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  1. #41
    How does that answer the man's question? At least you didn't interject a homily.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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  2. #42
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    How does that answer the man's question? At least you didn't interject a homily.
    I understand some of their responses. I do not play slot machines but when I play at the casinos I'm not a pro player and I do work for a major Casino chain. Believe me I know the rules and regulations regarding the attempted redemption slot machine tickets not belonging to a patron. That's not what I'm addressing here.

    I'm just really looking to get an answer from Axelwolf because I interpret with the great detail and the great heromanship he is stressing, he must be doing it for sexual purposes.

    To myself there would be no other reason for anyone to detail out what he has. And I'm really looking at it from an outsider's point of view in all sincerity.
    Last edited by Wynnpleasure775; 09-07-2020 at 09:50 AM.

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    I'm just really looking to get an answer from Axelwolf because I interpret with the great detail and the great heromanship he is stressing, he must be doing it for sexual purposes.
    This kind of 'reasoning' is your problem not his.

    Here. Let's turn the tables on you to illustrate your flawed attack.

    'Whenever someone assigns "sexual purposes" to unremarkable internet postings it always indicates they have some deep seated sexual perversion. Are you a pedophile or a rapist?' Now Answer My Question.

    See how easy that was?

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    I'm just really looking to get an answer from Axelwolf because I interpret with the great detail and the great heromanship he is stressing, he must be doing it for sexual purposes.
    This kind of 'reasoning' is your problem not his.

    Here. Let's turn the tables on you to illustrate your flawed attack.

    'Whenever someone assigns "sexual purposes" to unremarkable internet postings it always indicates they have some deep seated sexual perversion. Are you a pedophile or a rapist?' Now Answer My Question.

    See how easy that was?
    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    I'm just really looking to get an answer from Axelwolf because I interpret with the great detail and the great heromanship he is stressing, he must be doing it for sexual purposes.
    This kind of 'reasoning' is your problem not his.

    Here. Let's turn the tables on you to illustrate your flawed attack.

    'Whenever someone assigns "sexual purposes" to unremarkable internet postings it always indicates they have some deep seated sexual perversion. Are you a pedophile or a rapist?' Now Answer My Question.

    See how easy that was?
    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?
    Because it's a forum and we can talk about what we want to?

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    I'm just really looking to get an answer from Axelwolf because I interpret with the great detail and the great heromanship he is stressing, he must be doing it for sexual purposes.
    This kind of 'reasoning' is your problem not his.

    Here. Let's turn the tables on you to illustrate your flawed attack.

    'Whenever someone assigns "sexual purposes" to unremarkable internet postings it always indicates they have some deep seated sexual perversion. Are you a pedophile or a rapist?' Now Answer My Question.

    See how easy that was?
    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?

    Cool. What psych class are you taking? Many of my compadres are social sciences professors and one is a neuroscience guy in the med school here. If you haven't already, you might want to read anthropologist Natasha Dow Schull's "Addiction by Design." It's the best gambling/social science book I have ever read. It'll get you up to date on the last 15 years or so of research and do it in an entertaining way. It spends a lot of time looking at the industry itself and in a fairly neutral way.

    Also, and I mention this because part of this thread is devoted to the legitimacy of APs and all that. I was disgusted today as one offshore refused to allow me to deposit. I knew when I was put on hold a long time, it was a bad thing. It's one of the places I had SF to win the NFC last year, and they decided I am persona non grata. Well, it's either that or they figured out who my girlfriend is, and they banned her three years ago. For my ego's sake, I'll say it was the SF wager.

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    This kind of 'reasoning' is your problem not his.

    Here. Let's turn the tables on you to illustrate your flawed attack.

    'Whenever someone assigns "sexual purposes" to unremarkable internet postings it always indicates they have some deep seated sexual perversion. Are you a pedophile or a rapist?' Now Answer My Question.

    See how easy that was?
    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?
    Because it's a forum and we can talk about what we want to?
    Dark Oz, I owe you an apology. If this idiot works for any casino in America, I was wrong to question any claim you ever made about any casino being clueless.

