    So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.

    Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.

    Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.

    You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.

    Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.

    Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
    Putin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    You're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.
    100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.

    Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.

    So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.

    Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.

    Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.

    You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.

    Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.

    Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
    Putin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.

    sniff sniff.

    I smell booze.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.

    Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.

    So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.

    Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.

    Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.

    You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.

    Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.

    Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
    Putin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.

    sniff sniff.

    I smell booze.
    If thats your "go to" you are a weak fucking little peckerwood. You just made me count though. I'm in my 43rd month without a drink.

    I smell skunk weed on you, doper. Do you got the munchies? Eat dog shit, deuchbag.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #59
    John Bolton's recent book was not to kind to the President. Bolton was highly critical of him. But Bolton was by the President's side the entire time they were in France. He says that if the President would have said anything dissing the troops he would have dedicated an entire chapter to it in his book. But he said it is patently untrue that the President dissed the troops.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Putin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.

    sniff sniff.

    I smell booze.
    If thats your "go to" you are a weak fucking little peckerwood. You just made me count though. I'm in my 43rd month without a drink.

    I smell skunk weed on you, doper. Do you got the munchies? Eat dog shit, deuchbag.
    Not really my "go to". You actually come off better if we can blame it on booze. Regardless, if you say you haven't drank in 43 months I have no reason to not believe you. Congrats.

    Weed doesn't give me the munchies. If anything I might eat less. Luckily I'm not a natural fatass.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

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