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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by coach belly
    You misunderstand what Eliot is stating. He states that a playing a winning system is not possible.
    Uh .... no, that is not what he says.

    Whatever.

    I accept the notion of luck, that a baccarat player can have a couple of winning years: but MDawg does not limit his boast to that.

    He claims he pretty much always wins when he gambles, which is a crock of shit.

    Were he an AP playing with some form of great advantage, even then he'd have frequent losing sessions: funny he doesn't talk about them ...

    No, MDawg is your typical bullshit artist gambler, arguably with a good bankroll, who seeks vailidation from strangers on gambling forums.

    He's not alone in his neurotic quest.
    What, Me Worry?

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    Bad weather day in Vegas, BoSox. Cold (44 degrees), rainy, windy. You know....another rainy day in Vegas! Actually has stopped rainy, but it is an indoor day, so here I am.
    KJ, I get your point, I think, but then again why would rain inhibit you from going to the casinos to ply you craft?
    .

    Not spending a lot of time in casinos right now MrV. Haven't played any meaningful blackjack since October. (couple of short sessions). I make a couple quick stops at different casinos each week, usually morning when not crowded, to pick up free play, but that is starting to dry up too. I am now waiting for the vaccine to get back into my casino life. Casinos are about the worse place you can be.

    I was hoping to get a decent bike ride in today, but with the "blizzard" put that off.

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    You misunderstand what Eliot is stating.

    He states that a playing a winning system is not possible.

    But winning as MDawg has claimed is certainly possible.
    OMG, it isn't just an act....YOU ARE retarted.

    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Eliot explains it that post, and with his big player story, that winning consistently over a period of 3 years at baccarat is possible.

    You're insisting that it's not possible...but you're obviously wrong about that.
    Winning over 3 years.

    a,) Guy makes an annual overnight trips for a total of 3 trips, maybe 10 hours of play.

    b.) Guy makes 12 trips a year for several days at a time.

    c.) Guy (maybe someone we know) makes a number of annual trips for weeks and months at a time.

    Are all equal? of course not. So don't talk to me about 3 years of winning.
    I bet this guy could have won money at Baccarat over a three-year span

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...%26FORM%3DVDRE
    Last edited by BoSox; 01-25-2021 at 04:15 PM.

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    No, MDawg is your typical bullshit artist gambler, arguably with a good bankroll, who seeks vailidation from strangers on gambling forums.

    He's not alone in his neurotic quest.
    One of the things that I haven't mentioned much that bothers me, is that MDawg implies that because he supposedly has a big bankroll and plays higher stakes that is the basis for his winning. It is like he is trying to say those of us that don't play his stakes can't understand what he is talking about. This is nonsense. While it is true that games can change marginally at higher stakes, think slightly better rules in blackjack like s17 vs h17, or slightly better pay table in video poker, the idea that higher stakes makes a -EV play into winning play is voodoo nonsense.

    And I'll tell you, although it has never been mentioned, I get the feeling mention of a big bankroll may be an unspoken hint at a progressive wagering system. You bet at one level then increase until you win. I am just waiting for MDawg to lay THAT on us.

  5. #65
    Hello, martingale.

    It works great, until it doesn't.
    What, Me Worry?

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Hello, martingale.

    It works great, until it doesn't.
    But that explains these people that claim they always win. They do have many, many winning sessions just like they claim. It is just they conveniently 'forget' to mention that one huge losing session that wipes away all those wins plus some.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly
    You misunderstand what Eliot is stating. He states that a playing a winning system is not possible.
    Uh .... no, that is not what he says.

    Whatever.

    I accept the notion of luck, that a baccarat player can have a couple of winning years: but MDawg does not limit his boast to that.

    He claims he pretty much always wins when he gambles, which is a crock of shit.

    Were he an AP playing with some form of great advantage, even then he'd have frequent losing sessions: funny he doesn't talk about them ...

    No, MDawg is your typical bullshit artist gambler, arguably with a good bankroll, who seeks vailidation from strangers on gambling forums.

