Tipping in Las Vegas casinos

[MisterV]

This subject comes up occasionally in other threads; I think it deserves a thread of its own.

I haven't been to Las Vegas for several years, and base my opinion on what I saw then; if things have changed I am unaware of it.

In the past one thing that always pissed me off about Las Vegas casinos was the lack of self-serve beverage stations; hell it's the middle of the desert, people get damned thirsty.

Not even a convenient water fountain.

Which leaves the CW's.

Why should anyone tip a CW to bring them a glass of water, when the water should be readily available and not require the employment of a CW?

As for maids I never leave them a tip: why should I?

I may tip a craps crew if I am doing well, but that is sort of like throwing bread in the water: I've had several times where after tipping them the crew "forgets" to take my bet down and leaves it up when it should come down (e.g. on a crowded table).

So far as tipping for a slot handpay: don't bother; do they tip you when you lose?

I understand AP's have a rep for being tight due to their reluctance to tip: again, why should they tip?

They're at work, and money given away means less food on the table.

I can't end this without posting my favorite movie clip on the subject:

[Ozzy]

I believe tipping is a subject that people often lie about. They tend to inflate what they give, to make themselves look and feel better. I totally agree on not tipping the maids, overpaid 6 figure valets( I avoid valet at all cost ) Rude entitled dealers, lazy and entitled slot attendants. Princess servers who aren't happy with 1 dollar a drink and give attitude, get nothing from me after that. I will tip good service, but if I sense any kind of entitlement, I'll give squat, with no qualms or shame. People don't seem to realize, a lot of these tipped employees, make well over 100k a year. The servers at high end joints can make well over 200 k a year. Not bad for a job, that requires no skill or education.

[AxelWolf]

I believe tipping is a subject that people often lie about. They tend to inflate what they give, to make themselves look and feel better.

And those are the people who like to tell everyone else when and how much to tip. I don't like it when people are complete stiffs and never tip anyone for anything. I really don't like it when people criticize others for lack of tipping. Everyone should mind their own business when it comes to other people tipping or not. If you think others are not tipping enough, then make a point to tip more.

[kewlJ]

Oh wow, a tipping thread. Ok, I'll bite.

There are certain service type jobs that tipping is customary. Bartenders, food servers, bellhops, hotel maids to name a few. I don't even know how THAT happened, but it did, so whatever. But a person dealing cards, is not the same, in my opinion. A person dealing cards is is just a non skill low level job and it is not "customary" most of them. Do you tip the cashier at cvs? That is equivalent to the dealer in my opinion.

Somewhere along the line, I guess someone decided to tip a dealer after a winning session. AS if the dealer did something special to contribute to that winning session. I mean if they DID, that is illegal and your tipping makes you part of that collusion. Now that has evolved into flat out tip whoring by dealers. They think they are entitled to a portion of winnings. And even worse than that, they think non winning players should be tipping. I just see no reason why that is a job that should be tipped for. It has often been said that a monkey could be taught to deal the cards and now, machines are doing that task. And here is the really funny part....some of those electronic type machines have a place for you to tip the electronic virtual dealer. And I suppose there are suckers doing so.

Now hand pays. recreational gamblers probably enjoy hand pays, but any AP would rather not have them. Just print out our voucher and let us cash it out at the kiosk or cage. But the law says over $1200 is a hand pay. So I don't hold that against the person doing the hand pay. It's not their fault that is the law. So I am willing to tip a bit. People will call me cheap, but I think 1% is fair. That is $20 for $2000 or $40 for $4000 ($1 royal). Now of course the hand pay attendant thinks they should get $100 for a $4000 hand pay. They can think that all they want, they aren't getting that from me.

[Ozzy]

A slot attendant who thinks He or She deserves 100$ on 4000$, is in the entitlement category.... NO SOUP 4 YOU !

[kewlJ]

OK, so I didn't actually mention how I tip at a blackjack table. It isn't much. I don't tip as I am playing. When it comes time to leave, I will only tip if I have the odd $2.50 from blackjack (with a minimum wager of $25, this occurs most sessions). That is it. If I have $2.50, I tip it, which is not appreciated if at anytime the count when high and I was betting bigger.

The only exception I have, is if I come across a fast dealer, who is just dealing, not attempting to converse. Especially if I am playing heads up. That situation is valuable to me. It allows for a lot of EV in a short period, avoiding downtime and exposure, so I will tip $5 at the end of my session (or $7.50, if I have that odd amount).

