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    Here is an another blog post I posted yesterday on Druff's Poker Fraud Alert https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/en...-Card-Counting

    If you are willing to bet with your head, not over it, winning long-term at baccarat and 21 can be had via counting cards. I worked in the casino industry as a craps/21 dealer in Reno, Lake Tahoe, and Las Vegas before getting a legit job at the USPS. Using this experience and my love for math, I managed to make a spare income playing in casinos a couple of times a year for the last 30 years. I shared some of the knowledge on YouTube and Twitter to the dismay of some "recognized experts" who refuse to debate me in fear being exposed as frauds. Enjoy my video below after reading this blog post.

    Casino/Advantage Play consultant Eliot Jacobson did a a card counting analysis of the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet that was published on the Wizard of Odds site in 2011. Using a linear count simulation, Jacobson concluded a shoe depleted of more eights and/or nines than normal provided an advantage for the Dragon 7 side bet which pays 40-1. I upped the ante by tracking ten cards with my JSTAT Count (2-9=+1 and 10-K=-2) with an 8/9 side count (Quantum Strategy) and have been very successful playing in casinos. It only makes sense that a winning three card Banker 7 cannot happen with a ten card (on plus JSTAT Counts) along with the 8/9's as a third card in this non-linear count.

    As an additional bonus, I discovered the JSTAT Count with the side counting (and the lack of) of 8/9's remaining in the shoe with minus counts works very well with Player Bets in conventional mini/midi baccarat. A deck particularly poor of 8's/9's and ten value cards diminish the power of the third card rule favoring the Banker side. Because any 8 or 9 and ten card value as third card determine many times the standing Banker action where the Banker takes the most of its advantage. Moreover whenever a deck is poor of 8's, 9's, and 10's frequently, it means that more small-medium cards are available to catch for Player side as third card. Obviously the (slight) main effect favoring the Player side is due to the second issue, along with the fact the Player bets are paid 1.1 and not 0.95:1.

    Side counting the 8/9's are just as effective in blackjack as it is in the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet or reducing the Player bet house advantage at conventional baccarat. At blackjack, on plus JSTAT Counts with more 8/9's remaining than normal, our double downs will improve on 10/11 and the dealer will bust more often than average. In my opinion, the side counting of 8/9's with the JSTAT Count enhances card counting at blackjack and baccarat to the point of long-term wins.

    One day, I'll expose the frauds who push Level One counts such as the Hi-Lo Count and Zen Count among others that don't include side counting. A recent study by MIT and CalTech researchers found that side counting (Quantum Strategy or Entanglement) increases a card counter's advantage. How can "recognized blackjack experts" miss this? Many have played and lost in the long run. Thus the book writing to echo the sentiment that counting is easy money. It is not! Study hard and make sure after hundreds of thousands of hands at the kitchen table to be convinced. You might find practicing just as enjoyable as playing in casinos. I have during this pandemic.

    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    Nobody here cares.

    And you've been threatening to "expose those frauds" for years. But to the contrary, all your nonsense is what's been debunked. Give it up.

    P.S. Hole carding is NOT cheating. No matter what you say or think!

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    https://www.888casino.com/blog/bacca...ting-flim-flam

    I'm convinced that JSTAT is actually a casino shill and is purposely trying to get suckers to lose more money in casinos!

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    Oh, and please post your OP at bjtf. The responses the should be fun to read.

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    https://www.888casino.com/blog/bacca...ting-flim-flam

    I'm convinced that JSTAT is actually a casino shill and is purposely trying to get suckers to lose more money in casinos!
    Thank you for posting the link to my article about JSTAT's fraudulent claims. I thought about doing the same.

    --Eliot
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    Eliot Jacobson ~ www.advancedadvantageplay.com

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Nobody here cares.

    And you've been threatening to "expose those frauds" for years. But to the contrary, all your nonsense is what's been debunked. Give it up.

    P.S. Hole carding is NOT cheating. No matter what you say or think!
    Thanks for the troll. Debunked by whom? A computer program that can be wrong? Hole carding was not mentioned in the blog. I've won in the long-run card counting using an ace side count along with my main count at single/double deck games in the 90's. Was debunked by "blackjack geniuses" who said no gain can be had by side counting. MIT and CalTech researchers proved side counting (Quantum Strategy) provides an advantage at blackjack in recent articles. Here is a video below I made in 2009 proving the developer of the High-Low Card count Julian Braun in Ed Thorp's "Beat the Dealer" made a huge mistake with his computer study of the "breakthrough count". Not one correction has been made by "experts" of the overlay of 7/8/9's from Braun's error. Been collecting evidence of card counting fraud since retiring from the USPS in 2009 with all the free time. Some of it is on my Twitter. Will debate any "recognized expert" (you are not one!) here if they have the guts. Druff allows free expression here unlike the other blackjack forums on the Internet. I think it's almost time use major media to give the results of my 11 year study of the miscalculation of counting cards from the "Godfather of Blackjack" (Thorp) that has cost millions to misguided card counters.

