My craps play

[Hawkesite]

I have been playing craps for 4 decades, often with big gaps as life happens.

I used to be (in the age of single odds) a three-unit player. That let me squeeze a little more juice out of the odds.

Now I bet a single unit (5/10/15 - I am a 'low-roller') on the pass. I take double odds. If I lose three points in a row, I move on.

If I win, I add two come bets, single unit with double odds. As bets repeat, I increase the odds.

Once the hot roll is done, I leave.

Comments? Thoughts?

[MisterV]

Pretty smart, conservative play.

Me, I like to bypass the come out and start my serives by placing six and eight, usually for $12 each, take a hit or two then press the number that repeats and hope for the best.

If a good roll ensues I start spreading out, e.g. placing five and nine, snd then four and ten, but that is pretty rare.

[MDawg]

Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.

[OnceDear]

With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.

Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.

[kewlJ]

Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.

He is not getting near my dick. Maybe Axel is open, I don't know.

I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

Besides that Mdawg is lying about his play, as everyone knows, Mdawg is a sock puppet of a banned member and I think you guys at WoV know that. And now he is using sockpuppets like this wellbush who just joined 2 days ago and is already knee deep in support of Mdawg. Aren't you guys checking IP addresses over there anymore Oncedear, or are you allowing VPN to be used? Doesn't matter, your headache now. he is making a mockery of Wizard. I have no hard feeling for you Oncedear.

[OnceDear]

All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.

He is not getting near my dick. Maybe Axel is open, I don't know.

Welcome KewlJ to MDawg's latest thread.
One down. Two to go.

[Mission146]

He is not getting near my dick. Maybe Axel is open, I don't know.

I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

Besides that Mdawg is lying about his play, as everyone knows, Mdawg is a sock puppet of a banned member and I think you guys at WoV know that. And now he is using sockpuppets like this wellbush who just joined 2 days ago and is already knee deep in support of Mdawg. Aren't you guys checking IP addresses over there anymore Oncedear, or are you allowing VPN to be used? Doesn't matter, your headache now. he is making a mockery of Wizard. I have no hard feeling for you Oncedear.

You're clearly more worried about the so-called, "Mockery," than he is. Why that would be the case, I have no idea. If you're massively worried about it, have you ever thought about contacting him to ask him if he can forward an offer to the site's owners on just buying WoV? I'll still write articles for WoV, but I'm not budging on my pay arrangement. If you're not interested in having me write for WoV, well, bunch of other sites under the LCB umbrella that I already write for. Figure I'll do both. Just don't bother to give me deadlines---they'll almost never be met.

Anyway, I don't know what he said that would lead you to believe that, but I guess take it up with him. Caveat emptor. It's certainly never the way that the Forum has worked.

In fact, I even commented here:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...213#post124213

Yes. Individual posts aside, I fail to see what rule his general posting violates. You could maybe make an argument that his trip report thread, in particular, might be relegated to the Betting Systems sub-forum, but even that would have nothing to do with whether or not he could post there. It also wouldn't matter much as I tend to believe most active posters just use the, "Recent/Unread Threads," function.

I think I said something similar at WoV, but I don't care enough to look.

Anyway, you could have asked in the thread, PM to Mike, PM to someone else if that's how it works. At this time, Betting Systems threads appear on Recent Threads and I don't recall it ever being any other way.

Jesus Christ, though, not getting clarification on something and being misled aren't the same thing. Just because you made an assumption and your assumption was wrong does not mean you were misled.

Don't you ever get tired? Why not go for a nice walk around the neighborhood, go back home, have a nice cup of hot chamomile tea and take an hour nap? There's more to life than these stupid fucking forums, dude. I get exhausted just reading some of your posts.

This doesn't come from a place of any ill-will, for the record, quite the opposite. Either create your own Forum and run it however you like or seriously reevaluate how much you care about what goes on at gambling message boards.

As to the last part, a sock puppet of what banned Member? I used to be an Admin there and there's nobody I'd even suspect him of being...I mean, I guess spin the wheel of Baccarat system players, if so, but there have been what---a dozen of them?

[BoSox]

Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.

I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. MDawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.

[kewlJ]

Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.

I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. Mdawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.

Bosox, Mike PMed me, "offering" a deal. Mike's "deals" to me (second time) don't feel all that much like an option. There was a refernce to WoV "jail" if I didn't accept.

So The offer was to move the thread to the "systems" section and I cannot post in that thread. I thought it worked like Norms forum and that meant you wouldn't see the thread on the main board (recent threads). I mean otherwise....what exactly did I get? Nothing. So after realizing that Mike moved the thread and it was still on the main board, I PMed him and told him I misunderstood and what I mistakenly thought. I mean this was an hour after the so called deal. He could have offered something else, but didn't.

yes, I am happy Mfrauds great fairytale is in the losing systems section, But who looks at what section it is in. That it is in that section will only matter if it is frequently mentioned. Meanwhile, People are commenting about me and making comments in that thread, one even asked if I was a real AP, and I can't respond. That is not right. This deal "offered" just like Wizards deal to me 5 years ago in another situation are not equal and pretty one sided against me. So that is him telling me in no uncertain terms, how he feels about me. So I think I will just post here. I hate it when THIS is the best option.

