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  1. #61
    Folks, let's shithole and others like him keep thinking that. The is no benefit trying to convince them otherwise.

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Now there’s the forum type of AP. For example, if what MickeyCrimm says is true which appears to be believable and what I like to call the 2-bit AP type. He also posted many examples of what he does. He works hard for his winnings. It requires a special type of personality. Being homeless, traveling the country side hitching onto trains, defending yourself against other homeless hobo’s, living in the woods. You could understand why he views his 2-bit plays.....
    LOL at how stupid you are. Your lack of reading comprehension is stunning. I was out of the lifestyle of riding trains and living out of a sleeping bag three days after picking up on my first machine AP play. I never went back to that lifestyle. With the AP I worked myself up to where I was making over 100K per year. And because of my former lifestyle I had very frugal spending habits. Which means I have a pretty good nest egg in my old age.

    Oh, and at least I was at least a 2-bit advantage player. You can't make the claim of ever winning anything. You were/are a big time loser that the casinos love to see coming. You might as well tattoo a big S on your forehead. And it don't stand for Superman. It stands for.....SUCKER!!!!
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #63
    Let me just correct Blackhole when it comes to a play being burned out.

    True but unless is huge (Ivey Baccarat) then the burnout is usually localized.

    Multi-carding for example suddenly may be discovered and cracked down at casino A. So you just move onto casino B. And from there casino C, etc.

    A few years go by and sometimes you can even return to the old burned out casino. Unlike the AP, the average casino employee isn't concentrating on what some team did four years earlier. They may vaguely remember the details.

    Even better, casinos have employee churning. They leave, new ones are hired.

    So play burnout is an immediate issue but not necessarily long-term

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Folks, let's shithole and others like him keep thinking that. The is no benefit trying to convince them otherwise.
    LOL Coming from one of the top bullshitters on this site who endlessly keeps trying to convince us of otherwise. You talk out of your ass so much I usually don't ever respond to your nonsense. Hows that hole-carding or whatever you call your specialty working out for you lately? Why do you have the need to constantly come here and convince everyone of otherwise? Why not just shut the fuck up and count your money?

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    LOL at how stupid you are. Your lack of reading comprehension is stunning. I was out of the lifestyle of riding trains and living out of a sleeping bag three days after picking up on my first machine AP play. I never went back to that lifestyle. With the AP I worked myself up to where I was making over 100K per year. And because of my former lifestyle I had very frugal spending habits. Which means I have a pretty good nest egg in my old age.
    And I gave you all the credit in the world for it.

    Just because I'm willing and able to pay thousands for 5 star treatments and 5 star entertainment doesn't make me stupid. I guess whales that spend millions on the same are also stupid. (but they own oilfields)

    Your comments are just a sign of envy.
    Last edited by blackhole; 09-08-2020 at 07:16 AM.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post

    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?
    I'd get past Freud and then come back to the subject.
    The detail from years ago he writes about and how Axel builds up and builds up perplexes me.

    There has to be a deeper meaning to it with a reason for such writing. I was giving him a pathway to open up and express himself.
    So anyway the question still stands to Axel and Axel only.

    And I'm not trolling if anything the people that have highjacked my thread here are trolling me by repetitively posting all of their non-related nonsense, post after post after post. That is trolling! Now the tables are turned.

    They should get off of my thread and go on to their own threads.

    Possibly a complaint is in order for trolling??

    So far I haven't went running and whined to the boss like others apparently have.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Axel I didn't realize so much money around the casinos with the discarded tickets.

    As numerous people have said you pick up tickets that are left behind. Now I understand.

    I love all of you guys and of course the occasional transvestite, transsexual or alien implemented within the forum audience

    https://vitalvegas.com/caesars-enter...ng-change/amp/
    You're obviously a sock puppet troll. And Boz's right, you don't deserve a comment. However, for the benefit of others out there who might be interested in or dabbling in Advantage Play I'll make a comment. Interesting enough, the subject came up the other day with a group of us because of the change shortage there seems to be a lot more abandoned tickets floating around the casino I guess that's because the small change tickets don't seem to work in the kiosk.


    I said that I thought that might actually be illegal to take tickets in Nevada but I really don't know the law regarding that because it's not something that I do. And the people that know me, know I hate going out of my way to cash in tickets, and I'm not talking about small change either. Sometimes when I'm eager to leave I just fold them up and put them in my wallet or a pocket figuring out cash them in another time oftentimes I just pawn them off to somebody else the cash in for me for a small fee.

    Anyways, I don't suggest anyone interested in Advantage play are in the advantage play business touch abandoned tickets it's not worth the risk of getting 86'ed over something so stupid.

    A few years back we were on a big play out of state where we encountered a competing AP team. What I mean by competing is the fact that there were only a couple really good machines for this particular play available also you know there's a limited amount of money the casino will give away before they change the rules.

