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  1. #1
    I have been playing craps for 4 decades, often with big gaps as life happens.

    I used to be (in the age of single odds) a three-unit player. That let me squeeze a little more juice out of the odds.

    Now I bet a single unit (5/10/15 - I am a 'low-roller') on the pass. I take double odds. If I lose three points in a row, I move on.

    If I win, I add two come bets, single unit with double odds. As bets repeat, I increase the odds.

    Once the hot roll is done, I leave.

    Comments? Thoughts?

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    Pretty smart, conservative play.

    Me, I like to bypass the come out and start my serives by placing six and eight, usually for $12 each, take a hit or two then press the number that repeats and hope for the best.

    If a good roll ensues I start spreading out, e.g. placing five and nine, snd then four and ten, but that is pretty rare.
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #3
    Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

    With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.
    I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.
    Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
    All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.
    Last edited by OnceDear; 04-04-2021 at 12:40 AM.

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
    All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.
    He is not getting near my dick. Maybe Axel is open, I don't know.

    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    Besides that Mdawg is lying about his play, as everyone knows, Mdawg is a sock puppet of a banned member and I think you guys at WoV know that. And now he is using sockpuppets like this wellbush who just joined 2 days ago and is already knee deep in support of Mdawg. Aren't you guys checking IP addresses over there anymore Oncedear, or are you allowing VPN to be used? Doesn't matter, your headache now. he is making a mockery of Wizard. I have no hard feeling for you Oncedear.
    The fictitious, fairytales of Mdawg have been moved to the betting system voodoo section at WoV, proving that it is all make believe.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.
    He is not getting near my dick. Maybe Axel is open, I don't know.
    Welcome KewlJ to MDawg's latest thread.
    One down. Two to go.
    Last edited by OnceDear; 04-04-2021 at 01:27 AM.

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    He is not getting near my dick. Maybe Axel is open, I don't know.

    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    Besides that Mdawg is lying about his play, as everyone knows, Mdawg is a sock puppet of a banned member and I think you guys at WoV know that. And now he is using sockpuppets like this wellbush who just joined 2 days ago and is already knee deep in support of Mdawg. Aren't you guys checking IP addresses over there anymore Oncedear, or are you allowing VPN to be used? Doesn't matter, your headache now. he is making a mockery of Wizard. I have no hard feeling for you Oncedear.
    You're clearly more worried about the so-called, "Mockery," than he is. Why that would be the case, I have no idea. If you're massively worried about it, have you ever thought about contacting him to ask him if he can forward an offer to the site's owners on just buying WoV? I'll still write articles for WoV, but I'm not budging on my pay arrangement. If you're not interested in having me write for WoV, well, bunch of other sites under the LCB umbrella that I already write for. Figure I'll do both. Just don't bother to give me deadlines---they'll almost never be met.

    Anyway, I don't know what he said that would lead you to believe that, but I guess take it up with him. Caveat emptor. It's certainly never the way that the Forum has worked.

    In fact, I even commented here:

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...213#post124213

    Yes. Individual posts aside, I fail to see what rule his general posting violates. You could maybe make an argument that his trip report thread, in particular, might be relegated to the Betting Systems sub-forum, but even that would have nothing to do with whether or not he could post there. It also wouldn't matter much as I tend to believe most active posters just use the, "Recent/Unread Threads," function.
    I think I said something similar at WoV, but I don't care enough to look.

    Anyway, you could have asked in the thread, PM to Mike, PM to someone else if that's how it works. At this time, Betting Systems threads appear on Recent Threads and I don't recall it ever being any other way.

    Jesus Christ, though, not getting clarification on something and being misled aren't the same thing. Just because you made an assumption and your assumption was wrong does not mean you were misled.

    Don't you ever get tired? Why not go for a nice walk around the neighborhood, go back home, have a nice cup of hot chamomile tea and take an hour nap? There's more to life than these stupid fucking forums, dude. I get exhausted just reading some of your posts.

    This doesn't come from a place of any ill-will, for the record, quite the opposite. Either create your own Forum and run it however you like or seriously reevaluate how much you care about what goes on at gambling message boards.

