Finding Grandpa's Newell

[tableplay]

It's my understanding that the new forum was named vpFREE as a protest to Hughes charging for the newsletter.

Memories:

I used to play the Golden Nugget Deuces Wild. It was five meters. One time the meters broke and wouldn't reset. That was lots of fun.

No doubt. Cool story sir.

[quahaug]

Where's the Kraken? Is there no Kraken?

[MaxPen]

Anyone who actually looks into this guy, finds that nothing is as he claims, dating back to where he claims to have gone to college. He has never owned property, living in apartments or an trailer/RV park. And now at 71 years old, has little money, and a very modest social security and lives off his kids. Does this sound like a man that has made millions of dollars via his gambling claims?

I've never met Singer so I don't know anything about his wealth or lack thereof. How do you know so much about it? Do you have secret sources? Can you name sources for these statements.

Can you prove he never went to college?
Can you prove he has never owned property?
Can you prove he has little money?
Can you prove he lives off his kids?

Or are you just lying again to support your narrative?

His absence from the forum is all the proof you need that the man you revered and served was full of shit on almost all of his claims. I don't think he's ever coming back. Even though it has been made clear that he can. Even can talk some shit. So bozos like you can feed off the endless trolls. Like you have been for decades.

[monet]

Memories:

I didn't get on it when the meters broke.
I have been on banks that have had stuck meters though.
I played that DW Progressive at the Nugget for awhile.
We used to play it when the numbers got up.
One day they decided to move the bank.
I want to say it was a 5 way progressive.
Might of been 6 way.
Doesn't really matter.
The point is, when they moved it and turned it back on it reset incorrectly.
Turned out it became a 5% winner.
The meters weren't stuck they were set incorrectly.
I played it for 3 weeks straight crushing it.
I feel like that was the summer of 2005 but I might have my wires crossed and it was 2006.
Certainly in that time frame.
Probably was 2006.
I'd have to look at some records/paperwork to pinpoint the exact month but why bother?
One night I hit 6 sets of deuces and 2 royals for a 3300 win.
I beat it for about 12 grand total as I was actually employed at the time so I couldn't pound it as hard.
I would literally fall asleep while playing at the machine lol.
One weekend some Golden Nugget Tournament came to town.
A couple pros found the machine a bit too late.
I overheard them saying we stay on this bank till they throw us off.
I laughed internally to myself.
A couple hours later two suits were behind me.
One said to the other... that bank is a 5% winner.
The next day, when I came in, it was fixed.
Guess those guys didn't get to play it for very long.
Not many people knew or cared about it as I played it alone for many hours late at night.
Nice Run while it lasted.
Decent Card and Mailer from that play.
The Nugget was good even before that time.
They had a bunch of full pay stuff with a .67 card and mail.
Funny that during that deuce bank situation they had a 10 play 10/7 Double Bonus Quarter game too.
It didn't last long either as they were cut, cut, cutting that joint to what it is today.

That was around the same time that Binions put back some FPDW for awhile.
Older quarter machines that would drop coins.
Still Full Pay though.
I crushed those too.
I want to say 3 machine bank by the elevators to go up to the Steak House.
I can't remember for sure but I recall at least 3 machines because I played with my pal and his gal.
I haven't talked to my pal for 4 years now.
Miss him as I consider him a brother.
I guess families do break up.
She couldn't hack it and finally had enough moving to Baltimore of all places to deal poker at some new Casino.
Not sure how that is working out these days lol.
She was a Snotty Yenta anyways.

Interesting Notes:
I never knew about this paper or website.
I didn't know about VPFree for a long time after its inception.
I either found stuff from scouting or from the grapevine.
I've found that things like VPFree don't show me anything I don't already know about.
I used to like to look at VPFree and wonder why they didn't list everything.
Not that I wouldn't like these tools but the grapevine or word of mouth is much more efficient.

[BoSox]

Anyone who actually looks into this guy, finds that nothing is as he claims, dating back to where he claims to have gone to college. He has never owned property, living in apartments or an trailer/RV park. And now at 71 years old, has little money, and a very modest social security and lives off his kids. Does this sound like a man that has made millions of dollars via his gambling claims?

I've never met Singer so I don't know anything about his wealth or lack thereof. How do you know so much about it? Do you have secret sources? Can you name sources for these statements.

Can you prove he never went to college?
Can you prove he has never owned property?
Can you prove he has little money?
Can you prove he lives off his kids?

Or are you just lying again to support your narrative?

His absence from the forum is all the proof you need that the man you revered and served was full of shit on almost all of his claims.

