View Poll Results: Who Are You Going to Vote For This Election

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  • Joe Biden

    3 21.43%
  • Donald Trump

    9 64.29%
  • Someone Else Besides Trump or Biden

    1 7.14%
  • I'm Not Going to Vote

    0 0%
  • I'm Not Allowed to Vote

    1 7.14%
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Thread: Poll: Who Are You Going to Vote For This Election

  1. #21
    Legitimate question. Does anyone check if early voters are still alive on Election Day? And do they have to be if they voted early or is the vote counted since they were alive when they voted?

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Legitimate question. Does anyone check if early voters are still alive on Election Day? And do they have to be if they voted early or is the vote counted since they were alive when they voted?
    Hey, that's right I hadn't ever thought of that angle but I'm pretty sure it does count. At least in Chicago!
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  3. #23
    Generally, most states go with the belief that if an individual places an early ballot, it is no different that the actual voting in a booth on Election Day. If you are alive when you placed the vote, the vote counts. Certain states will dismiss the advanced vote, upon death, but death must be presented by the end of Election Day, not done after the fact.

    Short answer is that every vote will count.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    The main reason I wouldn't want to vote early is something could change in between the time I vote and election day that would make me reconsider my selections.
    If your on the fence, that makes sense, if it's clear cut, like it is for many people, then it's a non factor.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    The main reason I wouldn't want to vote early is something could change in between the time I vote and election day that would make me reconsider my selections.
    If your on the fence, that makes sense, if it's clear cut, like it is for many people, then it's a non factor.
    By the way I miss Alan's stupidity also.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    The main reason I wouldn't want to vote early is something could change in between the time I vote and election day that would make me reconsider my selections.
    If your on the fence, that makes sense, if it's clear cut, like it is for many people, then it's a non factor.
    By the way I miss Alan's stupidity also.
    Profoundly. But seriously folks, I'm talking state and local elections where something might come out on a personal or policy basis that you didn't know about. As far as federal election for potus goes if you're on the fence at this point your right to vote should be rescinded
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  7. #27
    I think the dead people votes should be disqualified because dead people always vote Democrat.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #28
    Hey Monet I assume you attended the Biden car rallies in Vegas. How hugely were the crowds of cars? You were probably the only one there in a pickup though. Didn't hear that many beeps on the U-tube vids.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    The main reason I wouldn't want to vote early is something could change in between the time I vote and election day that would make me reconsider my selections.
    This has happened to me this year. I voted by mail in the Michigan primary this year as soon as I got my ballot for Pete Buttigieg. However, just before the Michigan primary he dropped out of the race for President so my ballot was in effect worthless.

    Now MI has a remedy for this. You can change your vote, but I didn't bother to jump though the hoops to do this.
    https://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...on/4881820002/

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    This is the ONLY Election where I don't want really want ANY of The Main Candidates. That has NEVER happened before. Joe Biden seriously gives me the creeps, I find him creepy, unsettling, and I just don't trust him. And I am still am not 100 percent okay with Trump. But I trust Trump more than I trust Biden. Trump beat the odds and is STILL President despite Society claiming he'd be Impeached within the first year. Besides, under Trump's Presidency, the Economy was extremely good until The Coronavirus suddenly damaged the Economy. This is a historical Election for me as this is the FIRST time I want a Republican over a Democrat.
    Tasha, oh Tasha, I thought I convinced you what a piece of shit Trump is. Folks like Mickeycrimm and Rob Singer are so hard core that they will follow Trump right to hell. It is a waste of time to try to undo their brainwashing. However, I feel there is still hope for you. You can still leave the dark side and make America great for regular folks again.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    This is the ONLY Election where I don't want really want ANY of The Main Candidates. That has NEVER happened before. Joe Biden seriously gives me the creeps, I find him creepy, unsettling, and I just don't trust him. And I am still am not 100 percent okay with Trump. But I trust Trump more than I trust Biden. Trump beat the odds and is STILL President despite Society claiming he'd be Impeached within the first year. Besides, under Trump's Presidency, the Economy was extremely good until The Coronavirus suddenly damaged the Economy. This is a historical Election for me as this is the FIRST time I want a Republican over a Democrat.
    Tasha, oh Tasha, I thought I convinced you what a piece of shit Trump is. Folks like Mickeycrimm and Rob Singer are so hard core that they will follow Trump right to hell. It is a waste of time to try to undo their brainwashing. However, I feel there is still hope for you. You can still leave the dark side and make America great for regular folks again.
    More stupidity. Because of Trump, our retirement account has far more value today than it did when we were finally did of that lying racist Obama--and we've withdrawn bunches during that time while adding nothing. It's just simple common sense, and math. And mickey....he's surrounded by that clean Montana air, which makes him a very clear thinker.