    On this particular play you would reach your goal and you yourself would be done for the day, so we would have to rotate in and out players on a couple of machines.
    I want to sit down on one of the machines and lo and behold there was a large amount of money on there. I can't remember exactly how much, but I'm pretty sure it was around or over $1,000. I wasn't 100% sure who had this been on that particular machine, but I assumed it had to be one of the competing team members who hit the jackpot and forgot about the credits. I cashed the ticket out and put it on the side hoping a person would remember and come back for it but no one did. So I approached who I thought was running that particular team and ask if had they been playing it, he said, "yes", and explain that he had just had a bigger jackpot. I proceeded to give him the ticket and said, "I think this is yours". The guy was highly appreciative and sure enough it was just as I expected as he went to explain that he was so excited he hit the jackpot that he didn't even realize he had money still left on the machine after he got his hand pay.

    If you're an advantage player and you come up on a machine you want to play that has money on it you should probably just cash it out and put it on top of the machine.
    At the Riverside in Laughlin I found a play on a $1 Diamond Mine. The bill accepter wouldn't work so I stuck a $10 bill in the machine beside it intending to hit the cashout button and use the tokes to play the Diamond Mine. The machine racked up 200 credits. They had put a nickel bill accepter in a dollar machine.

    In that spot a lot of guys would have emptied the hopper twice then walked to avoid the three fill check. But the way to make a lot of money is play the machine and take the handpays. In those days $400 jackpots and higher were handpays at Riverside. It was a 5X game so carried the right variance.

    I can't remember if it was a two-coin or three-coin machine but if it was two-coin them I would be paying 10 cents per $2 spin on a game with about a 90% return. In other words, I'm going to crush it.

    I thought about the long term implications of the play. Did I really want to take a chance on losing the Riverside just to make a quick score? I decided I didn't and called over a slot attendent.

    When slot operations got out there I pointed the problem out and asked them to give me my $10 back. They said it would have taken them forever to figure out the problem, that I was an honest guy, and gladly refunded my $10.

    I was just protecting my own ass.
    I actually found a few of these back in the day, usually on slots. Normally it was a dollar machine set up as if it was quarters. $100 gave you four hundred. I know some guys found a $5 full pay Deuces that was set up as if it was dollars.

    The most interesting one I found was on Bonus Run (Linked) so you could use the machine to advance the bonus meter on the other machines and snap it off there (a huge Advantage when the advanced meter was only one away sense you got $125 and that took very few spins to advance) never really bringing any fills or attention to the affected machine. There wasn't too many hand pay combination on that particular machine. It was good for a few days,unfortunately, not too long after, since it was Bonus Run it attracted Hustler's. There was this one really nasty three team Asian group we continually had problems with(it even got physical at one time) that demanded time on the machine, or they wanted us to run the meter up for them and sit out once we did so. They wanted us to do that for an entire shift or they would turn it in. Of course, we told him to F off. Because of that we were basically forced to take fills. Of course, we knew their fill check rules. For those who don't know, a fill check rule was x amount of Hopper fills per shift(usually 3) would trigger the slot attendant doing the fill to hit a test button that would spit out 10 coins and the attendant would proceed to count them to make sure it was accurate.
    Obviously that wouldn't detect a bill validator problem, however, after so many fill checks they would call in a slot tech to shut down and check the machine. We caught wind that they actually eventually did turn it in and it didn't last that long. Had it not been for those nasty Asians the casino would have lost a significant amount on the other machines. Not sure exactly what it was worth per day, but I'm assuming somewhere around the $7,000 range.

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    You're obviously a sock puppet troll. And Boz's right, you don't deserve a comment. However, for the benefit of others out there who might be interested in or dabbling in Advantage Play I'll make a comment. Interesting enough, the subject came up the other day with a group of us because of the change shortage there seems to be a lot more abandoned tickets floating around the casino I guess that's because the small change tickets don't seem to work in the kiosk.


    I said that I thought that might actually be illegal to take tickets in Nevada but I really don't know the law regarding that because it's not something that I do. And the people that know me, know I hate going out of my way to cash in tickets, and I'm not talking about small change either. Sometimes when I'm eager to leave I just fold them up and put them in my wallet or a pocket figuring out cash them in another time oftentimes I just pawn them off to somebody else the cash in for me for a small fee.

    Anyways, I don't suggest anyone interested in Advantage play are in the advantage play business touch abandoned tickets it's not worth the risk of getting 86'ed over something so stupid.

    A few years back we were on a big play out of state where we encountered a competing AP team. What I mean by competing is the fact that there were only a couple really good machines for this particular play available also you know there's a limited amount of money the casino will give away before they change the rules.

    On this particular play you would reach your goal and you yourself would be done for the day, so we would have to rotate in and out players on a couple of machines.
    I want to sit down on one of the machines and lo and behold there was a large amount of money on there. I can't remember exactly how much, but I'm pretty sure it was around or over $1,000. I wasn't 100% sure who had this been on that particular machine, but I assumed it had to be one of the competing team members who hit the jackpot and forgot about the credits. I cashed the ticket out and put it on the side hoping a person would remember and come back for it but no one did. So I approached who I thought was running that particular team and ask if had they been playing it, he said, "yes", and explain that he had just had a bigger jackpot. I proceeded to give him the ticket and said, "I think this is yours". The guy was highly appreciative and sure enough it was just as I expected as he went to explain that he was so excited he hit the jackpot that he didn't even realize he had money still left on the machine after he got his hand pay.

