Here you go AxelWolf

[AxelWolf]

Summary would be? This drunken low end street educated hustler is in no position to challenge or question anything.

Said the anonymous guy on the internet.

[blackhole]

MDawg, can you quickly summarize your issues with Axel? I don't want to see a bunch of quotes and screen shots. Simply explain what your problem is with him, and where you feel he's being dishonest.

We'll go from there. Thanks.

MDawg, if I were you I'd just walk away from this. Trust me when I tell you Dan is not your friend. I've been banned from a few threads when Dan decides to protect a friend he feels is under duress. After all it is his forum. So be it. They most likely talk about you when Dan and Axel are riding around in Dan's car. Dan usually don't interfere in many threads. I'd take his sudden post of interest in this thread as a warning before the hammer hits and you're banned from this thread.

[MisterV]

DeputyDawg wants people to take him at his word.

OK, fine: his word is "bullshit."

That this fraud is still allowed to prance around the forums filling minds with mush baffles me.

jbjb nailed it, comparing this bufoon to Singer: Mike and Dan welcome these bullshit artists because it draws views to their sites, and forum members respond to them much like flies to a spider's web.

To summarize: If something sounds too good to be true, it isn't.

[Dan Druff]

I'm not going to ban MDawg from a thread where he's one of the two major participants. That's absolutely not going to happen here.

This thread has been around for awhile, but every time I tried to read it, I would become bored and confused by it. There's just too much clutter and nonsense. That's why I asked for a summary.

MDawg, let's forget Axel's credibility (or lack thereof) at the moment. Is his summary of your claims true? Or are there things in his summary which you never claimed?

By the way, I have to imagine I'll be getting the vaccine fairly soon, and after the required 6 weeks pass following it, I'll probably visit Las Vegas soon after. If you'd like to demonstrate any of your claims to me in person, I will not require any money to be bet on them, and I'll be willing to give you my word that I won't disclose your identity or anything other personal info. So if you'd like to prove some of these things, I will be happy to do it with you.

I simply want the truth to be told. I don't care if it favors you or Axel.

[monet]

I'm not going to ban MDawg from a thread where he's one of the two major participants. That's absolutely not going to happen here.

This thread has been around for awhile, but every time I tried to read it, I would become bored and confused by it. There's just too much clutter and nonsense. That's why I asked for a summary.

MDawg, let's forget Axel's credibility (or lack thereof) at the moment. Is his summary of your claims true? Or are there things in his summary which you never claimed?

By the way, I have to imagine I'll be getting the vaccine fairly soon, and after the required 6 weeks pass following it, I'll probably visit Las Vegas soon after. If you'd like to demonstrate any of your claims to me in person, I will not require any money to be bet on them, and I'll be willing to give you my word that I won't disclose your identity or anything other personal info. So if you'd like to prove some of these things, I will be happy to do it with you.

I simply want the truth to be told. I don't care if it favors you or Axel.

The shot will not save you.
The virus is mutating.
We are all doomed.
Repent.

[MDawg]

I tried reading through this thread, and just couldn't get into it.

There's a ton of rambling, and no real coherent accusations. Also there's a bunch of WoV drama which I really don't care about.

MDawg, can you quickly summarize your issues with Axel? I don't want to see a bunch of quotes and screen shots. Simply explain what your problem is with him, and where you feel he's being dishonest.

We'll go from there. Thanks.

I can sum it up for you. MDwag has made a bunch of outlandish claims. It's not just one outlandish claim that is unbelievable, it's the totality of everything. I called BS, and it was on.

I'll give you the gist. He claims to be a high-priced attorney. He claims he was getting paid legal fees from his clients in Bitcoin back in like 2010(I can recall the exact year) he said he has been acquiring and holding ever since. He hasn't said exactly how much he has, but it would equate to 10's of millions now. The funny thing is, he didn't even know how bitcoin worked. There's some evidence of this, but let's move on.

He claims he always wins playing baccarat, he claims he is not using any advantage play, he's just using a system that relies on streaks knowing when to get in and out, meanwhile getting RFB for months at higher-end resorts.

He claims he always wins in the stock market while trading 100's of shares at a time of companies like Tesla and Amazon.

He wants people to pony up 50k on deposit or credit at a casino for the honor of watching him play.

