Here you go AxelWolf

[MisterV]

V, if you want to get right down to it, you arrested the path of your alcoholism before it got worse. But then you substituted a drug (marijuana) that allows a person to use it, even use it constantly, but have far fewer deleterious effects health wise.

You disagree with that assessment?

Yes, absolutely, I disagree.

I did not substitute cannabis for alcohol.

I've smoked weed pretty much continuously since I was fifteen.

When I quit drinking I don't recall elevating my pot consumption...slow and steady as she goes.

Nor did I substitute gambling for alcolhol: I'd been gambling regularly for awhile before giving up John Barleycorn.

[MDawg]

Toward the end I was pounding Gilbey's gin.

[MDawg]

And then we have UNKewlJ. His addiction is to lying. He can't stop lying. He can't even acknowledge his lies except via other lies.

Guess who said this UNKewlJ?

He's pretty much a pathological liar you can't believe anything he says. But also probably a sociopath and they have no guilt no shame no embarrassment. They simply make up lies to cover the other lies.

Could it be perhaps that well known AP you used to think is on your side?

But it was so well said I decided to just adopt it for myself.

[MDawg]

V, if you want to get right down to it, you arrested the path of your alcoholism before it got worse. But then you substituted a drug (marijuana) that allows a person to use it, even use it constantly, but have far fewer deleterious effects health wise.

You disagree with that assessment?

Yes, absolutely, I disagree.

I did not substitute cannabis for alcohol.

I've smoke weed pretty much continuously since I was fifteen.

When I quit drinking I don't recall elevating my pot consumption...slow and steady as she goes.

Nor did I substitute gambling for alcolhol: I'd been gambling regularly for awhile before giving up John Barleycorn.

The way addiction works is it sometimes morphs into another addiction. The fact that you've always been smoking that marijuana doesn't mean that you didn't substitute one substance for another when you quit drinking. It does mean that you satisfied your addiction/alcoholism through something or other at all times.

But you must have thought about why you drank so much and why you had to stop? Yes alcohol is physically habit forming versus marijuana may not be, but still, the fact that you drank to excess means something. Do you think it means nothing?

Also, does it mean nothing that you've been smoking that stuff all your life?


I think your argument is something along the lines of the Winston Churchill argument of that he more or less functioned all his life, even as as drunk (also, he'd wake up sober while the woman who told him he was drunk one time, would wake up still ugly, if you've heard that story). But he was still an alcoholic.

Hitler Couldn't Defeat Churchill, But Champagne Nearly Did

Following Winston Churchill’s routine for a day

[MisterV]

Interesting, food for thought...

By jove...fact is, I took up cannabis smoking about the same time I lost all interest in and stopped attending mass at the Catholic Church, aka "the opium of the people."

Up to that point my parents dictated my life choices, but after that I started to think and act for myself.

I've no real regrets.

[MisterV]

Also, does it mean nothing that you've been smoking that stuff all your life?

I'll gladly answer that after you answer the question I asked you above as to whether you believe you are a gambling addict or have a gambling problem.

After all, this is a gambling forum, not an NA meeting.

[coach belly]

Toward the end I was pounding Gilbey's gin.

Top shelf.

[kewlJ]

And then we have UNKewlJ. His addiction is to lying.

I was waiting for mdawg to come back around to me. I knew he couldn't stay away for long.

Look, this entire thread is Mdawg smearing and trying to discredit the members that have questioned and challenged his silly story. Nothing more.

Anyone not seeing this is someone who doesn't want to look.

This is what he has done for 5 years now. You challenge or question his story....he smears you.

[MisterV]

Yes, and he dodges personal questions: we know.

That's one reason why he's such a hoot.

This guy pictures himself like god in heaven, ensconced in the clouds, tossing thunderbolts at we mere mortals.

Meanwhile we eat mushrooms and dance our lives away...

[MDawg]

Also, does it mean nothing that you've been smoking that stuff all your life?

