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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'm no fan of Biden's. Fairly annoyed that is the best the democratic party can do. Which is worse for voters, Biden being that old or being gay? I mean if they're going with standard white guy, should have just threw it all behind Pete. Then Kamala.. is she even black? Or another Jewish woman? (I kid.... I kid..)

    Trump isn't any better mentally. They seem about equal to me. Trump just doesn't play by the rules. Which is ok and all, but this country was founded on rules and such. That is where a great deal of our strength is derived. It is to the point where a debate is no longer a positive thing. Usually I'd say Biden is a blah blah, but honestly, Trump is about everything but honesty. To debate, you have to at least agree to not just talk out your ass constantly.

    <shrug> what're ya gonna do?
    Q: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?
    A: Their lips are moving.

    The dems throw up hoax after hoax after hoax about Trump. The press is even worse. Dems don't care about truth, only power. To them the end justifies the means.
    I see a puppet with kool-aid stained lips.
    I see acuntinquestion with Putin's giz in his mouth.
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Q: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?
    A: Their lips are moving.

    The dems throw up hoax after hoax after hoax about Trump. The press is even worse. Dems don't care about truth, only power. To them the end justifies the means.
    I see a puppet with kool-aid stained lips.
    I see acuntinquestion with Putin's giz in his mouth.

    giz is short for gizzards ?

    Lol. The shit you come up with in your head is funny... not sure how Russians have manipulated me or what position I take that helps them. It isn't about me though, it is about what Mickey Crimm WANTS to believe.

    You're a strange one. You're like some sort of Rainman but instead of memorizing things, you're good at gambling machines.
    Grandpa Newell is the GOAT

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    John Bolton's recent book was not to kind to the President. Bolton was highly critical of him. But Bolton was by the President's side the entire time they were in France. He says that if the President would have said anything dissing the troops he would have dedicated an entire chapter to it in his book. But he said it is patently untrue that the President dissed the troops.
    What I heard Bolton say was that he was present for a conversation about going to the cemetery and didn't hear what was alleged. He did say he would have included it in his book had he heard it. He also said that Trump may have said these things later. I'm confident that the claim that Bolton was by Trump's side the whole time he was in France to be completely fabricated and nonsensical. Does anyone here actually believe this?

    By now I believe that Trump and his administration will say anything to get through a news cycle. Bolton has been critical of Trump. If Bolton had heard what is reported, he probably would have included it in his book. That he didn't hear it, makes me wonder if this part of the Atlantic story is true. Bolton's response does not disprove it, but does call it into question. It would be a much stronger pushback, if Bolton was saying that it couldn't have happened because he was involved in all the relevant conversations during that trip.

    As a counterpoint, Trump claimed that he never claimed he called McCain a loser. He has. Trump also claimed that he was upset that he couldn't make the trip and called home to his wife to talk about it. Melania was with him in France. Lying to dispute a story Trump is labeling as lies is not a persuasive strategy with me.

    I'm also wondering why Trump is not calling on John Kelly to tell what he knows about this. If the Atlantic story is not true, Kelly is in a position to punch enough holes in it to make it sink.

  4. #64
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
    There's much more coming. It was humorous watching The View this morning as Stephanie, author of "Melania and me", told her story. Every few minutes the Trump legal team sent legal notices basically saying she was a troubled woman, that they had to read on the air. As the old Chinese saying goes, "Pretty soon bus come."

  6. #66
    Sling, if you're really aligning yourself with a weirdo creep like red, you are truly a lost soul. Now I can see why you have such a hard time deciphering simple common sense. And if you're the same as redietz with no money invested in the stock market and you have no job, then I can see why you make such obscure comments about Trump and hope he loses the election.

    And for your "moral authority" bloviations, no one has ever done more for minorities than this president. You're so confusingly caught up in the CNN interpretations of Trump's rallies, tweets and press conferences that you've corrupted your ability to figure out how decent the man really is.

    Please wise up.

  7. #67
    LOL. Now, Rob, people in glasshouses shouldn't throw...oh, wait, you have no house. Scratch that, then. My bad.

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Sling, if you're really aligning yourself with a weirdo creep like red, you are truly a lost soul. Now I can see why you have such a hard time deciphering simple common sense. And if you're the same as redietz with no money invested in the stock market and you have no job, then I can see why you make such obscure comments about Trump and hope he loses the election.

    And for your "moral authority" bloviations, no one has ever done more for minorities than this president. You're so confusingly caught up in the CNN interpretations of Trump's rallies, tweets and press conferences that you've corrupted your ability to figure out how decent the man really is.

    Please wise up.
    Guess I'm a lost cause. Even funnier was Sarah Huckabee's interview the day before. I swear they sit down a new press secretary and teach them to answer with " alternative facts" instead of directly answering the question. I actually couldn't tell if I was listening to Kayleigh McEnany, Kelly Conway, or if that was really Sarah Huckabee! And the same follow through- talk long and fast until it gets so bad SOMEONE has to say stop, please.

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
    If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
    If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.
    Actually, mickey, fuck yes. I just got off the phone with the former CFO of a pharmaceutical firm. He called to ask, given my journalism background, what I thought of Woodward sitting on the tapes this long. My answer was that I could not in good conscience, in Woodward's shoes, sat on them longer than the March tapes. I would have felt both a national obligation and an obligation in terms of saving lives to have gone full blown public at that time.

    In fact, to take it a step further, I think Bernstein knew about the tapes. That's why he was so damning of Trump in tone during his interviews without adding any additional insider information. So I think to the degree that Bernstein knew what was on the tapes, he also had an obligation to make them public even though they were Woodward's property.

    Sometimes, mickey, you simply don't know what you're talking about. That's increasingly the case. And before spouting off, if you want the email of the former CFO to discuss my conversation with him today, PM me and I will send it along. But agree to email him and report the conversation here.