He makes Big Bluff bets that no one smart would consider since they have CON written all over them.

Mike told Mdawg to put up or shut up. MDwag couldn't even come up with 5k just to prove he could pay a challenge that he offered. I put up at least 10k with Mike, it may have been more I was willing to put up more. but, it seems he has backtracked on that. I can only assume the M dog whined, cried, and bitched in a multitude of private messages that made Mike's head spin. To be honest, I think Mike was confused and had no idea what was actually going on since he doesn't read all the posts it seems like he's basically getting his information from whatever PM'S comes in.

MDwag has claimed he wanted to meet up with Mike, it's been years and Mdwag has been to Vegas numerous times and has managed to not yet meet anyone.

He does post pictures of chips, rooms, cash Rolexes, etc, and even has some convincing evidence that would fool the average person. But we have been there before with another baccarat player very similar to MDawg who was posting up pictures of his boss's life and claimed it as his own.

I'm not going to ban MDawg from a thread where he's one of the two major participants. That's absolutely not going to happen here.

This thread has been around for awhile, but every time I tried to read it, I would become bored and confused by it. There's just too much clutter and nonsense. That's why I asked for a summary.

MDawg, let's forget Axel's credibility (or lack thereof) at the moment. Is his summary of your claims true? Or are there things in his summary which you never claimed?

By the way, I have to imagine I'll be getting the vaccine fairly soon, and after the required 6 weeks pass following it, I'll probably visit Las Vegas soon after. If you'd like to demonstrate any of your claims to me in person, I will not require any money to be bet on them, and I'll be willing to give you my word that I won't disclose your identity or anything other personal info. So if you'd like to prove some of these things, I will be happy to do it with you.

I simply want the truth to be told. I don't care if it favors you or Axel.

Dan, as long as you went to the effort to ask, and as long as AW went to the monumental effort of writing something longer than a sentence, I suppose I should respond.

Although you asked me to set aside AxelWolf’s credibility for my response, I have to state that I believe that there are two reasons why AW has issues with me and many others on forums all across the internet:

1) I believe he has an attention deficit disorder and is a very poor reader. I doubt he reads or comprehends more than 20% of any long post made at these forums. By misreading or failing to read most of what is posted, he runs off half cocked with his own interpretation of what happened or is being said.
2) He is a street based con man, including always on the lookout for what he may hustle out of casinos, and imparts this sort of confidence trickster attitude into any associations he has – i.e., assumes that because he’s a con, that everyone else must be too.

All right, so the background on me in case you didn’t know is that I used to be a much higher average bet player, around 3000 average bet, years ago. I had a trip where I won mid six figures, many trips where I won low six figures, and many trips where I won or lost low to mid five figures. Finally I got sick of the up and down, quit while way ahead, and gave up gaming completely for about a decade. During that time I finished law school, and developed my businesses that have only indirectly to do with law, sold a couple of my businesses and retained a stream of income from a few, and basically didn’t even think about casinos although I’d still visit Vegas and Tahoe constantly with my girlfriends at the time, but never play – not even a penny.

In 2018, now married and perhaps with too much money on my hands, I decided to give gaming a try again. I talked it over with friends and family, and decided that this time around – with Vegas 2.0 – that I would just play for fun, essentially for comps, and that all that was going to matter was staying ahead – that I would no longer be going for the constant “home runs” as in the past.

For whatever reason, this has worked out and I have not had a losing trip since 2018, and we go to Vegas – a few trips (mostly extended ones) a year. I am in Vegas right now playing, have been here a week, and am up +33K at this moment.

AW throws around a lot of numbers and seems to be panicked about what my net worth might or might not be, but I have never claimed anything specific nor would I ever. If he wants to sweat over what I might or might not have, that’s his obsession and problem.

To summarize “AW’s issue with me” – he initially seemed to think that whatever I posted was completely fabricated, but has now settled into this belief that everything may be genuine but that it must be being posted/lived by some “other MDawg” some other person who is other than I.

If you take the time to look over these two Wagers I proposed:

250K Wager
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...rs/#post796763

500K wager
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...12/#post797552

I think you will see exactly what AW thinks is untrue. As far as that second wager, AW said something about my transferring some bitcoin to show good faith (versus the cashier's checks I outlined in the Wagers), and I stated I was willing to transfer the entire half million at risk in the wager up front in bitcoin to the Wizard for him to hold for that Wager. So it’s not just that I am talking, but willing to back up what I claim with serious money wagers. While it may seem odd that anyone on the ‘net would wager such sums with an unknown party, both wagers are a lock because I know what I post is true, and these two wagers remain open for AW to pick up anytime before the end of this month.

