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Thread: Challenge for Mike”The Wizard of Vegas” Shackleford

  1. #21
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    It just goes back to him thinking he is superior to others and loves making fun of those less fortunate or what he considers less intelligent than him.
    Boz, since I am not familiar with the situation, did Mike make fun of your wife directly? or did he make fun of bar maids/waitresses that you took offense at, I guess because your wife is or was one at one time?

    Also was Mikes wife there and part of that making fun? If not I don't see why you would bring her into it?

    Now, for 4 and a half years, YOU and others kept advising me to let my grievances go. I didn't and couldn't but I will still offer your own advice back at you. And I don't suppose you will take it either, but you would be better off just letting this go. Like is too short.

    Now, as for your statement that I quoted above. Again, I don't know anything about this situation, so I am not saying Mike did or didn't do what you claim, but a person who does this kind of thing already exposes themselves as a very insecure, small person. You don't have to do that for them.
    I’m going to answer you KJ because it’s who I am. But before that I’ll answer your “Let it go” comment as many know, I’m still semi young, rich compared to the average person, bored at times and probably have many years to live while having done more than 99.9% of Americans have done in their lifetime. That’s not bragging, that’s a fact. And yea at times while talking about it, I’m also bitter towards people who think I’m special or entitled.

    And maybe you are/ were in the same situation, the anger you had toward the Wiz didn’t affect your earnings or life. And as one who called you out on it, I’m guilty if you were in the sane situation, angry at a little man who at the end of the day didn’t really affect us one way or another.

    The answer to the original question is Mike’s wife was never part of it, I believe he never involves her in his “business”. We can assume she lives a separate like with “Mike” from the “Wizard”. It’s obvious that most wives shouldn’t put up with their husbands drooling over models like the Wizard does. But she must believe he is playing a roll like an actor. The Wizard isn’t Mike to her. Mike could never make the statements the Wizard does towards the models he makes videos with.

    My wife was part of a meetup with many other members. And Mike, pardon me, the Wizard wanted to bet on and involve her in the games he enjoys so much. He and another member bet if she could answer questions or not. I’m proud to say she cost him money. It bothered me about him, along with many other things over years. But I didn’t object at the time.

    My posting history is very public and obvious over there. I defended the man many times but slowly turned over the years as I found more about him, or his public persona.

    At the end of the day, unlike you KJ (for reasons I understand), people know me, know how legitimate I am and either like or hate me. But my dislike of Mike and the Wizard is based upon my personal experiences. But doesn’t change my life one way or another. And unlike you, I have no interest in making peace with him. There is no benefit to changing what I know about him.

    And I will never understand why you felt it was worth forgiving what he did to you for no reason other than some clown being his “friend”.
    Last edited by The Boz; 11-10-2020 at 07:12 PM.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    I’m going to answer you KJ because it’s who I am. But before that I’ll answer your “Let it go” comment as many know, I’m still semi young, rich compared to the average person, bored at times and probably have many years to live while having done more than 99.9% of Americans have done in their lifetime. That’s not bragging, that’s a fact. And yea at times while talking about it, I’m also bitter towards people who think I’m special or entitled.

    And maybe you are/ were in the same situation, the anger you had toward the Wiz didn’t affect your earnings or life. And as one who called you out on it, I’m guilty if you were in the sane situation, angry at a little man who at the end of the day didn’t really affect us one way or another.

    The answer to the original question is Mike’s wife was never part of it, I believe he never involves her in his “business”. We can assume she lives a separate like with “Mike” from the “Wizard”. It’s obvious that most wives shouldn’t put up with their husbands drooling over models like the Wizard does. But she must believe he is playing a roll like an actor. The Wizard isn’t Mike to her. Mike could never make the statements the Wizard does towards the models he makes videos with.

    My wife was part of a meetup with many other members. And Mike, pardon me, the Wizard wanted to bet on and involve her in her games he enjoys so much. He and another member bet if she could answer questions or not. I’m proud to say she cost him money. It bothered me about him, along with many other things over years. But I didn’t object at the time.

    My posting history is very public and obvious over there. I defended the man many times but slowly turned over the years as I found more about him, or his public persona.