    As to the last part, a sock puppet of what banned Member? I used to be an Admin there and there's nobody I'd even suspect him of being...I mean, I guess spin the wheel of Baccarat system players, if so, but there have been what---a dozen of them?
    Last edited by Mission146; 04-04-2021 at 06:04 AM.

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    He's B79. Same shit, same grandiose posts, same boring pictures, same B79.

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    He's B79. Same shit, same grandiose posts, same boring pictures, same B79.
    Was that the singer, the guy who said he owned a company that cleaned blood and stuff up on the highway, or are those the same person?

    I want to say that I thought some of Baccaratfrom79's posts were funny, but I'm not 100% sure. I'd have never thought about that poster again in all of my life if you hadn't mentioned him.

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    Mission the guy suffers from an impulse control disorder, you think he's going to go for a walk in the park and refrain from posting about me online when the five letter word MDAWG is pounding through his temples? We could say the same about more than a few others here. I just got a PM from some new member at WOV advising me that some lunatic at WOV I have blocked was scouring the Strip looking for me all week. I seem to recall something AxelA-hole posted a long time ago about instinct? Well his instincts may stink but mine are sharp - I blocked that lunatic about a year ago.

    Hmm, so I am Baccarat79. I recall looking at some of his posts wasn't he in the mid-West or something? So he moved to California, went to law school, spent at least seven years in college and grad school to improve his English and writing skills, put together enough money to trade million dollar blocks of stocks, amassed enough bitcoin to be willing to transfer 500K worth to the Wizard to hold in trust for a wager, and then decided to return to WOV. I'll back it! Sounds like the American Dream, as REDietz, might say.
    Last edited by MDawg; 04-04-2021 at 09:00 AM.
    I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

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    Your post was just short enough for me to want to read, with no obvious bragging. I'm surprised your talking negative about Mission. He seems to be tip toeing, walking on eggshells, refraining from calling your BS out for some reason. Anyone who knows his posting history, knows a few things. 1- He is a marathon man( longest average posts per capita) 2- Posts huge amounts for short durations( couple days at time) 3- Dissapears for several weeks sometimes months. 4- Thanks everybody for their posts(good or bad) non biased or non hypocritical like Roger Kint the thank you hypocrite. He's been posting this way since the very beginning.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    I'm surprised your talking negative about Mission.
    Holy shit ... that post went right over your head.

    You wanna reconsider and walk back what you just wrote...you fool?

  13. #13
    Right, the post was directed to Mission about someone else. Mission got it I am sure.
    I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
    All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.


    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

    Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


    Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. MDawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.
    Last edited by BoSox; 04-04-2021 at 01:15 PM.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
    All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.


    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

    Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


    Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. Mdawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.
    Bosox, Mike PMed me, "offering" a deal. Mike's "deals" to me (second time) don't feel all that much like an option. There was a refernce to WoV "jail" if I didn't accept.

    So The offer was to move the thread to the "systems" section and I cannot post in that thread. I thought it worked like Norms forum and that meant you wouldn't see the thread on the main board (recent threads). I mean otherwise....what exactly did I get? Nothing. So after realizing that Mike moved the thread and it was still on the main board, I PMed him and told him I misunderstood and what I mistakenly thought. I mean this was an hour after the so called deal. He could have offered something else, but didn't.

    yes, I am happy Mfrauds great fairytale is in the losing systems section, But who looks at what section it is in. That it is in that section will only matter if it is frequently mentioned. Meanwhile, People are commenting about me and making comments in that thread, one even asked if I was a real AP, and I can't respond. That is not right. This deal "offered" just like Wizards deal to me 5 years ago in another situation are not equal and pretty one sided against me. So that is him telling me in no uncertain terms, how he feels about me. So I think I will just post here. I hate it when THIS is the best option.

    But there is another thing about that forum that just came to my attention. We all KNOW MDawg is using sockpuppets. Hell Mdawg is even a sockpuppet of a previously banned member. He is getting away with this because he is using VPN's to hide IP matches and deflect where he is posting from. And Wizard is allowing that! That means Mike is approving of this shit! Hell, EVEN Dan Druff doesn't allow that.