[blackhole]

I simply want the truth to be told. I don't care if it favors you or Axel.

LOL ... You are a funny guy Dan.

[MisterV]

In 2018, now married and perhaps with too much money on my hands, I decided to give gaming a try again.

Ah, the truth at last: you MARRIED into money.

While you're gambling away her inheritance she's blowing the pool boy: apt.

[AxelWolf]

I'm not going to ban MDawg from a thread where he's one of the two major participants. That's absolutely not going to happen here.

This thread has been around for awhile, but every time I tried to read it, I would become bored and confused by it. There's just too much clutter and nonsense. That's why I asked for a summary.

MDawg, let's forget Axel's credibility (or lack thereof) at the moment. Is his summary of your claims true? Or are there things in his summary which you never claimed?

By the way, I have to imagine I'll be getting the vaccine fairly soon, and after the required 6 weeks pass following it, I'll probably visit Las Vegas soon after. If you'd like to demonstrate any of your claims to me in person, I will not require any money to be bet on them, and I'll be willing to give you my word that I won't disclose your identity or anything other personal info. So if you'd like to prove some of these things, I will be happy to do it with you.

I simply want the truth to be told. I don't care if it favors you or Axel.

Dan, as long as you went to the effort to ask, and as long as AW went to the monumental effort of writing something longer than a sentence, I suppose I should respond.

Although you asked me to set aside AxelWolf’s credibility for my response, I have to state that I believe that there are two reasons why AW has issues with me and many others on forums all across the internet:

1) I believe he has an attention deficit disorder and is a very poor reader. I doubt he reads or comprehends more than 20% of any long post made at these forums. By misreading or failing to read most of what is posted, he runs off half cocked with his own interpretation of what happened or is being said.
2) He is a street based con man, including always on the lookout for what he may hustle out of casinos, and imparts this sort of confidence trickster attitude into any associations he has – i.e., assumes that because he’s a con, that everyone else must be too.

All right, so the background on me in case you didn’t know is that I used to be a much higher average bet player, around 3000 average bet, years ago. I had a trip where I won mid six figures, many trips where I won low six figures, and many trips where I won or lost low to mid five figures. Finally I got sick of the up and down, quit while way ahead, and gave up gaming completely for about a decade. During that time I finished law school, and developed my businesses that have only indirectly to do with law, sold a couple of my businesses and retained a stream of income from a few, and basically didn’t even think about casinos although I’d still visit Vegas and Tahoe constantly with my girlfriends at the time, but never play – not even a penny.

In 2018, now married and perhaps with too much money on my hands, I decided to give gaming a try again. I talked it over with friends and family, and decided that this time around – with Vegas 2.0 – that I would just play for fun, essentially for comps, and that all that was going to matter was staying ahead – that I would no longer be going for the constant “home runs” as in the past.

For whatever reason, this has worked out and I have not had a losing trip since 2018, and we go to Vegas – a few trips (mostly extended ones) a year. I am in Vegas right now playing, have been here a week, and am up +33K at this moment.

AW throws around a lot of numbers and seems to be panicked about what my net worth might or might not be, but I have never claimed anything specific nor would I ever. If he wants to sweat over what I might or might not have, that’s his obsession and problem.

To summarize “AW’s issue with me” – he initially seemed to think that whatever I posted was completely fabricated, but has now settled into this belief that everything may be genuine but that it must be being posted/lived by some “other MDawg” some other person who is other than I.

If you take the time to look over these two Wagers I proposed:

250K Wager
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...rs/#post796763

500K wager
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...12/#post797552

I think you will see exactly what AW thinks is untrue. As far as that second wager, AW said something about my transferring some bitcoin to show good faith (versus the cashier's checks I outlined in the Wagers), and I stated I was willing to transfer the entire half million at risk in the wager up front in bitcoin to the Wizard for him to hold for that Wager. So it’s not just that I am talking, but willing to back up what I claim with serious money wagers. While it may seem odd that anyone on the ‘net would wager such sums with an unknown party, both wagers are a lock because I know what I post is true, and these two wagers remain open for AW to pick up anytime before the end of this month.