    Those 3 million people (with many more to follow) who've moved out of NY, Illinois and California, and into Texas, Florida and Tennessee----they're doing it to go from Hell to Heaven. IE, Trumpville.

    Wise up.

    And sling: you got your message mixed up. The markets were predicted to RISE when Obama won, and tank quickly if Trump won. Read up on history to see which one had the most effect.

  12. #32
    Rob mentioned two items that hit close to home. First, my wife is planning to stay in Florida for at least six months in the coming year to claim Florida residency. Secondly, last week she changed her 401K portfolio to a 60/40 bond/stock mix due to her age and the possible changes in our government. My wife and I plan to rely on our 401K in the next ten years as much as anyone on this forum.

    Now, as to the belief that certain political parties have better strategies to influence the market, Lee Corso said it best, "Not so fast, my friend.".

    I can honestly state I had no idea if either political party has a better relationship with the market. I spent some time this morning plugging numbers into a spreadsheet and did some old fashioned math. I used the Dow Jones market numbers for each President from the time of their inauguration until now (technically February 1st through August 31st). If a President has two numbers, it is because he had two terms. The numbers represent an annualized yearly return. Here is what I found:

    Reagan: 2.2% / 10.6%
    Bush: 6.3%
    Clinton: 13.0% / 11.6%
    Bush: -1.7% / -4.1%
    Obama: 13.9% / 7.2%
    Trump: 7.7%

    For those that believe that the S&P 500 is a better indicator than the Dow Jones over the last 12 years, the results are similar:

    Obama: 14.5% / 9.7%
    Trump: 9.8%

    I want to emphasize that I did not pull these numbers from an article. I did the math myself, so I could be wrong. We all understand that Bush (the younger) had to deal with 9/11 in his first term and the eventual nasty market correction in 2008. Trump had to deal with the pandemic, although his number is very strong. There is a saying ,that, actions are stronger than words. My wife agrees with Rob on two points. Her actions support this. Nevertheless, I will respectively disagree on how a Trump or Biden administration may or will affect the market. I believe that the republican party will strategize to improve the economy or market, but my 401K did not get destroyed by the democrats during their years.

  13. #33
    Deech, anybody who's taken a business or political class in the last 20 years should know what you just posted.

    There is an Old Wise Jungle saying, "The one percent affects the politicians. The politicians don't affect the one percent."

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    Rob mentioned two items that hit close to home. First, my wife is planning to stay in Florida for at least six months in the coming year to claim Florida residency. Secondly, last week she changed her 401K portfolio to a 60/40 bond/stock mix due to her age and the possible changes in our government. My wife and I plan to rely on our 401K in the next ten years as much as anyone on this forum.

    Now, as to the belief that certain political parties have better strategies to influence the market, Lee Corso said it best, "Not so fast, my friend.".

