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  1. #1061
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post

    I think this could in fact be an April fools joke at the membership expense, co-conspired by Max and Rob together.
    Oh for God sakes! I am really starting to worry about you Mr BoSox.
    You are just now starting?
    Axel, I think you should head right home to see if any valuables are missing.

  2. #1062
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Skip Hughes had a prescription newsletter called Video Poker Player. This goes back 20 years or so. I was subscribed because lots of valuable information on location of strong games. Hughes had a great sense of humor too. It was a fun rag to read.

    But....people being what they are....some people didn't like paying for the information even though it was dirt cheap. The video poker forum, vpFREE, was started to counteract charging for information on video poker.

    Skip bashed Singer so I'm sure that's what pissed Singer off about Hughes. The tragedy was the widow and kids read Singer's obituary of Hughes.
    From my understanding Skips page turned into VPfree? I was on skips page back in the 90's for a short period of time(dial up lol) and knew it was bad news for me since to much good information was being discussed and it killed a few plays. There was at least one casino executive on there. Killing the golden goose was an interesting thread.

  3. #1063
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    Grandpa Newell has not apologized for his lies on this forum and others. He has disappeared from posting though. Which he should as it is his only chance for salvation without making an apology.

    As long as Grandpa Newell remains silent. Should he be given a pass from having to pay for his sins?

    I am inclined to release a shit storm to rain down upon him. Causing him many problems I am sure. Really, I have no pity for the lying sack of shit. But I would value the opinion of others as to whether or not he should get a pass before the games commence.
    MaxPen, a little revue is in order considering 22 pages have passed since you wrote the above quote. Realize it or not your referral about "before the games commence" upcoming games is no longer upcoming as we already are in the mid-season. The conflict centers mainly between you and Singer as we will leave it at that for now.

    Singer supposedly should be in South Dakota by now. Who cares! However, he is being threatened with "plenty of your posts to back that up" possible exposure and facing a lot of real trouble ahead. Whether or not this bothers Singer is an entirely different story.

    Now let's examine MaxPen:

    Were you really concerned about the opinion of others before the games commenced? Fuck no, they were only games to you and you already knew ahead of time that you had some strong support from people that were previously harmed by Singer whose objective was justice. I think you were surprised that a few people opposed how you were handling everything, which you found very amusing but quickly dismissed all of it. Do you really want to back out now considering that people are calling you a liar and a coward. Christ you originally put up Valentines' day as a first warning.

    What do you have to lose as it is already way too late? You already have an AP who will trust you with his money and keys to his house. You also have people who strongly feel that Singer deserves what he gets. Although, you will never get any kind of satisfaction from those from the other side objectors. Why? They did not take Singer's stories seriously and were never affected at all, plus no one likes threats made. Those same people including myself will not be surprised by any outcome, and neither will the silent majority. Personally, I think that you picked the wrong fight as it is a no-win proposition.
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    MaxPen, ever since you instituted the beginning of the games "your words" you have received nothing but encouragement to proceed as well as support from loyal fans KewlJ and redietz. A very interesting twist or experiment on these games would be to ask your two loyal supporters to deliver the next two parts of the report on Singer's history. Putting them in the actual game instead of just sitting in the cheap seats. They both think that you are a wonderful guy it would only stand to reason that they would want to be more than helpful. I am sure that they both made the offer to do this numerous times. Jesus, redietz already has a professional investigator in the family, why has he been silent for years?
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-06-2021 at 08:02 AM.

  4. #1064
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Skip Hughes had a prescription newsletter called Video Poker Player. This goes back 20 years or so. I was subscribed because lots of valuable information on location of strong games. Hughes had a great sense of humor too. It was a fun rag to read.

    But....people being what they are....some people didn't like paying for the information even though it was dirt cheap. The video poker forum, vpFREE, was started to counteract charging for information on video poker.

    Skip bashed Singer so I'm sure that's what pissed Singer off about Hughes. The tragedy was the widow and kids read Singer's obituary of Hughes.
    From my understanding Skips page turned into VPfree? I was on skips page back in the 90's for a short period of time(dial up lol) and knew it was bad news for me since to much good information was being discussed and it killed a few plays. There was at least one casino executive on there. Killing the golden goose was an interesting thread.
    That was the first forum Rob blew up. It got so bad that they kicked him off it and gave one of his own - VPfree3 on the yahoo groups.
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  5. #1065
    Back in his Aceshii days.

  6. #1066
    Is it still around to read?

