Challenge for Mike”The Wizard of Vegas” Shackleford

[The Boz]

Not sure if it is still posted on his forum but I posted a challenge for the Wizard tonight.

As many know, the little man insulted my wife years ago with his trivia challenge. He started it to make fun of servers and bartenders for his amusement. For some reason he though it was funny to show how much of a smarter man he was compared to the average working person.

And others played along. So let’s bring it full circle and make him put his money where his mouth is. I’m willing to put my money up against his.

My proposal is my me against him for $10,000 and his wife against mine for another $10,000. We only need to determine who determines the questions and the details.

Will the little man show up here to finalize the details or will he walk away. I welcome Dan or any other member to suggest the questions and details. My money is good, is Mike’s?

[Dan Druff]

I will escrow for this if there is any question about that.

Not that Mike knows me very well, but some of his friends do, and can probably tell him that I'm not going to stiff anyone.

[The Boz]

I will escrow for this if there is any question about that.

Not that Mike knows me very well, but some of his friends do, and can probably tell him that I'm not going to stiff anyone.

I will definitely accept you as escrow on my end. And Mike should as well as you are as reliable and reputable as they come.

But it appears Mike deleted my challenge over there. He knows where to find me if he is game.

And I know some of the same people you know so they can communicate the offer if he is game. My money is good.

[mickeycrimm]

Boz, what's the name of the thread over there?

[The Boz]

Boz, what's the name of the thread over there?

I put it in the Alex Trebek thread under an obvious sock and offered it to Mike. He deleted the post and the sock.

[mickeycrimm]

Boz, what's the name of the thread over there?

I put it in the Alex Trebek thread under an obvious sock and offered it to Mike. He deleted the post and the sock.

I'm was asking about the name of the thread where Mike made fun of bartenders and waitresses.

[The Boz]

Boz, what's the name of the thread over there?

I put it in the Alex Trebek thread under an obvious sock and offered it to Mike. He deleted the post and the sock.

I'm was asking about the name of the thread where Mike made fun of bartenders and waitresses.

Talking about the years of him betting on if a waitress or server could answer trivia questions at meetups. He has bragged about it many times over the years and I personally witnessed it. The goal of the game is to humiliate the person by asking what most consider easy questions and then laugh when they don’t know them.

It has been discussed many times in the write ups after meet ups.

[coach belly]

I personally witnessed it. The goal of the game is to humiliate the person by asking what most consider easy questions and then laugh when they don’t know them.

Why are you bringing this up now?

Why didn't you challenge him on the spot when you witnessed his attempts to humiliate your server(s)?

Do you really think you could beat him in a trivia contest, or are you just trying to draw his wife into a competition?

If he's in MENSA then he must have the ability to recall of lots of information, but there must be a reason why he didn't snap call you.

[blackhole]

I have to be honest with you Boz. This challenge is ridiculous and somewhat disappointing coming from you. You’ve been around these irrelevant, waste of time, purely for personal entertainment, gambling forums for years.

You should know better then to come up with such an absurd, never going to happen challenge. Do you really need to feel important? I love the way Dan steps up to the plate and volunteers to help pull it off. I guess whatever it takes to help promote a failing forum. Really? Who the fuck is Dan anyhow? An unknown poker Player to almost everyone who owns a couple of 2-bit gambling forums?

I read you as a person with class. I have to believe you didn’t put to much thought into this stupid, impossible challenge.

Please direct me to any online challenges from these forums that actually took place even once.

[Rob.Singer]

I have to be honest with you Boz. This challenge is ridiculous and somewhat disappointing coming from you. You’ve been around these irrelevant, waste of time, purely for personal entertainment, gambling forums for years.

You should know better then to come up with such an absurd, never going to happen challenge. Do you really need to feel important? I love the way Dan steps up to the plate and volunteers to help pull it off. I guess whatever it takes to help promote a failing forum. Really? Who the fuck is Dan anyhow? An unknown poker Player to almost everyone who owns a couple of 2-bit gambling forums?

I read you as a person with class. I have to believe you didn’t put to much thought into this stupid, impossible challenge.

Please direct me to any online challenges from these forums that actually took place even once.

And don't forget--Dan lives and is financially stuck in California, which makes it mandatory to step up to the one-upmanship plate.

Wizard would never accept a bet he wasn't a favorite at winning, which obviously in this case he is not. People who threw their lives away to gambling along with the commercial side of it--MENSA OR NOT-- inherently have far far less going for them in the outside world.

