It was pointed out to me that Frank Kneeland, who no longer posts here, is asking the LVA board (of all places) to provide information about how to determine if VP machines are fair and random.

He is asking about how to test the machines, sample size, standards, etc.

But he has missed the main point of the discussion that Rob first started. Rob says he has been told by a programmer.engineer/insider that the machines are not random.

So Frank seems to be attacking the wrong question. The question really is can anyone provide the "inside info" that the machines are not random?