    At the end of the day, unlike you KJ (for reasons I understand), people know me, know how legitimate I am and either like or hate me. But my dislike of Mike and the Wizard is based upon my personal experiences. But doesn’t change my life one way or another. And unlike you, I have no interest in making peace with him. There is no benefit to changing what I know about him.

    And I will never understand why you felt it was worth forgiving what he did to you for no reason other than some clown being his “friend”.
    Thank you for your response Boz. So his wife had nothing to do with it. She is not responsible in any way for anything Mike does or doesn't do, says or doesn't say, so you really shouldn't involve her.

    It seems a little odd to me that this occurred years ago, and now you want have a pissing contest to resolve it but whatever. Do what you need to do.

    As for me. I do resent your characterization of my situation. You don't know how I feel or don't feel about Mike. Forgive? I agreed to move forward. And I did so because I don't have a lot of choice. I am an professional advantage player living and playing in Las Vegas. I enjoy participating on a forum and sharing experiences with other advantage players. It is not like I can't do what I do and be successful without a forum to participate on. Many AP never participate on forums, or only participate on private forums. But it is something I enjoy.

    For several years, I tried like hell to get Dan Druff to steer this forum back towards gambling, and Las Vegas discussion as per the name of the forum and the main forum section that contain all posts, but he just wouldn't do it. So this forum continued further down the road to what it is, people divided into teams (now mostly political teams) attacking each other over things that have nothing to do with gambling, casinos or Las Vegas that the name suggests.

    So unable to reform this forum, I went back to WoV, where there is still some discussion on the topics I prefer and I can still network with some AP's including las Vegas based AP's. I have no idea where you see some sort of close friendship or bond with Mike. He rarely even has any interest or posts on any topic that I am posting about.

    I just not a fan of going through life keeping score as to who did what to you, and trying to get even. But my best to you Boz. I hope it works out as you need it to work out.

  3. #23
    Per the usual KJocchio can't see the forest for the tree's. He can't see why the Wiz's wife should be involved. It's because Shack included Boz' wife and was fully ready to ridicule her. Turnabout is fair play. Let's see if Shack's wife can take the heat.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Boz, what's the name of the thread over there?
    I put it in the Alex Trebek thread under an obvious sock and offered it to Mike. He deleted the post and the sock.
    He honestly should just reinstate you. You made ONE really biting post MONTHS ago
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Zk2WAFzDcrJ7pjNB7

    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanantly banned.


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    Wise is knowing a Tomato doesn't belong in a fruit salad.



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  5. #25
    So your wife agreed to his terms and you're pissed at him? Seems you should be pissed at her for her stupidity to get involved.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Per the usual KJocchio can't see the forest for the tree's. He can't see why the Wiz's wife should be involved. It's because Shack included Boz' wife and was fully ready to ridicule her. Turnabout is fair play. Let's see if Shack's wife can take the heat.
    Probably should just leave family out of the online trolling wars. Can you imagine poor Grandpa Newell's wife if someone let her know what he was up to?

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Per the usual KJocchio can't see the forest for the tree's. He can't see why the Wiz's wife should be involved. It's because Shack included Boz' wife and was fully ready to ridicule her. Turnabout is fair play. Let's see if Shack's wife can take the heat.
    Probably should just leave family out of the online trolling wars. Can you imagine poor Grandpa Newell's wife if someone let her know what he was up to?
    Only those with tiresome, unsatisfied obsessive agendas would be worried about what other people are doing or thinking.

    Today my wife is making lasagna. Yesterday she put together this astonishing Indian curried flounder meal with garam masala rice and turmeric/cumin cauliflower. All while I'm doing her family's probate work....in-between visits to the gun range of course.

    She does know what I'm "up to" max, just as much as I do her. This isn't LV, where secrets about financial struggles, social problems, and alcohol abuse permeate most every household.

