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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't care for Mike's solution at WoV, so I won't be interacting there
    How long did that resolve last? An hour? IMPULSE CONTROL DISORDER all the way...he's posting away at WOV already. This weak guy can't make a decision and keep to it.

    Psychiatry, clinical psychology. Impulse-control disorder (ICD) is a class of psychiatric disorders characterized by impulsivity Ė failure to resist a temptation, an urge, or an impulse; or having the inability to not speak on a thought.

    UNKewlJ will be yapping uncontrollably about R. Singer and MDawg soon enough, if not already.
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  2. #22
    Those dozen or so members are all regular/semi regular posters, it has nothing to do with socks/dupes they, including yourself feel more comfortable using one, totally understandable. Like I said not rocket science.

  3. #23
    Here is the thinking among these brats like UNKewlJ, AxelAss, rainman, sabre, etc.:

    If the member supports MDawg must be a sock.

    I was suspended from that site for what was it, four months? and I never returned to it in the form of a sock, and I wouldn't start now.
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  4. #24
    Look you lying piece of shit, insecure narcissist, until a forum administrator tells me otherwise, I will post where I want to post and when I want to post it. You don't decide that. And if I want to block certain lunatic bastards and then feel like unblocking a post or two, I can and will do that too.

    You are just another losing player misleading everyone with phony bullshit. There is not even anything new about you. You use the exact same playbook as the narcissist frauds that came before you. That is one of the reasons I want people like you and those that came before you exposed and called out, so as not to encourage new assholes like you.

    I don't know what the deal is with you losers. If you spent a quarter of the time you spend on your great fairytale troll, learning to win instead....to really win....by mathematically sound principals, instead of math defying hocus pocus, then you would really have something to write about and be admired for. Instead you are another losing systems player completely debunked and regulated to the losing system player and voodoo forum, so everyone know just what you are.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 04-04-2021 at 07:22 PM.
    The fictitious, fairytales of Mdawg have been moved to the betting system voodoo section at WoV, proving that it is all make believe.

  5. #25
    Thanks for the kind words, Ozzy!

    Anyway, glancing through this, I feel a little bad that we have derailed this thread so much, so I'm going to respond to the OP:

    Originally Posted by Hawkesite
    I have been playing craps for 4 decades, often with big gaps as life happens.

    I used to be (in the age of single odds) a three-unit player. That let me squeeze a little more juice out of the odds.

    Now I bet a single unit (5/10/15 - I am a 'low-roller') on the pass. I take double odds. If I lose three points in a row, I move on.

    If I win, I add two come bets, single unit with double odds. As bets repeat, I increase the odds.

    Once the hot roll is done, I leave.

    Comments? Thoughts?
    In the rare event that I play negative expectation Craps, I play far from optimally...but I know what my Expected Loss is with every bet so it's my decision. In an average year, I would say that I play Craps 1.5-2 times.

    Here comes the most boring Craps play you've ever read!!!:

    Buy-In: $60-$100

    Playstyle:

    1.) Start with $5 (I wouldn't play a higher minimum) on the Pass Line and make a $1 Any Craps, "Crap Check," bet.

    2.) Come Out winner---same thing. Come out Craps---press the Crap bet to $2 and rack other winnings. The Crap Check gets pressed (doubled) on all other winning occasions and goes back to $1 in the event of a Come Out winner. A point being established takes the Crap down and this process restarts on the next Come Out roll---if there is one.

    3.) Take 2x Odds on the Point, Place 6 & 8 for $6 each as well as with $1 on each for the dealers. If the Point is 6 or 8, then $6 on the other one and $1 for the dealers. Any Place Bets that are hit will be $3 ($1 + $2) and down for the dealers and I put them back up for another buck. I don't really press my Place Bets too often and I always have the crew going on 6/8. I'm basically making a $6 Big 6 and Big 8 bet since I'm only really getting even money since I know I am going to put the dealers back up anyway.

    4.) If I establish and make three points in a row, then I will continue playing after a seven out. If I fail to establish and make three points in a row, then I will quit.

    5.) If three points in a row are made, then the process starts from the beginning (Steps 1-4) after the eventual seven-out. At that point, I must establish and make another three points in a row to continue playing.

    6.) Tip the dealers $5 if they did not win at least that on their Place 6 and Place 8 bets. The main casino where I play Craps actually allows the dealers to have an advantage on a $1 Place 6/8 toke bet because it pays 2:1, so that turns into $3 and down.

    I play only rarely and am often not at the table very long. Don't want to accumulate too much -EV. I had an immediate PSO once and thought about trying again, but I didn't do it.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

    With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.
    Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

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    The guy is a roadside distraction, sort of like a two-headed calf with its heads stuck in a fence, pissing and shitting itself in full view as the traffic rolls by.

    You did get some responses to your post, so consider yourself lucky for that before things started to veer off-topic.

    FWIW it seems that some posters get miffed when their posts veer: my advice is to "get over it," as the OP has no control or right to control where a thread winds up.
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  8. #28
    I've never really seen the big deal about topics getting off track, you have broke Chumps with a nickel in their pocket, who do it all the time. Most just skip by his posts, 99.73% of the time. Action is the name of the game

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Thanks for the kind words, Ozzy!

    Anyway, glancing through this, I feel a little bad that we have derailed this thread so much, so I'm going to respond to the OP:

    Originally Posted by Hawkesite
    I have been playing craps for 4 decades, often with big gaps as life happens.