If dealers don't like it, they should find something else to do, or ask their billion dollar casino owners to pay a decent wage.

[AndrewG]

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

[MisterV]

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

Generally speaking, no.

But if I was aggressively pressing my yo bet and it hit eighteen times in a row I might tip the shooter a buck or two.

[Ozzy]

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

Do you toke when you play craps Mr Andrew ? What's your stance on tipping etiquette ?

[AndrewG]

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

Do you toke when you play craps Mr Andrew ? What's your stance on tipping etiquette ?

I tip on hand pays. I follow Mr Kewlj... $20 on $2000, $40 on $4000, but it's been a long time since I tipped as I usually play 25-cent VP and a royal is $1,000 with no hand pay. At table games I make occasional $1 bets for the dealers. Being a $10 player I'm sure they dont expect me to tip much.

Back to my first comment. I watched a guy buyin for $100,000 and he colored up $138,000 after a $10 player had a ten minute roll. I think the high roller could have thrown the shooter a hundred bucks.

[AxelWolf]

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

Do you toke when you play craps Mr Andrew ? What's your stance on tipping etiquette ?

I tip on hand pays. I follow Mr Kewlj... $20 on $2000, $40 on $4000, but it's been a long time since I tipped as I usually play 25-cent VP and a royal is $1,000 with no hand pay. At table games I make occasional $1 bets for the dealers. Being a $10 player I'm sure they dont expect me to tip much.

Back to my first comment. I watched a guy buyin for $100,000 and he colored up $138,000 after a $10 player had a ten minute roll. I think the high roller could have thrown the shooter a hundred bucks.

This angers me that you think the guy should tip the shooter. What happens when "he loses" the guy 50k?

[AndrewG]

Do you toke when you play craps Mr Andrew ? What's your stance on tipping etiquette ?

I tip on hand pays. I follow Mr Kewlj... $20 on $2000, $40 on $4000, but it's been a long time since I tipped as I usually play 25-cent VP and a royal is $1,000 with no hand pay. At table games I make occasional $1 bets for the dealers. Being a $10 player I'm sure they dont expect me to tip much.

Back to my first comment. I watched a guy buyin for $100,000 and he colored up $138,000 after a $10 player had a ten minute roll. I think the high roller could have thrown the shooter a hundred bucks.

This angers me that you think the guy should tip the shooter. What happens when "he loses" the guy 50k?

It angers you? Really? It angers you when some guy comes to a craps table with $60 and at the end of his roll he wins maybe $40 but the whale at the table makes ten or twenty thousand? That angers you that it would be a nice gesture to give the shooter a Benjamin?

Sorry you're angry...

And if the whale loses $50,000 he must have made a couple of huge bets. I dont think you even play craps Mr Axelwolf. If you did you would understand that to lose $50k you'd have to have $50k on the table for a single roll. That's not likely given betting limits for a table that would allow a $10 passline bettor.

[AxelWolf]

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That never made any sense to me.

[MDawg]

As long as I walk sufficiently ahead for the amount of time I have spent in town, I'm satisfied. Why shouldn't the dealers make money when I make money?

Plus as I have mentioned time and again, if I'm trying to walk ahead, say, five grand, if I tip five hundred or so along the way via dealer bets alongside mine, it might delay my getting to five grand by some minutes, but it's not like I'll end up walking with 5500 versus 5000 if I do not place any dealer bets. When I reach my goal, I just leave.

Anyone who comes on here to justify tipping little or nothing, such as for example the microscopic amounts KewlJ talks about tipping is just a tight a** as far as I am concerned. I cringe when I read about his tossing the dealer five dollars at the end of the session. Then again, yes, I understand, he's doing it for a living while I am not, but still, that's just cheesy giving the dealer only five dollars. That's what I tip per non-alcoholic beverage to the cocktail waitress, which is the same as many others tip too I am sure.

I see some of the biggest Asian Baccarat players tip almost nothing, and yet they almost always lose in the end, while I tip a lot and win consistently.

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

Of course. That's de rigueur. I haven't played craps in years, but my memories of big wins include the look on the shooter's face lighting up as I hand him a black chip or two, especially if the person was a small player. Sometimes money comes and goes but that sort of feeling lingers. That's actually the true definition of karma - not that if you do something good that something good will necessarily come back to you directly, but that if you do good things for people they might be inspired to pass along that positive energy, and then in the scheme of things, it might come back to you eventually.


Now in this situation, I can see how the shooter didn't want to tip much...as she'd been stealing his chips all night.