    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    https://www.888casino.com/blog/bacca...ting-flim-flam

    I'm convinced that JSTAT is actually a casino shill and is purposely trying to get suckers to lose more money in casinos!
    Thank you for posting the link to my article about JSTAT's fraudulent claims. I thought about doing the same.

    --Eliot
    What claims? I was wrong then, but much better now. I can admit mistakes unlike others. You are lucky I didn't file an DMCA claim against you and 888Casino. Eliot, what do have to say about the High-Low error in Edward O. Thorp's revised "Beat the Dealer" (1966)?

    I'm an actual long-term winner at blackjack card counting and you are not. I'll match wits with you anytime.
    Last edited by JSTAT; 09-08-2020 at 12:47 PM.
    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    As you can see in this thread, he's been spouting this bullshit for over 10 years:

    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...STAT#post71747

    Post #21 from oldcoot sums JSTAT up perfectly!

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    As you can see in this thread, he's been spouting this bullshit for over 10 years:

    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...STAT#post71747

    Post #21 from oldcoot sums JSTAT up perfectly!
    Many posters on "Blackjack The Forum" have an interest in selling Norman Wattenberger's Casino Verite blackjack software. Anyone who rocks the boat with truth violates the dogma of ripping off customers. I choose to rely on real math which reveals truth rather than a business that uses unreliable computer simulation data. Hoping Norm can join in on the discussion here. Druff won't deny any of us logical discussion.
    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    It’s always special when alleged pro AP’s call out each other over whose bullshit really works. Got to love when they call each other frauds.

    You can’t make this shit up.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    It’s always special when alleged pro AP’s call out each other over whose bullshit really works. Got to love when they call each other frauds.

    You can’t make this shit up.
    I use my real name while others hide behind a moniker. Trying to convince card counters they have been fooled by the casino industrial complex (including "recognized" blackjack experts) since Thorp's 1966 revision of "Beat the Dealer" is not easy. But am up to the task. Don't care if you believe me, many reliable witnesses can back me up. Maybe some old-time casino surveillance people who might lurk here can confirm that my picture and details were in the SIN (Surveillance Information Network) system throughout Nevada casinos in the 90's.
    Last edited by JSTAT; 09-08-2020 at 02:52 PM.
    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    Where to begin???

    Ok, I'll start here. "You were a craps / 21 dealer in Reno before getting a legit job at the post office". As if to say dealers and hard working casino employees, working hard to put food on the table and pay the rent is some how "not legit".

    Anyway. Moving on. You found a tiny error in Thorp's Beat the dealer. It is completely insignificant and changes nothing about Thorp's finding and yet you have been harping about it for more than a decade. It is nothing.

    Blackjack: YOU discovered that side counts and higher level counts add value and can increase win rate? Really YOU discovered that? And who is arguing with you? Nobody. I am a huge proponent of playing a level 1 count and I won't argue that side counts and even level 2/3 counts can add value. I even side count aces when playing double deck.

    You are missing what the argument is. The argument isn't whether these things add value, but whether they are worth it. It is about diminishing returns. That extra work is adding pennies with today's games. If you are looking to add value and increase win rate there are a number of things a player can do that make a real difference....and yes tracking a second table (when the opportunity is there) to increase the number of max bet opportunities seen and played in the same time frame is ONE of those things. There are others that I won't talk about.

    Baccarat: This is not my game, so I am not going to argue the possibility of card counting baccarat. I will leave that to other more qualified. But as a complete novice in this area, I haven't read one legitimate AP or math guy that thinks there is anything to this. Only YOU.

    Any way, hope you are well and happy.

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    I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for JSTAT to announce how many baccarat tables he can count simultaneously (when conditions are just right wink wink). And who couldn't love how threatened kew feels by this thread.

    The AP's are coming out of the woodwork, each with a different wild success story and a pile of criticisms for the other guy.

    Now each of you go take a knee and say ten Hail Mary's.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for JSTAT to announce how many baccarat tables he can count simultaneously (when conditions are just right wink wink). And who couldn't love how threatened kew feels by this thread.

