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Thread: MDawg versus Wynn Stock holders

  1. #1
    I’ll start by saying I didn’t do this personally but is it an option for a concerned investor?

    Should someone who owns stock in Wynn, while understanding much of their value comes from Macau, be concerned about a player who is taking them for cash at will in Vegas?

    Should said person make a call to security or management about possible collision between a player who is claiming across multiple Internet forums to be taking them for large amounts of money at will?

    Who has been at their property for the past 10 days winning daily, while staying and eating for free. While claiming his host knows he wins “all the time”. And claims to be tipping dealers large amounts.

    Should the casino be concerned dealers, pit bosses who he claims are watching everything, and hosts are being complacent in their duties? Or worse, in on a scam because of large tips?

    Do they have a lawyer from CA who has publicly posted his winnings, along with win/loss statements, hiding in plain sight from their security personnel whose job is to see these abnormalities in basic odds the casino is built on?

    At what point does a casino stop welcoming a player who could bankrupt them at anytime he chooses based of what he is doing? Or do they continue to allow him to take them for $10,000 a day?

    Do they have a responsibility to shareholders to investigate this publicly announced fleecing of their casino by a player who can’t lose?

    As casinos have made it clear they don’t want advantage BJ players, and have banned them, do publicly traded casinos have an obligation to investigate and possible ban Baccarat players who have a negative impact on their bottom lines over time, in amounts above normal variance?

    As casinos have also banned customers playing certain slot machines that their actions do not change overall holds, should they be investigating players who ARE affecting their results?

    And when reporting this should they provide the disclaimer that all of this could be a waste of time based on a guy (possibly with a little dick) trying to impress anonymous people on Internet forums?

    And should shareholders of Las Vegas Sands and The Blackstone Group do the same?
    Last edited by The Boz; 03-28-2021 at 03:58 PM.

  2. #2
    That might be a little over the top.

    It's not like he's claiming to own a Newell or something....

  3. #3
    Lol great thread Boz !

  4. #4
    I beat ya to it, Boz: I sent an email last week to security / loss prevention at both Cosmo and Wynn, giving them background info and links to his steaming pile of gambling forum road apples.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    I beat ya to it, Boz: I sent an email last week to security / loss prevention at both Cosmo and Wynn
    Do you think they'll get back to you after they probe the apples?

  6. #6
    Well, Boz and V, that direct approach may work best. However, it has occurred to me that, although a bit of a long shot, MDawg may be casino management or a host himself, trying to drum up some business. Would help explain the criteria for watching him play (pony up 50K or whatever). Having read Whale Hunt in the Desert a couple of times, I wouldn't put much past hosting hijinks.

  7. #7
    Vegas casino capture 18-19 percents on the turnover at their baccarats game what offer a house bite of a paltry 1 percents or so. So, they ain't gonna sweat the mdawg action, hey hey.

  8. #8
    I would like to say no matter how much I believe MDawg is full of shit, I am NOT on board with this type of stuff. I would ask that people not do anything that could cause harm to someone else IRL if they haven't done anything to you that would deserve such actions.

    With the fact that MDawg has posted a video of someone's player accounts(it wasn't even that impressive and it's meaningless to us for many reasons). it would be very easy for any number of employees, such as a host, to use that information and find out exactly who that person is. They can also correlate it easily with the so-called Markers he posted photos of.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Well, Boz and V, that direct approach may work best. However, it has occurred to me that, although a bit of a long shot, MDawg may be casino management or a host himself, trying to drum up some business. Would help explain the criteria for watching him play (pony up 50K or whatever). Having read Whale Hunt in the Desert a couple of times, I wouldn't put much past hosting hijinks.

    redietz, I hope that you don't think that this new theory of yours is original thought? I am sure that most everyone here has had similiar thoughts along those lines.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Well, Boz and V, that direct approach may work best. However, it has occurred to me that, although a bit of a long shot, MDawg may be casino management or a host himself, trying to drum up some business. Would help explain the criteria for watching him play (pony up 50K or whatever). Having read Whale Hunt in the Desert a couple of times, I wouldn't put much past hosting hijinks.
    Nah, a host would have much more impressive evidence and wouldn't make up total BS like the Bitcoin BS among many other things. I dont think a host would make himself look like an idiot as much as MDawg has.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I would like to say no matter how much I believe MDawg is full of shit, I am NOT on board with this type of stuff. I would ask that people not do anything that could cause harm to someone else IRL if they haven't done anything to you that would deserve such actions.

    With the fact that MDawg has posted a video of someone's player accounts(it wasn't even that impressive and it's meaningless to us for many reasons). it would be very easy for any number of employees, such as a host, to use that information and find out exactly who that person is. They can also correlate it easily with the so-called Markers he posted photos of.


    Now I consider that touch of class.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I would like to say no matter how much I believe MDawg is full of shit, I am NOT on board with this type of stuff. I would ask that people not do anything that could cause harm to someone else IRL if they haven't done anything to you that would deserve such actions.

    With the fact that MDawg has posted a video of someone's player accounts(it wasn't even that impressive and it's meaningless to us for many reasons). it would be very easy for any number of employees, such as a host, to use that information and find out exactly who that person is. They can also correlate it easily with the so-called Markers he posted photos of.
    Doesn’t that come with the territory of what MDawg is putting out there?