    Sockpuppets are always part of these fraud guys thing. When absolutely no one believes their bullshit claims, they make up imaginary friends and supporters. It really is a mental issue.
    The fictitious, fairytales of Mdawg have been moved to the betting system voodoo section at WoV, proving that it is all make believe.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by OnceDear View Post
    Way to go, MDawg! Converting yet another thread into being about the legend that is you!
    All you need now is to suck Axel, KewlJ and CoachBelly over here and your work is complete.


    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

    Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


    Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. MDawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.
    I see this completely differently. I see it as Shackleford moved a guy posting cancer quackery from the "Medical" section to the "Alternative Medicine" section. The guy will post as much if not more. The guy gets less pushback because some of the doctors in the "Medical" section have agreed to not challenge "Alternative" claims. The key questions are whether the profile of the quackery poster is improved by the switch and whether more or fewer people will buy into it because of the switch.

    So, is MDawg going to garner more, less, or the same attention by the switch? Will he be taken seriously by more or fewer people because of the switch and muzzling of a key debunker?

    I'd say, at best, it's a push. I think, at worst, there's a good chance he gets more attention and he gets taken seriously by more civilians.

    I think, BoSox, that your communications assessment is flawed here. You are arguing that one line of disclaimer (attached to a section and not the specific poster) will somehow neutralize or override months and years featuring hundreds and eventually thousands of posts running tens of thousands of words. Anybody who thinks one line of disclaimer is going to matter versus the thousands of words already posted and tens of thousands to come is being very, very naive.
    Last edited by redietz; 04-04-2021 at 01:40 PM.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post



    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

    Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


    Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. MDawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.
    I see this completely differently. I see it as Shackleford moved a guy posting cancer quackery from the "Medical" section to the "Alternative Medicine" section. The guy will post as much if not more. The guy gets less pushback because some of the doctors in the "Medical" section have agreed to not challenge "Alternative" claims. The key questions are whether the profile of the quackery poster is improved by the switch and whether more or fewer people will buy into it because of the switch.

    So, is MDawg going to garner more, less, or the same attention by the switch? Will he be taken seriously by more or fewer people because of the switch and muzzling of a key debunker?

    I'd say, at best, it's a push. I think, at worst, there's a good chance he gets more attention and he gets taken seriously by more civilians.

    I think, BoSox, that your communications assessment is flawed here. You are arguing that one line of disclaimer (attached to a section and not the specific poster) will somehow neutralize or override months and years featuring hundreds and eventually thousands of posts running tens of thousands of words. Anybody who thinks one line of disclaimer is going to matter versus the thousands of words already posted and tens of thousands to come is being very, very naive.
    Why are you posting on the hate site anyway? Mdawg, will now and forever be stigmatized and he will not like it. Look at the quality of his supporters nothing but rejects, and dreamers and yes he is going to get more lots of them brainless creatures. And his thread will continue at a fast pace, so what now it is in a corner. Besides the more supporters, "losers" that he gets the better it is for everyone else. Now, redietz what odds are you putting on the time it takes for Monet to set up his camp?

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post



    I have Mdawg blocked here because he is unable to behave like a decent human being, only the lowlife lying piece of crap that he is. So I won't interact with him here and I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there under these terms.

    For the record, I believe I was mislead by Mike into believing the Mdawg thread would be moved to the betting systems/voodoo section and then would no longer appear on the main recent threads section. If nothing changed and it still appears on the main board, why would I agree to that? I feel mislead by Mike and frankly this is the second time he has sided against me with someone clearly out to disrupt and make a mockery of him and his forum.

    KewlJ, did you in fact even discuss with Mike S does the Systems forum new posts even appears in the recent threads section? Or did you just make an assumption that it would not?

    Now a deal was made between you and Mdawd regarding such a move and I want to clear up a point. Within one of your recent suspensions, I challenged management on the board and asked for the MDawg thread to be moved to the same board that it ended up in. We both won only I feel you won on all accounts better than everyone, let me explain.