    Unless of course there is a casino somewhere with peep booths in it and they have a boy that cleans the booths. I guess that would be considered “being in the casino industry”. And that is what he considers being on the floor.

  8. #48
    ATTENTION BOZ!

    Right now you are sitting at Avoid at Times on the list of lists, but another outbreak or two I'm going to have you moved from Avoid at Times to Avoid. It's up to you. That's your destiny on the Forum.

    I love you guys even if you talk about peep shows and cleaning up sperm and doing it in the casino, I kind of understand but anyways I love you guys!

  9. #49
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Are you referring to myself or are you referring to Axelwolf?
    Wolf

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post

    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?
    Because it's a forum and we can talk about what we want to?
    Dark Oz, I owe you an apology. If this idiot works for any casino in America, I was wrong to question any claim you ever made about any casino being clueless.

    Unless of course there is a casino somewhere with peep booths in it and they have a boy that cleans the booths. I guess that would be considered “being in the casino industry”. And that is what he considers being on the floor.
    Lol accepted

    There are some sharp ones in gaming but I find them to be the exception not the rule

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Are you referring to myself or are you referring to Axelwolf?
    Wolf
    Thank you and I think your answer was spot-on and extremely factual.

    I love you man!

  12. #52
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    This kind of 'reasoning' is your problem not his.

    Here. Let's turn the tables on you to illustrate your flawed attack.

    'Whenever someone assigns "sexual purposes" to unremarkable internet postings it always indicates they have some deep seated sexual perversion. Are you a pedophile or a rapist?' Now Answer My Question.

    See how easy that was?
    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?

    Cool. What psych class are you taking? Many of my compadres are social sciences professors and one is a neuroscience guy in the med school here. If you haven't already, you might want to read anthropologist Natasha Dow Schull's "Addiction by Design." It's the best gambling/social science book I have ever read. It'll get you up to date on the last 15 years or so of research and do it in an entertaining way. It spends a lot of time looking at the industry itself and in a fairly neutral way.

    Also, and I mention this because part of this thread is devoted to the legitimacy of APs and all that. I was disgusted today as one offshore refused to allow me to deposit. I knew when I was put on hold a long time, it was a bad thing. It's one of the places I had SF to win the NFC last year, and they decided I am persona non grata. Well, it's either that or they figured out who my girlfriend is, and they banned her three years ago. For my ego's sake, I'll say it was the SF wager.
    What a weird moron. If you could pick any team to win it would be in the gay naked soccer league.

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post

    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?

    Cool. What psych class are you taking? Many of my compadres are social sciences professors and one is a neuroscience guy in the med school here. If you haven't already, you might want to read anthropologist Natasha Dow Schull's "Addiction by Design." It's the best gambling/social science book I have ever read. It'll get you up to date on the last 15 years or so of research and do it in an entertaining way. It spends a lot of time looking at the industry itself and in a fairly neutral way.

    Also, and I mention this because part of this thread is devoted to the legitimacy of APs and all that. I was disgusted today as one offshore refused to allow me to deposit. I knew when I was put on hold a long time, it was a bad thing. It's one of the places I had SF to win the NFC last year, and they decided I am persona non grata. Well, it's either that or they figured out who my girlfriend is, and they banned her three years ago. For my ego's sake, I'll say it was the SF wager.
    What a weird moron. If you could pick any team to win it would be in the gay naked soccer league.
    Why all the gayness pouring out of you guys?

    I see you just need to divulge your real perversions?

    This question was for Axle but now I see the great need to express yourselves about the gay perversions that are evidently pent up within yourselves.

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Thanks for all that information Mission. Can you pm me a copy of the AP etiquette book?

    How about AxelAss takes that $1,00.00 ticket and puts it in his pocket. If anyone comes up to him while he’s playing the machine, he could hand it off or say I didn’t want to lose the machine and was going to bring it to security when done.

    Like he said in his bullshit post he guessed whose it was but had to seek out the team leader to be certain. Let’s say he didn’t seek him out right away and forgot about it. Now a week later lo and behold he finds the ticket at home. Then let’s say he breaks the code of AP honor and then offers a friend going to that casino later $200.00 to cash it for him.