    He's not alone in his neurotic quest.
    I bet AxelWolf is having multiple orgasms right about now.

  8. #68
    Coach Belly you can't get anywhere with this guy, although I must say I admire you for trying. He loses at blackjack. He's incapable of keeping his mouth shut as to anything supposedly told to him in confidence, assuming that anything was told to him in the first place and he's not just making it up. He shows emotionality which are the signs of a poor gambler, no wonder he's unsuccessful at blackjack.

    What's funny is that even AxelWolf concedes that the videos of the win statements I posted are genuine, but has some vague theory that they belong to someone else. At least AW has some theory - a worthless theory but at least some kind of theory - while this loser with loose lips can't even come up with any explanation for what I posted other than jumping up and down and saying that it cannot be.

    He can't even stand on his own two feet - he seeks affirmation from others, such as the Wizard. And then when the Wizard declared that my winning is plausible, KewlJ turned on the Wizard too. No loyalty.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I know what is going on because Shackleford himself told me.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Could have been a different discussion about a different topic. I can't tell since you posted out of context.
    Click onto the blue >> symbol next to your name, and you'll see the post where you named him...it will be in context and it all ties in

  10. #70
    I think it is great that MFraud and coach smelly have teamed up. It validates my thoughts. Anyone that comes along and hasn't read everything, says coach belly is supporting MFraud? then it must be bogus.

  11. #71

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    He is a baccarat player,and as such has a nearly fifty-fifty chance of winning or losing; mathematically he should lose as many hands as he wins, unless he in fact has an edge, which of course he does not.

    How then to square the expected loss of roughly half his plays with his brag that he always (or nearly always) wins every time he plays?
    You are assuming facts not in evidence...namely that MD bets the same every hand.

    The Wizard offered this explanation, it may help clear up your misunderstandings...

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...52/#post789330
    I retract my previous claim of "I don't believe MDawg's claims." That was based on my own misunderstanding of what he was claiming.

    Dr. Jacobson explains the math here...

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...of-axelwolf/4/

    The winning is definitely possible.

    Those lucky enough to be two standard deviations above expectation will get a solid couple of years of play still being a winner. That's about a 1-in-40 shot.

    And those 1-in-600 (or so) who are close to 3 standard deviations can get two years of extensive play and still be a winner,
    while playing a losing system.
    Coach, you have always had a fascination with winning while playing a minus EV game. You should take Jacobsen's quote here to heart. You have only a 1 in 40 shot at being a winner after two years of play. I don't like those odds. Your dream of beating a minus EV game longterm is nothing more than a pipedream.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Have my baby, I tell stranger how.
    Your weird as fuck, but funny as hell !

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post

    By the way, I think Mr Mendelson said he viewed 18 yos in a row -- not that he threw 18 yos in a row.
    The VCT GOAT poster of all time! Pull up a chair, have a coffee, stay awhile.
    I would prefer that AndrewG's "friend", Mr. Mendelson, not be mentioned in the same breath or same discussion as the likes of MDawg and Singer, because Mr. Mendelson never set out to deceive anyone. I personally believe him a victim of selective memory or at worst exaggerating or mis-remembering something he thinks he saw. And I don't say this as any kind of put down. Selective memory is a human thing. Everyone has experienced it. I'll give you an example from my world. I am sitting at a blackjack table when all of the sudden I start losing. After a number of hands I think to myself, geez I am losing every hand, I have lost 12 in a row. But is it really 12 in a row? while it may seem like it, if I were to go back and look at tape it was probably 7 or 8 or maybe 8 out of 9 hands, forgetting one win or push mixed in. THAT is how selective memory works. And I honestly believe that is what occurred with Alan. Unfortunately over the years he dug in and became very defensive and it grew to what it is.