    Just because the MDawg thread still appears in the recent post section is not the important thing. Mdawg's trade-off "I call concession" is extremely relevant in my mind. That deal made is admitting to the entire board including to all of his detractors and supporters that he is a systems player. Yes, the detractors knew it all along but now he is admitting all of it no small concession on his part by any means. Pertaining to why you won the most out of this deal. You do not have to bother with the WOV MDawg thread again a major victory for you. You should be happy. Plus no more suspensions.
    Bosox, Mike PMed me, "offering" a deal. Mike's "deals" to me (second time) don't feel all that much like an option. There was a refernce to WoV "jail" if I didn't accept.

    So The offer was to move the thread to the "systems" section and I cannot post in that thread. I thought it worked like Norms forum and that meant you wouldn't see the thread on the main board (recent threads). I mean otherwise....what exactly did I get? Nothing. So after realizing that Mike moved the thread and it was still on the main board, I PMed him and told him I misunderstood and what I mistakenly thought. I mean this was an hour after the so called deal. He could have offered something else, but didn't.

    yes, I am happy Mfrauds great fairytale is in the losing systems section, But who looks at what section it is in. That it is in that section will only matter if it is frequently mentioned. Meanwhile, People are commenting about me and making comments in that thread, one even asked if I was a real AP, and I can't respond. That is not right. This deal "offered" just like Wizards deal to me 5 years ago in another situation are not equal and pretty one sided against me. So that is him telling me in no uncertain terms, how he feels about me. So I think I will just post here. I hate it when THIS is the best option.

    But there is another thing about that forum that just came to my attention. We all KNOW MDawg is using sockpuppets. Hell Mdawg is even a sockpuppet of a previously banned member. He is getting away with this because he is using VPN's to hide IP matches and deflect where he is posting from. And Wizard is allowing that! That means Mike is approving of this shit! Hell, EVEN Dan Druff doesn't allow that.

    Sockpuppets are always part of these fraud guys thing. When absolutely no one believes their bullshit claims, they make up imaginary friends and supporters. It really is a mental issue.
    Even though your the guy closest to being a 50/50 man between both sites, you're home by default will always be here As far as VPN go, they are rare over at WOV, but like everything else the " man in charge" makes exceptions for certain posters. Here Druff allows them completely, there are at least 10-12 regulars, hmmm including yourself that use one. Very easy to tell. Over at PFA, Druff has zero tolerance for them.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Now, redietz what odds are you putting on the time it takes for Monet to set up his camp?
    When I have time I may go into this with more details in a different thread.
    I hardly read this thread but somehow I read your post here because I seen Ozzy posted last.
    I like reading all Ozzy Posts.
    I noticed yours when I scrolled down.
    Read it because of the opening.
    Anyways...

    It will take about 10 weeks before I get my Wall Tent and Gear for that Tent.
    I've did a bunch of shopping for Camping Equipment since.
    I had some coupon for my Bass Pro Shop Credit Card so I used it.
    Probably wouldn't have but my Duel Fuel Colman Lantern was seized up because of no use for years and never aired it out or cleaned it.
    Not easy to find them these days and I wouldn't doubt they discontinue them in the future.
    Love them because they can run off of unleaded gas and my father always had one that was a different model.
    It really brings back the memories seeing that glow and hearing that hiss.
    I bought two and plan to buy more for storage just incase they do discontinue them.

    So I bought a couple tents.
    One was a tent that goes in the bed of the truck.
    Napier Sportz Tent.
    Have not even opened it out of the bag yet.
    The other was a Coleman 6 Person Dark Technology Tent that was pretty cheap at around 160 dollars.
    Not terrible but more of a Summer Camping Tent.
    Not super easy to set up the first time but we figured it out.
    A little bit drafty at night when the wind starts to blow.