It's amazing that a never losing, high rolling, Rolls Royce multi Rolex wearing, high-priced attorney, bigwig stock trader, baccarat aficionado who has 10 of millions in BTC alone, seem to care what(according to you) the..the attention-deficit disordered, very poor reader, uneducated, low rolling drunken AxelWolf says. You have started 3 - 5 threads about me(or has it been more?), you talk about me on multiple forums including one I rarely ever go to(including your very own?). You even take the time to pick through old posts while taking screenshots and then repost them. The only reasonable conclusion why you have spent soo much time on me(Not to mention the countless other people you coral with on almost a daily basis) would be that I have come close to the truth with my theories and that's really stuck in your craw.

Let me know when you have anything other than words on the internet, let me know when you have actually met someone that can verify you are not full of shit, let me know when you have actually ever helped anyone from the forums IRL.

[kewlJ]

So MDawg posts this fantasy stuff on numerous forum and now both Wizard and Dan Druff have requested to meet him and observe his play. He refused wizard and will refuse Druff as well.

But it is very appropriate for these forum owners who provide the platform for this "adventure" to say "ENOUGH...show me".

[MisterV]

The thing is, the lying fop doesn't violate any rules, as there are no rules prohibiting lying.

His detractors, in their zeal to unmask this fraud, do occasionally go too far and get suspended, which is what this asshat is all about.

While it would be best to ignore this lying sack of shit it is tough not to stare at this puss filled zit the size of an egg as it pops open and oozes all over the forums.

[BoSox]

In 2018, now married and perhaps with too much money on my hands, I decided to give gaming a try again.

Ah, the truth at last: you MARRIED into money.

While you're gambling away her inheritance she's blowing the pool boy: apt.

Over the top MisterV. Uncalled for, there are other ways such as ignore, ignore, ignore.

[Dan Druff]

MDawg, here's the problem with your bets:

Everyone knows that you will only go through with the bet if you can beat them, so it's a negative freeroll for them. Either you'll be able to show the proof and collect $250k from them, or you won't, and you will find a way to back out of it, once it comes to putting up the money. So their only upside is proving an anonymous forum guy wrong, and their downside is losing 250k! Not a good deal!

That's the problem with prohibitively large "I can prove this to you" bets. The other side is always afraid to risk the money, knowing that there's zero chance you'll actually put up the money if on the losing end, so they become afraid to make the bet.

I'll give you an example.

Let's say I came out here and announced that I text with Donald Trump at least once per week. Most people here wouldn't believe me.

Let's say I offered to a $250k bet that I could prove Donald Trump texts me a minimum of once per week.

I doubt anyone would take such a bet, knowing I'd only be putting up $250k if I could really prove I texted with Trump!

Does this mean I text with Trump? Obviously not. It just means that I'm challenging people to bet a huge sum of money over a fact which only I know is true or not.


This is why I am proposing to drop all of the betting nonsense, and simply meet up and see the proof. This will end the controversy both here and on WoV once and for all.

Will you do this?

[AxelWolf]

MDawg, here's the problem with your bets:

Everyone knows that you will only go through with the bet if you can beat them, so it's a negative freeroll for them. Either you'll be able to show the proof and collect $250k from them, or you won't, and you will find a way to back out of it, once it comes to putting up the money. So their only upside is proving an anonymous forum guy wrong, and their downside is losing 250k! Not a good deal!

That's the problem with prohibitively large "I can prove this to you" bets. The other side is always afraid to risk the money, knowing that there's zero chance you'll actually put up the money if on the losing end, so they become afraid to make the bet.

I'll give you an example.

Let's say I came out here and announced that I text with Donald Trump at least once per week. Most people here wouldn't believe me.

Let's say I offered to a $250k bet that I could prove Donald Trump texts me a minimum of once per week.

I doubt anyone would take such a bet, knowing I'd only be putting up $250k if I could really prove I texted with Trump!

Does this mean I text with Trump? Obviously not. It just means that I'm challenging people to bet a huge sum of money over a fact which only I know is true or not.


This is why I am proposing to drop all of the betting nonsense, and simply meet up and see the proof. This will end the controversy both here and on WoV once and for all.