    I used to be (in the age of single odds) a three-unit player. That let me squeeze a little more juice out of the odds.

    Now I bet a single unit (5/10/15 - I am a 'low-roller') on the pass. I take double odds. If I lose three points in a row, I move on.

    If I win, I add two come bets, single unit with double odds. As bets repeat, I increase the odds.

    Once the hot roll is done, I leave.

    Comments? Thoughts?
    In the rare event that I play negative expectation Craps, I play far from optimally...but I know what my Expected Loss is with every bet so it's my decision. In an average year, I would say that I play Craps 1.5-2 times.

    Here comes the most boring Craps play you've ever read!!!:

    Buy-In: $60-$100

    Playstyle:

    1.) Start with $5 (I wouldn't play a higher minimum) on the Pass Line and make a $1 Any Craps, "Crap Check," bet.

    2.) Come Out winner---same thing. Come out Craps---press the Crap bet to $2 and rack other winnings. The Crap Check gets pressed (doubled) on all other winning occasions and goes back to $1 in the event of a Come Out winner. A point being established takes the Crap down and this process restarts on the next Come Out roll---if there is one.

    3.) Take 2x Odds on the Point, Place 6 & 8 for $6 each as well as with $1 on each for the dealers. If the Point is 6 or 8, then $6 on the other one and $1 for the dealers. Any Place Bets that are hit will be $3 ($1 + $2) and down for the dealers and I put them back up for another buck. I don't really press my Place Bets too often and I always have the crew going on 6/8. I'm basically making a $6 Big 6 and Big 8 bet since I'm only really getting even money since I know I am going to put the dealers back up anyway.

    4.) If I establish and make three points in a row, then I will continue playing after a seven out. If I fail to establish and make three points in a row, then I will quit.

    5.) If three points in a row are made, then the process starts from the beginning (Steps 1-4) after the eventual seven-out. At that point, I must establish and make another three points in a row to continue playing.

    6.) Tip the dealers $5 if they did not win at least that on their Place 6 and Place 8 bets. The main casino where I play Craps actually allows the dealers to have an advantage on a $1 Place 6/8 toke bet because it pays 2:1, so that turns into $3 and down.

    I play only rarely and am often not at the table very long. Don't want to accumulate too much -EV. I had an immediate PSO once and thought about trying again, but I didn't do it.
    Good, basic, and risk-managed. Have you read Silberstang?

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Hawkesite View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

    With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.
    Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

    I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad. Take heart, someone had an on topic thread about a Movie on another Website and after about ONE on topic reply post, the on topic thread was hijacked into a Chat Room! At least one Person mentioned it was screwed up someone's on topic movie thread was hijacked into a Chat Room and apologized.
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  11. #31
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Hawkesite View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Whatever works for you Hawk. Craps is awesome when the table is hot, not so much when no one seems to be able to hit the point. I had ups and downs in craps but haven't played in over a decade now. I've had as much as 3000 on the line with max odds and hit the point both myself and others, and then I also recall times when I had almost as much out there and crapped out in two or three rolls.

    With Baccarat, when I walk up to the shoe, and it has a 9 Bank run (like today) or 11 Bank run (like yesterday) in it, that is an absolute. It is locked. I am going to get that run! But with craps, it's all random and there is no guarantee that a given table is going to have a certain outcome. A subtle, but all important difference.
    Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

    I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad.
    How's your forum these days Tasha, is it busier then dogs forum with in house resident Mleus ?

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by Hawkesite View Post

    Good, basic, and risk-managed. Have you read Silberstang?
    I don't believe so. I just don't like losing $5 on the Come Out roll. I know I only win $4 when I get a 7 or 11 (assuming Crap Check is still at base bet), but I only play when I get the urge to roll the dice. Like I said, once or twice a year.

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    Despite his detractors, John Patrick's books on craps are worth reading.

    Oh sure, he's innumerate but he covers a lot of ground and at least makes you think.
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  15. #35
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Hawkesite View Post

    Wow, almost no one actually commented on my post. You do draw an odd fan club dude!

    I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad.
    How's your forum these days Tasha, is it busier then dogs forum with in house resident Mleus ?
    My Forum went into the Toilet after I made the tough Admin Decision to change the Posting Requirements after the "Poker Grinder," (Still think the REAL Poker Grinder was being Impersonated) guy did nothing but harass me on my own Forum..... I didn't know at the time that changing the posting requirements meant that NO ONE can post on my Forum. :/
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  16. #36
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post


    I was also appalled by how quickly your Craps thread got hijacked into People hurling insults at each other. I am so sorry your thread got unfairly hijacked so bad.
    How's your forum these days Tasha, is it busier then dogs forum with in house resident Mleus ?
    My Forum went into the Toilet after I made the tough Admin Decision to change the Posting Requirements after the "Poker Grinder," (Still think the REAL Poker Grinder was being Impersonated) guy did nothing but harass me on my own Forum..... I didn't know at the time that changing the posting requirements meant that NO ONE can post on my Forum. :/
    He was one of your top three fans, he would literally come over here to "cuss you out" and not post anything else, so highly likely it was him.

  17. #37
    Was a craps dealer at an earlier time. Here is a tutorial I uploaded 10 years ago.

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  18. #38
    Originally Posted by JSTAT View Post
    Was a craps dealer at an earlier time. Here is a tutorial I uploaded 10 years ago.
    Before you give everyone advice on how to beat the Casinos, you might want to fix your grammar on your signature.
    I guess the first sentence isn't as much of an issue as the second one.

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