Trying to lie your way out of this with a poor attempt to antagonize mickeycrimm with yet another lie.

I don't think he's ever coming back. Even though it has been made clear that he can. Even can talk some shit.

Oh my God, Singer must be shaking in his boots. That is funnier than you allowing him to come back while setting the terms for his return.

So bozos like you can feed off the endless trolls. Like you have been for decades.

Apparently, it makes you feel better believing your own delusional lies.

[Ozzy]

Memories:

I didn't get on it when the meters broke.
I have been on banks that have had stuck meters though.
I played that DW Progressive at the Nugget for awhile.
We used to play it when the numbers got up.
One day they decided to move the bank.
I want to say it was a 5 way progressive.
Might of been 6 way.
Doesn't really matter.
The point is, when they moved it and turned it back on it reset incorrectly.
Turned out it became a 5% winner.
The meters weren't stuck they were set incorrectly.
I played it for 3 weeks straight crushing it.
I feel like that was the summer of 2005 but I might have my wires crossed and it was 2006.
Certainly in that time frame.
Probably was 2006.
I'd have to look at some records/paperwork to pinpoint the exact month but why bother?
One night I hit 6 sets of deuces and 2 royals for a 3300 win.
I beat it for about 12 grand total as I was actually employed at the time so I couldn't pound it as hard.
I would literally fall asleep while playing at the machine lol.
One weekend some Golden Nugget Tournament came to town.
A couple pros found the machine a bit too late.
I overheard them saying we stay on this bank till they throw us off.
I laughed internally to myself.
A couple hours later two suits were behind me.
One said to the other... that bank is a 5% winner.
The next day, when I came in, it was fixed.
Guess those guys didn't get to play it for very long.
Not many people knew or cared about it as I played it alone for many hours late at night.
Nice Run while it lasted.
Decent Card and Mailer from that play.
The Nugget was good even before that time.
They had a bunch of full pay stuff with a .67 card and mail.
Funny that during that deuce bank situation they had a 10 play 10/7 Double Bonus Quarter game too.
It didn't last long either as they were cut, cut, cutting that joint to what it is today.

That was around the same time that Binions put back some FPDW for awhile.
Older quarter machines that would drop coins.
Still Full Pay though.
I crushed those too.
I want to say 3 machine bank by the elevators to go up to the Steak House.
I can't remember for sure but I recall at least 3 machines because I played with my pal and his gal.
I haven't talked to my pal for 4 years now.
Miss him as I consider him a brother.
I guess families do break up.
She couldn't hack it and finally had enough moving to Baltimore of all places to deal poker at some new Casino.
Not sure how that is working out these days lol.
She was a Snotty Yenta anyways.

Interesting Notes:
I never knew about this paper or website.
I didn't know about VPFree for a long time after its inception.
I either found stuff from scouting or from the grapevine.
I've found that things like VPFree don't show me anything I don't already know about.
I used to like to look at VPFree and wonder why they didn't list everything.
Not that I wouldn't like these tools but the grapevine or word of mouth is much more efficient.

The big question is, why did you have a job 10 years into AP, for someone as sharp and resourceful as yourself ? I quit mine completely after 3 years.

[monet]

The big question is, why did you have a job 10 years into AP, for someone as sharp and resourceful as yourself ? I quit mine completely after 3 years.

Poker was in a Boom State.
I was stealing, getting paid an hourly plus tips and health insurance to do it.
Enough Said.
Don't you feel silly now?
Don't worry, I've never been able to hold down an actual job for very long in my life.
I think my record is 11 months in a row.
And that was before I started with machine play.
It usually goes like this.
I get a job.
A couple days later I don't want to wake up because sleep feels good.
I never call or go back to said job.

[tableplay]

Memories:

I didn't get on it when the meters broke.
I have been on banks that have had stuck meters though.
I played that DW Progressive at the Nugget for awhile.
We used to play it when the numbers got up.
One day they decided to move the bank.
I want to say it was a 5 way progressive.
Might of been 6 way.
Doesn't really matter.
The point is, when they moved it and turned it back on it reset incorrectly.
Turned out it became a 5% winner.
The meters weren't stuck they were set incorrectly.
I played it for 3 weeks straight crushing it.
I feel like that was the summer of 2005 but I might have my wires crossed and it was 2006.
Certainly in that time frame.
Probably was 2006.
I'd have to look at some records/paperwork to pinpoint the exact month but why bother?
One night I hit 6 sets of deuces and 2 royals for a 3300 win.
I beat it for about 12 grand total as I was actually employed at the time so I couldn't pound it as hard.
I would literally fall asleep while playing at the machine lol.
One weekend some Golden Nugget Tournament came to town.
A couple pros found the machine a bit too late.
I overheard them saying we stay on this bank till they throw us off.
I laughed internally to myself.
A couple hours later two suits were behind me.
One said to the other... that bank is a 5% winner.
The next day, when I came in, it was fixed.
Guess those guys didn't get to play it for very long.
Not many people knew or cared about it as I played it alone for many hours late at night.
Nice Run while it lasted.
Decent Card and Mailer from that play.
The Nugget was good even before that time.
They had a bunch of full pay stuff with a .67 card and mail.
Funny that during that deuce bank situation they had a 10 play 10/7 Double Bonus Quarter game too.
It didn't last long either as they were cut, cut, cutting that joint to what it is today.