    Now the other thing that differentiates is that Alan was never trying to mislead anybody for financial gain. I have been on forums where players were and rather blatantly. And I have been on forums, where that sort of thing didn't occur out in the open on the forum, but behind the scenes via private discussions. One guy on a blackjack forum, took to "mentoring" new players. He had a certain blackjack count that he pushed, hi-opt2, and would privately teach some of the newer players. It is highly doubtful he did so for free. And then the story broke, that he had partnered with several of these newer players that he mentored, combined bankrolls, and that he had been robbed of everybody's money.

    So there are all kinds of ways. Even our own Rob Singer has mentioned privately meeting and teaching players his progressive system, which he later revealed to Alan was a scam. I mean who knows what financial arrangements were involved in those private lessons. Is there anybody that really thinks he did that for free? I mean this is a guy that wrote books on his progressive system that he later admitted was bogus (which we all knew).

    And that is why I don't buy the argument that Dan Druff made yesterday that he let Singer go on because he was never selling anything. Who knows what went on behind the scene. If a forum owner gives someone the platform to push such a claim, they are also providing the means (private messaging) for all the backdoor stuff.
    Another KJ lie. Why do you always have to go out of bounds on shit, KJ? You fucking destroy your own credibility every time. Singer did not tell Mendelson his system was a scam. That's a blatant fucking lie. What Singer said is he didn't work the system as extensively as he said he did. It's disgusting, KJ, how you continue to make shit up to support your arguments.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Your dream of beating a minus EV game longterm is nothing more than a pipedream.
    I don't have that dream, that's not what this discussion is about.

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It's disgusting, KJ, how you continue to make shit up to support your argument.
    I agree with you on this.

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly
    What page did you pull Rule #3 from?
    Are you fucking shitting me?

    It's at the top of the page when you first come on to the Las Vegas section.

    It says "Sticky: Forum Rules - please read!
    Started by Dan Druff, 04-12-2020 05:09 PM"

    Let me guess: you never read them!

    Of course you didn't!

    I think you have your forums confused; the wiz might care about the "privacy" issue you are bleating about but Dan could give two shits about it.

    As it is NOT a violation of the printed rules, not a violation of any other rule Dan Druff may have made up along the way it is therefore NOT AN ISSUE ON THIS SITE.

    You want to whine about the small shit, go hit up the Wiz; but over here your straw man just combusts spontaneously.
    Druff doesn't allow doxxing.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Another KJ lie. Why do you always have to go out of bounds on shit, KJ? You fucking destroy your own credibility every time. Singer did not tell Mendelson his system was a scam. That's a blatant fucking lie. What Singer said is he didn't work the system as extensively as he said he did. It's disgusting, KJ, how you continue to make shit up to support your arguments.
    Give it up Crimm. Rob Singer is dead! All it was, was a fictional character, making bogus claims about from everything winning while playing negative EV games, to stealing the double up bug claim for his own, to bogus claims about an RV, his finances, his life. It was a James Bond type fictitious character played by a broke degenerate, life-long losing gambler, who had evictions, judgements and even a food stamp fraud on his public record. And he used trolling and nasty personal attacks to dissuade anyone who might challenge his alternate reality, much the same way this MDawg character does.

    Find a new hero to worship and kiss his ass, Mickey. Mdawg is available.

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Another KJ lie. Why do you always have to go out of bounds on shit, KJ? You fucking destroy your own credibility every time. Singer did not tell Mendelson his system was a scam. That's a blatant fucking lie. What Singer said is he didn't work the system as extensively as he said he did. It's disgusting, KJ, how you continue to make shit up to support your arguments.

    Pot meet kettle.....lol


    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    And that derogatory post I made about him? I thought he made a derogatory post about me so came up with some shit to fire back at him. He explained that he wasn't talking about me. I went back over the post and determined that he really wasn't talking about me. I had made a mistake so I apologized to him for the post.
    Could KewlJ be VitriolicHobo2 ???????

  20. #80
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Your dream of beating a minus EV game longterm is nothing more than a pipedream.
    I don't have that dream, that's not what this discussion is about.
    Do you mean that you don't have the dream of being able to correctly guess whether the player or banker wins the hand?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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