    According to a few active AP’s on these boards, they are willing to admit the hustling back-stabbing life full time AP’s live. Even you Mission and all other AP’s are just everyday hustlers. That’s okay with me, to each his own. Just stop trying to convince others of how righteous you are when everyone knows better. Gambling’s past and present reputation says otherwise.

    I also think the forum hustlers main reason to be on these forums is to get what you can from suckers looking for the fast bucks through the pm services.

    Personally, I think other than well published big-time advantage plays exposed in the past, most of forum AP’s are bullshitting, hustling, con artists.
    I myself left a sizable ticket in the machine a few years back. Within minutes it had been jacked. Got ahold of security, they put a freeze on that voucher and caught the guy at the cashier when it didn't work at the redemption machine.

    It's not just etiquette but common sense. No AP is gonna jack a sizable ticket unless he is an idiot just begging to be 86'd.

    And the idea he would jack a ticket and try to cash it a week later is (for the reasons given above) totally absurd. Might as well just extend the arms and ask for the cuffs in advance

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Axel I didn't realize so much money around the casinos with the discarded tickets.

    As numerous people have said you pick up tickets that are left behind. Now I understand.

    I love all of you guys and of course the occasional transvestite, transsexual or alien implemented within the forum audience

    https://vitalvegas.com/caesars-enter...ng-change/amp/
    You're obviously a sock puppet troll. And Boz's right, you don't deserve a comment. However, for the benefit of others out there who might be interested in or dabbling in Advantage Play I'll make a comment. Interesting enough, the subject came up the other day with a group of us because of the change shortage there seems to be a lot more abandoned tickets floating around the casino I guess that's because the small change tickets don't seem to work in the kiosk.


    I said that I thought that might actually be illegal to take tickets in Nevada but I really don't know the law regarding that because it's not something that I do. And the people that know me, know I hate going out of my way to cash in tickets, and I'm not talking about small change either. Sometimes when I'm eager to leave I just fold them up and put them in my wallet or a pocket figuring out cash them in another time oftentimes I just pawn them off to somebody else the cash in for me for a small fee.

    Anyways, I don't suggest anyone interested in Advantage play are in the advantage play business touch abandoned tickets it's not worth the risk of getting 86'ed over something so stupid.

    A few years back we were on a big play out of state where we encountered a competing AP team. What I mean by competing is the fact that there were only a couple really good machines for this particular play available also you know there's a limited amount of money the casino will give away before they change the rules.

    On this particular play you would reach your goal and you yourself would be done for the day, so we would have to rotate in and out players on a couple of machines.
    I want to sit down on one of the machines and lo and behold there was a large amount of money on there. I can't remember exactly how much, but I'm pretty sure it was around or over $1,000. I wasn't 100% sure who had this been on that particular machine, but I assumed it had to be one of the competing team members who hit the jackpot and forgot about the credits. I cashed the ticket out and put it on the side hoping a person would remember and come back for it but no one did. So I approached who I thought was running that particular team and ask if had they been playing it, he said, "yes", and explain that he had just had a bigger jackpot. I proceeded to give him the ticket and said, "I think this is yours". The guy was highly appreciative and sure enough it was just as I expected as he went to explain that he was so excited he hit the jackpot that he didn't even realize he had money still left on the machine after he got his hand pay.

    If you're an advantage player and you come up on a machine you want to play that has money on it you should probably just cash it out and put it on top of the machine.
    Axel please this is a serious question.

    You have labeled me numerous things and I'm willing to put that all aside. Just answer this because I know other people have the same question a couple of them have message me wondering the same thing about you.

    Do you actually orgasm when you write what you write about slot machines and finding the money?
    Axel can't answer my question because he's busy complaining and trying to pin doxxing and other complaints on members. ROMFAL!

  16. #56
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post
    Axel I didn't realize so much money around the casinos with the discarded tickets.

    As numerous people have said you pick up tickets that are left behind. Now I understand.