That was around the same time that Binions put back some FPDW for awhile.
Older quarter machines that would drop coins.
Still Full Pay though.
I crushed those too.
I want to say 3 machine bank by the elevators to go up to the Steak House.
I can't remember for sure but I recall at least 3 machines because I played with my pal and his gal.
I haven't talked to my pal for 4 years now.
Miss him as I consider him a brother.
I guess families do break up.
She couldn't hack it and finally had enough moving to Baltimore of all places to deal poker at some new Casino.
Not sure how that is working out these days lol.
She was a Snotty Yenta anyways.

Interesting Notes:
I never knew about this paper or website.
I didn't know about VPFree for a long time after its inception.
I either found stuff from scouting or from the grapevine.
I've found that things like VPFree don't show me anything I don't already know about.
I used to like to look at VPFree and wonder why they didn't list everything.
Not that I wouldn't like these tools but the grapevine or word of mouth is much more efficient.

Terrific stories Monet (and in the Newell thread no less). Multi-hand +EV VP (ten hand 10/7 db) even for a short time is a lot of fun I would imagine.

[monet]

Terrific stories Monet (and in the Newell thread no less). Multi-hand +EV VP (ten hand 10/7 db) even for a short time is a lot of fun I would imagine.

For years they had lots of plays or better like that.
One of the better cards at .67 and decent mail.
My favorite thing with them was when they would invite you to the Golf Scrambles.
You would play best ball with 3 other guys.
Constant food and drink carts rolling by for free.
And you usually won money at the end of the thing.
I averaged from 400 to 800 in black chips per invite.
They paid in chips.
Free Room.
Good Drink.
Good Gamble.
Good Times.
Gone Forever.

[tableplay]

Terrific stories Monet (and in the Newell thread no less). Multi-hand +EV VP (ten hand 10/7 db) even for a short time is a lot of fun I would imagine.

For years they had lots of plays or better like that.
One of the better cards at .67 and decent mail.
My favorite thing with them was when they would invite you to the Golf Scrambles.
You would play best ball with 3 other guys.
Constant food and drink carts rolling buy for free.
And you usually won money at the end of the thing.
I averaged from 400 to 800 in black chips per invite.
They paid in chips.
Free Room.
Good Drink.
Good Gamble.
Good Times.
Gone Forever.

Indeed:
I found 50 play brick and mortar APDW with good free play and food comp once (obviously the play didn't last), but never +EV multi-hand straight-up. That APDW wasn't listed in VPfree - go figure ;-). I recall Mickey had mentioned finding multi-hand FPDW and it was even dollar denom IIRC. You guys really killed it back in the day (and now too).

[Ozzy]

The big question is, why did you have a job 10 years into AP, for someone as sharp and resourceful as yourself ? I quit mine completely after 3 years.

Poker was in a Boom State.
I was stealing, getting paid an hourly plus tips and health insurance to do it.
Enough Said.
Don't you feel silly now?
Don't worry, I've never been able to hold down an actual job for very long in my life.
I think my record is 11 months in a row.
And that was before I started with machine play.
It usually goes like this.
I get a job.
A couple days later I don't want to wake up because sleep feels good.
I never call or go back to said job.

I wouldn't be surprised if most guys who have made a life of this, have all had a hard time sticking with the 9- 5 life. The mindset is polar opposite to AP in many ways.

[monet]

I wouldn't be surprised if most guys who have made a life of this, have all had a hard time sticking with the 9- 5 life. The mindset is polar opposite to AP in many ways.

