Originally Posted by
blackhole
He even found a thousand dollars in credits on a machine and hunted down the player who left it there. I don’t think this bullshit artist even realizes anymore how ridiculous and the level of stupidity he projects with his posts.
The same group of people here that buy into all of this AxelAss bullshit like it’s scripture or carved in stone simply because he posted it...l
(Quote clipped, relevance)
This is the sort of thing that you have to understand the reasoning, and I think MickeyCrimm did a good job by giving another example.
1.) It's not worth getting tossed from the casino. Even if, for one reason or another, you're not inclined to believe Axelwolf's story, (don't know why you wouldn't) the conditions for giving the ticket back make total sense. He's on a promotional-type play that one would assume has good value, he knows who left the ticket and you don't want to lose the play or the casino.
2.) This is especially true if you KNOW (or strongly believe you know) who the ticket belongs to: It's stealing. Some people are not inclined to flatly steal money/credits/ticket. It's still stealing if you don't know who it belongs to, just not necessarily in the legal sense, depending on the state.
3.) If he did take it and the other person realized what happened and came over for it, even if Axel would intend to give it back without an argument, the guy might still get pretty hot. That could lead to a heated verbal altercation. You don't want to be having heated verbal altercations in a casino if you're an AP, or if you're anyone else for that matter...easiest thing for security to do is just toss everyone when that happens.
It's important to remember that the casino wants to project a certain environment and these types of altercations take away from that environment. 99%+ of people in the casino have an expectation of losing money, so if you have an expectation of winning, don't mess with the folks who are giving money to the casino or bother them in any way.
4.) It's really not worth getting 86'ed over. Some casinos won't just arbitrarily throw out AP's, especially those AP's who are playing by the rules, unless the AP gives them an excuse to do so. Jacking a 1k ticket would certainly provide such an excuse. If I saw a 1k ticket in any casino, but especially a place I go regularly, no way I touch it unless it is to give it to the owner of the ticket, to security or place on top of the machine. I'd probably go with giving it to security if I wasn't 100% sure of the owner (for a ticket of that amount). That's not exclusively out of any great moral regard; it's mainly because that casino should be worth more than $1,000 to me lifetime, which makes getting kicked out -EV. I'm not saying moral considerations don't exist, but even from a primarily AP perspective, you don't want to do it.
5.) There are states where this would be a straight up crime. Pennsylvania and Colorado are two such states. Even in the states where you could take an abandoned ticket, (legally) knowing who the rightful owner of the ticket is (if they can prove you knew) might make a difference as to the legality.
As far as selling tickets at a discount to someone going to a particular casino anyway, that's not ridiculously uncommon. Sometimes you stick a ticket in your pocket or wallet and forget about it. I almost never do, but that's mostly because I rarely have more than one ticket on me at a time. Imagine I'm working with an AP at a casino three hours away and he's got a ticket for a casino near where I'm going back to (that I go to regularly) for $80.xx. He might say something like, "Give me sixty bucks for it and we'll call it good. You'll obviously be there at some point."
Believe what you like, but that's not an uncommon transaction. I think I've forgotten to cash a ticket once, lifetime, but some people seem to make a habit of it.