He, nor any of his queer, atheist or transvestite weirdo idol-worshipers, are incapable of responding to any challenges that may expose how stupid they really are.

[Ozzy]

I have to be honest with you Boz. This challenge is ridiculous and somewhat disappointing coming from you. You’ve been around these irrelevant, waste of time, purely for personal entertainment, gambling forums for years.

You should know better then to come up with such an absurd, never going to happen challenge. Do you really need to feel important? I love the way Dan steps up to the plate and volunteers to help pull it off. I guess whatever it takes to help promote a failing forum. Really? Who the fuck is Dan anyhow? An unknown poker Player to almost everyone who owns a couple of 2-bit gambling forums?

I read you as a person with class. I have to believe you didn’t put to much thought into this stupid, impossible challenge.

Please direct me to any online challenges from these forums that actually took place even once.

And don't forget--Dan lives and is financially stuck in California, which makes it mandatory to step up to the one-upmanship plate.

Wizard would never accept a bet he wasn't a favorite at winning, which obviously in this case he is not. People who threw their lives away to gambling along with the commercial side of it--MENSA OR NOT-- inherently have far far less going for them in the outside world.

He, nor any of his queer, atheist or transvestite weirdo idol-worshipers, are incapable of responding to any challenges that may expose how stupid they really are.

Speaking of wagers, where almost mid November, how's the Newell coming along Rob ?

[Rob.Singer]

I have to be honest with you Boz. This challenge is ridiculous and somewhat disappointing coming from you. You’ve been around these irrelevant, waste of time, purely for personal entertainment, gambling forums for years.

You should know better then to come up with such an absurd, never going to happen challenge. Do you really need to feel important? I love the way Dan steps up to the plate and volunteers to help pull it off. I guess whatever it takes to help promote a failing forum. Really? Who the fuck is Dan anyhow? An unknown poker Player to almost everyone who owns a couple of 2-bit gambling forums?

I read you as a person with class. I have to believe you didn’t put to much thought into this stupid, impossible challenge.

Please direct me to any online challenges from these forums that actually took place even once.

And don't forget--Dan lives and is financially stuck in California, which makes it mandatory to step up to the one-upmanship plate.

Wizard would never accept a bet he wasn't a favorite at winning, which obviously in this case he is not. People who threw their lives away to gambling along with the commercial side of it--MENSA OR NOT-- inherently have far far less going for them in the outside world.

He, nor any of his queer, atheist or transvestite weirdo idol-worshipers, are incapable of responding to any challenges that may expose how stupid they really are.

Speaking of wagers, where almost mid November, how's the Newell coming along Rob ?

I'm not aware of any wager, but there's a bit of a delay getting a few parts for the front face damage because of the more modern led headlight cluster I upgraded it to several years ago. Everything else is done, but they're expecting 3-4 weeks. So I'm gonna wait until just after the holidays to get things going.

[kewlJ]

. So I'm gonna wait until just after the holidays to get things going.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE

[The Boz]

I have to be honest with you Boz. This challenge is ridiculous and somewhat disappointing coming from you. You’ve been around these irrelevant, waste of time, purely for personal entertainment, gambling forums for years.

You should know better then to come up with such an absurd, never going to happen challenge. Do you really need to feel important? I love the way Dan steps up to the plate and volunteers to help pull it off. I guess whatever it takes to help promote a failing forum. Really? Who the fuck is Dan anyhow? An unknown poker Player to almost everyone who owns a couple of 2-bit gambling forums?

I read you as a person with class. I have to believe you didn’t put to much thought into this stupid, impossible challenge.

Please direct me to any online challenges from these forums that actually took place even once.

It was and is a legitimate offer. Of course Mike won’t take it for one simple reason, he won’t allow his wife to be ridiculed for losing, which she would. He had no such concerns trying it with my wife, and she more than held her own. That said, some of you are correct and I allowed it.

It just goes back to him thinking he is superior to others and loves making fun of those less fortunate or what he considers less intelligent than him.

By the way, I do the same insulting towards others, but unlike the Wiz, I clearly admit it and don’t try to say I’m a good, respected public person.

So while I kind of see where you are coming from BH, I stand by the offer. And you are 100% correct, nothing will come of it.

[kewlJ]

It just goes back to him thinking he is superior to others and loves making fun of those less fortunate or what he considers less intelligent than him.