I've talked about this before.
I would work a Poker Tournament.
They didn't watch the backdoors very well.
I found a leak that if they sent you to Satellites they didn't keep good track of dealers.
So I would swipe and sign in and leave immediately.
Proceed over to the Stardust or some other Casino and play Full Pay Video Poker.
Come back early in the morning at the end of my shift.
Sign Out and Swipe out.
Getting paid 8.25 per hour to play Full Pay Video Poker.
Was it 8.25... maybe 7.25... whatever.
Sometimes I would just go home and sleep getting paid an hourly wage.
Good Times.
Jobs aren't so bad if you know how to work them.
I can't take credit for this though.
I was taught by someone else about this sort of thing how Casinos didn't keep good track of employees in many situations.
Probably harder to accomplish these days.
However, most systems can be beat in one way or another.
It helps being tall, white and blending in like the wallpaper.

Everyone knows that Tournament Directors or Employees have an easy life of stealing.
Re-Buys = Free Cars and other Worldly Pleasures.

[blackhole]

MaxPen is the perfect phony member example that motivates me to keep coming back to this sewer just to point out their bullshit and misleading lies.

These types of members and their little loving group are in desperate need to convince others and more so themselves that they are relevant and made the right decisions in life. A perfect example is the comment BoSox made above how chest beating proud Max is that he convinced the membership here that he laid down the terms and conditions for Rob to return.

Although a few people are doing this AP shit successfully to what extent I’m not sure. We know for facts how successful a few have done like Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu, Billy Walters, and a handful of others.

We have AP’s here like Kewlj bragging how he was able to make 80 to 100 grand a year. At his 2-bit level you must wonder the actual time and effort he must put into it. He could make that same money managing a McDonalds, along with health benefits, matching 401K donations, 2 weeks paid vacations, 2 weeks sick-pay, bonuses, etc. Along with never having the fear of getting thrown out, rule changes, being identified, just to name a few.

Until actual factual proof is confirmed like the few AP’s I mentioned above, I’m convinced most forum AP’s are in the same shitty bracket as Kewlj.

And forum AP’s like MaxPen, Axel, Blackboy, Kewlj, and a couple others that only can prove themselves to their friends, are here seeking self-praise and self-pity for making stupid life decisions.

Just look at what MaxPen just tried to pull off along with a few of his pals against Rob. Even if it’s all true. I guess it’s to prove that all the members are too stupid to come to their own conclusions and must fall in line with their ad nauseum of hatred their anonymous existence developed.

Of all the AP’s here and regardless how much the top forum AP Axel loves and approves of him, I’m convinced MaxPen is a COWARD, fraud, con artist, and phony looking for serious attention.

C’mon MaxPen prove yourself. Give us your real name, date of birth, and anything else you’re willing to offer for us to realize you are the real deal.

Hope your name doesn’t come up a blank like Redietz does.

[monet]

Indeed:
I found 50 play brick and mortar APDW with good free play and food comp once (obviously the play didn't last), but never +EV multi-hand straight-up. That APDW wasn't listed in VPfree - go figure ;-). I recall Mickey had mentioned finding multi-hand FPDW and it was even dollar denom IIRC. You guys really killed it back in the day (and now too).

I've said this before.
Players were making 80k cash per year playing quarter video poker with no risk and minimal starting bankroll.
Many of those guys, if they are still alive, went back to working for the Casino because all the plays dried up.
Or they learned new ways like MC and Vision Machines.
Or they went around the country finding other monster plays.
Realize that my friend showed me how to deflect coins out of the machines at the Venetian at the bar.
He figured a way of how to do it with a coin so he never banged up his finger.
We drank like fishes and used the free coins to keep playing Video Poker.
Hence the reason he threw 4 grand into the air in the streets of Reno.
I guess he thought the gravy train would never end.
He's a wild man when it comes to Crown Royal and Royal Flushes though.
Too bad he has a love affair with the Dice Table.

[BoSox]

We have AP’s here like Kewlj bragging how he was able to make 80 to 100 grand a year. At his 2-bit level you must wonder the actual time and effort he must put into it. He could make that same money managing a McDonalds, along with health benefits, matching 401K donations, 2 weeks paid vacations, 2 weeks sick-pay, bonuses, etc. Along with never having the fear of getting thrown out, rule changes, being identified, just to name a few.

KewlJ, possibly managing a McDonald's that is a bit of a stretch. He just might have problems dealing with public relations, do you think? He most likely would tell the same person in 17 different ways that he is only following company policy.

[mickeycrimm]

Anyone who actually looks into this guy, finds that nothing is as he claims, dating back to where he claims to have gone to college. He has never owned property, living in apartments or an trailer/RV park. And now at 71 years old, has little money, and a very modest social security and lives off his kids. Does this sound like a man that has made millions of dollars via his gambling claims?

I've never met Singer so I don't know anything about his wealth or lack thereof. How do you know so much about it? Do you have secret sources? Can you name sources for these statements.