I actually met that guy in Vegas, and he dresses just like that in real life, with those glasses. He used to be the manager of the Bernini store at the Caesar's Forums shops. Now lives in Australia, last I heard from him.

I've thought about that scenario a lot, that "Ace" and the floor crew just stood by and watched while she stole chips and then later threw them all over the place.



I realize it was a movie, but it was supposed to be based on real life. Once some hustler stole a high denomination chip right off my table and got away with it - the casino later reimbursed me.

[redietz]

As long as I walk sufficiently ahead for the amount of time I have spent in town, I'm satisfied. Why shouldn't the dealers make money when I make money?

Plus as I have mentioned time and again, if I'm trying to walk ahead, say, five grand, if I tip five hundred or so along the way via dealer bets alongside mine, it might delay my getting to five grand by some minutes, but it's not like I'll end up walking with 5500 versus 5000 if I do not place any dealer bets. When I reach my goal, I just leave.

Anyone who comes on here to justify tipping little or nothing, such as for example the microscopic amounts KewlJ talks about tipping is just a tight a** as far as I am concerned. I cringe when I read about his tossing the dealer five dollars at the end of the session. Then again, yes, I understand, he's doing it for a living while I am not, but still, that's just cheesy giving the dealer only five dollars. That's what I tip per non-alcoholic beverage to the cocktail waitress, which is the same as many others tip too I am sure.

I see some of the biggest Asian Baccarat players tip almost nothing, and yet they almost always lose in the end, while I tip a lot and win consistently.

How about high rollers who belly up to a craps table and win a bucket full of cash on another player's roll... should the rich guy tip the shooter?

Of course. That's de rigueur. I haven't played craps in years, but my memories of big wins include the look on the shooter's face lighting up as I hand him a black chip or two, especially if the person was a small player. Sometimes money comes and goes but that sort of feeling lingers. That's actually the true definition of karma - not that if you do something good that something good will necessarily come back to you directly, but that if you do good things for people they might be inspired to pass along that positive energy, and then in the scheme of things, it might come back to you eventually.


Now in this situation, I can see how the shooter didn't want to tip much...as she'd been stealing his chips all night.



I actually met that guy in Vegas, and he dresses just like that in real life, with those glasses. He used to be the manager of the Bernini store at the Caesar's Forums shops. Now lives in Australia, last I heard from him.

I've thought about that scenario a lot, that "Ace" and the floor crew just stood by and watched while she stole chips and then later threw them all over the place.



I realize it was a movie, but it was supposed to be based on real life. Once some hustler stole a high denomination chip right off my table and got away with it - the casino later reimbursed me.

Aw, those were the days. I kept a change cup from The Tangiers as a remembrance. I'm occasionally tempted to sell it on ebay, but the memories are too fond.

[blackhole]

Hey Kiwlj, in that other thread you said you love sucking a nice cock. So, if the dealer was also a queer weirdo and offered you the tip of his cock after his shift, I’m sure you would want and take the tip.

Well, that’s just how he feels while he’s working dealing you cards.

Should've ran this same question past Mister Professor V. Feel free to chime in professor.

[kewlJ]

Hey Kiwlj, in that other thread you said you love sucking a nice cock. So, if the dealer was also a queer weirdo and offered you the tip of his cock after his shift, I’m sure you would want and take the tip.

If the dealer was cute, had a pretty penis and I was in the mood, sure.

Blackhole you are so stupid. You say these stupid things like it is some kind put down to me. It isn't. I am a gay guy. I am attracted to guys and when I am in the mood, enjoy sucking dick. It would be like if you said to some straight guy, "You probably would fuck the good-looking female dealer?" Ah yeah, guess what? He probably would.

And you thinking these things are some kind of putdown, shows just how out of touch you are. I know, you are an old bigot. The kind of person that hates everyone and everything different than himself, race, religion, sexual preference. It is you and your kind that are the dinosaurs and being left behind. Time has passed you by. Either adjust or just check out altogether. In the mean time, you would be a lot better off just living your life and stop worrying about how everybody else is living theirs.

[Garnabby]

Don't eat out. Don't go to casinos. Service yourselves.

Tipping dilemmas solved, before started.

I mean, when there's no easy answer, then you are barking up the wrong tree, to begin with.

[kewlJ]

Andrew, were you the shooter and $10 player? Lol

[AndrewG]

Andrew, were you the shooter and $10 player? Lol

No. But I've been tipped.