    I can honestly state I had no idea if either political party has a better relationship with the market. I spent some time this morning plugging numbers into a spreadsheet and did some old fashioned math. I used the Dow Jones market numbers for each President from the time of their inauguration until now (technically February 1st through August 31st). If a President has two numbers, it is because he had two terms. The numbers represent an annualized yearly return. Here is what I found:

    Reagan: 2.2% / 10.6%
    Bush: 6.3%
    Clinton: 13.0% / 11.6%
    Bush: -1.7% / -4.1%
    Obama: 13.9% / 7.2%
    Trump: 7.7%

    For those that believe that the S&P 500 is a better indicator than the Dow Jones over the last 12 years, the results are similar:

    Obama: 14.5% / 9.7%
    Trump: 9.8%

    I want to emphasize that I did not pull these numbers from an article. I did the math myself, so I could be wrong. We all understand that Bush (the younger) had to deal with 9/11 in his first term and the eventual nasty market correction in 2008. Trump had to deal with the pandemic, although his number is very strong. There is a saying ,that, actions are stronger than words. My wife agrees with Rob on two points. Her actions support this. Nevertheless, I will respectively disagree on how a Trump or Biden administration may or will affect the market. I believe that the republican party will strategize to improve the economy or market, but my 401K did not get destroyed by the democrats during their years.
    While you did the findings yourself, all the research I did agrees with your findings. As a matter of fact, many were shocked at Obama's results and prior to his election were expecting the worst.

  15. #35
    If Biden wins get ready for a big lurch to the left in this country. And that's is going to have a big effect on 401K's. Pelosi's move on being able to remove a sitting president is not about Trump. It's about Biden. If he gets in the dems will all of a sudden start to have serious issues about Biden's mental health. All constructed to move Kamala into the presidency.

    Socialism and 401K's don't mix well.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Hey Monet I assume you attended the Biden car rallies in Vegas. How hugely were the crowds of cars? You were probably the only one there in a pickup though. Didn't hear that many beeps on the U-tube vids.
    I don't even know how to respond.
    I'm just glad you are posting again and you mentioned me.
    I understand that we can insult each other to the hilt on this site but do you have to call me a Biden Supporter??
    That's just mean.
    Plumb, Mad-Dog Mean.
    Please join the Movie Reco Discussion Thread as that's mostly my interest these days.

    I put this up on youtube because its a great movie and I watch it all the time.
    Pretty good quote that goes along with my long running slant eyed ramblings.
    The upload is private and copyrighted but it seems to be working?
    I recorded it by hand with my cell phone so its a little off center.

    Can you see it?
    Have you seen this movie?
    Tableplay... have you seen this movie??

    Edit: Think I need to make it public.


    Last edited by monet; 10-11-2020 at 08:49 AM.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Deech, anybody who's taken a business or political class in the last 20 years should know what you just posted.

    There is an Old Wise Jungle saying, "The one percent affects the politicians. The politicians don't affect the one percent."
    This is a note to both Red and Sling. I was neutral on Obama until he went tone deaf late in his second term regarding the rash of cop killings. Some statement should have been made denouncing these actions. That being said, I also need to state that, as an Independent I was fine with a unique change in our officials four years ago. That experiment is now over.

    As stated earlier, I love data. I love data more when it does not come enhanced in an article. Look at the data yourself and think. One can make incorrect assumptions, but that is a part of life. Everyone has certain data point that are critical (or interesting to them). Anyone can alter a President's performance if you find the proper data. That is the beauty of life. Get the information to support your side of the argument.

    After reading some of the posts yesterday, I thought I would review the last two administrations on three things; stock market, budget deficit, and unemployment. Again, I am already on record as to not being a fan of either gentlemen.

    We have already discussed the stock market (401K). One thing to note in Trump's favor. The stock market (Dow Jones) was up 9.6% before COVID struck. That number is still below Obama's two term average (using 3 1/2 years data for each term), but it is close. The belief that Trump gave us more 401K earnings is not true (if you solely go by DJ or S&P 500 data). Secondly, how did the inherited budget deficit alter over the four years? Well, Obama inherited a very nasty number due to the 2008 stock market crash. He steadily lowered it until his final two years. He went from $1,413 billion to $585. Trump increased his deficit in his first three years and has now lowered it for his final year. He went from $665 to $966. Lastly, I always look at unemployment. Remarkably, we have a great effort since October 2009. The number had steadily decreased over 11 years. Obama gave Trump a great trend. It continued. I refuse to muddy the waters with COVID.