  7. #1067
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Is it still around to read?
    No. Yahoo closed all their groups back in December.
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  8. #1068
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    MaxPen, ever since you instituted the beginning of the games "your words" you have received nothing but encouragement to proceed as well as support from loyal fans KewlJ and redietz. A very interesting twist or experiment on these games would be to ask your two loyal supporters to deliver the next two parts of the report on Singer's history. Putting them in the actual game instead of just sitting in the cheap seats. They both think that you are a wonderful guy it would only stand to reason that they would want to be more than helpful. I am sure that they both made the offer to do this numerous times. Jesus, redietz already has a professional investigator in the family, why has he been silent for years?
    BoSox, your continuing support of the person posting as Rob Singer is now outright disgusting. I tried to give you the benefit of doubt for a while, thinking you didn't know all the details. But by now all the details have been explained to you and you still support and defend this sick, nasty, bitter losing degenerate gambler.

    The facts are that Singer attempted and failed to be a video poker advantage player for 6 years.

    After that, bitter and angry at his failure when others (particularly Bob Dancer at that time) were able to do what Singer so much wanted to, that Singer concocted this fantasy reality of successful VP play based on voodoo gambling concepts that have long been proven to not work. And for credibility he wrote a book, a fairytale about his gambling successes. While the book was published by The Gamblers Club. I am not sure if it was self published in that Rob paid for the small publishing run or he convinced the GBC to publish a small run (I suspect the former). But the goal was to mislead players and profit off of doing so.

    The claim of winning VP play is so completely bogus. The methodology doesn't work. The timing doesn't work as this so called book launching his great career was published just months after Singers admitted 6 year run and failure as a video poker player.

    Following publishing of the book Singer launched this 20 run of fictional claims on every platform, every forum, a Gaming Today column that he wrote for free. Videos that he made with Alan. He no doubt would have utilized Youtube, had he known how at the time. Few people bought into his fantasy claims, especially anyone with even a little bit of knowledge about how video poker or advantage really works. When people questioned his claims with legitimate challenges, Singer just attacked them with nasty and personal attacks. That has been modus operandi for 20 years now.

    As Mickeycrimm so rightfully pointed out, Singer was banned from every legitimate forum at the time. Internet forum owners are more tolerant of the drama and controversy that someone like Singer creates because it creates traffic, but ultimately there comes a point they could no longer tolerate him, Even Dan Druff who tolerates almost everything has recently come out and announced "It's pretty obvious that all of Rob Singer's controversial stories are complete bullshit. Anyone who believes him at this point is either stupid or trolling." Keep in mind, forum owners have information that we don't even have about all the sock puppets and posting from places that are very different than what he is claiming.

    Anyone who actually looks into this guy, finds that nothing is as he claims, dating back to where he claims to have gone to college. He has never owned property, living in apartments or an trailer/RV park. And now at 71 years old, has little money, and a very modest social security and lives off his kids. Does this sound like a man that has made millions of dollars via his gambling claims?

    And the worst of his attacks over the years has been attacking recently passed spouses of those who dare challenge his claims. He has done so at least 3 times that I am aware of, probably more over the years. And he attacked a man after his death, that had legitimately challenged his bogus claim, not on a internet forum, but in the publication that the man wrote for, for all his grieving family to see. How low can you go? What a true maggot of a person. These are the facts and anyone who says different is a liar.

    That is who you continue to defend BoSox, even after all the cards are on the table. At this point it makes me question you and just what kind of person you are to now continually defend and support this guy. To quote Joseph Welsh during the McCarthy hearings, "Have you no decency sir?

    I am done with you BoSox. I have lost all respect I had for you. You are not the person I thought you were.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 03-06-2021 at 12:14 PM.

  9. #1069
    The old Alan and Singer videos were funny as hell, back when he was in his "Prime". There were many funny comments left back in the day, many were deleted. Peter Griffin in particular.

  10. #1070
    KewlJ wrote:

    "BoSox, your continuing support of the person posting as Rob Singer is now outright disgusting."



    That is not true and never was. Let's just say that I do not like the methods members are using of acquiring and disclosing information that is taking place on the site. Speaking of which you recently mentioned that you yourself are sitting on information on Singer but have real concerns about putting it out there. However, you are one big hypocrite cheerleading MaxPen to do all the fucken dirty work for you. Talk about one underhanded chicken shit son of a bitch you are KJ. I am ashamed of you and lost all respect that I previously may have had for you.
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-06-2021 at 04:53 PM.

  11. #1071
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Skip Hughes had a prescription newsletter called Video Poker Player. This goes back 20 years or so. I was subscribed because lots of valuable information on location of strong games. Hughes had a great sense of humor too. It was a fun rag to read.