    I love all of you guys and of course the occasional transvestite, transsexual or alien implemented within the forum audience

    https://vitalvegas.com/caesars-enter...ng-change/amp/
    Shouldn’t comment because this doesn’t deserve attention. But I can guarantee there are PM’s going on between Wynn and MDawg putting him up to bashing Axel.

    Again, amazing how who someone with a net worth North of $100 Million is so concerned with someone like Axel, who he feels is nothing.

    Must be some interesting shit going on behind the golden curtain.
    Quite possibly they are both one in the same.....


    ROMAFL!!!!!

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post

    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?
    I'd get past Freud and then come back to the subject.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775 View Post

    I'll answer and it's simply no. The reason I came on the board here was because I'm taking a psychology class for my own educational purposes and some of the first things I read was Axel's. And since I'm in the casino industry I'd like to understand more about his overwhelming honesty that I rarely see on the casino floor in the situations he describes in great detail.

    PS . As far as I know about rapists and pedophiles from my study is they do not talk about their perversions, acts and crimes at all. So as far as talking about it with a deep-seated sexual perversion you're completely off. Completely.

    Now back to my question for Axle. Why would someone write in such great detail from years ago and exploit the fuck out of heromanship?
    I'd get past Freud and then come back to the subject.
    The detail from years ago he writes about and how Axel builds up and builds up perplexes me.

    There has to be a deeper meaning to it with a reason for such writing. I was giving him a pathway to open up and express himself.

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I don't know why you would assume that only the big time advantage plays would be true.

    I never said that only big-time AP plays would be true. That comment is just you trying to twist my words to fit your narrative.

    I know you’ve read many of my posts in the past (since you responded to many) and know I don’t deny AP exists. There are all different levels of AP taking place. For example, there’s the well published roulette Phil Ivey level of AP (or maybe cheating however you want to look at it) worth millions. Another would be Don Johnson taking advantage by outsmarting casinos for millions playing BJ. Of course, there are many more well publicized AP moves from the past. It’s obvious all these plays won’t be duplicated unless current billion-dollar executives have been and still are living under a rock.

    Now there’s the forum type of AP. For example, if what MickeyCrimm says is true which appears to be believable and what I like to call the 2-bit AP type. He also posted many examples of what he does. He works hard for his winnings. It requires a special type of personality. Being homeless, traveling the country side hitching onto trains, defending yourself against other homeless hobo’s, living in the woods. You could understand why he views his 2-bit AP success like winning the lottery. Yet, he truly earns it.

    I’m certain there are also more lucrative AP plays that existed. We read about many of them too. I also understand once any AP play is exposed that play is usually over. But it’s the endless claims on forums of great success. Like Kewlj pulling off his BJ claims for over 15 years with 6-digit average annual wins without ever presenting a comp card. AxelAss with claims of decades of personal and team winnings. Then wants to attack anyone on the forums of claims of ever winning including other AP claims.

    So, my comment quote “Personally, I think other than well published big-time advantage plays exposed in the past, most of forum AP’s are bullshitting, hustling, con artists.” Is exactly what I meant. If you need to come onto gambling forums and brag how clever and smart you are to beat casinos and live a lavish life is the true definition of a BULLSHIT ARTIST. This is also why I believe the PM backdoor must be an Advantage-Play in search of rookie suckers.

    The truth of AP success or any other success can’t truly be measured till all the facts of that person’s life are considered. A millionaire today, a broken-down shoe on welfare the next.

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I don't know why you would assume that only the big time advantage plays would be true.

    I never said that only big-time AP plays would be true. That comment is just you trying to twist my words to fit your narrative.

    I know you’ve read many of my posts in the past (since you responded to many) and know I don’t deny AP exists. There are all different levels of AP taking place. For example, there’s the well published roulette Phil Ivey level of AP (or maybe cheating however you want to look at it) worth millions. Another would be Don Johnson taking advantage by outsmarting casinos for millions playing BJ. Of course, there are many more well publicized AP moves from the past. It’s obvious all these plays won’t be duplicated unless current billion-dollar executives have been and still are living under a rock.