  11. #71
    Woodward is just as guilty as the rest. The only viable excuse was the author of "Melania and Me" who claims to have hit the record button after she was used, sold out, and tossed as a loser.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
    If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.
    There has to be some way you could measure what it'd take from a man to psychology separate from his master instead of just absolute denial. Like where is that line of decency in a person?

    Clue bus coming down the road here.

    Bob Woodward is not the President.
    Grandpa Newell is the GOAT

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
    If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.
    Actually, mickey, fuck yes. I just got off the phone with the former CFO of a pharmaceutical firm. He called to ask, given my journalism background, what I thought of Woodward sitting on the tapes this long. My answer was that I could not in good conscience, in Woodward's shoes, sat on them longer than the March tapes. I would have felt both a national obligation and an obligation in terms of saving lives to have gone full blown public at that time.

    In fact, to take it a step further, I think Bernstein knew about the tapes. That's why he was so damning of Trump in tone during his interviews without adding any additional insider information. So I think to the degree that Bernstein knew what was on the tapes, he also had an obligation to make them public even though they were Woodward's property.

    Sometimes, mickey, you simply don't know what you're talking about. That's increasingly the case. And before spouting off, if you want the email of the former CFO to discuss my conversation with him today, PM me and I will send it along. But agree to email him and report the conversation here.
    Fuck the dumb ass CFO and fuck your dumb ass. You just keep fucking doing it don't you, puke. Nothing but fake fucking fake fucking fake fucking moral outrage from you. Do you ever listen to your punk ass dropping fucking names all the time. You know this person and you know that person and because of it you know a hell of a lot. No, fuck you, YOU DON'T!!! You're a village fucking idiot.

    You don't remember Dems spouting off about "go on out and play, everybody." You don't remember Fauci saying "Go on, go to the Super Bowl. Have a blast." THAT GOT THOUSANDS KILLED!! No, you dont remember any of that shit. YOU JUST WANT TO PUT IT ALL ON TRUMP BECAUSE YOU ARE A FASCIST SOCIALIST PIG.

    When Fauci played it down Trump played it down. When Fauci played it up Trump played it up. What the fuck else was he supposed to do? He's not a fucking scientist. But your fascist socialist pig ass puts the whole thing on Trump. You are a straight up bag of shit THAT HAS NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

    The Woodward story is just a bunch of hot air about nothing. It's a fucking nothingburger.

    Now FUCK OFF AND DIE, BITCH
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    More dissonance:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html

    As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
    If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.
    There has to be some way you could measure what it'd take from a man to psychology separate from his master instead of just absolute denial. Like where is that line of decency in a person?

    Clue bus coming down the road here.

    Bob Woodward is not the President.
    Smoke some more dope, loser. And ask you mommy to wipe your ass.
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.
    There has to be some way you could measure what it'd take from a man to psychology separate from his master instead of just absolute denial. Like where is that line of decency in a person?

    Clue bus coming down the road here.

    Bob Woodward is not the President.
    Smoke some more dope, loser. And ask you mommy to wipe your ass.
    This is primo good shit right here. I love it. You ever smoke pot Mickey? Or were you too scared?

    edit - I'll be honest - I just smoked a good deal of THC and thats why the mommy wiping my ass thing had me in stitches. It is good to laugh.
    Grandpa Newell is the GOAT

  16. #76
    Redietz is a straight up fucking coward. Pelosi and the Dems played down virus. Fauci played down the virus.Trump played down the virus. Not one peep out of redietz about Fauci and the Dems. It's all Trumps fault. Fuck you, redietz. You're a goddam coward.
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Redietz is a straight up fucking coward. Pelosi and the Dems played down virus. Fauci played down the virus.Trump played down the virus. Not one peep out of redietz about Fauci and the Dems. It's all Trumps fault. Fuck you, redietz. You're a goddam coward.
    Even if we agree Fauci played it down, you understand there is a huge difference in magnitude?

    Fauci is not some Democrat stooge BTW. You need to get out of the house more so to speak. Read some new news sources. Pull it together.
    Grandpa Newell is the GOAT

  18. #78
    So why did Trump never fire Fauci? Is that something he can't actually do? Or did he know it'd just be that bad of a look. Thats one thing I never understood. Fauci has been a thorn in the side of the way the President has wanted to run things.

    Trump wanted to run this shit proper. No tests. No records. Let is just plow through everyone at once without masks. Running from within that context it seems kinda obvious Fauci is going to have to navigate politics. I wouldn't assume Fauci got to speak 100% what he wanted to say. Trump did though.
    Grandpa Newell is the GOAT

  19. #79
    I tuned into the NFL's first game 15 minutes ago and it's been nothing but a bunch of black shit. Instead of appeasing these thugs, how about somebody ask them why so many black punks kill other black punks---every day!? Not that we disapprove.....

    I really hope Rodgers or Brady or Brees wins the MVP and Super Bowl this year. I'm sick and tired of all the praise being bestowed on black QB's when NONE of them will ever have a career like the big three.

  20. #80
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I tuned into the NFL's first game 15 minutes ago and it's been nothing but a bunch of black shit. Instead of appeasing these thugs, how about somebody ask them why so many black punks kill other black punks---every day!? Not that we disapprove.....

    I really hope Rodgers or Brady or Brees wins the MVP and Super Bowl this year. I'm sick and tired of all the praise being bestowed on black QB's when NONE of them will ever have a career like the big three.
    I felt cheated on the Saint's call that kept them outta the Super Bowl. The game EVERYONE wanted- Brees/Brady! After that, my interest left. That would have been THE game of Super Bowl history-TWO great quarterbacks, two great coaches, two great franchises.

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