I'll gladly answer that after you answer the question I asked you above as to whether you believe you are a gambling addict or have a gambling problem.

After all, this is a gambling forum, not an NA meeting.

I've posted more than once, here and at WOV, that when I resumed casino play about five years ago, after a decade or so hiatus, that my initial intention was just to play enough to get comps. I wrote about how pre-hiatus I had gotten to an average bet of around $3000. per hand.

When I started up again, I didn't need the money and still don't.

Somewhere along the way I did start betting more and more, until, the past couple years, I far surpassed the levels at which I had ever played.

I would say that if this increased betting resulted in increased losing, and I did not stop, that would definitely be gambling addiction.

But the increased betting did not result in increased losing.

However what the increased betting did result in, is increased stress due to the inevitable lofty ups and downs. I have written more than once over especially the past year or so about how I don't enjoy that stress. And that alone could be construed as a negative thing, a bad thing. I mean, who needs that sort of stress? if it's not part of one's occupation.

Now, the crossroads I am at now, or have been at for a little while now, is, if I don't need to do it, and don't even enjoy it at times, why continue? I'd say that if I keep playing at these levels given the increased stress that I definitely don't appreciate, that could be construed as something along the path to abuse or addiction.

I would also add that that "stress" is at least part of what gambling addicts crave, the risk taking adrenalin. And the more risked, the greater the adrenalin rush. So, I'd have to say that especially since I don't appreciate the stress, if I keep up with it, that might indicate some sort of wired the wrong way addiction to the practice, win or lose. One sign of addiction is keeping up with a practice (habit) even after it is no longer or not always fun.


Here is what I wrote at WOV about a month ago:

Much earlier this year I posted about how the ups and downs were starting to get to me, and that I was thinking of easing back on the play or even stopping. Then I had a big win trip and of course, that idea went out the window.

Now, closing in on exactly five years of play since the big long hiatus I took, looking back I definitely didn't stick to my initial intention which was to play just enough for comps. I started with all $50K lines, and then around two years ago or so I increased them to the levels where I could get private tables, and raised them even more after that.

I still don't like the ups and downs. I actually haven't even played in several days, which I take breaks like that every now and then in Vegas, but I don't plan to play again this week. Been seeing different parts of Vegas and its environs with the wife lately.

I can't imagine playing small again, don't think I could do it. So, for me the choice would be to either just stop playing entirely, or keep playing big. I'd be fine with either scenario.
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It depends on the game. Blackjack is a lot of work (for me). The intensity I am putting into not just the count but keeping track of every card out and remaining and what it means can be exhausting.

Baccarat I am tracking something else, but more looking for those advantage hands, so the over all intensity is less because there are many hands where I probably don't know any more about the outcome than anyone else.

Anyway for some time now, there are days when I go to play and think about how great this is, and other days when I go in thinking how much I hate it. I don't know if that makes sense, but it comes down to that this isn't all I can do. I suppose if this were my living then I'd never consider easing up or stopping. Certainly if I didn't win consistently I would have stopped years ago.

[MisterV]

Thank you for the seemingly candid self-assessment.

[MDawg]

P.S. You have to understand that UNKewlJ is a one trick pony. You point out that he's a no good thieving lying varmint, and he always comes back with, "You're saying that to make yourself look better."

Nay, I'm saying that because it's true.

[accountinquestion]

Thank you for the seemingly candid self-assessment.

He is clearly an addict if we apply the criteria he uses against him. A hard drinker vs hard gambler. Dude has been gambling relentlessly for quite some time.

Off the top of my head there are 2 types of problem gamblers. The guys that can't stop and somehow think they're going to win in the long-run. (Which is what mdawg seems to be.. I don't for a second believe he is a winning player but that isn't even worth arguing) The other guy is the one who just likes bet big enough to really feel it. I basically have to bet a purple to get a thrill but I meh I'm so over gambling for no purpose. To do it consistently and outside of going with your friends seems to be at the very least knocking on addiction's door.