    Now there’s the forum type of AP. For example, if what MickeyCrimm says is true which appears to be believable and what I like to call the 2-bit AP type. He also posted many examples of what he does. He works hard for his winnings. It requires a special type of personality. Being homeless, traveling the country side hitching onto trains, defending yourself against other homeless hobo’s, living in the woods. You could understand why he views his 2-bit AP success like winning the lottery. Yet, he truly earns it.

    I’m certain there are also more lucrative AP plays that existed. We read about many of them too. I also understand once any AP play is exposed that play is usually over. But it’s the endless claims on forums of great success. Like Kewlj pulling off his BJ claims for over 15 years with 6-digit average annual wins without ever presenting a comp card. AxelAss with claims of decades of personal and team winnings. Then wants to attack anyone on the forums of claims of ever winning including other AP claims.

    So, my comment quote “Personally, I think other than well published big-time advantage plays exposed in the past, most of forum AP’s are bullshitting, hustling, con artists.” Is exactly what I meant. If you need to come onto gambling forums and brag how clever and smart you are to beat casinos and live a lavish life is the true definition of a BULLSHIT ARTIST. This is also why I believe the PM backdoor must be an Advantage-Play in search of rookie suckers.

    The truth of AP success or any other success can’t truly be measured till all the facts of that person’s life are considered. A millionaire today, a broken-down shoe on welfare the next.
    Take it easy, bud, maybe I just misunderstood what you were trying to say. The way your post came off, it sounded like you were saying that the only people who discuss plays of any kind only do so with some sort of nefarious motive. That could well be more of a problem with the way I read it than the way you wrote it.

    I think they pretty much always knew the Don Johnson thing was theoretically possible. There's actually a quite interesting documentary on Youtube that covers it. If you're interested and can't find it yourself, let me know, and I'll try to find it again. One of the keys to his overall plan (which was very multi-faceted) is that he'd established himself as being a mediocre Blackjack player, and according to him, actually was only slightly better than average. Once the trap had been laid, then he enlisted some help to learn the game perfectly. I found this pretty interesting because my immediate instinct was to pin all the blame on the casino execs, (and it still largely goes to them) but it turns out they were giving him the sort of perks that they'd have laid out for anyone else at that level; Johnson just knew how to exploit them.

    I understand the point you're making about the claims, but from my perspective, Axelwolf hasn't made too much in the way of specific monetary claims. I'm not saying he's never made any, just that most of his claims are pretty vague in that regard. I don't know what the motivations are for KewlJ and Darkoz, because then all you end up getting into is having people (some might say detractors) wanting you to prove it. How are you going to do that? Posting your tax returns as well as a photograph of yourself holding up your state-issued ID next to your smiling face? I guess what I'm saying is that even if I was making bank---and I'm certainly not---I don't know what would compel me to get into financial specifics.

    But, that's another thing: I imagine most AP's don't get into those kinds of specifics. There are probably innumerable people out there who read the various forums and Twitters, but you never hear a peep out of them. I even know a few AP's who either don't participate, or who have, but we haven't really seen them on the forums in years. Maybe they do the Twitter thing? I'm pretty lazy when it comes to following the gambling Twitter because I don't like the platform much for those purposes.

    I would say I can understand where you're coming from, though I'd also suggest that your perspective is exaggerated. For instance, "PM Backdoor," is something that you make sound like this great underground nefarious thing added to the forums in order to facilitate these kind of dealings. While I haven't participated at any great number of non-gambling forums, I've participated at a few, and all of them have had PM functionality.

    I also get confused by, "Rookie suckers." For example, the first time I met Axel, it was when I was going to Vegas (though we had spoken before that) and he compensated me to stop in a few casinos and do a simple task. It was all extremely upfront, go in, do x, get paid y. I would assume that it was profitable for him (at least, by expectation) to compensate me, otherwise, why else do it? Why would anyone offer anyone else money to do anything for them if the thing the person is doing is not expected to be profitable or to come with some other benefit? That just seems like common sense, to me.

    So, it basically works like anything else. Is hiring someone to a job a, "Scam?" No. And, I would assume that if you're an employer the expectation is that what you will gain from the person's efforts (labor) exceeds what you are compensating them...at least, it must, or nobody would be able to stay in business.

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