But there is another thing about that forum that just came to my attention. We all KNOW MDawg is using sockpuppets. Hell Mdawg is even a sockpuppet of a previously banned member. He is getting away with this because he is using VPN's to hide IP matches and deflect where he is posting from. And Wizard is allowing that! That means Mike is approving of this shit! Hell, EVEN Dan Druff doesn't allow that.

Sockpuppets are always part of these fraud guys thing. When absolutely no one believes their bullshit claims, they make up imaginary friends and supporters. It really is a mental issue.

[redietz]

Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.

I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. MDawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.

I see this completely differently. I see it as Shackleford moved a guy posting cancer quackery from the "Medical" section to the "Alternative Medicine" section. The guy will post as much if not more. The guy gets less pushback because some of the doctors in the "Medical" section have agreed to not challenge "Alternative" claims. The key questions are whether the profile of the quackery poster is improved by the switch and whether more or fewer people will buy into it because of the switch.

So, is MDawg going to garner more, less, or the same attention by the switch? Will he be taken seriously by more or fewer people because of the switch and muzzling of a key debunker?

I'd say, at best, it's a push. I think, at worst, there's a good chance he gets more attention and he gets taken seriously by more civilians.

I think, BoSox, that your communications assessment is flawed here. You are arguing that one line of disclaimer (attached to a section and not the specific poster) will somehow neutralize or override months and years featuring hundreds and eventually thousands of posts running tens of thousands of words. Anybody who thinks one line of disclaimer is going to matter versus the thousands of words already posted and tens of thousands to come is being very, very naive.

[MDawg]

I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there

How long did that resolve last? An hour? IMPULSE CONTROL DISORDER all the way...he's posting away at WOV already. This weak guy can't make a decision and keep to it.

Psychiatry, clinical psychology. Impulse-control disorder (ICD) is a class of psychiatric disorders characterized by impulsivity – failure to resist a temptation, an urge, or an impulse; or having the inability to not speak on a thought.

UNKewlJ will be yapping uncontrollably about R. Singer and MDawg soon enough, if not already.

[Hawkesite]

Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.

Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

[Tasha]

Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.

Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad. Take heart, someone had an on topic thread about a Movie on another Website and after about ONE on topic reply post, the on topic thread was hijacked into a Chat Room! At least one Person mentioned it was screwed up someone's on topic movie thread was hijacked into a Chat Room and apologized.

[Ozzy]

Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.

Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad.

How's your forum these days Tasha, is it busier then dogs forum with in house resident Mleus ?

[Tasha]

Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad.

How's your forum these days Tasha, is it busier then dogs forum with in house resident Mleus ?

My Forum went into the Toilet after I made the tough Admin Decision to change the Posting Requirements after the "Poker Grinder," (Still think the REAL Poker Grinder was being Impersonated) guy did nothing but harass me on my own Forum..... I didn't know at the time that changing the posting requirements meant that NO ONE can post on my Forum. :/

[Hawkesite]

Thanks!

[jbjb]

He's B79. Same shit, same grandiose posts, same boring pictures, same B79.

[Mission146]

He's B79. Same shit, same grandiose posts, same boring pictures, same B79.

Was that the singer, the guy who said he owned a company that cleaned blood and stuff up on the highway, or are those the same person?

I want to say that I thought some of Baccaratfrom79's posts were funny, but I'm not 100% sure. I'd have never thought about that poster again in all of my life if you hadn't mentioned him.

[MDawg]

Mission the guy suffers from an impulse control disorder, you think he's going to go for a walk in the park and refrain from posting about me online when the five letter word MDAWG is pounding through his temples? We could say the same about more than a few others here. I just got a PM from some new member at WOV advising me that some lunatic at WOV I have blocked was scouring the Strip looking for me all week. I seem to recall something AxelA-hole posted a long time ago about instinct? Well his instincts may stink but mine are sharp - I blocked that lunatic about a year ago.

Hmm, so I am Baccarat79. I recall looking at some of his posts wasn't he in the mid-West or something? So he moved to California, went to law school, spent at least seven years in college and grad school to improve his English and writing skills, put together enough money to trade million dollar blocks of stocks, amassed enough bitcoin to be willing to transfer 500K worth to the Wizard to hold in trust for a wager, and then decided to return to WOV. I'll back it! Sounds like the American Dream, as REDietz, might say.

[Ozzy]

Your post was just short enough for me to want to read, with no obvious bragging. I'm surprised your talking negative about Mission. He seems to be tip toeing, walking on eggshells, refraining from calling your BS out for some reason. Anyone who knows his posting history, knows a few things. 1- He is a marathon man( longest average posts per capita) 2- Posts huge amounts for short durations( couple days at time) 3- Dissapears for several weeks sometimes months. 4- Thanks everybody for their posts(good or bad) non biased or non hypocritical like Roger Kint the thank you hypocrite. He's been posting this way since the very beginning.