Personally see no point in making a lot of money while living like a peasant. I have no idea if I'll wake up tomorrow.
Also, another reason I think it might be mail and promos is he mentioned that they don’t need ploppies to put machines in advantageous states.
So if its not mail and promos (with say high payback VP) it would have to be machines you could just jump on anytime and have an advantage. If those exist then “M” is probably not going to share that information and also be ok with him going on a podcast listened to be mostly APs in case he slipped and spilled the beans.
Something like that would be a closely held secret i would think.
Another clue was when he talked about banks of machines that can’t be held and people would put their jackets on them to hold them on the honor system. Sounds like a bunch of pros working promos at a high payback VP bank. (Or with a Progressive making it plus EV,)
But hey what do I know lol? All speculation.
EVBandit/Ex-AP/13BucksanHourAP, it isn't my formula and it is not wrong. Check any of the thousands of statistics books on the subject if you don't believe me.
Since a wager saver bet wins with probability (amount won on bet which induced the wager saver/original bet size which induced the wager saver bet) where the amount won is a positive non-zero number less than the original bet size. The E(V) calculation is not incorrect. Please do not take my word for it. Look up the definition of expected value along with how the Wager Saver bet is calculated (Scientific Games/WMS website) if you don't believe me.
Last edited by tableplay; 11-23-2020 at 05:50 AM.
That video shows that I'm correct and you're wrong, thanks.
7 minutes 57 seconds into the video -
$4.64 Wager Saver bet is placed and won resulting in a $6 spin
$6 spin results in a $2.76 base spin win and a bonus win of $72 for a $74.76 win
Machine credits after win - $74.76
The $4.64 bet is lost - it is not retuned like you claim. Show me where those $4.64 in wager saver credits are returned to player when he wins the wager saver?
You're welcome. I had stated that the Wager Saver exploration was conjecture (https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post115465) and the conjecture was wrong:
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