Can you prove he never went to college?
Can you prove he has never owned property?
Can you prove he has little money?
Can you prove he lives off his kids?

Or are you just lying again to support your narrative?

His absence from the forum is all the proof you need that the man you revered and served was full of shit on almost all of his claims. I don't think he's ever coming back. Even though it has been made clear that he can. Even can talk some shit. So bozos like you can feed off the endless trolls. Like you have been for decades.

So that's your evidence. Hell, that would get a conviction everytime in court, right? Damn, you're dense. Like I said, put up some evidence instead of just running your punk mouth. But....the problem is....the more you post....the stupider you look.

So not posting is conclusive proof? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Go back to your nickel plays, bottomfeeder.

[mickeycrimm]

Where were the righteous ones when Mr Singer was libeling, trolling, insulting and adding his hateful and racist and discriminating remarks on this forum?

You can't unring a bell.

Because he was extremely entertaining for several years. His gig was up at the end with his BS, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

You got your jollies at the expense of others?

Look who's talking. Alan, you enabled Singer for what? A decade? Now, do you remember about that girl that sent over thugs to get you out of her house? You didn't tell us the real story, did you? Made up some phony misunderstanding for why she threw you out. The truth was she didn't like your gambling habit. Ain't that right?

[mickeycrimm]

Is it still around to read?

I think you can find the archives somewhere. vpFREE is now on google.

[MaxPen]

I've never met Singer so I don't know anything about his wealth or lack thereof. How do you know so much about it? Do you have secret sources? Can you name sources for these statements.

Can you prove he never went to college?
Can you prove he has never owned property?
Can you prove he has little money?
Can you prove he lives off his kids?

Or are you just lying again to support your narrative?

His absence from the forum is all the proof you need that the man you revered and served was full of shit on almost all of his claims. I don't think he's ever coming back. Even though it has been made clear that he can. Even can talk some shit. So bozos like you can feed off the endless trolls. Like you have been for decades.

So that's your evidence. Hell, that would get a conviction everytime in court, right? Damn, you're dense. Like I said, put up some evidence instead of just running your punk mouth. But....the problem is....the more you post....the stupider you look.

So not posting is conclusive proof? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Go back to your nickel plays, bottomfeeder.

It takes a really dense person to not understand what happened. I expect nothing less from you though.

Can you imagine living in your daughter's spare room as she busts her ass to provide a roof over your head? Because your failed retirement plan couldn't even support you remaining in an apartment. Then she has to find out you're running around the internet claiming that you're the one who provided her shelter by buying her a house.

That's just one example of many. 95% of Singer's insults were projections of his own failings. Just like when you project your nickel keno bullshit on me.

Extrapolate out all of the ramifications of Singer's bullshit claims and you might understand the predicament he put himself in, to someone that knows the entire truth of his reality. I am choosing to allow him to keep his dignity in front of the ones he loves though.

You rolled over and took the whole Singer 9 and you're all butt hurt that you couldn't figure out how to shut the troll down.

[BoSox]

His absence from the forum is all the proof you need that the man you revered and served was full of shit on almost all of his claims. I don't think he's ever coming back. Even though it has been made clear that he can. Even can talk some shit. So bozos like you can feed off the endless trolls. Like you have been for decades.

So that's your evidence. Hell, that would get a conviction everytime in court, right? Damn, you're dense. Like I said, put up some evidence instead of just running your punk mouth. But....the problem is....the more you post....the stupider you look.

So not posting is conclusive proof? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Go back to your nickel plays, bottomfeeder.

It takes a really dense person to not understand what happened. I expect nothing less from you though.

Can you imagine living in your daughter's spare room as she busts her ass to provide a roof over your head? Because your failed retirement plan couldn't even support you remaining in an apartment. Then she has to find out you're running around the internet claiming that you're the one who provided her shelter by buying her a house.

That's just one example of many. 95% of Singer's insults were projections of his own failings. Just like when you project your nickel keno bullshit on me.

Extrapolate out all of the ramifications of Singer's bullshit claims and you might understand the predicament he put himself in, to someone that knows the entire truth of his reality. I am choosing to allow him to keep his dignity in front of the ones he loves though.

You rolled over and took the whole Singer 9 and you're all butt hurt that you couldn't figure out how to shut the troll down.

MaxPen, just what is the big accomplishment of yours with making amusing threats of storms coming against someone who may have a lifetime addiction to gambling as well as possible mental health issues? A word of advice, any time that you have the full backing of KewlJ should be a warning sign that something may not be right.