Boz, since I am not familiar with the situation, did Mike make fun of your wife directly? or did he make fun of bar maids/waitresses that you took offense at, I guess because your wife is or was one at one time?

Also was Mikes wife there and part of that making fun? If not I don't see why you would bring her into it?

Now, for 4 and a half years, YOU and others kept advising me to let my grievances go. I didn't and couldn't but I will still offer your own advice back at you. And I don't suppose you will take it either, but you would be better off just letting this go. Like is too short.

Now, as for your statement that I quoted above. Again, I don't know anything about this situation, so I am not saying Mike did or didn't do what you claim, but a person who does this kind of thing already exposes themselves as a very insecure, small person. You don't have to do that for them.

[The Boz]

It just goes back to him thinking he is superior to others and loves making fun of those less fortunate or what he considers less intelligent than him.

Boz, since I am not familiar with the situation, did Mike make fun of your wife directly? or did he make fun of bar maids/waitresses that you took offense at, I guess because your wife is or was one at one time?

Also was Mikes wife there and part of that making fun? If not I don't see why you would bring her into it?

Now, for 4 and a half years, YOU and others kept advising me to let my grievances go. I didn't and couldn't but I will still offer your own advice back at you. And I don't suppose you will take it either, but you would be better off just letting this go. Like is too short.

Now, as for your statement that I quoted above. Again, I don't know anything about this situation, so I am not saying Mike did or didn't do what you claim, but a person who does this kind of thing already exposes themselves as a very insecure, small person. You don't have to do that for them.

I’m going to answer you KJ because it’s who I am. But before that I’ll answer your “Let it go” comment as many know, I’m still semi young, rich compared to the average person, bored at times and probably have many years to live while having done more than 99.9% of Americans have done in their lifetime. That’s not bragging, that’s a fact. And yea at times while talking about it, I’m also bitter towards people who think I’m special or entitled.

And maybe you are/ were in the same situation, the anger you had toward the Wiz didn’t affect your earnings or life. And as one who called you out on it, I’m guilty if you were in the sane situation, angry at a little man who at the end of the day didn’t really affect us one way or another.

The answer to the original question is Mike’s wife was never part of it, I believe he never involves her in his “business”. We can assume she lives a separate like with “Mike” from the “Wizard”. It’s obvious that most wives shouldn’t put up with their husbands drooling over models like the Wizard does. But she must believe he is playing a roll like an actor. The Wizard isn’t Mike to her. Mike could never make the statements the Wizard does towards the models he makes videos with.

My wife was part of a meetup with many other members. And Mike, pardon me, the Wizard wanted to bet on and involve her in the games he enjoys so much. He and another member bet if she could answer questions or not. I’m proud to say she cost him money. It bothered me about him, along with many other things over years. But I didn’t object at the time.

My posting history is very public and obvious over there. I defended the man many times but slowly turned over the years as I found more about him, or his public persona.

At the end of the day, unlike you KJ (for reasons I understand), people know me, know how legitimate I am and either like or hate me. But my dislike of Mike and the Wizard is based upon my personal experiences. But doesn’t change my life one way or another. And unlike you, I have no interest in making peace with him. There is no benefit to changing what I know about him.

And I will never understand why you felt it was worth forgiving what he did to you for no reason other than some clown being his “friend”.

[kewlJ]

I’m going to answer you KJ because it’s who I am. But before that I’ll answer your “Let it go” comment as many know, I’m still semi young, rich compared to the average person, bored at times and probably have many years to live while having done more than 99.9% of Americans have done in their lifetime. That’s not bragging, that’s a fact. And yea at times while talking about it, I’m also bitter towards people who think I’m special or entitled.

And maybe you are/ were in the same situation, the anger you had toward the Wiz didn’t affect your earnings or life. And as one who called you out on it, I’m guilty if you were in the sane situation, angry at a little man who at the end of the day didn’t really affect us one way or another.

The answer to the original question is Mike’s wife was never part of it, I believe he never involves her in his “business”. We can assume she lives a separate like with “Mike” from the “Wizard”. It’s obvious that most wives shouldn’t put up with their husbands drooling over models like the Wizard does. But she must believe he is playing a roll like an actor. The Wizard isn’t Mike to her. Mike could never make the statements the Wizard does towards the models he makes videos with.