Will you do this?

FYI MDawg made it very clear regarding the 250k stock trade bet that he would prove the trades were real, but not that the trades/money funds, or however you want to put it, is his.

[MDawg]

Dan, I am not sure I understand what you are saying. I am willing to put up the money for the wagers, including by transferring the full sum in bitcoin up front to the Wizard to hold.

I no longer deign to respond to anything AW, and a good many others, have to say, if you haven't noticed.

[Dan Druff]

If you want to put up money on your own, that's great.

But the bets you're proposing are hindering the verification. Because if you can't find someone to put up $250k on the other side, that conveniently excuses you from having to prove anything.

I am stating that nobody should put up any money. You should just meet someone (I will volunteer), and prove these items. Then this person can come back and report whether you sufficiently proved your claims to them.

Simple, right?

[MDawg]

I am interested in proving myself to anyone who challenges my veracity if it is worth my time and effort. AW challenged that. He will have to pay for the insult, and the privilege of being proven wrong - if not, he may go about his way being ignored. The way I look at it, he's not anyone I know or trust. I have to waste my time meeting him to prove something to someone that many on here say is a con man not to be trusted? If I'm going to do that, and have somebody whom I view as a con man obtain my identity, it has to be more than worth it to me. So that's as far as AW.

As far as you, for some reason I thought you lived in Vegas? I am not sure I'll still be in Vegas in six weeks, as we arrived about a week ago. We may still be here through the end of April, but not much past then. My wife and I are both vaccinated.

[coach belly]

You should just meet someone (I will volunteer), and prove these items. Then this person can come back and report whether you sufficiently proved your claims to them.

If MDawg proves his claims to Dan's satisfaction, then shouldn't there be some comeuppance for the members who have insisted that his claims are fake?

What if the doubters refuse to accept Dan's findings, and continue to harass and insult MDawg over his claims, shouldn't there be some kind of penalty or retribution?

Otherwise the dispute remains unresolved, and Dan is labeled as an unreliable judge, duped by MDawg, or even an MDawg confederate.

Several of the doubters have already expressed that there is no evidence MDawg can produce that will convince them that the claims are true, nor any judge's opinion that they would accept.

There needs to be some humble pie to be served as a result of this judging exercise...some teeth behind the judge's decision.

Lost money would be the most humbling, that's why there needs to be a bet.

[MisterV]

The notion of a nay-sayer having to bet a quarter million dollars to induce someone to "prove" their claim is silly; he claims he's an attorney, and no attorney has to pay anything other than a token filing fee to a court clerk in order to have the opportunity to submit a dispute to an impartial arbiter for decision.

I believe that he doesn't want anyone to learn anything about him or his claims as it would then be "game over" for him, he'd be buried and dismissed as yet another internet fraud.

I also question whether Dan watching a few hours of casino play would be enough to definitively say whether his claims are true, given the potential for variance.

Regardless, I believe that he won't accept any such challenge.

His claim holds no more water than alan's "eighteen yo's in a row."

He "never loses at baccarat?"

Really?

That claim of his is the basis for my objection: it is for all practical purposes an impossible assertion.

The reality is that I believe he'll not go through with a bet, nor with a meet and greet, same as with Singer and the Newell.

Let the tap dancing continue while some of the crowd politely clap and others hurl rotten cabbage at him: he seems to like it, actually.

Were I the arbiter I'd want to look at his tax returns for the past couple years to see how he handled his claimed winnings, tax-wise: I'd want to see both the returns themselves as well as proof of payment of the tax due on his claimed winnings, that would be a start.

Follow that with hm providing verification of sums on deposit in the bank or elsewhere in his name, sums sufficient to comforably and realistically support his claimed level of regular casino play; were he to show on his tax returns that he claimed and paid tax on a large amount of winnings for years in a row and also that he had access to over ten million in funds then and now then I might, just might, start to come around, and if the proof is sufficient I would apologize and admit I was wrong.

[coach belly]

He "never loses at baccarat?"

He hasn't claimed that.

I'd want to look at his tax returns for the past couple years to see how he handled his claimed winnings, tax-wise: I'd want to see both the returns themselves as well as proof of payment of the tax due on his claimed winnings, that would be a start.

For something like that, MDawg requires you to start by agreeing to a wager.

That is a totally reasonable requirement.