    If you're an advantage player and you come up on a machine you want to play that has money on it you should probably just cash it out and put it on top of the machine.
    At the Riverside in Laughlin I found a play on a $1 Diamond Mine. The bill accepter wouldn't work so I stuck a $10 bill in the machine beside it intending to hit the cashout button and use the tokes to play the Diamond Mine. The machine racked up 200 credits. They had put a nickel bill accepter in a dollar machine.

    In that spot a lot of guys would have emptied the hopper twice then walked to avoid the three fill check. But the way to make a lot of money is play the machine and take the handpays. In those days $400 jackpots and higher were handpays at Riverside. It was a 5X game so carried the right variance.

    I can't remember if it was a two-coin or three-coin machine but if it was two-coin them I would be paying 10 cents per $2 spin on a game with about a 90% return. In other words, I'm going to crush it.

    I thought about the long term implications of the play. Did I really want to take a chance on losing the Riverside just to make a quick score? I decided I didn't and called over a slot attendent.

    When slot operations got out there I pointed the problem out and asked them to give me my $10 back. They said it would have taken them forever to figure out the problem, that I was an honest guy, and gladly refunded my $10.

    I was just protecting my own ass.
    I actually found a few of these back in the day, usually on slots. Normally it was a dollar machine set up as if it was quarters. $100 gave you four hundred. I know some guys found a $5 full pay Deuces that was set up as if it was dollars.

    The most interesting one I found was on Bonus Run (Linked) so you could use the machine to advance the bonus meter on the other machines and snap it off there (a huge Advantage when the advanced meter was only one away sense you got $125 and that took very few spins to advance) never really bringing any fills or attention to the affected machine. There wasn't too many hand pay combination on that particular machine. It was good for a few days,unfortunately, not too long after, since it was Bonus Run it attracted Hustler's. There was this one really nasty three team Asian group we continually had problems with(it even got physical at one time) that demanded time on the machine, or they wanted us to run the meter up for them and sit out once we did so. They wanted us to do that for an entire shift or they would turn it in. Of course, we told him to F off. Because of that we were basically forced to take fills. Of course, we knew their fill check rules. For those who don't know, a fill check rule was x amount of Hopper fills per shift(usually 3) would trigger the slot attendant doing the fill to hit a test button that would spit out 10 coins and the attendant would proceed to count them to make sure it was accurate.
    Obviously that wouldn't detect a bill validator problem, however, after so many fill checks they would call in a slot tech to shut down and check the machine. We caught wind that they actually eventually did turn it in and it didn't last that long. Had it not been for those nasty Asians the casino would have lost a significant amount on the other machines. Not sure exactly what it was worth per day, but I'm assuming somewhere around the $7,000 range.
    The details are astronomical Axle! Totally totally like drama and we know it's reality because you're writing it.

    And you don't have to go cry to the boss with a complaint about trolling because this is my thread and I'm not trolling you. You're posting in my thread just to let you know. That means you're coming on to my thread and I'm not trolling you and you are repetitively posting within my thread.

    At this point I have to admire the details and just wondering what the underlying principle is or you realize from this writing?

    And remember I love you guys!

  9. #69
    Guy makes thread title "A question for Axel"

    Then accuses Axel of trolling when he comes onto thread.

    You can't make this shit up

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Guy makes thread title "A question for Axel"

    Then accuses Axel of trolling when he comes onto thread.

    You can't make this shit up
    He's not addressing what the thread is he's posting stuff that s irrelevant and completely sideways to the thread, simple.

    Once again here is the question. Do you actually find some type of pleasure when you write what you write about slot machines and finding the money?

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Guy makes thread title "A question for Axel"

    Then accuses Axel of trolling when he comes onto thread.

    You can't make this shit up
    Thoughts nobody thought would come from Boz...

    I love how Dan runs his forum but this guy is making me question myself. We always had a few guys who never added anything useful or civil, but this guy takes the cake.

    While I don’t agree with much at WoV, he would be on his 5th or 6th suspension by now.

    He adds nothing and isn’t MD, but he is someone we all have seen before, just trying his nonsense under a different name and style. It will come out eventually. Even as we all mostly ignore him.

  12. #72
    Fresh as The Holy Virgin Mary.

  13. #73
    "Is poor little AxelWolf becoming unglued? Is he going off the deep end mentally? Are those abandoned TITOs for under a dollar not adding up like they once were?" WTF? LOL.

  14. #74
    AP or Hustler?

    I call the description a Hustler.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    AP or Hustler?

    I call the description a Hustler.
    Back in the nineties many AP's called each other hustlers.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    AP or Hustler?

    I call the description a Hustler.
    Back in the nineties many AP's called each other hustlers.
    I see, HUSTLERS. OKAY!


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