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Thread: My issue with AxelWolf

  1. #21
    I'm thinking someone should start the Finding Mdawgs 5k thread.......damn hijackers

    Did Singer pay you all $35 to bury his bullshit?

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    As if the suspension list is accurate
    If you're claiming that the suspension list is not accurate for MDawg's suspension, then you're calling the Wizard a liar.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I know for a fact why he was suspended.
    You haven’t posted one fact you allege you knew about (EVER) since you’ve been part of these forums.

    So, why should we believe you now?

    In my eyes you’re the biggest self-proclaimed alleged million-dollar AP phony on all these sites combined.

    The only facts forum members know for sure when it comes to you, is everything you ever said or claimed for several years, over thousands of posts, not one ounce of proof as ever been produced by you. Only alleged words.

    Everyone likes to gang up on Singer for proof which is well deserved for obvious reasons. Yet, a member could say that joining one of these fucking entertainment gambling forums was worth over a million dollars to him in AP profits. CRICKETS !!! Not a word from the challenging AP mob. He didn’t even post something that said 1 plus 1 equals 2 showing one dollar in profits was even possible. But, it’s Axelass the king of forum AP who gets a free pass.

    Axelass said Maxpen has more money than he’ll ever need. Hey Max, can you confirm you shared all your assets with Axelass a well known drunken loser? Why do you think he would make such a statement? Obviously it was just another empty attempt to back each other on an entertainment gambling forum.

    You guys just don’t realize how foolish and entertaining you appear to most members with brains not fantasies.

    My joy is pointing it out.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    They will do and say anything to avoid any actual proof
    You spent 2 weeks trying to avoid proving that you could do what you said that you could do.
    I spent two weeks trying to make sure I would get paid once I was successful. If he is willing to do that, I'm willing to take on the challenge.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I spent two weeks trying to make sure I would get paid once I was successful.
    You could not have been successful.

    You were trying to con him out of $5K.

    That's why you threw a hissy-fit after he called it off.

    You are still in hissy-fit mode, yesterday you called Shackleford a liar.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I spent two weeks trying to make sure I would get paid once I was successful.
    You could not have been successful.

    You were trying to con him out of $5K.

    That's why you threw a hissy-fit after he called it off.

    You are still in hissy-fit mode, yesterday you called Shackleford a liar.
    No I didn't call him a liar. I said I know for a fact what he got suspended for. I didn't say how I knew or why I knew. Its obvious Mike wouldn't want to add that or even say exactly why he was suspended.

    How was it I would be able to scam him out of 5k? Absolutely not true. Unless you have a legitimate reasonable way I could do that, YOU ARE JUST MAKING CRAP UP FOR AFFECT! I just wanted a legit challenge and to know I would get paid if successful, I'm quit certain I could have without any weaselly clauses or BS. You are just mad I didn't take the time to do it, succeed and then get stiffed. You live for that kind of shit and we all know it.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Its obvious Mike wouldn't want to add that or even say exactly why he was suspended.
    Here you are calling him a liar again, claiming that Mike listed false information on the suspension list.

    I don't know the guy, but you do.

    So why is that obvious that Mike wouldn't want to be truthful?

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    How was it I would be able to scam him out of 5k?
    Once the mark willingly gives up his money, then it should be considered lost.

    If MDawg put $5K on deposit with a party of your choice, then he would have to negotiate or petition to have it returned.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I'm quit certain I could have without any weaselly clauses or BS.
    There is zero chance you could have been successful in meeting MDawg's terms, you added the weaselly clauses.

    The only financial gain you had any chance of realizing was to con him into willingly parting with his money.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I'm quit certain I could have without any weaselly clauses or BS.
    There is zero chance you could have been successful in meeting MDawg's terms, you added the weaselly clauses.

    The only financial gain you had any chance of realizing was to con him into willingly parting with his money.
    What weaselly clauses? please list them. Even he himself agreed he should come up with a way to guarantee payment and a legit way to judge. I simply gave some really good safe options. My suggestions were so good that he pretended he needed to discuss it via PM. That's because he know his excuses wouldn't pass on the forum in front of everyone to see. He simply wanted to use the no reviling PM's and private conversation as tool to save time and face. His excuse was lame as hell and also reviled he knows nothing about BTC and how it works. Lets ask his permission for me to revile his PM regarding that. Again, I ask... how is it that I would have been able to con him out of his money? You are just repeating the same nonsense that makes no sense because you think it sounds good in some lame defense for him.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I simply gave some really good safe options.
    There were no safe options for him, only for you.

    You had no money at risk, and zero chance of successfully completing the challenge.

    The only chance you had to get paid is if he willingly paid the money in advance.

    Once he willingly gives his money to another party, then he has lost control over his property.

    He must rely on the opinion of others in order to retrieve it.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I simply gave some really good safe options.
    There were no safe options for him, only for you.
    How can you say that? I believe that MDawg was going to make the final decision if Axel Wolf's work did in fact meet expectations, or not.