    So, in comparing both administrations, with only these three data points, the results are close when removing the pandemic. Obama gets a slight edge on the stock market, Trump gets a slight edge on unemployment (almost a push), and Obama gets the huge edge on budget deficit (remember he inherited a monster). I have no idea why I am writing this. I guess I wanted to prove to myself that Trump took over with this country in a better state than many others believe.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Deech, anybody who's taken a business or political class in the last 20 years should know what you just posted.

    There is an Old Wise Jungle saying, "The one percent affects the politicians. The politicians don't affect the one percent."
    This is a note to both Red and Sling. I was neutral on Obama until he went tone deaf late in his second term regarding the rash of cop killings. Some statement should have been made denouncing these actions. That being said, I also need to state that, as an Independent I was fine with a unique change in our officials four years ago. That experiment is now over.

    As stated earlier, I love data. I love data more when it does not come enhanced in an article. Look at the data yourself and think. One can make incorrect assumptions, but that is a part of life. Everyone has certain data point that are critical (or interesting to them). Anyone can alter a President's performance if you find the proper data. That is the beauty of life. Get the information to support your side of the argument.

    After reading some of the posts yesterday, I thought I would review the last two administrations on three things; stock market, budget deficit, and unemployment. Again, I am already on record as to not being a fan of either gentlemen.

    We have already discussed the stock market (401K). One thing to note in Trump's favor. The stock market (Dow Jones) was up 9.6% before COVID struck. That number is still below Obama's two term average (using 3 1/2 years data for each term), but it is close. The belief that Trump gave us more 401K earnings is not true (if you solely go by DJ or S&P 500 data). Secondly, how did the inherited budget deficit alter over the four years? Well, Obama inherited a very nasty number due to the 2008 stock market crash. He steadily lowered it until his final two years. He went from $1,413 billion to $585. Trump increased his deficit in his first three years and has now lowered it for his final year. He went from $665 to $966. Lastly, I always look at unemployment. Remarkably, we have a great effort since October 2009. The number had steadily decreased over 11 years. Obama gave Trump a great trend. It continued. I refuse to muddy the waters with COVID.

    So, in comparing both administrations, with only these three data points, the results are close when removing the pandemic. Obama gets a slight edge on the stock market, Trump gets a slight edge on unemployment (almost a push), and Obama gets the huge edge on budget deficit (remember he inherited a monster). I have no idea why I am writing this. I guess I wanted to prove to myself that Trump took over with this country in a better state than many others believe.
    OK- so this agrees with my findings that a presidential choice can't be used to predict the stock market. So now we come to character. A lying bully whose only agenda is to make Obama look bad and to take healthcare and social security from the American people, and in the process turn us against each other. Want Biden to tell about court packing? Then tell us your healthcare plan you've been talking about for 31/2 years. His group-Minuchin, McConnell, Meadows,- are pawns he uses to play the American people. "Go high" on the stimulus, he tweets, knowing these three will fall within Trumps predetermined range. Now the attack, started by Brit Hume is that Biden is senile-which the debate dispelled IMHO. But Biden and I BOTH passed the senility test-PERSON,MAN,WOMAN,PICTURE,TV!

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    If Biden wins get ready for a big lurch to the left in this country. And that's is going to have a big effect on 401K's. Pelosi's move on being able to remove a sitting president is not about Trump. It's about Biden. If he gets in the dems will all of a sudden start to have serious issues about Biden's mental health. All constructed to move Kamala into the presidency.

    Socialism and 401K's don't mix well.
    Venezuela had one of the best performing stock markets in history..

    Zimbabwe too....GOAT

    It doesn't matter who gets elected. We're gonna get the inevitable outcome by design, no matter what.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    It doesn't matter who gets elected. We're gonna get the inevitable outcome by design, no matter what.
    Exactly... Nobody gets out alive.

    Mozart died at 35.
    Einstein made it to 76.
    etc etc etc...

    Today with the Chinese Flu, people think they are supposed to live forever lol lol lol
    Last edited by monet; 10-11-2020 at 03:40 PM.

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