  8. #28
    Challenging Boz' wife meant Shack was including her whether she wanted to be included or not. If she refused it would be a laughing point for Shack. But it looks like, at least in her case, it backfired on Shack as she did well in the challenge.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Probably should just leave family out of the online trolling wars. Can you imagine poor Grandpa Newell's wife if someone let her know what he was up to?
    I will continue to slander my slant eyed, chink wife who slurps noodles.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Challenging Boz' wife meant Shack was including her whether she wanted to be included or not. If she refused it would be a laughing point for Shack. But it looks like, at least in her case, it backfired on Shack as she did well in the challenge.
    Yea Mick it did, he lost money on his bets. And another member made money off it.

    But you are right, I brought her there with me to collect money from a great member from an opportunity I got involved in. A member who always treated me more than fairly and I respect to the end of time.

    She did go along because she wasn’t expecting it and didn’t want to disappoint me. And I went along with it. But she is a big girl and it still bothers me more than it did her. She was proud she knew every answer but one. That said, it bothered me and only showed me who the “Wizard” was. As I learned and observed more about him over the years, it made more sense.

    That all said, the challenge stands, my $20k against his. $10k per head to head contest.

  11. #31
    And here is a picture of the offer posted at his site.

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  12. #32
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Probably should just leave family out of the online trolling wars. Can you imagine poor Grandpa Newell's wife if someone let her know what he was up to?
    I will continue to slander my slant eyed, chink wife who slurps noodles.
    We would expect nothing less.

  13. #33
    Boz, I'm curious, what kind of questions does this wizard person ask service people/wives in order to humiliate them?
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Boz, I'm curious, what kind of questions does this wizard person ask service people/wives in order to humiliate them?
    I remember reading them over the years but don’t have them all. To me they are basically easy to most of us questions that he sets odds on if they will know them or not. Here is a couple from years ago.

    “ First, I should correct one of the Wizard's comments -- I did not win any money on waitress wagers, in part because I didn't participate in any of them.

    I do recall these two questions being asked of the MSS waitress, both of which she answered correctly:
    (1) What were the first names of the Three Stooges?
    (2) Whose picture appears on the $100 bill?

    Yes, the Wizard wagered on the "won't get it right" side of that and lost to some other attendees. After I had retrieved my wife and met up again with the Wizard and gofaster87 for dinner, they said that they had been discussing whether I would know the answer to a particular trivia question. I did know it, but they never said whether the two of them had wagered on that. There were discussions about possible questions for the waiter, but none were ever wagered on”

  15. #35
    Boz, have you looked up the definition of trivia? Something about information having little or no value. No doubt from the word "trivial" or vise versa.

    It used to be that people that knew all these useless pieces of information that as the definition says.....has no real value, were the ones looked down on as idiots for bothering to know such useless things. So to me the loser of a trivia contest or competition is the person that knows the most "useless stuff". So what you are considering a slight....is really a compliment.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Boz, have you looked up the definition of trivia? Something about information having little or no value. No doubt from the word "trivial" or vise versa.

    It used to be that people that knew all these useless pieces of information that as the definition says.....has no real value, were the ones looked down on as idiots for bothering to know such useless things. So to me the loser of a trivia contest or competition is the person that knows the most "useless stuff". So what you are considering a slight....is really a compliment.
    False premise to set up a false conclusion.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #37
    I can tell you definitively that Mike is not asking questions to humiliate anyone. I have been involved with many sessions of his questions to waitresses. A question is posed to the group of us and if we like it we will bet and give odds to each other on whether the server will get it correct or not. It is all about gambling with each other. One server said she was going to nursing school so the question posed was would she know what DNA stands for. We all made bets with each other then asked her. I believe on that question she did not get it correct.

    I am pretty sure I lost $20 on that one as I thought she would know it.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    I have been involved with many sessions of his questions to waitresses.
    I don't like your attitude.

    I offer the Boz challenge to you...$10K me vs you, and $10K my wife vs yours.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    I have been involved with many sessions of his questions to waitresses.
    I don't like your attitude.

    I offer the Boz challenge to you...$10K me vs you, and $10K my wife vs yours.
    My wife would do well but I would not. I am not very good at trivia.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    My wife would do well but I would not. I am not very good at trivia.
    Let me know when you all are going to jump off that bridge together.
    I may want to join the party, for the experience of course.

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