    And wouldn’t the person he is posting as his own life want to know what is going on? If, as you have suggested, could possibly be happening?

    I’m not saying I would do it, but as I posted, a shareholder of any public company should be concerned with anything that affects shareholder value, shouldn’t they?

    When I worked for a public company years ago, one of the first things I was told is my number 1 job is to protect shareholder value. And never do anything that could possibly affect it.

    My original statement stands, is this guy a risk to shareholders? And is there a possibility that employees are involved in a fraud against the casino?

    And as a person who lives by odds and has seen almost everything like you have, what is more probable? MD consistently beats the odds at these publicly traded casinos, or is involved with defrauding them, possibly with insider help?

    Or it’s all an innocent forum boasting claim?

    And who has anything to lose here, other than shareholders if something is going on?

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I would like to say no matter how much I believe MDawg is full of shit, I am NOT on board with this type of stuff. I would ask that people not do anything that could cause harm to someone else IRL if they haven't done anything to you that would deserve such actions.

    With the fact that MDawg has posted a video of someone's player accounts(it wasn't even that impressive and it's meaningless to us for many reasons). it would be very easy for any number of employees, such as a host, to use that information and find out exactly who that person is. They can also correlate it easily with the so-called Markers he posted photos of.
    Doesn’t that come with the territory of what MDawg is putting out there?

    And wouldn’t the person he is posting as his own life want to know what is going on? If, as you have suggested, could possibly be happening?

    I’m not saying I would do it, but as I posted, a shareholder of any public company should be concerned with anything that affects shareholder value, shouldn’t they?

    When I worked for a public company years ago, one of the first things I was told is my number 1 job is to protect shareholder value. And never do anything that could possibly affect it.

    My original statement stands, is this guy a risk to shareholders? And is there a possibility that employees are involved in a fraud against the casino?

    And as a person who lives by odds and has seen almost everything, what is more probable? MD consistently beats the odds at these publicly traded casinos, or is involved with defrauding them, possibly with insider help?

    Or it’s all an innocent forum boasting claim?

    And who has anything to lose here, other than shareholders if something is going on?
    I get what you were saying/doing here. What are the words for it, tongue and cheek? I dont think you would do anything like this. And, perhaps, you are correct when you say that it comes with the territory. I'm not criticizing you or anyone else on this matter. I just wanted to put something out there for people to think about. Unfortunately, we all know(I think you know this better than others) there are some wackjobs in the forumverse, and who knows what type of ideas get in their head.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    here are some wackjobs in the forumverse,
    and who knows what type of ideas get in their head.
    I do!

    See posts #1 , #4 , #6 , & #12 in this thread.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I would like to say no matter how much I believe MDawg is full of shit, I am NOT on board with this type of stuff. I would ask that people not do anything that could cause harm to someone else IRL if they haven't done anything to you that would deserve such actions.

    With the fact that MDawg has posted a video of someone's player accounts(it wasn't even that impressive and it's meaningless to us for many reasons). it would be very easy for any number of employees, such as a host, to use that information and find out exactly who that person is. They can also correlate it easily with the so-called Markers he posted photos of.
    Doesn’t that come with the territory of what MDawg is putting out there?

    And wouldn’t the person he is posting as his own life want to know what is going on? If, as you have suggested, could possibly be happening?

    I’m not saying I would do it, but as I posted, a shareholder of any public company should be concerned with anything that affects shareholder value, shouldn’t they?

    When I worked for a public company years ago, one of the first things I was told is my number 1 job is to protect shareholder value. And never do anything that could possibly affect it.

    My original statement stands, is this guy a risk to shareholders? And is there a possibility that employees are involved in a fraud against the casino?

    And as a person who lives by odds and has seen almost everything like you have, what is more probable? MD consistently beats the odds at these publicly traded casinos, or is involved with defrauding them, possibly with insider help?

    Or it’s all an innocent forum boasting claim?

    And who has anything to lose here, other than shareholders if something is going on?

    Any thorough investigation would quickly lead to all dead ends anyway. Everyone involved in the investigation would want to find out who coach belly was. After they got done interviewing him all of the interviewers would say that they are not getting paid enough money for this work, and would be looking for a new job.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    all of the interviewers would say that they are not getting paid enough money for this work
    I'm an easy interview...Am I being detained?

  17. #17
    If he is what he says he is then he's got nothing to worry about.

    If not ...
    What, Me Worry?

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    If he is what he says he is then he's got nothing to worry about.

    If not ...
    The opposite applies.

    If he isn't what he says he is (a winning Baccarat player) then he has nothing to worry about

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    If he is what he says he is then he's got nothing to worry about.
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    If he isn't what he says he is then he has nothing to worry about
    I'm nominating this exchange for the March 2021
    mickeycrimm Admiration Society's "I know you are but what am I?" award.

  20. #20
    He says he wins all the time by playing smart and pressing.

    If that is true, no problem.

    However if he wins all the time for some other reason, the hammer may fall.

    Of course, I don't believe he wins all the time, but it's his story and he spreads it daily across the internet via his inimitable style of fecal painting.

    Oh, I suspect that somebody at Wynn and Cosmo had already stumbled upon or heard about what this jackass has been braying long before my e-mail; whether they care enough to follow up is the question.
    What, Me Worry?

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