    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    You had no money at risk, and zero chance of successfully completing the challenge.
    Why a zero chance? Are you calling MDawg a welcher after proposing a proposition? Only AxelWolf knows if he would complete the challenge which I believe would have required up to almost three years of fake trip reports and even after all of that MDawg had the final say if he thought it met his standards requiring him to pay up.

    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    The only chance you had to get paid is if he willingly paid the money in advance.
    Stop insulting MDawg, and AxelWolf I do not think MDawg would have welched if all the postings met his expectations for quality. Personally, I think that Tasha could put together a better trip report than MDawg.
    Last edited by BoSox; 01-23-2021 at 12:03 PM.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    would have required up to almost three years of fake trip reports
    What that challenge morphed into seems odd to me. Whether or not Axelwolf could have created 3 years worth a fantasy trip reports....well how does that prove anything? Just seemed a really weird side track to me.

    I am much more concerned with Mdawgs trip reports, the winning every trip aspect, including where he stated that he would continue to win every trip and then did just that.

    On a side note BoSox, are you a member at WoV under a different handle, or just a reader? (or maybe would rather not say...not sure why)
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I believe that MDawg was going to make the final decision if Axel Wolf's work did in fact meet expectations, or not.
    No, that's not was being proposed. MDawg would have had no say.

    The rest of your questions are conditional upon your false premise.
    Last edited by coach belly; 01-23-2021 at 12:38 PM.

  15. #35
    KewlJ, I am not a member at WOV only an occasional reader. I do not post there under any different handle.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Whether or not Axelwolf could have created 3 years worth a fantasy trip reports....well how does that prove anything?
    MDawg posted material as evidence that his trip reports were authentic and truthful.

    Axel insists all that stuff can be faked, that he (Axel) can fake it all, and therefore MDawg's stuff is fake.

    MDawg sought to prove that Axel can not produce faked material equivalent to what MDawg posted,
    at the same level of authenticity as MDawg's stuff.

    So far MDawg has proven that, because Axel hasn't produced anything.
    Last edited by coach belly; 01-23-2021 at 12:38 PM.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    would have required up to almost three years of fake trip reports

    I am much more concerned with Mdawgs trip reports, the winning every trip aspect, including where he stated that he would continue to win every trip and then did just that.
    All it is is a case of one-upmanship of trying to compete with Singer's double up catch and any type of successful advantage players.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    would have required up to almost three years of fake trip reports

    I am much more concerned with Mdawgs trip reports, the winning every trip aspect, including where he stated that he would continue to win every trip and then did just that.
    All it is is a case of one-upmanship of trying to compete with Singer's double up catch and any type of successful advantage players.
    That is exactly what it seems like.

    I am particularly confused by the anti-AP crowd, the coach belly's and blackholes, and a few others, that challenge everything AP's claim, which is winning backed by mathematics. But then someone like MDawg or Singer comes along claiming to have won xxxx amounts playing negative EV, defying math and these guys suddenly are on the bandwagon, saying "hell yeah, that is possible" (when of course it isn't).

    I always say it is because these anti-AP's are bitter that they aren't winning players, playing and winning with mathematical sound techniques. But when you really stop and think about it, a more logical explanation might be they are casino people infiltrating the forums. I mean what would a casino persons agenda be? Discouraging advantage play as "doesn't work / can't be done", but encouraging players to play -EV. Yep, that makes a lot of sense, when you think about it.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    someone like MDawg or Singer comes along claiming to have won xxxx amounts playing negative EV, defying math
    I'm not anti-AP, and don't challenge winning backed by math.

    Singer and MD haven't claimed to have defied math, and experts have shown that their claims do not defy math.

    You objected when experts showed that it's not even close to mathematically impossible to have won as they claim.

    You're the one who is challenging the math.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post


    I am much more concerned with Mdawgs trip reports, the winning every trip aspect, including where he stated that he would continue to win every trip and then did just that.
    All it is is a case of one-upmanship of trying to compete with Singer's double up catch and any type of successful advantage players.
    That is exactly what it seems like.

    I am particularly confused by the anti-AP crowd, the coach belly's and blackholes, and a few others, that challenge everything AP's claim, which is winning backed by mathematics.
    Regarding coach belly and blackhole in speaking their opinions, they do not hurt anyone at all pertaining to "real or not" influence people to bet in a negative expectation way. They do not deserve to be ridiculed in any way for standing up for their beliefs. I would never put them in the same category as an MDawg whose tunnel vision is self-centered with vanity. He is not concerned in any way possible if someone attempts to follow in his shoes. So even though he may not be a casino employee, in reality, he is in fact still doing the damage like he is one and he knows it and could care less.
    Last edited by BoSox; 01-23-2021 at 01:32 PM.

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