    The AP's are coming out of the woodwork, each with a different wild success story and a pile of criticisms for the other guy.

    Now each of you go take a knee and say ten Hail Mary's.
    I've won at most casinos card counting EZ Baccarat's Dragon 7 side bet (40-1 payout). Too many baccarat tables to count
    KJ and I go back a long way and he's nice and civil these days.
    JSTAT on casinos, poker, and blackjack/baccarat card counting. Saying what needs to said at https://twitter.com/Casino_Examiner

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    As long as JSTAT is shilling, we might as well make this the generic shill thread.

    Covid has made life pretty boring in retirement. The three things I was volunteering for are no longer available, international travel is on hold, grandkids are unavailable, etc. So, I decided to entertain myself by writing a bit more and making a few new YouTube videos. No interest in debating JSTAT, that's for sure. But, I am taking my cues from the various boards and related topics, mostly addressing incorrect thinking about various topics.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0K...CQWrjx6PAcgroA

    and my "new" website ... kind of an apheat clone, only my focus is not going to be on analyzing new advantage plays, it's going to be more from the casino-side this time:

    www.advancedadvantageplay.com

    Just getting started. Covid will be the major factor in determining how long it continues.
    Last edited by Eliot; 09-08-2020 at 05:35 PM.
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    Eliot Jacobson ~ www.advancedadvantageplay.com

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    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for JSTAT to announce how many baccarat tables he can count simultaneously (when conditions are just right wink wink). And who couldn't love how threatened kew feels by this thread.

    The AP's are coming out of the woodwork, each with a different wild success story and a pile of criticisms for the other guy.

    Now each of you go take a knee and say ten Hail Mary's.
    I've won at most casinos card counting EZ Baccarat's Dragon 7 side bet (40-1 payout). Too many baccarat tables to count
    KJ and I go back a long way and he's nice and civil these days.
    What can you prove and how can you prove it? Or are you just another "call me snake" like kew....where he "escapes from New York" every single time the subject arises?

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    Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    As long as JSTAT is shilling, we might as well make this the generic shill thread.

    Covid has made life pretty boring in retirement. The three things I was volunteering for are no longer available, international travel is on hold, grandkids are unavailable, etc. So, I decided to entertain myself by writing a bit more and making a few new YouTube videos. No interest in debating JSTAT, that's for sure. But, I am taking my cues from the various boards and related topics, mostly addressing incorrect thinking about various topics.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0K...CQWrjx6PAcgroA

    and my "new" website ... kind of an apheat clone, only my focus is not going to be on analyzing new advantage plays, it's going to be more from the casino-side this time:

    www.advancedadvantageplay.com

    Just getting started. Covid will be the major factor in determining how long it continues.
    I understand you’re bored with the Chinese virus and all, but how long do you plan on beating this dead horse?

    I clicked onto your seven reasons not to count cards video. I was able to stomach it for about 10 minutes. Just to give a personal opinion; your mono tone voice starts to make me drowsy and eventually started to annoy me. I love around 8:10 when you say there are around 100 books printed already about this subject. What’s even more funny is you willing to give away your own book for free. What’s the motive behind that? Is that because you love and want to help the BJ card-counting community? The same group of people who constantly trash you all over the different forums? Is that part of a plan with a possible benefit for some type of future income? After all you are an alleged AP'er. Or are you so wealthy and bored from past AP’ing you decided to become the good AP Samaritan to help or to save present and future losers?

    Since you’re a pro maybe you could explain to me (and maybe others) how one of our top BJ card counters on this site known as the anonymous Kiwlj is capable of pulling off his alleged anonymous claims for over 15 years. He alleges he has been counting cards (sometimes two tables at once when possible) for 15 years with an average of 100K+ profit per year. Not that 100K is any serious sum of money when considering an annual salary. Yet he claims he does this without ever presenting id or casino cards. I could only imagine how many times over 15 years the pit asked him if he wanted to get rated. If he makes a quick suspicious hit early and the pit is coming towards him, he claims he picks up his shit and walks fast away from the table. Trust me when I say I’m only scratching the surface of his absurd past tactics and claims. Without getting into other absurd claims of his, do you think this is even possible in Las Vegas?

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    I think the one area KJ excels is in the “getting away with it” department. Other than that he’s a lying snake in the grass piece of shit troll.
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    It’s always special when alleged pro AP’s call out each other over whose bullshit really works. Got to love when they call each other frauds.

    You can’t make this shit up.
    I take exception to you calling JSTAT an AP.
    "We need to shut down the entire economy so 80-year olds Ma and Pa Kettle might live another six months." Comrade Dietz

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