It is quite ironic. He tells us we're in denial but this board is full of professional and semi-professional gamblers and not a one of them believes Mdawg beats baccarat like he claims. I know you can count it down to the very bottom card and bet big but that sorta stuff is known. He can claim all he wants and hide behind his NDA but lets be honest - he is presenting his losses as wins. No one here reads Kewl going on about it because no one else gives a shit.

This is basic addictive behavior. It is quite ironic that the view he takes on alcoholics. Frankly I don't care if he is a problem gambler. I've seen then and known them.

[MDawg]

Remains true:

AccountinQuestion, MickeyCrimm, AxelWolf, MisterV - seems like the alcoholics are practically in the majority of the active posters.

Being functional doesn’t remove the alcoholism. Which it doesn’t sound like Wolf is all that functional when drinking.


UNKewlJ where has his compulsive lying gotten him? His addiction has gotten him booted out his own house and hustling Pahrump style ever since. That’s not functional.

[kewlJ]

It is quite ironic. He tells us we're in denial but this board is full of professional and semi-professional gamblers and not a one of them believes Mdawg beats baccarat like he claims. I know you can count it down to the very bottom card and bet big but that sorta stuff is known. He can claim all he wants and hide behind his NDA but lets be honest - he is presenting his losses as wins. No one here reads Kewl going on about it because no one else gives a shit.

Lol. Should I quote this a million times like Mdawg would. AinQ, you have just crushed the dawg. He will no doubt step up his smearing of you now. Oh look, he already has.

AinQ, who are you to say nobody but me gives a shit. MrV, Axelwolf, PositiveVariance, Half Smoke/little Red Rooster, all members of this forum give a shit. Like me, all have called Mdawg out for years and MrV, Axelwolf, Half Smoke have all been subject to multiple suspensions at WoV for doing so.

And who are you to say no one believes him. in addition to yourself who fairly recently said you believed him. MaxPen and Seedvalue, two members here have even more recently both claimed they believe Mdawg was doing something very advanced that accounted for all the winning.

Now if you guys were just playing and being dishonest as you tend to do, well that is on you. Yeah that is just hilarious. Problem is it encourages and enables the great "Pope of Las Vegas".

[MDawg]

P.S. You have to understand that UNKewlJ is a one trick pony. You point out that he's a no good thieving lying varmint, and he always comes back with, "You're saying that to make yourself look better."

Nay, I'm saying that because it's true.

[MDawg]

HalfSmoke. Lilredrooster.

He’s an alcoholic. Guy has to white knuckle it all week just to drink his allotment every Saturday. But I think he might be wise enough to stop even that controlled drinking.

He recognized some kind of gambling problem and says he quit that entirely. Unless he decides to get his fix on that once a week too.

[kewlJ]

but this board is full of professional and semi-professional gamblers and not a one of them believes Mdawg beats baccarat like he claims. ...but lets be honest - he is presenting his losses as wins.

One trick pony hun? This year my income comes from 4 different methods of advantage play and blackjack card counting accounts for just barely 50%.

And each of those other 3 streams of advantage play income each account for more money that you have really won.

Wealthy or not, higher limit play or now, you are just another, long-term losing player. Some of the guys here may have found it fun to enable and encourage you, but like AinQ just said you just aren't fooling anyone here. AND you aren't fooling anyone at WoV either. That is why almost no one even responds to your thread anymore.

[MDawg]

AccountInQuestion all that really matters is whether you recognize your own problems and do something about them. If you don’t think you have a problem - fine keep drinking or whatever else you might be taking.

But don’t be an UNKewl sociopath in denial. You can see how awful and UNKewl an existence that can be.

[kewlJ]

HalfSmoke. Lilredrooster.

He’s an alcoholic.

See the patten and problem here? Every single person, and there have been dozens, all real players, that has ever called your silly story and claims out is an alcoholic, mentally ill and a liar.