    But....people being what they are....some people didn't like paying for the information even though it was dirt cheap. The video poker forum, vpFREE, was started to counteract charging for information on video poker.

    Skip bashed Singer so I'm sure that's what pissed Singer off about Hughes. The tragedy was the widow and kids read Singer's obituary of Hughes.
    From my understanding Skips page turned into VPfree? I was on skips page back in the 90's for a short period of time(dial up lol) and knew it was bad news for me since to much good information was being discussed and it killed a few plays. There was at least one casino executive on there. Killing the golden goose was an interesting thread.
    It's my understanding that the new forum was named vpFREE as a protest to Hughes charging for the newsletter.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #1072
    Originally Posted by jpfromla View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Skip Hughes had a prescription newsletter called Video Poker Player. This goes back 20 years or so. I was subscribed because lots of valuable information on location of strong games. Hughes had a great sense of humor too. It was a fun rag to read.

    But....people being what they are....some people didn't like paying for the information even though it was dirt cheap. The video poker forum, vpFREE, was started to counteract charging for information on video poker.

    Skip bashed Singer so I'm sure that's what pissed Singer off about Hughes. The tragedy was the widow and kids read Singer's obituary of Hughes.
    From my understanding Skips page turned into VPfree? I was on skips page back in the 90's for a short period of time(dial up lol) and knew it was bad news for me since to much good information was being discussed and it killed a few plays. There was at least one casino executive on there. Killing the golden goose was an interesting thread.
    That was the first forum Rob blew up. It got so bad that they kicked him off it and gave one of his own - VPfree3 on the yahoo groups.
    On vpFREE Rob was moderated for years. His posts wouldn't make it to the site until they had been read by a moderator. If deemed inflammatory they wouldn't be posted. Rob quit posting in protest. But they started a free speech arm called FreevpFREE where he posted for quite a few years off and on.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #1073
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It's my understanding that the new forum was named vpFREE as a protest to Hughes charging for the newsletter.
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  14. #1074
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Anyone who actually looks into this guy, finds that nothing is as he claims, dating back to where he claims to have gone to college. He has never owned property, living in apartments or an trailer/RV park. And now at 71 years old, has little money, and a very modest social security and lives off his kids. Does this sound like a man that has made millions of dollars via his gambling claims?
    I've never met Singer so I don't know anything about his wealth or lack thereof. How do you know so much about it? Do you have secret sources? Can you name sources for these statements.

    Can you prove he never went to college?
    Can you prove he has never owned property?
    Can you prove he has little money?
    Can you prove he lives off his kids?

    Or are you just lying again to support your narrative?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #1075
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    KewlJ wrote:

    "BoSox, your continuing support of the person posting as Rob Singer is now outright disgusting."



    That is not true and never was. Let's just say that I do not like the methods members are using of acquiring and disclosing information that is taking place on the site. Speaking of which you recently mentioned that you yourself are sitting on information on Singer but have real concerns about putting it out there. However, you are one big hypocrite cheerleading MaxPen to do all the fucken dirty work for you. Talk about one underhanded chicken shit son of a bitch you are KJ. I am ashamed of you and lost all respect that I previously may have had for you.
    KJochio is doing the same to you that he did to me, attacking your character to get you to come over to his side. That's KJochio's despicable way. He's a narcissist.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #1076
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It's my understanding that the new forum was named vpFREE as a protest to Hughes charging for the newsletter.
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    I used to play the Golden Nugget Deuces Wild. It was five meters. One time the meters broke and wouldn't reset. That was lots of fun.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #1077
    Where were the righteous ones when Mr Singer was libeling, trolling, insulting and adding his hateful and racist and discriminating remarks on this forum?

    You can't unring a bell.

  18. #1078
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Where were the righteous ones when Mr Singer was libeling, trolling, insulting and adding his hateful and racist and discriminating remarks on this forum?

    You can't unring a bell.
    Because he was extremely entertaining for several years. His gig was up at the end with his BS, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

  19. #1079
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Where were the righteous ones when Mr Singer was libeling, trolling, insulting and adding his hateful and racist and discriminating remarks on this forum?

    You can't unring a bell.
    Because he was extremely entertaining for several years. His gig was up at the end with his BS, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
    You got your jollies at the expense of others?

  20. #1080
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
    Where were the righteous ones when Mr Singer was libeling, trolling, insulting and adding his hateful and racist and discriminating remarks on this forum?

    You can't unring a bell.
    Because he was extremely entertaining for several years. His gig was up at the end with his BS, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
    You got your jollies at the expense of others?
    I'm able to be open minded when it comes to comedy. We all need to laugh. He was a good friend of yours for several of those years.

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