    It took me about an hour or so to pack my entire truck up with some help from the wife.
    It took me about an hour and a half to set up the camp but only unload about 50% of the Truck.
    I went out to Lake Mead but camped in the middle of the desert where you need a 4x4 and I found a decent spot away from the somewhat maintained gravel/sand road.
    I made a few mistakes.
    I camped for about 40 hours.
    I figure it cost me about 17 dollars an hour for this run that includes items like the tent that can be re-used again bringing the hourly cost down over time.
    I only burned a small amount of wood because trying to learn how to conserve supplies.
    I used far too much water because the temperature was a bout 100 F in the daytime.
    The Canopy Tent saved us but I forgot the canopy lol... had to use some blankets.
    Still very hot and nothing to do but sit and wait it out.
    We drank a ton of water.
    I ended up using about 7 gallons per day.
    I took two showers, my uncle took one.
    Had to use dish soap because I got cute bringing this huge bar of soap that is meant for washing clothes.
    My wife had it for over 10 years and never used it and I wanted to try it.
    Turns out it leaves something on your skin/hands that would need hot water to wash it off.
    Didn't like it.
    Dish Soap actually worked good but not sure how good for you it is lol.

    I used a butane one burner stove top to do the cooking.
    Wife has it for shabu shabu but never uses it.
    Worked good for boiling some water, cooking steaks, sausages and mushrooms.
    We didn't eat very much.
    All the other food/supplies were not used.
    Over Prepared/Packed.

    The whole point of this story/breakdown is that through dry camping you really find out how soft you are.
    I'm obviously Very Soft Tofu.
    Need to toughen up.
    I'm not sure I can even classify myself as a Man anymore.
    Modern Society and Conveniences has turned me into something worse than a little girl.

    Now for some of the good.
    Quiet.
    Amazingly Quiet.
    I had a perfect view for the Sunrise with a beautiful Red Stone Mountain View.
    I camped up against a large Rock Wall blocking the sunset.
    Good for blocking the wind though.
    40 hours was enough time to realize how old, soft and dependent I am on TV, AC, Hot Showers... etc etc.
    It is clear Men have been emasculated by these things.
    That's a good thing to find out about yourself.
    Some more good...
    Fire is always nice and great to stare at while reflecting or having conversation with friends/family.
    No TV or Radio/Music forces you to communicate with the people you are with.
    Very Good Thing.
    If you do this alone it forces you to talk to God or Yourself and Reflect.

    I gambled too much with this first excursion.
    Dry Camping far away from the road and deep into the wilderness not such a great idea.
    Anything could of gone wrong like my Truck not starting or other things completely screwing us.
    My uncle can't really navigate or operate that Truck.
    In an Emergency... perhaps but not easy for him.
    Let's say I had a stroke or heart attack or some other fatality.
    He would be up shits creek.
    I have to reassess this.
    It's also true that if I die he is up shits creek.
    I think its good to learn this but bad to gamble as much as I did.
    Yes, very tiny odds but still far too much as I can find better situations.

    I guess that is about it for now.
    I'll be heading back out again in an area that is a bit cooler.
    Obviously, I need more experience and time learning.
    Trial and Error is the best/only way IMO.
    Last edited by monet; 04-04-2021 at 04:04 PM.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Even though your the guy closest to being a 50/50 man between both sites, you're home by default will always be here As far as VPN go, they are rare over at WOV, but like everything else the " man in charge" makes exceptions for certain posters. Here Druff allows them completely, there are at least 10-12 regulars, hmmm including yourself that use one. Very easy to tell. Over at PFA, Druff has zero tolerance for them.
    I use a VPN, ozzy? News to me. Not even sure how they work, as honestly I am not very tech savy. I welcome Dan Druff to disclose that I have never used one.

    And yes Druff has made suspected socks "unmask" for 1 or 2 posts so he could determine if they were a sock here. Ask him. I mean yes Dan Druff disappears for weeks at a time, so people can get away with shenanigans, but when he buckles down and takes this forum seriously, he can eliminate sockpuppets. It does appear he is willing to let 1 or 2 people have a second chance, and post using a sock, but everyone understands those cases. When Dan Druff gets serious about sockpuppets that are only here to create phony credibility, he all but eliminates them. WoV could as well. They are choosing to allow sockspuppet and VPNs for phony credibility.
    The fictitious, fairytales of Mdawg have been moved to the betting system voodoo section at WoV, proving that it is all make believe.

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