My wife was part of a meetup with many other members. And Mike, pardon me, the Wizard wanted to bet on and involve her in her games he enjoys so much. He and another member bet if she could answer questions or not. I’m proud to say she cost him money. It bothered me about him, along with many other things over years. But I didn’t object at the time.

My posting history is very public and obvious over there. I defended the man many times but slowly turned over the years as I found more about him, or his public persona.

At the end of the day, unlike you KJ (for reasons I understand), people know me, know how legitimate I am and either like or hate me. But my dislike of Mike and the Wizard is based upon my personal experiences. But doesn’t change my life one way or another. And unlike you, I have no interest in making peace with him. There is no benefit to changing what I know about him.

And I will never understand why you felt it was worth forgiving what he did to you for no reason other than some clown being his “friend”.

Thank you for your response Boz. So his wife had nothing to do with it. She is not responsible in any way for anything Mike does or doesn't do, says or doesn't say, so you really shouldn't involve her.

It seems a little odd to me that this occurred years ago, and now you want have a pissing contest to resolve it but whatever. Do what you need to do.

As for me. I do resent your characterization of my situation. You don't know how I feel or don't feel about Mike. Forgive? I agreed to move forward. And I did so because I don't have a lot of choice. I am an professional advantage player living and playing in Las Vegas. I enjoy participating on a forum and sharing experiences with other advantage players. It is not like I can't do what I do and be successful without a forum to participate on. Many AP never participate on forums, or only participate on private forums. But it is something I enjoy.

For several years, I tried like hell to get Dan Druff to steer this forum back towards gambling, and Las Vegas discussion as per the name of the forum and the main forum section that contain all posts, but he just wouldn't do it. So this forum continued further down the road to what it is, people divided into teams (now mostly political teams) attacking each other over things that have nothing to do with gambling, casinos or Las Vegas that the name suggests.

So unable to reform this forum, I went back to WoV, where there is still some discussion on the topics I prefer and I can still network with some AP's including las Vegas based AP's. I have no idea where you see some sort of close friendship or bond with Mike. He rarely even has any interest or posts on any topic that I am posting about.

I just not a fan of going through life keeping score as to who did what to you, and trying to get even. But my best to you Boz. I hope it works out as you need it to work out.

[MaxPen]

I am available anytime. Tic-toc.....lol
Like I told my buddy that is interested in it. Don't hold your breath. I guess I'll break the news to him tomorrow.

I'm guessing the person you met in the camper park with a Newell isn't going to let you borrow it for the planned charade you've been planning. Prove me wrong.... GOAT

[Rob.Singer]

I am available anytime. Tic-toc.....lol
Like I told my buddy that is interested in it. Don't hold your breath. I guess I'll break the news to him tomorrow.

I'm guessing the person you met in the camper park with a Newell isn't going to let you borrow it for the planned charade you've been planning. Prove me wrong.... GOAT

So weak max. No one "borrows" a Newell.

If you really do have some friend who's interested, I'll have the link posted with the all the details. And we DO have a bet, right? Was it 5 or 10k? I don't read all the bs every day like the rest of your nervous wrecks. Just show up with the cash.

Oh--I don't deal with cowards. ID's required. Feel free to bring your fairy friend kew too.....if you guys can afford the trip. You can watch as someone nearly twice his age slaps him around some. No masks needed. And if you have a Nv. CCW I recommend you take full advantage of it. It's good over here too.

[kewlJ]

No one "borrows" a Newell.

No one goes to a dealership and takes pictures of himself in a RV he doesn't own, pretending it is his either! But you did!

The rest is typical Singer tap dance. Notice he threw in some stipulation about ID now. Singer ALWAYS changes the conditions, usually with something just like this that he thinks will be unacceptable.

Look here are the facts. After years of this bullshit, the owners of two forums, Shackleford and Dan Druff, here, both said it was time for Singer to put up or shut up. That is what lead to the pictures inside an RV at the dealership that he doesn't own. (Check with the people at the dealership...they know all about it). When that didn't work, Singer posted a bogus bill of sale from a company that was out of business at the time, with unreadable signatures all in the same handwriting.

For 8 months Singer pushed this moment of truth back to November and now that November is here, he has pushed it back to next year....A year after owners of the forum said the onus was on him to prove this claim, to put up or shut up. He never ever will provide anything! He never ever does. He never ever has. He just continues on with his troll of his fantasy claims. Anyone still playing along is the fool.